Re: [lace] lace photos
Some really stunning pieces! A bit on the short side but could of course be lengthened. Highly fashionable for the younger generation. Catherine Barley UK Catherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com From: Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:37 PM Subject: [lace] lace photos I swear this isn't a porn site. It is the Russian Institute of Folk Arts. Bobbin tape lace made into modern very very short clothing. Really interesting. Lorelei http://vshni.ru/kafedra_kruzevo.htm - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Easiest for who?
From: Bronwen of Hindscroft welshw...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [lace] Lace and math, was Teaching children Easiest for who? As a left hander, this kind of idea (that all a right hander needed to do was sit opposite and let me mirror image) is part of what caused me to hate.. Hi Bronwen Iâm a left hander and have always been reasonably able with my right hand so my mother said that as I could use both hands I could learn to knit right handed as it uses both hands. Unfortunately, although I can knit and have done fairisle, the wrong hand is dominant and I feel like I am fighting myself. Like you, the experience means I hate it. I have taught myself to crochet and tat right handed and can teach them successfully to right handers. When I teach a left-hander I feel confused about what to say regarding the words left and right and end up just working slowly saying âdo thisâ. It works but it would be better if I could add the commentary. Can someone explain this? ( I have my own ideas but donât want to express them and start another free-for-all with some members getting very indignant. Iâll let someone else take the flack for this one.) Happy lacemaking Alex P.S Not sure how to cut an email. I copy the relevant part, paste it into a new page and go on from there. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] lace photos
Hi Lorelei Love the lace on this site. But wouldn't date to wear it myself. Maureen E Yorks - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Easiest for who?
Morning All Ok so, some people have suggested using a mirror to 'teach' left-handers how to knit/sew/crochet/tat etc If you look on the 'net' there are a veritable wealth of videos showing just exactly how to do all of these using either right or left hands Alex says that she taught herself how to tat and crochet right handed so that she can teach it and that if the person was left handed then she struggles When we're making lace do we think which hand to pick up the pin? which hand to use the pricker in? No!! Most people who are left handed adapt very readily to a right hand world... I taught myself to crochet, and tat why?? because I'm left handed! Over the years I've found that most left handers are very adept at 'swapping' around when they see how to do something shown by a right handed person. they have to be, after all they don't teach you separately in school to write because you're left handed do they?? Before you all write in and share your experiences of being made to sit on your left hand and use the 'wrong' one to write with we know about those... LOL. However, we can write, we can read, bake, sew on a button Please don't forget that we've been adapting for years with scissors, tin openers, doors (it annoys my family that the 'handle' on our lounge door is 'left handed' and they catch their knuckles when closing it VBG), we don't complain that much because we accept it! So, if someone really wants to 'learn' they will!! Oh, and, I knit northern english method, with the right hand needle under my arm, and wool in right hand, continentals don't have a problem with wool in left hand, so if someone struggles to learn one method, learn the other!! I crochet left handed, and tat left handed, pins are picked up with the left for bobbin lace, as is the pricker, scissors etc And yes, I use a fork in my left hand and a knife in my right! after all, you use the fork more than you do the knife do right handers struggle with that?? Back down off soapbox!! Sue in East Yorkshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Easiest for who?
Hi As a left hander I knit, crochet , needlelace etc left handed. I can usually sit opposite someone to work out how to do something otherwise I watch them do it right handed and transpose it. I have very rarely had a left handed teacher so I have always found my own way to follow instructions. Crochet patterns in words are fine but the picture ones I find too difficult to transpose. Lace is great as it is not left or right handed. Corinne Brighton UK -Original Message- From: alexstillw...@talktalk.net Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:51 AM To: Arachne reply Cc: welshw...@gmail.com Subject: [lace] Easiest for who? From: Bronwen of Hindscroft welshw...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [lace] Lace and math, was Teaching children Easiest for who? As a left hander, this kind of idea (that all a right hander needed to do was sit opposite and let me mirror image) is part of what caused me to hate.. Hi Bronwen I’m a left hander and have always been reasonably able with my right hand so my mother said that as I could use both hands I could learn to knit right handed as it uses both hands. Unfortunately, although I can knit and have done fairisle, the wrong hand is dominant and I feel like I am fighting myself. Like you, the experience means I hate it. I have taught myself to crochet and tat right handed and can teach them successfully to right handers. When I teach a left-hander I feel confused about what to say regarding the words left and right and end up just working slowly saying ‘do this’. It works but it would be better if I could add the commentary. Can someone explain this? ( I have my own ideas but don’t want to express them and start another free-for-all with some members getting very indignant. I’ll let someone else take the flack for this one.) Happy lacemaking Alex P.S Not sure how to cut an email. I copy the relevant part, paste it into a new page and go on from there. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] lace photos
Interesting makeup choices, not sure it brings out their best features. Nice lace. Models a bit on the scrawny side, not anorexic, but Twiggy-ish. They look very aloof. Wearing the lace would require someone rather daring. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Maureen maur...@roger.karoo.co.uk wrote: Hi Lorelei Love the lace on this site. But wouldn't date to wear it myself. Maureen E Yorks - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] lace photos
I know what it is about the models that bothers me, they have no arm muscles! Thus looking unhealthy to me. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:59 AM, John Mead johnbobm...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting makeup choices, not sure it brings out their best features. Nice lace. Models a bit on the scrawny side, not anorexic, but Twiggy-ish. They look very aloof. Wearing the lace would require someone rather daring. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Maureen maur...@roger.karoo.co.ukwrote: Hi Lorelei Love the lace on this site. But wouldn't date to wear it myself. Maureen E Yorks - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] In Fine Style
After the excitement over the book, In Fine Style... last month, I went to Amazon and ordered it (June 22). I was feeling rather smug that the shipping was free! Today, I got an email from Amazon saying my book had shipped and should arrive by July 16! I'm guessing free meant it was on the slow boat! Still, I'm really looking forward to getting it... Just in time for my birthday! Clay P.S. Happy Birthday David... A couple of weeks early! Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] lace photos
They do. Body makeup and photoshop perhaps? About lengthening as others have mentioned - that would mean more lacing! Think of these as art pieces with the models as the 'frames.' On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:09 AM, John Mead johnbobm...@gmail.com wrote: I know what it is about the models that bothers me, they have no arm muscles! Thus looking unhealthy to me. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Easiest for who?
