Re: [lace] More bobbins
It's funny, DH will ask about the price of the shopping, how much I'm spending on fuel. What the vets bills were and can't we negotiate. But a new bobbin? Don't I need a pair? Am I sure I only want that one what about the others? A new pillow? Who makes the best? L Sent from my iPad On 17 Mar 2013, at 02:30, Elizabeth Ligeti lizl...@bigpond.com wrote: ..who said the she didn't need more bobbins... Shirley T should know, by now, the difference between Need and Want!! I am still trying to teach my DH the difference. He refuses to learn - for some strange reason!!! - especially when there are lace suppliers anywhere around!!! :) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] More bobbins
Oh there's a definite difference!! This made me smile our daughter worked out the difference when she was about 3 years old! 'I want those red boots' did her no good whatsoever, so she waited till the next time she saw Grandma 'I NEED those red boots to keep my toesies nice and warm'!! She still has a shoe fetish!!! LOL Now Shirley how dare you drop the rest of us lacemakers in the mire with our other halves by saying you don't 'need' more bobbins LOL Sue in East Yorkshire On 17 Mar 2013, at 02:30, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: ..who said the she didn't need more bobbins... Shirley T should know, by now, the difference between Need and Want!! I am still trying to teach my DH the difference. He refuses to learn - for some strange reason!!! - especially when there are lace suppliers anywhere around!!! :) They are 2 different words with 2 different meanings, Shirley! :) Probably Shirley has pillows filled with the beautiful Aluminium bobbins her DH makes! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Horseshoe cover cloths
Hi Peg Now I could say 'a horse's shoe' but you'd probably throw something over to the uk!! LOL Basically it's a round cover cloth which is about 3/4 of a full circle. There's a 'hole' in the middle which makes the fabric look like a very fat horse shoe or curvy U shape. You can frequently get them lightly padded as well. Hope I've made myself clear, because I can see it in my mind Sue in East Yorkshire On 16 Mar 2013, at 23:31, Witchy Woman wrote: Catching up on the Arachne archive and came upon your mention of a horseshoe shaped cover cloth. I'm intrigued. What exactly does it look like? Peg - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re Susan of Tennessee
I wonder what did become of Susan, I had forgotten all about her, is it that long ago David? Shirley in Corio Oz. sme...@iinet.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lurking, and enjoying.
I post very rarely. I am an experienced lacemaker (43 years) but I am not a teacher. I usually find that, by the time I have put my reply to a query into words, someone more used to teaching has replied to the query in a clearer way! But I do enjoy reading the list very much, and the last few days of discussion have been wonderful. The list keeps me in touch with lace and lacemakers. There are a couple of local groups, but I cannot reach them on public transport - and I don't drive. So, it is the list which keeps me in touch and inspires me to make lace sometimes. I find that without meeting up with other lacemakers to discuss lace, there is not the necessary stimulation. I think a commemorative cover cloth would be the ideal celebration of our 20 years. I usually use continental shaped bobbins, so I wouldn't use a spangled bobbin and so wouldn't see it very often. But a cover cloth is there all the time. Kathleen In Berkshire, UK, where it is raining yet again. I am very glad that I live on the top of a hill! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Replies to many!
Hi Arachnids What a lot of Digests! I think some lurkers have decided to unlurk, but why should the other lurkers not enjoy the Digests without replying? We are all different and as long as there are sufficient to keep the Digest rolling, does it matter? For those who are enjoying learning from out comments - keep reading, learning and lacemaking. I like the constant questions, and if the same ones reoccur there may be new facts and ideas among the answers. Not all answers will be right for all lacemakers. I have been making bobbin and other laces for over 40 years and I am still learning. Regarding cover cloths, personally I agree with some of the suggestions and disagree with others. Look at all the suggestions, try the ones you fancy and continue with the ones that suit you. Arachne 20 years - a Stuart Johnson bobbin please, I have a cupboard of cover cloths and I can only use one decorative one at a time. I don't even contemplate counting my bobbins, but I still don't have enough. Happy lacemaking to all, contributors, lurkers and especially all involved in keeping Lace Digest going Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Replies to many!
