[lace] Thread size and type
I am looking through a book of Russian Lace patterns and it mentions a thread called Mouline DMC cotton. It also mentions natural silk, linen and cotton can be used of appropriate thickness. Not sure I have found the right thing In Brendas magic book. I feel this might be an old type thread and would be interested to hear what threads are around now of similar thickness etc. Any help please, gratefully received. Sue T Dorset UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size and type
Mouline is stranded cotton so they are possibly suggesting you use one strand, or more for gimps.  Quite a few of my Russian lace books have stranded thread pictured and it's what we were given to work with in Moscow. The easiest way is just to see which thread is the right size to fit x pairs in the braids.  It might be finer than you think, and if it's too thick the plaited fillings will look clumsy. Jacquie in Lincolnshire Original message From Sue su...@talktalk.net Date: 29/01/2014 13:24 (GMT+00:00) To Arachne lace@arachne.com Subject [lace] Thread size and type I am looking through a book of Russian Lace patterns and it mentions a thread called Mouline DMC cotton. It also mentions natural silk, linen and cotton can be used of appropriate thickness. Not sure I have found the right thing In Brendas magic book. I feel this might be an old type thread and would be interested to hear what threads are around now of similar thickness etc. Any help please, gratefully received. Sue T Dorset UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size and type
Mouline means stranded cotton, so DMC stranded embroidery cotton, Anchor stranded embroidery, any other brand ... they are all pretty similar. Brenda On 29 Jan 2014, at 13:24, Sue wrote: I am looking through a book of Russian Lace patterns and it mentions a thread called Mouline DMC cotton. It also mentions natural silk, linen and cotton can be used of appropriate thickness. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Thank you ladies, I love to learn from you all. I want to use this on a piece of clothing so wonder if cotton might be a smarter plan? although the dress is not cotton, so might the anchor embroidery thread work as well? Not sure at the moment whether to to try to match or contrast colour. When i took the pattern out last night I wanted to get started, but now I think I will need to check out the threads first. Thank you all. Sue T Mouline is stranded cotton so they are possibly suggesting you use one strand, or more for gimps.  Quite a few of my Russian lace books have stranded thread pictured and it's what we were given to work with in Moscow. The easiest way is just to see which thread is the right size to fit x pairs in the braids.  It might be finer than you think, and if it's too thick the plaited fillings will look clumsy. Jacquie in Lincolnshire Mouline means stranded cotton, so DMC stranded embroidery cotton, Anchor stranded embroidery, any other brand ... they are all pretty similar. Brenda I am looking through a book of Russian Lace patterns and it mentions a thread called Mouline DMC cotton. It also mentions natural silk, linen and cotton can be used of appropriate thickness. Not sure I have found the right thing In Brendas magic book. I feel this might be an old type thread and would be interested to hear what threads are around now of similar thickness etc. Any help please, gratefully received. Sue T Dorset UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size and type
If you are using it on a piece of clothing which will be laundered, do make sure that whatever thread you choose is colour-fast Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com -Original Message- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] DMC Dyed Threads; Conservation Advice on Using for Gimps
Repeat information for many Arachne members. Important to newbies. DMC, Coats and Anchor embroidery flosses are cotton. I have toured the DMC factory complex in Mulhouse, France (near the Alps and a plentiful water supply) and observed all stages of production. Their product line is very old, and used to be of the highest quality when they had many knowledgeable customers. But quality has been compromised in some instances in the last 40 years, as you will read below. When everyone became concerned about water pollution from dyes (1970's), the DMC cotton embroidery floss (6 strands per skein) dye formulas changed. DMC then issued a list of color numbers that were no longer colorfast. When embroidered items were washed, some dyes ran. The owners of independent needlework shops then in existence used to give out little cards with all the numbers affected. These looked like a business card. Now, I believe we have a cheaper, poorer quality of DMC Mouline Special thread (floss) being sold in the huge chain stores (in the U.S.) and I daresay throughout the world. I say this because threads sometimes have slubs and a slightly uneven feel when drawn through the fingers of embroidery experts. To my knowledge, the big store chains do not warn about color fastness. Nor do the makers of embroidery kits with threads provided inside the packaging. Many first-time embroiderers (usually self-taught) have bought kits, stitched diligently but with with dirty hands, and washed the completed work, only to have dyes run. These people do not know to keep the fabric wet if dye is visibly bleeding into it. This has made many give up on embroidery and created enormous challenges for restorers of embroidery! If you use DMC floss as a gimp, you need to be certain a color will not run into