I'm not snipping any one email, as it's the general subject I'm replying to. I am pretty left handed. Even though I live in a right handed world, I struggle to do things right handed. As an adult, I've found that I've picked up the ability (somewhat) to watch what a right hander is doing and transfer it around, but it takes me a while. The day I learned how to do french knots was because an acquaintance was making a french knot sheep on a piece of embroidery she was making and doing hundreds of french knots. I watched her (a right hander) for about an hour and a half, when finally my mind was able to twist it around and I figured out how to do it. I was over thirty at the time, and had been doing embroidery since I was 8. And even though I finally know how to do a french knot, it took me 8 years of doing needle lace before I finally figured out that some of the picots in modern needle lace are really just french knots. See, all the pictures in the books were made for right handers, and my picots always fell apart. Since I finally made the connection, I've done my left-handed french knot, and not had any picot fall apart since. I have another acquaintance that's even more left oriented than I am. She had a standard transmission (aka stick shift) car she loved, but she almost couldn't learn to drive it when she first obtained it because she couldn't figure out how to coordinate her left hand to work that way. I think some of us left handers who are older, who grew up in a world of one hand fits all where we had to turn the scissors upside down to cut paper, who had (school) teachers teach us the worst way possible to hold our papers so we had to learn to write upside down and backwards (and they probably did that because they didn't know there would be a difference to how to tilt the paper), who had to learn to peel potatoes backwards because the blade was only sharp on one side of the peeler, I think we had to develop a bit of plasticity. We *had* to learn to use our right hands, at least to a certain extent. (And I'm not even going into the people who were forced to be right handers when they were really left handers.) But today there's a lot more acceptance for left handers. We are allowed to exist. There are few (if any) stories of I started left handed but when I went to school the teachers forced me to be right handed in the under 30 demographic. There are a lot more ambidextrous and left hand only tools (scissors, peelers, etc). This means we have to be more sensitive to the people who don't have the plasticity to learn just by looking at something reversed. I know, in my own body-mind connection, that I can't just look in a mirror or just sit opposite somebody else. There is a difference in the way I view the world. And while I now have a lot more plasticity and CAN eventually get it, as a child I hadn't developed that skill yet. As a 6 year old, trying to learn how to crochet, I didn't even have the words to say, I don't know what you are doing, can you just let me watch you for two hours and see if I can figure it out myself? (Not that I had the attention span to sit and just watch somebody for two hours.) We were talking about teaching children lace, so we could pass on a dying art. I was just trying to caution that not all people can learn from one style, and that, when confronted with just sit opposite and you'll learn, that there are some people, children and adults, who can't do that, and we'd lose somebody who might otherwise become a great lace maker. I *can* crochet now, because of a left handed teacher when I was in high school. I've tried at least five times over my adult life to crochet and see if I can learn to enjoy it. I've made at least a dozen things in those five periods, including two blankets. And, I found I still hate crochet. Since I don't do bobbin lace, I don't know if it's a mostly ambidextrous activity. What I've seen, when I've watched friends who do bobbin lace, is that they usually use their right hands to insert the pins and move the bobbins. Does that translate well to a left hander trying to learn? I don't know. I do know as a left hander, trying to teach right handers some needle lace, there have been some issues with understanding what I was saying. Because of that, I've taken on teaching myself how to do the lace right handed, so I can show right handers. But even in that, I find I'm going at it left handed (backwards). At least, from the feedback I've been given. Just my two cents, since I started the whole thread. :) Bronwen -- Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Easiest for who?/handedness in BL
Hello Bronwen and everyone As far as I can tell, bobbin lace is neutral as to which hand is dominant. Instructions would be, for instance, 'place a pin' - use whichever hand you like. We make left- and right-facing picots. Scissors might be an issue, but there a person can use a specific tool that suits them. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Bronwen of Hindscroft welshw...@gmail.comwrote: Since I don't do bobbin lace, I don't know if it's a mostly ambidextrous activity. What I've seen, when I've watched friends who do bobbin lace, is that they usually use their right hands to insert the pins and move the bobbins. Does that translate well to a left hander trying to learn? -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Teaching children
Jenny, having met you for the first time last year, I'm not at all surprised that the munchkins keep coming back. You are an inspirational teacher. And surrogate grandmother how lovely. There are lots of very young grandmothers I must admit i have been surprised that the group has continued for so long!! Anna in a sunny Sydney - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Fw: Re: [lace] In Fine Style
Amazon has been out of stock for some time, which, in itself is amazing for a new book like this. Shows its popularity. They were out yesterday when I ordered it, but I had to order it from somewhere else. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA where summer continues, but a 'cold' front came through, so it's about 5F cooler than usual. After the excitement over the book, In Fine Style... last month, I went to Amazon and ordered it (June 22). I was feeling rather smug that the shipping was free! Today, I got an email from Amazon saying my book had shipped and should arrive by July 16! I'm guessing free meant it was on the slow boat! Still, I'm really looking forward to getting it... Just in time for my birthday! Clay My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