Arachne 20 years - a Stuart Johnson bobbin please, I have a cupboard of cover cloths and I can only use one decorative one at a time. Wow! Alex, I'm impressed - I presume only one decorative one means you have only one pillow on the go at any one time!! Sue - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] If you can still count your bobbins......
Thank you, Noelene - I hadn't seen that one before. I love your poems, and this must be one of the best! Margery. margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Herts, UK -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Noelene Lafferty Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 8:29 PM To: 'Lace' Subject: RE: [lace] If you can still count your bobbins.. As I have received a couple of requests for How Many Bobbins, here it is. I hope this works with just line feeds in the right places. I may not have posted it before, it's quite long for one of my poems. How Many Bobbins by Noelene Lafferty A friend asked me once With a quizzical air Just how many bobbins are needed? If you want to make lace And not spend too much cash And then they've all got to be beaded. I took a deep breath And collected my thoughts Just how many bobbins' enough? I thought of my bobbins In boxes and rolls Just trying to count would be tough. You need some to start with To make bandage strips Are bobbins that sharp she did ask. I ignored that remark And started again This would be quite a difficult task To start with you need About 20 odd pair You can't have an odd pair.. Pipe down But to move on to bookmarks And simple lace edges.. And at this she started to frown. You mean you need lots more But how many's enough? There must be a target to aim for. Like Miss Channer's Mat How many for that? I took another deep breath and said More. To do Miss Channer's Mat You need three hundred or more That's pairs, and not for the faint hearted. And then you need more For the pillows galore On which other projects are started. My friend looked at me With her quizzical air Just how many pillows are needed? If you want to make lace And not spend too much cash? I've no answer to that! I conceded. Noelene in Cooma nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Lurking, and enjoying.
Kathleen Harris wrote: I usually find that, by the time I have put my reply to a query into words, someone more used to teaching has replied to the query in a clearer way! But, Kathleen, it's good to see different explanations/replies. Someone else's reply may seem clear to some of us, and confusing to others; a second explanation, from a different point of view, will get through to a whole other set of people. Please don't hold back for that reason G. Margery. margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Herts, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Replies to many!
Subject: Re: [lace] Replies to many! Arachne 20 years - a Stuart Johnson bobbin please, I have a cupboard of cover cloths and I can only use one decorative one at a time. Wow! Alex, I'm impressed - I presume only one decorative one means you have only one pillow on the go at any one time!! Sue Hi Sue I only use one pillow at a time. I have two more on the go with a pretty cover cloth on each, but I only have one pair of hands and one brain to work them. (One is the clock face that is on the front cover of my Bucks book.) However I sometimes have as many as 240 pairs on one pillow so more bobbins are always useful. As I use different thicknesses of threads I need bobbins and spangles of different weights to suit them and it is not fun respangling 100 bobbins because I need them lighter or heavier for a particular piece. I have recently been playing this game when I found some 240/2 and needed very light spangles. Perhaps you are not so impressed now, especially as the clock face has not moved for over 6 years. Happy lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Replies to many!
