[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #13 from Aleisha Amohia  ---
(In reply to Caroline Cyr La Rose from comment #11)
> 
> What is the exact use case Aleisha? They want to use the index drop-down,
> choose ISSN, type in an ISSN and find all related periodicals? Or is it for
> an integration with another tool?

Originally they had been interested in both the 'standard number' and 'ISSN'
advanced search dropdowns also searching the 780$x and 785$x

In saying that they have decided this is no longer a priority for them, so if
there isn't agreement on the best way to make these tags searchable then we can
probably close this report for now.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #12 from Caroline Cyr La Rose  ---
Also, maybe unrelated, but I learned of the recently added 023 for Cluster
ISSNs. https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd023.html From what I
understand, it's an ISSN that represents a number of other ISSNs (?). It's
something we'll eventually have to consider.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #11 from Caroline Cyr La Rose  ---
I think the same problem you are fearing, Katrin, is already happening with
title search since 780$t and 785$t are indexed in the title. But I agree that
an ISSN search, like an ISBN search, is more precise than a title search and
should return less results.

While looking at the existing mappings, I saw there was one index called
related-periodicals. I don't know where/how it is used, but it could be
something like that. A new index called related-issn, or even add the 780$x and
785$x to related-periodicals.

What is the exact use case Aleisha? They want to use the index drop-down,
choose ISSN, type in an ISSN and find all related periodicals? Or is it for an
integration with another tool?

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #10 from Katrin Fischer  ---
Thanks Janusz for weighing in.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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Aleisha Amohia  changed:

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 Status|ASSIGNED|NEW
  Change sponsored?|Sponsored   |---

--- Comment #9 from Aleisha Amohia  ---
We won't be working on this one for now, but happy for anyone else to pick it
up

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #8 from Aleisha Amohia  ---
That sounds reasonable to me, but I'll just check with the sponsor that it will
work for them :)

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #7 from Janusz Kaczmarek  ---
I definitively agree that it would be nice to have this subfields indexed in ES
and to be able to search with their content, but I'm not sure if issn /
issn-all is the right place.  I agree with Katrin's comment #3.

So, maybe what we needed would be a nice name for a new ES search field to put
there maybe all standard identifiers from 77X/78X fields ($x, $z).  This would
enable us to search with the respective search terms in a general keyword
search.  How about identifier-linking ?  Just an idea.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #6 from Katrin Fischer  ---
(In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #3)
> That's actually what gave me some headache. A patron/user will search for a
> known ISBN, but find totally different records/titles and the sorting could
> also not be ideal I worry if that fits patron expectations.

.. ISSN of course.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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Katrin Fischer  changed:

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 CC||caroline.cyr-la-rose@inlibr
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--- Comment #5 from Katrin Fischer  ---
I am adding a few names here, having some different perspectives might help.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #4 from Aleisha Amohia  ---
I understand. If none of these 3 indexes seems appropriate, would you prefer
that we make a different one? issn-serial for example.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #3 from Katrin Fischer  ---
That's actually what gave me some headache. A patron/user will search for a
known ISBN, but find totally different records/titles and the sorting could
also not be ideal I worry if that fits patron expectations.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #2 from Aleisha Amohia  ---
We would be okay with adding this just to the issn or issn-all indexes, if you
feel that is more appropriate?

780$x and 785$x do represent ISSNs so would be useful for cataloguers to search
on in this way:
* https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd780.html
* https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd785.html

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #1 from Katrin Fischer  ---
I am not sure if that is what every library will expect. These are ISSN of
different works and the results in searching might be surprising to some.
Of course they can change the mappings locally - might need some thought to
decide what is best to offer by default.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 36854] Add search index mappings for preceding and succeeding entry of serial ISSNs to Elasticsearch MARC21 indexes

2024-05-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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Aleisha Amohia  changed:

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  Change sponsored?|--- |Sponsored
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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=36727
[Bug 36727] Add incorrect ISSN to Elasticsearch index mappings
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