white lace threads. I used to buy boxes of floss, remove the labels, soak in hot water and Orvus soap to give the harshest treatment possible before using, rinse in distilled water - pouring water off the side of the basin to prevent tangling. Then lay skeins between Bounty (promoted as acid-free) paper towels and press with fingers to remove excess water, and lay on a dry surface until ready to wind on small pieces of acid-free card to (again) prevent tangling. Then try to save the color number labels with the wound thread. It is messy and disagreeable to do at home, but my students deserved quality and no dye disaster. All this at-home dye purging work rendered it impossible to determine the nap of the thread so it could be pulled through fabric from the proper direction - indicated by the label showing the end to pull from the skein (also the end to thread in a needle). Therefore, I would knot the other end of each skein of thread to show it was not to be threaded in a needle eye before putting a skein to soak. Ugh! I have never charged for lessons, so all this labor was on me. In my opinion, DMC should have made all threads with permanent dyes - and spread the cost over their entire line of thread products. At the time, we joked that we should all switch to embroidering only white work. I'm not certain, but think that Anchor may be a better quality. I base this solely on the higher price and the specialty shops where it is sold. Someone else will be able to comment on it. I have no experience with Coats. Everyone - please keep this memo in your Conservation files/binders. It would apply to threads purchased over a period of maybe 40 years. If you give away old supplies to younger people.you know why I'm reminding you! This is related to the reason why I always use pastel threads to baste counting guiding lines in Hardanger fabrics and to establish the center of fabrics for counted cross stitch. In this case, not only because of possible dye transfer problems, but because tiny colored fibers may remain when basting is removed. We need a esteemed representative - like Therese de Dillmont - in the 21st Century. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Thread size required please
Evening Spiders I got a gorgeous pricking for Christmas from a good friend. It's a german pattern of an owl, however I can't find the thread in Brenda's book and the name doesn't mean anything to me Anyone any idea what thickness MARA 200-30 is? We think it's a Gutermann thread but that doesn't help. Thanks in advance Sue in a damp, windy East Yorkshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Raffles
I put all the names into little bags and took them with me when I went out today and a friend drew the following names: Lace published by Hamer and Waller was won by Carol in North Norfolk Coggeshall Lace by Jean Dudding was won by Maureen Bromley. If Carol and Maureen would e-mail me with their snail-mail addresses I will put the books into the mail. Congratulations to those who won and commiserations to all those who entered but werenât successful. Malvary in Ottawa where we have a glorious sunny day and only â12c but the wind-chill is still â21. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size required please
I've not seen it but it would appear to be this, http://www.wawak.com/products/product.cfm/pid/12289/Gutermann-Mara-30-Top-Stitch-Button-Hole-Thread-Tex-100-328-yds-131/ although size 30 is Tex 100 and size 70 is Tex 40 http://oshmanbrothers.com/store/page1.html A bit more digging into the web, from the Guetermann website it appears to be an industrial thread https://www.guetermann.com/shop/en/view/content/Industry-Filter-Page?node=type=nonepn_p=2 then in the 'Product name' box select Mara and you get 12 different versions, but none of them are 200, for ticket number, article number, Tex or anything else! Are you sure it's 200-30 ? Brenda On 29 Jan 2014, at 19:32, Sue Duckles wrote: Anyone any idea what thickness MARA 200-30 is? We think it's a Gutermann thread but that doesn't help. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Thread size required please
I've not seen it but it would appear to be this, http://www.wawak.com/products/product.cfm/pid/12289/Gutermann-Mara-30-Top-Stitch-Button-Hole-Thread-Tex-100-328-yds-131/ although size 30 is Tex 100 and size 70 is Tex 40 http://oshmanbrothers.com/store/page1.html A bit more digging into the web, from the Guetermann website it appears to be an industrial thread https://www.guetermann.com/shop/en/view/content/Industry-Filter-Page?node=type=nonepn_p=2 then in the 'Product name' box select Mara and you get 12 different versions, but none of them are 200, for ticket number, article number, Tex or anything else! Are you sure it's 200-30 ? Brenda On 29 Jan 2014, at 19:32, Sue Duckles wrote: Anyone any idea what thickness MARA 200-30 is? We think it's a Gutermann thread but that doesn't help. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re:DMC Dyed Threads; Conservation Advice on Using for Gimps
jeria...@aol.com wrote: We need a esteemed representative - like Therese de Dillmont - in the 21st Century. Don't we have one? Named Jeri Ames? Louise in Central Virginia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Sex after surgery
In recent article in the Kentucky Post reported that a woman, one Anne Maynard, has sued St Luke's hospital, saying that after her husband had surgery there, he lost all interest in sex. A hospital spokesman replied ... Mr. Maynard was admitted in Ophthalmology - all we did was correct his eyesight. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
