RE: [IMail Forum] Hotmail and MSN
Thanks William, that is what I figured. The little guy loses again. Have a great day! Tyler -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Van Hefner Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:06 PM To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Hotmail and MSN Tyler, They very likely have some sort of peering arrangement set up, which would speed up routing of mail. It is also quite possible that these ISPs whitelist each other's known IP blocks, which would speed-up delivery by giving them less tests to run. Add that to the fact that they are most likely pulling the IP addresses of large ISPs out of their cache, rather than having to do individual lookups for small ISPs, and you can see why the big guys get what seems like preferential treatment. William Van Hefner Network Administrator Vantek Communications, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Jensen Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:38 PM To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: [IMail Forum] Hotmail and MSN I know it has been discussed many times before and we all know hotmail and msn are terrible but why is it that I can deliver a message to my hotmail account using yahoo or EarthLink and it shows up in 2 seconds but I can't get it delivered through my Imail? Heck even dnsreports.com has had a hard time connecting their email servers all day long. I am probably being ignorant and there is preferential treatment for the big ISPs and email services?? Oh well, how is that 2006 going? Tyler To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude EVA] To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
RE: [IMail Forum] Hotmail and MSN
Tyler, They very likely have some sort of peering arrangement set up, which would speed up routing of mail. It is also quite possible that these ISPs whitelist each other's known IP blocks, which would speed-up delivery by giving them less tests to run. Add that to the fact that they are most likely pulling the IP addresses of large ISPs out of their cache, rather than having to do individual lookups for small ISPs, and you can see why the big guys get what seems like preferential treatment. William Van Hefner Network Administrator Vantek Communications, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Jensen Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:38 PM To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: [IMail Forum] Hotmail and MSN I know it has been discussed many times before and we all know hotmail and msn are terrible but why is it that I can deliver a message to my hotmail account using yahoo or EarthLink and it shows up in 2 seconds but I can't get it delivered through my Imail? Heck even dnsreports.com has had a hard time connecting their email servers all day long. I am probably being ignorant and there is preferential treatment for the big ISPs and email services?? Oh well, how is that 2006 going? Tyler To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
Re: [IMail Forum] hotmail and msn
Anyone else having a hell of a time with hotmail and msn lately or is it just me? 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) Trying hotmail.com (0) 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) Connect hotmail.com [65.54.253.230:25] (1) 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) 421 SMTP service not available, closing transmission channel 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) SMTP_DELIV_FAILED 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) QUIT http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/[EMAIL PROTECTED] right now shows that of the 12 IPs of their mailservers, 2 timed out, 1 refused the connection, and 9 were up and running properly. So it looks like a temporary glitch (the 421 should only occur if their mailserver is going to be back up soon, typically during a reboot). -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
RE: [IMail Forum] hotmail and msn
Title: Message We are having the same problem too. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler JensenSent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:46 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ipswitch. comSubject: [IMail Forum] hotmail and msn Anyone else having a hell of a time with hotmail and msn lately or is it just me? 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) Trying hotmail.com (0)10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) Connect hotmail.com [65.54.253.230:25] (1)10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) 421 SMTP service not available, closing transmission channel10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) SMTP_DELIV_FAILED10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) QUIT
RE: [IMail Forum] hotmail and msn
They might be patching there servers.. seems they were have cross site scripting vulnerablities or something. ~Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] hotmail and msn Anyone else having a hell of a time with hotmail and msn lately or is it just me? 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) Trying hotmail.com (0) 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) Connect hotmail.com [65.54.253.230:25] (1) 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) 421 SMTP service not available, closing transmission channel 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) SMTP_DELIV_FAILED 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) QUIT http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/[EMAIL PROTECTED] right now shows that of the 12 IPs of their mailservers, 2 timed out, 1 refused the connection, and 9 were up and running properly. So it looks like a temporary glitch (the 421 should only occur if their mailserver is going to be back up soon, typically during a reboot). -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ ___ Virus Scanned and Filtered by http://www.FamHost.com E-Mail System. ___ Virus Scanned and Filtered by http://www.FamHost.com E-Mail System. To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
Re: [IMail Forum] hotmail and msn
Hi, Few weeks ago I setup the Imail 8.03 on one of my servers and got the same problem. at the end - The problem was mix with DNS SMTP and Queue Manager . Check the following setup: 1. Verify DNS configure (If you have multiply IP on the same network card) 2. Check SMTP (clean) 3. Disable the AnitSpam 4. Clear the Queue Manager 5. In Queue Manager (Just for test) - disable DNS Cache - Disable Failed Domain 5 restart all services In most of the case it will solved the problem only than return AntiSpam DNS and than Failed Domain Skipping For me it help ! P.S. I try to reinstall several time unit I got to it. Sam - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] hotmail and msn Anyone else having a hell of a time with hotmail and msn lately or is it just me? 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) Trying hotmail.com (0) 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) Connect hotmail.com [65.54.253.230:25] (1) 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) 421 SMTP service not available, closing transmission channel 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) SMTP_DELIV_FAILED 10:16 08:28 SMTP-(11700056) QUIT http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/[EMAIL PROTECTED] right now shows that of the 12 IPs of their mailservers, 2 timed out, 1 refused the connection, and 9 were up and running properly. So it looks like a temporary glitch (the 421 should only occur if their mailserver is going to be back up soon, typically during a reboot). -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