Hi Sue I only use one pillow at a time. I have two more on the go with a pretty cover cloth on each, but I only have one pair of hands and one brain to work them. (One is the clock face that is on the front cover of my Bucks book.) However I sometimes have as many as 240 pairs on one pillow so more bobbins are always useful. As I use different thicknesses of threads I need bobbins and spangles of different weights to suit them and it is not fun respangling 100 bobbins because I need them lighter or heavier for a particular piece. I have recently been playing this game when I found some 240/2 and needed very light spangles. Perhaps you are not so impressed now, especially as the clock face has not moved for over 6 years. Happy lacemaking Alex - Original Message - From: sueba...@comcast.net To: Alex Stillwell Cc: Arachne reply Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Replies to many! Arachne 20 years - a Stuart Johnson bobbin please, I have a cupboard of cover cloths and I can only use one decorative one at a time. Wow! Alex, I'm impressed - I presume only one decorative one means you have only one pillow on the go at any one time!! Sue - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Twist Cross, patternn note correction
Hi Alice Apologies for the mistake in the magazine. I´ve just checked and and the gimp pairs say 2 bobbins + 2 pairs, but omits to say that they are gimps. Not sure where the 36 pairs comes from, as you can count across the top of the working diagram and it adds up to 40. Regarding the gimps, you will need 2 pairs and 2 single gimps, the single ones form the atennae. Regarding the thread, now I´m living in Spain I have started using Spanish thread which is readily available. Finca de Bolillos 80 works up well and is lovely and crisp. Any other problems with the pattern, please let me know. Happy Lacemaking Pam Mattioli in cloudy, but warm southern Spain Quoting lacel...@frontier.com: I'm working a pattern from Vuelta y Cruz (Twist Cross), number 2, Aug. 2011. Page 8 -- Bucks Point bookmark with butterflies. It lists 36 pair bobbins, plus 2 pair gimp. It really takes 40 pair plus 3 pair gimp. You might want to make a note if you have this magazine. If you wind only what it says, you will come up short. I'm just starting... have done 1/4 inch. It will be interesting when I get far enough to remove some of the pins. There's such a forest of them that I can't see what I've done. It's also interesting to compare this project with my previous one. This one has 20 stitches in the space of one stitch in my last project. The thread is a 'mite' thinner. G Alice in Oregon -- getting ready for a demo at a museum tomorrow. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Replies to many!
At one time - when a very green newbee - somewhat still a newbee - i didn't realize that the thickness of the thread would work better with more or less weight on the spangles appropriately. i too decided to compensate but went for fishing pole weights. you can get them really small so they add just the weight of an extra bead or two. it doesn't look so grand unless you decide to paint them, but they can be added and removed easily for the duration of the project without damaging the bobbins. it sure saves time on the spangling which can be mostly uniform except for colors and shapes. just a thought. Hugs, Lin and the Mali Overton, NV USA On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Alex Stillwell alexstillw...@talktalk.netwrote: Hi Sue I only use one pillow at a time. I have two more on the go with a pretty cover cloth on each, but I only have one pair of hands and one brain to work them. (One is the clock face that is on the front cover of my Bucks book.) However I sometimes have as many as 240 pairs on one pillow so more bobbins are always useful. As I use different thicknesses of threads I need bobbins and spangles of different weights to suit them and it is not fun respangling 100 bobbins because I need them lighter or heavier for a particular piece. I have recently been playing this game when I found some 240/2 and needed very light spangles. Perhaps you are not so impressed now, especially as the clock face has not moved for over 6 years. Happy lacemaking Alex - Original Message - From: sueba...@comcast.net To: Alex Stillwell Cc: Arachne reply Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Replies to many! Arachne 20 years - a Stuart Johnson bobbin please, I have a cupboard of cover cloths and I can only use one decorative one at a time. Wow! Alex, I'm impressed - I presume only one decorative one means you have only one pillow on the go at any one time!! Sue - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ -- Hugs, Lin and the Mali Always remember that no matter how useless you feel, youre someones reason to smile. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Lurking, and enjoying.
