Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Start of LibreOffice 4.0 translation
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:54 AM, khagaroth khagar...@gmail.com wrote: It's a pity pootle doesn't support translation propagation between branches like some other online translators, for example WebLate. I believe that is already available in development versions of Pootle, perhaps not the current stable though. cjl -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Start of LibreOffice 4.0 translation
Hi Zeki, On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Zeki Bildirici z...@ozgurlukicin.com wrote: 2012/11/15 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com: Hi, Hi Andras, If all goes well, I'll upload LibreOffice 4.0 po files to Pootle this weekend. I will migrate your LibreOffice 3.6 translations that I find . LibreOffice 4.0 is to be released in February, 2013, and it is still a moving target from the localization point of view. Is it an urgent matter? We are working very hard to finish the full translation of LibreOffice to Turkish, we are on %96 on help content and there are only 18K words left. We need ~2 weeks to finish it. Having 2 branches doubles the work for untranslated work. I think it will be better to postpone it for everybody to prepare for the new branch. I have a few reasons to do it now. New po/pot files will be generated with help of new l10n tools in feature/killsdf branch. I want to merge feature/killsdf before the feature freeze, which is in 2 weeks from now. If there are problems with new l10n tools, we need to find them as soon as possible. Also, many teams finished work on 3.6 long ago, and want to start on 4.0. Beta1 usually comes with translations (Week 49, Dec 3 - Dec 9, 2012), and I'm sure, that people want to test it. You can either leave 3.6 at 96% which is great and complete help translation in 4.0, or you can finish 3.6 translations and I'll help you to migrate your translations to 4.0. If you need 2 weeks to complete, the your earlliest target could be 3.6.5 in Week 5, Jan 28 - Feb 3, 2013, while 4.0.0 is due to Week 6, Feb 4 - Feb 10, 2013. Best regards, Andras -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Start of LibreOffice 4.0 translation
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Zeki Bildirici z...@ozgurlukicin.com wrote: Having 2 branches doubles the work for untranslated work. Most strings are still the same, so you can translate in one branch, download the files and upload them in the other branch. This doesn't work 100% (it for example can't overwrite fuzzy strings with unfuzzied ones), or didn't in 2.1.6, perhaps it's fixed in the new 2.2, I didn't try yet. It's a pity pootle doesn't support translation propagation between branches like some other online translators, for example WebLate. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Start of LibreOffice 4.0 translation
Hi, If all goes well, I'll upload LibreOffice 4.0 po files to Pootle this weekend. I will migrate your LibreOffice 3.6 translations that I find in Pootle. I'll take down Pootle during the update. LibreOffice 3.6 translations will be moved to new libo36x_ui and libo36x_help projects (so metadata, such as suggestions cannot be preserved). libo_ui and libo_help projects will have LibreOffice 4.0 files. It is the same that I did for 3.5 - 3.6. LibreOffice 4.0 is to be released in February, 2013, and it is still a moving target from the localization point of view. Best regards, Andras -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Start of LibreOffice 4.0 translation
Hi Andras, 2012.11.15 17:21, Andras Timar wrote: If all goes well, I'll upload LibreOffice 4.0 po files to Pootle this weekend. I will migrate your LibreOffice 3.6 translations that I find in Pootle. I'll take down Pootle during the update. LibreOffice 3.6 translations will be moved to new libo36x_ui and libo36x_help projects (so metadata, such as suggestions cannot be preserved). libo_ui and libo_help projects will have LibreOffice 4.0 files. It is the same that I did for 3.5 - 3.6. Perhaps fully cloning projects (with suggestions and other stuff) would be a valid feature request for Pootle? :) Rimas -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Start of LibreOffice 4.0 translation
Hi Rimas, On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Rimas Kudelis r...@akl.lt wrote: Hi Andras, 2012.11.15 17:21, Andras Timar wrote: If all goes well, I'll upload LibreOffice 4.0 po files to Pootle this weekend. I will migrate your LibreOffice 3.6 translations that I find in Pootle. I'll take down Pootle during the update. LibreOffice 3.6 translations will be moved to new libo36x_ui and libo36x_help projects (so metadata, such as suggestions cannot be preserved). libo_ui and libo_help projects will have LibreOffice 4.0 files. It is the same that I did for 3.5 - 3.6. Perhaps fully cloning projects (with suggestions and other stuff) would be a valid feature request for Pootle? :) Yes, it would. I wanted to clone last time, and I learned that it was not possible. But I forgot this feature request and did not mention it to Dwayne at LibOCon. I was convinced that maintaning two branches with suggestions may be a pain for most of the teams. I think about the stable branch as it is for fixing annoying translation bugs only, and the newer branch is for the real work. If a team could not finish 3.6.x translations by now, maybe it's time to go for 4.0 instead. So, I would not mind, if cloning was possible, but I would give higher priority to some other feature requests. What do others think? Andras -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Start of LibreOffice 4.0 translation
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps fully cloning projects (with suggestions and other stuff) would be a valid feature request for Pootle? :) Yes, it would. I wanted to clone last time, and I learned that it was not possible. But I forgot this feature request and did not mention it to Dwayne at LibOCon. I was convinced that maintaning two branches with suggestions may be a pain for most of the teams. I think about the stable branch as it is for fixing annoying translation bugs only, and the newer branch is for the real work. If a team could not finish 3.6.x translations by now, maybe it's time to go for 4.0 instead. So, I would not mind, if cloning was possible, but I would give higher priority to some other feature requests. What do others think? I would ask anyway, but state it has lower priority for us. Worst case, it will just be an item on their wish list. And I think that after we finish with the 3.6.4 update, there's no point of continuing translation that branch, and focus should be moved completely to the 4.0 branch. Kaplan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted