Request For Comments: blueprint around Ideastorm idea
Hi! I have been drafting a blueprint around Dell's Ideastorm idea. Considering that the current means to get user wishes feedback is not really good (see discussion in the blueprint) and considering Ideastorm success for Dell, i was thinking of using this idea to assess the user wishes. Right now, when a **normal** user want to post a wish about ubuntu, where does he go? (I emphasize the fact that I'm talking about normal users, not power users.) He goes to forums, where its posts is quickly lost in the mass. Or *if he know about it*, he goes to the bug report system(bug! Not obvious!) to post a wish. But this wish report hardly represent the size of the wish. Is only one person interested by this wish, or thousands? or more? Consequently there is no real means to assess *quantitatively* and *effectively* the users wishes and needs. Thus the main guidelines of ubuntu development does not optimally match the users demand. Considering this, my blueprint try to propose a solution based on Ideastorm idea, and reusing Launchpad framework. Here it is : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/launchpad/+spec/better-community-wishes-assessment I would really appreciate any comments on this, and you are welcome to do some modifications you think appropriate. Especially I'd like to hear from Launchpad guys about the feasibility, implementation of the spec. Thanks! Nicolas Deschildre -- launchpad-users mailing list launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users
Re: Re: That need to close bugs?
Hi! The WONTFIX is only available for Ubuntu QA members :-) Citando Christian Robottom Reis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 04:01:55AM -0500, Justin Dugger wrote: Firstly, I think it's a bit silly to be talking about WONTFIX when it's not a valid status I can find in Launchpad. Currently, WONTFIX Uhm, there actually is a Won't Fix status in Launchpad. I'm not sure where you looked! -- Christian Robottom Reis | http://async.com.br/~kiko/ | [+55 16] 3376 0125 -- launchpad-users mailing list launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users Sem mais de momento, Marco Rodrigues -- Portal Tondela Online www.Tondela.org -- launchpad-users mailing list launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users
Re: That need to close bugs?
On September 19, 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I think the new feature of LP 1.1.9 to automatically close bugs after 61 days, will be good to close most of non-important bugs. How about to introduce it also to Answers ? To get them expired... This is already implemented. Questions that remain for 15 days without new comments in the 'Open' or 'Needs info' are automatically set to 'Expired'. Cheers -- Francis J. Lacoste [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp2NeGN7BsEV.pgp Description: PGP signature -- launchpad-users mailing list launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users
Re: Re: That need to close bugs?
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 11:59:52AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about to introduce it also to Answers ? To get them expired... Well, Answers already offers this feature; it was actually the first place where we offered it. -- Christian Robottom Reis | http://async.com.br/~kiko/ | [+55 16] 3376 0125 -- launchpad-users mailing list launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users
Re: That need to close bugs?
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 04:01:55AM -0500, Justin Dugger wrote: Firstly, I think it's a bit silly to be talking about WONTFIX when it's not a valid status I can find in Launchpad. Currently, WONTFIX Uhm, there actually is a Won't Fix status in Launchpad. I'm not sure where you looked! -- Christian Robottom Reis | http://async.com.br/~kiko/ | [+55 16] 3376 0125 -- launchpad-users mailing list launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users
PPA TOS and license requirements
HI all, We really need clarify and nail down the acceptable licenses part of the PPA TOS and PPAQuickStart page. Right now the TOS has: You understand and agree that any content you upload to PPAs must be freely redistributable by Canonical, and licensed under any OSI approved license. http://opensource.org/licenses/category; The PPAQuickStart page has: An APT repository of up to 1 gigabyte for material licensed with an [WWW] OSI-approved licence. and further down in the FAQ Please do not publish packages in your PPA which are not redistributable (the basic requirement for packages in Ubuntu). Now, since the TOS is authoritative then the FAQ part of PPAQuickStart is not correct. Overall though, IMO, both statements (OSI approved and redistributable) are two extremes and neither are what is intended. The point was that the software should be Free/Libre/Open Source Software, unless I'm mistaken. The OSI approved license list doesn't include important licenses such as Creative Commons that *are* used in Ubuntu. The redistributable requirement says nothing towards Freeness. This could include redistributable closed-source applications such as you might find in the Multiverse repository. So, it's very important to have a clear and consistent license policy for PPAs. I'm pretty sure quite a few people have already violated the TOS based on the redistributable statement. -Jordan. -- launchpad-users mailing list launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users
Re: PPA TOS and license requirements
Good points. I'll take this one on. On 9/19/07, Jordan Mantha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI all, We really need clarify and nail down the acceptable licenses part of the PPA TOS and PPAQuickStart page. Right now the TOS has: You understand and agree that any content you upload to PPAs must be freely redistributable by Canonical, and licensed under any OSI approved license. http://opensource.org/licenses/category; The PPAQuickStart page has: An APT repository of up to 1 gigabyte for material licensed with an [WWW] OSI-approved licence. and further down in the FAQ Please do not publish packages in your PPA which are not redistributable (the basic requirement for packages in Ubuntu). Now, since the TOS is authoritative then the FAQ part of PPAQuickStart is not correct. Overall though, IMO, both statements (OSI approved and redistributable) are two extremes and neither are what is intended. The point was that the software should be Free/Libre/Open Source Software, unless I'm mistaken. The OSI approved license list doesn't include important licenses such as Creative Commons that *are* used in Ubuntu. The redistributable requirement says nothing towards Freeness. This could include redistributable closed-source applications such as you might find in the Multiverse repository. So, it's very important to have a clear and consistent license policy for PPAs. I'm pretty sure quite a few people have already violated the TOS based on the redistributable statement. -Jordan. -- launchpad-users mailing list launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users -- Office: +1-303-800-6609, Skype: happyhacking, IRC: Rinchen -- launchpad-users mailing list launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users
Re: Initial Launchpad feedback
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 08:40:46PM -0500, Anthony Yarusso wrote: 15:23 kiko tonyyarusso, dapper isn't supported. 15:24 mpt kiko, is that written anywhere (other than the logs of this IRC channel)? Embarassing! It wasn't written down because I was confused; we do support dapper. Tony, give your package upload another try and let's try and diagnose what the failure was. Sorry. -- Christian Robottom Reis | http://async.com.br/~kiko/ | [+55 16] 3376 0125 -- launchpad-users mailing list launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users