Thank you Margery, I will try to remember that next time I think I may be able to offer some information. Kathleen - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] exchange/friendship
Thank you for the mention Mary. I am one of the guilty lurkers who do not post to Arachne very often but I have just spent a very pleasant hour reading about 50 Arachne emails on the importance of internet lace friendships amongst other things. I agree but, all the regular contributors seem to be so quick off the mark in replying to a query that I usually think that my two-pennorth is not needed. Being suitably chastened after Jeri's original post on lurkers versus volunteers, I will try to send my opinion a little more often now. By the way, Jenny Koops has now published a book on 25 Bookmarks. Maybe I will put some in my suitcase when I (hopefully) come to Adelaide in 2014. I will need to make some extra money to buy dinkum Aussie lace goods like your cover cloths and aluminium bobbins from Shirley's DH (as if I needed any more bobbins). Unfortunately, Mary Hughes who painted those lovely bobbins is not able to do it any more due to advanced age and macular degeneration of her eyes. She still manages to make lace though in an enlarged version using Perle No. 12 and her memory of many years of making lace. Janis Savage in Honeydew South Africa where I have just come back from a birthday lunch with the family and sent the grandchildren away with excess birthday cake to take to school tomorrow. -- Must be 15 years ago that a self-published booklet 15 Lace Patterns of Crosses by Jenny Koops of South Africa was mentioned on the list. Janis Savage arranged for friends of hers to carry a copy to Sydney and sent two very nicely painted bobbins for me. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] exchange/friendship
Now Janis never mind going to Oz and taking those books with you come to the UK and bring them here!!! LOL We like books over here as well Sue in a rather damp East Yorkshire On 17 Mar 2013, at 15:35, Janis Savage wrote: Thank you for the mention Mary. I am one of the guilty lurkers who do not post to Arachne very often but I have just spent a very pleasant hour reading about 50 Arachne emails on the importance of internet lace friendships amongst other things. I agree but, all the regular contributors seem to be so quick off the mark in replying to a query that I usually think that my two-pennorth is not needed. Being suitably chastened after Jeri's original post on lurkers versus volunteers, I will try to send my opinion a little more often now. By the way, Jenny Koops has now published a book on 25 Bookmarks. Maybe I will put some in my suitcase when I (hopefully) come to Adelaide in 2014. I will need to make some extra money to buy dinkum Aussie lace goods like your cover cloths and aluminium bobbins from Shirley's DH (as if I needed any more bobbins). Unfortunately, Mary Hughes who painted those lovely bobbins is not able to do it any more due to advanced age and macular degeneration of her eyes. She still manages to make lace though in an enlarged version using Perle No. 12 and her memory of many years of making lace. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] 20th anniversary, horseshoe cover cloth fishing weights
Hello All! Robin--great idea! Patches of uniform-size lace would make an interesting result. As Robin knows, Pittsburgh Lace Group made an afghan for one of the members when she lost her eyesight a few years ago. It was a fun project well received. Arachne lace would make nice gifts for our founders or could be a traveling ambassador for the group. There could be a challenge section for those who prefer to design their own rather that use a commercial pattern. Post the results on Jenny's site if she'll have us etc. g Jean--thanks for posting the link to eBay--but could you have picked a snazzy one? The one offered is ZZ blue! g Lin-k, you have scared the bejeebers out of me by using fishing weights unless they are not lead! My DH is an avid fisherman uses lots of pencil weights, drop shot, jig heads etc. etc. they all contain lead. IMHO, if they are not painted or coated they should not be handled. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gard! ens, FL, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lurking and enjoing
Hello All, since laong time I`m a Spider. But only a lurker. Sorry my English ist not as well as yours, so I´m to schy to write and discuss.But I`m so happy to be a Arachean Melanie from Germany. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 20th anniversary
Robin, Remember the days when we used to have heaps of tatted Round Robins on the go? Nothing ever went wrong with the postage all round the world. Occasionally one person would hold up the procedure, but that's all. I had envisaged the various elements being sent to one person or group to be assembled. David in Ballarat, AUS I'm concerned about the logistics of a panel, passing from person to person around the world, never getting lost in the mail and never getting stuck at the home of someone who meant well but now just can't seem to find the time and eventually is too embarrassed to admit she still has it (remember the recent post about bookmark/ornament exchanges that ended up 1-sided?). One way this might be avoided is if we settle on a size and everyone can make squares (or rectangles, hexagons or whatever shape is decided) and one person or close-knit group is in charge of receiving all the pieces and attaching them like quilt blocks. The final size and shape is determined by how many blocks they receive, and there's no worry about how much of the panel each person does (did we run out of volunteers before the panel was complete, or did we run out of panel space to work on when there are still people wanting to participate?). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lurking and enjoing
