Re: [lace] Question about beads
And what about sequins? Can they also cut the thread? I have never used them, but are now wondering... Thanks a lot for all your contributions on this subject! Best wishes from Spain: lovely spring weather today. â -- Antje González www.vueltaycruz.es - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Question about beads - conservation files
Dear Antje, You asked about sequins. There is more than one type of sequin or similar attachment for lace and they are made from different materials. There are probably manufacturers in many countries and they may have different ways of manufacturing sequins. I suggest you draw thread through the holes in a few sequins available to you, to test if the thread is damaged. You will also want to test for color transfer from sequins (all colors in a manufacturer's line), and how they react to water. Old sequins were made of gelatin and they will dissolve in water, so test old supplies. Special metal sequins - called spangles - are mentioned in Gil Dye's 2012 Gold Silver Edgings - 16th and 17th Century Lace - Book 1, on page 9. They are used in Gil's reconstructions of lace edgings. At the time of publication, there were no suppliers and her spangles had to be made by hand.. Now, in 2015, spangles are available. They are hand cut from gilt silver specifically for bobbin lace, priced $1.50 US per piece! A maker was found, because spangles were needed for the recreation of the Layton jacket in Plimoth Plantation, Plymouth Massachusetts (search our archives if you wish to know more details). Devon was a volunteer lacemaker for this project. Few people will use these spangles, but you need to be aware of them since you are a lace expert in Spain, Antje. The US retail supplier can be found at: http://thistle-threads.myshopify.com/collections/accessories It is also possible to get small flat sequins that have been made from metal. I have used these in blackwork embroidery on linen, as was done in the 16th century. They were supplied by an Embroiderers' Guild teacher, and are not available from hobby shops. You need to test anything foreign that you work into laces. And those who are now making types of laces that will be washed should test all med ium-dark colors for colorfastness. We personally know that in the late 1970's DMC changed dye formulations due to enactment of new water pollution laws. DMC did not make the new colored threads colorfast. Bad corporate decision. Those who spent many hours embroidering and then washed their projects had a very bad result that could not be reversed. (If you have old DMC thread in your stash, you need to know this! Set aside some time, test your old threads, and throw away those that bleed.) Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center In a message dated 6/17/2015 2:48:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, antje.gonza...@gmail.com writes: And what about sequins? Can they also cut the thread? I have never used them, but are now wondering... Antje González www.vueltaycruz.es - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Question about beads
I imagine that you mean that the thread can break while working with it... Or can it also happen that it breaks after you have made the lace, once you are using it? I had never thought of this before until Pene asked. It has never happened to me... Do you think it can depend on the type of thread you use? Some are more resistant than others... Best wishes from a curious lacemaker from Spain -- Antje González www.vueltaycruz.es - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Question about beads
It would certainly happen both while you were making the lace and later, when it was being used, if you used sharp bugle beads. With the metal ones, I am not so sure. It would probably be fine in the making, but wear through the thread later. I don't think it would matter what thread you used - linen and silk would resist a little longer than cotton, but would break in the end, I think Kathleen In sunny Berkshire, UK, where we could do with some rain for the garden! Sent from my iPad On 16 Jun 2015, at 10:11, AGlez antje.gonza...@gmail.com wrote: I imagine that you mean that the thread can break while working with it... Or can it also happen that it breaks after you have made the lace, once you are using it? I had never thought of this before until Pene asked. It has never happened to me... Do you think it can depend on the type of thread you use? Some are more resistant than others... Best wishes from a curious lacemaker from Spain -- Antje González www.vueltaycruz.es - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Question about beads
I'm interested in hearing from anyone that has had the experience of beads cutting the thread in their lace. Please tell: What size type of beads were being used? And what size type of thread was being used? Thanks, Penelope An Aussie lacemaker in Tartu, Estonia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Question about beads
I would agree with Kathleen here. Bugle beads or beads with chips should be avoided at almost all costs when you are making anything involving beads. The only way to get around the challenge with bugle beads is to put a seed bead at either end of the bugle bead. Then the thread isn't rubbing on the edge of the bugle bead!! Sue in East Yorkshire where it's sunny'ish at the moment!! On 15 Jun 2015, at 10:33, Kathleen Harris wrote: I have not used beads in my lace very often, but I find that bugle beads - the long slim ones - often cut the thread when I am beading! And that is nylon beading thread. I think that bugle beads are cut from a tube and, unless they are very good quality, have sharp edges. It doesn't seem to happen with other beads, which seem to be finished better. Of course you can get an occasional bead with a chip, but that is very rare. It is bugle beads which I tend to avoid, even in beading. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Question about beads
I have not used beads in my lace very often, but I find that bugle beads - the long slim ones - often cut the thread when I am beading! And that is nylon beading thread. I think that bugle beads are cut from a tube and, unless they are very good quality, have sharp edges. It doesn't seem to happen with other beads, which seem to be finished better. Of course you can get an occasional bead with a chip, but that is very rare. It is bugle beads which I tend to avoid, even in beading. Kathleen In sunny Berkshire, UK. -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of pene piip Sent: 15 June 2015 10:00 To: Arachne Arachne Subject: [lace] Question about beads I'm interested in hearing from anyone that has had the experience of beads cutting the thread in their lace. Please tell: What size type of beads were being used? And what size type of thread was being used? Thanks, Penelope An Aussie lacemaker in Tartu, Estonia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Question about beads
I used several times beads in my laces. In no case happened anything like cutting the thread or the finished lace. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Question about beads
As well as bugles, I was advised by a bead teacher that some of the round metal beads (not glass beads) can wear through thread. So I avoided trying them. Sue - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Fwd: [lace] Question about beads
BE CAREFUL when using Swarovski crystals, too...I always use seed beads on each opening any time I am working with thread. This might even be true of crystals from other countries, also. As I never use these, I cannot say. BarbE Begin forwarded message: From: Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com Date: June 15, 2015 at 8:03:34 AM CDT To: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Question about beads Reply-To: Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com As well as bugles, I was advised by a bead teacher that some of the round metal beads (not glass beads) can wear through thread. So I avoided trying them. Sue - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