Melanie, I completely understand what you have written. On the other hand, if I tried to write German, I could not do it! Unfortunately, the only language other than English that I can (barely) read is French. So please post more often... In German, if you wish! That would help a lot of us learn another language! I have a few lace books which are only written in German. At one time, my neighbor was from Germany, and his wife was a American, and spoke fluent German and was a translator for companies who have international contacts. So I asked them to help me translate something in a book. It made no sense at all to them, so he picked up his cell phone and called his mother in Germany! She had no idea what the author was trying to say either. And the problem is that unless one is a lacemaker and knows the terms used to describe lace to a German, even a German doesn't know the language! This is why I would welcome your comments... With German mixed in! Clay Clay Sent from my iPad... Trimmed! On Mar 17, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Jörg Winkler jmwink...@web.de wrote: Hello All, since laong time I`m a Spider. But only a lurker. Sorry my English ist not as well as yours, so I´m to schy to write and discuss.But I`m so happy to be a Arachean Melanie from Germany. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 20th anniversary - international mail issues
Dear David in Australia, My experience is that since the 9/11 attack on U.S. buildings and related terror incidents, various postal entities in many nations have instituted screening processes that involve putting incoming packages in holding facilities until they can get around to clearing them for flight to other locations in the country. This delays deliveries, sometimes quite a while. My Maine book supplier and embroidery book supplier in Arizona tell me it is impossible to estimate when an ordered book shipment will arrive from overseas. The book shipments I order directly from The Lace Guild (England) and Barbara Fay (Germany) show evidence of being clumsily opened and re-sealed, and often the contents are damaged. I am describing strong books, not fine needleworks. So, in addition to greatly-increased postage charges, we are penalized for being victims of atrocity. It would be good to keep this in mind while we discuss how to celebrate our Arachne birthday. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center --- In a message dated 3/17/2013 3:08:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dccoll...@ncable.net.au writes: Remember the days when we used to have heaps of tatted Round Robins on the go? Nothing ever went wrong with the postage all round the world. Occasionally one person would hold up the procedure, but that's all. I had envisaged the various elements being sent to one person or group to be assembled. David in Ballarat, AUS - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Jenny Koops' books
I did an Internet search and couldn't find anything on Jenny's books. I take it they aren't sold internationally? I'm in the US. I'd love to have the one with crosses. Liz in chilly, rainy Missouri. The soil is drinking it up after the drought last summer. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] exchange/friendship
Wish I could Sue. I don't think the sale of a few books would pay for the airfare though. I did go to the lace Guild AGM weekend a few years ago and enjoyed it very much. If you are going, have a great time. Janis Savage Now Janis never mind going to Oz and taking those books with you come to the UK and bring them here!!! LOL We like books over here as well Sue in a rather damp East Yorkshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lurking and enjoing
Melanie, I agree with Clay. Your English was very understandable. Please keep on writing! Liz, Raleigh, NC - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Hacked
Sorry if you received spam email from my account. I was hacked. ? All has been resolved now, ? Amber Forest, VA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] exchange/friendship
Now Sue, why don't you save up your pennies and join us in Adelaide for the OIDFA Congress in July 2014?? Now there's a challenge for you. :-) Cheers, Shirley T. - thoroughly enjoying the Arachne messages. A wee bit warmer today, 27C. On 18/03/2013 3:16 AM, Sue Duckles wrote: Now Janis never mind going to Oz and taking those books with you come to the UK and bring them here!!! LOL We like books over here as well Sue in a rather damp East Yorkshire On 17 Mar 2013, at 15:35, Janis Savage wrote: - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] language of lace
I think it was Clay who said for those who read/speak/write another language to sprinkle their English emails with a few German/French/Australian/etc lace words so those who want to can gradually learn that XYZ in Australian means ABC in English - you get the gist of what I mean? Eg if I am talking about the piece of beds lace I am making now I could use the term 'cloth stitch trail' and Google translate makes that ' Leinenschlag trail in German, ' тропа ткани стежком' in Russian and ' paño pista puntada' in Spanish Now I don’t know if the translator is correct, but if my 1st language was Spanish I would write something like The lace I am working on has a cloth stitch trail (paño pista puntada) that surrounds the spray of leaves (pulverización de las hojas). Thus with time the English speaking ones of us would be able to recognise key words. Those who don’t want to learn just ignore the 'other' language as the English words are there too. This is easy for me to say as I would be a recipient of the learning, not the writer of the emails but please give this some thought. I look forward to seeing our emails in the future Regards Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia je...@brandis.com.au www.brandis.com.au - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] An abundance of Lace
Today I logged on to find 7 Lace digests which I am getting through. I came across this one from Liz. I already knew that Liz was coming to IOLI as I am the Teacher Coordinator for the convention and get to see the registration list on a weekly basis. I knew we had 2 lacemakers coming from Australia. I look forward to seeing you and your husband in Salt Lake City. As to when you will hear, that depends on how soon people send in their registrations. After the initial spurt in February, they are coming in slowly and I have heard from some lacemakers around the country that their friends have yet to send in their registrations. Please encourage your lace mates to send in their applications so that we do not have to cancel the teachers who have low numbers. Surprisingly, it is the popular teachers this time that have low numbers. We hope to let everyone know what classes they have by sometime in May. Liz, I am pretty sure your Russian class will be a go but there is still space in it. The Russian class is being taught by Sylvie Nguyen and is a replacement class for the morning class being taught by Vera Cockyt. Vera had to cancel her classes, and her afternoon class is Spania Dolina taught by Dagmar Beckel-Machyckova. This class is also a go but has a few spaces. Janice Blair From: Elizabeth Ligeti lizl...@bigpond.com Subject: [lace] Salt Lace City convention. Irene, I will be there at the IOLI convention, so I hope I get to meet you. When can we expect to hear what class we managed to get in to, and other information? I am really looking forward to it, and meeting up with old friends and making new ones. I am hoping to meet some Needlelace Talk friends, and some Arachne friends, too, as well as some of my guild members - - I am still a member of the Rocky Mt,. Lace Guild. It will be great to meet up with Internet friends. Lists like this are so important, - especially to those who can't get out to many lace related events. Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] language of lace
Dear Arachnes, Although I like the idea of sprinkling our messages with lace terms from our native languages, I should warn you never to trust machine translations (and I should know, I'm a certified translator!) with your lace terms. Jenny's message was a good example. The terms she had Google translate into Spanish (cloth-stitch trail and spray of leaves) came out as fabric track pin-prick and leave spraying [as when you spray vegetables with pesticide] he he he he... See what I mean? I think we have a very nice lace glossary stored in our Archives section. It would be better to consult it rather than trust to the mechanic mercies of machine translators... Just my two cents (granito de arena), Debora Lustgarten - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] peccadilles
Hi, all, I came across a mention of peccadilles in some non-lace reading and got curious and decided to do some research. My lace library isn't as extensive as others' so when I didn't find anything (e.g. Earnshaw, Dictionary of lace), I turned to Google. First stop, Wikipedia, which suggested this is cutwork (so likely an embroidery rather than lace technique) and confirmed that further research might be productive. Here's Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piccadill http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piccadill A piccadill or pickadill is a large broad collar of cut-work lace that became fashionable in the late 16th century and early 17th century. The term may originate from a conjectured Spanish word picadillo, from picado meaning punctured or pierced. This is similar to the Spanish word picadura, used for the lace collars of the seventeenth century that contained much elaborate cut work. Examples of a piccadill can be seen on portraits of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth_I Queen Elizabeth I and other portraits of her contemporaries such as Sir Walter Raleigh. Piccadilly, a street in central London, is believed to be named after the piccadill, perhaps because a landowner in the area once made his fortune from them. There seems to be other information online, not all in languages I read. Here's one that confirms the Wikipedia entry (or may be where the information originated J.) Historic dress 1608-1800 (Internet Archives) http://www.archive.org/stream/1607historicdres00mccluoft/1607historicdres00 mccluoft_djvu.txt http://www.archive.org/stream/1607historicdres00mccluoft/1607historicdres00m ccluoft_djvu.txt The fashionable costume in England during the reign of Charles I, made familiar to us by the magic brush of Vandyke, was picturesque in the extreme. A gentleman of those days wore a doublet of satin or velvet with large loose sleeves slashed up the front (Figures 45, 46); the collar covered by a falling band of richest point-lace with the peculiar edging now called Vandyke (Figures 14 and 16), and a short cloak worn carelessly over one shoulder. Bands were called 'peccadilles ' when trimmed with this pointed lace, so fashionable in the middle of the seventeenth century, and it is interesting to read that the fashionable London thoroughfare, Piccadilly, gets its name from a shop where peccadilles were made and sold in the reign of Charles I. I'm flagging this as it sounds worthy of more research, and would be interested to hear from anyone who has information on this. It will certainly enhance my visits to Piccadilly Street/Circus on future trips to London. FWIW, I've been holding onto this information for some time, trying to decide whether to post it. The conversation this week about lurkers and all made up my mind. I've been on the list since the very early days, and go through phases of posting and not. I suggest there are many reasons why people post or don't, and ultimately it's up to each of us how or whether we want to contribute. Encouragement always bears better results than negativity. The list may feel it is democratic, international, welcoming and all-inclusive, and indeed by and large is. However, regardless of the intent, responses don't always come across that way. I'm not sure which is more disheartening, having messages ignored when one has gone to the effort of sharing information, or being chastised because one hasn't met some arbitrary standard. And that could be for the lace content, but I've also seen it for formatting, grammar and/or language. I've had it happen to me and have seen it with others. None of this is conducive to participation; I'm not thin-skinned but I need to maximise my returns and Arachne isn't the only way to do this. The reception people get when they post is arguably a major factor in why people stay or disappear and surely the latter is not what we want. In the meantime, I hope the information on peccadilles is useful to someone. JulieO in Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada who REALLY planned to make lace this afternoon. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Hacked
Sorry if you received spam email from my account. I was hacked. ? All has been resolved now, ? Amber Forest, VA To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Re Susan of Tennessee
Moving to Chat, since it's OT on Lace. On Mar 17, 2013, at 4:19 AM, Shirley Meier wrote: I wonder what did become of Susan, I had forgotten all about her, is it that long ago David? Shirley in Corio Oz. sme...@iinet.net Wasn't, really; David misremembers :) The last we heard from darling Susan (the Scourge of Lace and Lace Chat) was that she was -- finally! despite all the evil scheming! -- accepted to the military. Since my very first thought was: I hope they ship you to Iraq, pronto. And that you'll have no 'puter access, it had to have been *at least* 2003... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] Re Susan of Tennessee
Nice to hear from you Tamara - don't believe you've posted for such a long time. I used to enjoy your 'play on words' - made me stop and do some research, other than lace. :-) Lorraine Hatcher was asking after you the other day. Cheers, Shirley T. - Adelaide, 27C today climbing to 34C by Wednesday. I guess summer hasn't finished with us yet!! On 18/03/2013 3:01 PM, Tamara P Duvall wrote: Wasn't, really; David misremembers :) The last we heard from darling Susan (the Scourge of Lace and Lace Chat) was that she was -- finally! despite all the evil scheming! -- accepted to the military. Since my very first thought was: I hope they ship you to Iraq, pronto. And that you'll have no 'puter access, it had to have been *at least* 2003... To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] Re Susan of Tennessee
On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:49 AM, Tregellas Family wrote: Nice to hear from you Tamara - don't believe you've posted for such a long time. I used to enjoy your 'play on words' - made me stop and do some research, other than lace. :-) Lorraine Hatcher was asking after you the other day. Cheers, Shirley T. - Adelaide, 27C today climbing to 34C by Wednesday. I guess summer hasn't finished with us yet!! Thanks for missing me :) My husband (of nearly 40 yrs) got sick around Christmas of '11, died in March of 12, and I lost my... not cotton-pickin'... but lacemaking mind. I'm beginning to climb out, but it's still a very slow process and not reliable. I only read what I think I *have to*, or stuff that doesn't require any mental acuity, because everything takes forever (I still cannot concentrate for any length of time, though I'm way past the 30 seconds, max stage). It's good to see a lot of the familiar names still posting, though. Even the ones who are as self-righteous as ever :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
