Re: Massive bug expiration spree

2007-09-27 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas

On Sep 25, 2007, at 1:46 AM, Curtis Hovey wrote:


I have taken 5 points from IRC and mail to refine bug expiration.
...
2. bugs with milestones are exempt.
   I agree we should not be setting anything to Invalid if there is
   a milestone--but do we often agree to fix issues by a certain time
   that we have not confirmed to be a bug? The affected bugs can be
   restored to Incomplete in production, but that doesn't sound right.
   Were these bugs supposed to be confirmed?


The only use case I can think of for an Incomplete bug being targeted 
to a milestone is where a release is delayed until an 
incompletely-reported security problem is either fixed or disproved: 
it's Incomplete, but targeted to the milestone so that it's not 
forgotten. But that's more likely to happen with releases, rather than 
milestones, and in any case, it wouldn't delay a release for more than 
60 days.



3. Bugs with any valid upstream bugtasks are exempt.
   I cannot fathom the reason for this rule? Is this right? I'm sure
   I have seen bugs that are Confirmed on one package, and Invalid
   in another. I think this rule implies that when, for instance,
   HAL has a known bug, do not expire the Incomplete HAL x.x in
   Ubuntu package. But shouldn't the latter package be Confirmed in
   this situation? Would it be simpler, safer, and saner to have a
   rule to only expire bugs that affect a single location?


If a bug report has enough information to be anything other than New or 
Incomplete in one context, it almost certainly has enough information 
to not be Incomplete in any context. I guess people using Incomplete 
in this case are likely using it to mean New, because they mean 
Unconfirmed and don't realize that New really means Unconfirmed.


I don't know whether that means such bug reports should be expired or 
not. I'd say yes, they should, just to be simpler.



...
5. bugs that have not had a reply are exempt.
   I agree with this. Is it common practice to set a bug to Incomplete
   Without asking the submitter for more information? I'm not certain
   every user of Launchpad understands the meaning of bug statues. If
   bugs are being set to Incomplete without a message, I wonder if we
   might want a definition of Incomplete in the email that goes out?
...


Good idea.

Cheers
--
Matthew Paul Thomas
http://mpt.net.nz/


PGP.sig
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
-- 
launchpad-users mailing list
launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users


Re: No comments input box when accepting/rejecting members

2007-09-27 Thread Matthew Revell
Hi Mariano,

On 27/09/2007, Mariano Mara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I checked Launchpad's bugs to see if this has been reported and couldn't
 find it. I'm still not sure to report this because maybe I'm wrong and
 I'm looking in the wrong place.

If there's something you're not sure about, please do post to the list.

 When a candidate wants to join a team, we (the group's administrators)
 get an email with a link to access Launchpad and then authorize or
 decline the request. We have a comments input box where we can leave
 some info for the applicant.
 However, if we access the proposed members place through the group page
 (e.g.: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ar/+members), when we click on
 their names, we access a page to accept/decline/hold their request but
 with no comments input box there. I consider this page should have the
 same input box described up supra.

Do you mean the bulk approve/reject page that you access by clicking
Approve or decline members? If you click the pencil icon beside the
candidate's name, you'll get a comment box along with the Approve
and Decline buttons.

Can I suggest you file a bug? In the bug report, explain why you feel
it would be beneficial to have an option to include a custom comment
when bulk approving and rejecting applications.

You can file the bug report at:

https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug

Thanks.

-- 
Matthew Revell
launchpad.net

mrevell in #launchpad on Freenode

-- 
launchpad-users mailing list
launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users


Announcing Coming Changes in Launchpad

2007-09-27 Thread Matthew Revell
Hello,

I'd like to get your input on how we (the Launchpad team) should
announce changes to Launchpad.

Right now, I post a Coming Changes notice here and to the blog, as
well as some other mailing lists. I'm working on a fuller process,
which will better handle how we highlight more important changes.

Please reply if you a request or suggestion for how we should flag up
changes to the way Launchpad works.

Thanks.

-- 
Matthew Revell
launchpad.net

mrevell in #launchpad on Freenode

-- 
launchpad-users mailing list
launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users


Re: Announcing Coming Changes in Launchpad

2007-09-27 Thread Christopher Armstrong
On 9/27/07, Matthew Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please reply if you a request or suggestion for how we should flag up
 changes to the way Launchpad works.

An announcement *in* the launchpad UI would be really excellent.
Google's applications do this subtly well. It's noticeable, but not
obstructing. In the upper right hand corner, where there is some
simple textual navigation, every now and then a New Features link
will appear in red (the rest of the navigation is blue). Clicking on
it will show information about recent and coming new features.

-- 
Christopher Armstrong
International Man of Twistery
http://radix.twistedmatrix.com/
http://twistedmatrix.com/
http://canonical.com/

-- 
launchpad-users mailing list
launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users


Re: Announcing Coming Changes in Launchpad

2007-09-27 Thread gothicx
Hi!

How about to show in our account some message / image saying New  
Release is Out centered before the Actions menu and linked to the  
article in the LP News ?

I personally is rare to check the frontpage of LP, I go directly to my  
account.


Sem mais de momento,
Marco Rodrigues
--
http://Marco.Tondela.org


Citando Matthew Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello,

 I'd like to get your input on how we (the Launchpad team) should
 announce changes to Launchpad.

 Right now, I post a Coming Changes notice here and to the blog, as
 well as some other mailing lists. I'm working on a fuller process,
 which will better handle how we highlight more important changes.

 Please reply if you a request or suggestion for how we should flag up
 changes to the way Launchpad works.

 Thanks.

 --
 Matthew Revell
 launchpad.net

 mrevell in #launchpad on Freenode

 --
 launchpad-users mailing list
 launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com
 Modify settings or unsubscribe at:  
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users



-- 
launchpad-users mailing list
launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users


Re: Announcing Coming Changes in Launchpad

2007-09-27 Thread Matthew Revell
On 27/09/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How about to show in our account some message / image saying New
 Release is Out centered before the Actions menu and linked to the
 article in the LP News ?

 I personally is rare to check the frontpage of LP, I go directly to my
 account.

Interesting. If we had an alert in the header, that was across all of
LP, that would make it visible to you even though you don't visit the
front page.

-- 
launchpad-users mailing list
launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users


Re: Announcing Coming Changes in Launchpad

2007-09-27 Thread gothicx
Hi! I agree with that, or like the Gmail does, in the top of screen..  
LP can put the text of New features linked to the artcile in News,  
before the Login information. After a week, it disappears...

Like this:

New Features - Logged in as  Marco Rodrigues - Log Out


Sem mais de momento,
Marco Rodrigues
--
http://Marco.Tondela.org


Citando Matthew Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 27/09/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How about to show in our account some message / image saying New
 Release is Out centered before the Actions menu and linked to the
 article in the LP News ?

 I personally is rare to check the frontpage of LP, I go directly to my
 account.

 Interesting. If we had an alert in the header, that was across all of
 LP, that would make it visible to you even though you don't visit the
 front page.




-- 
launchpad-users mailing list
launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users


Re: Announcing Coming Changes in Launchpad

2007-09-27 Thread Rafael Sachetto
I agree with this too. Very nice Idea :)

On 9/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi! I agree with that, or like the Gmail does, in the top of screen..
 LP can put the text of New features linked to the artcile in News,
 before the Login information. After a week, it disappears...

 Like this:

 New Features - Logged in as  Marco Rodrigues - Log Out


 Sem mais de momento,
 Marco Rodrigues
 --
 http://Marco.Tondela.org


 Citando Matthew Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  On 27/09/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  How about to show in our account some message / image saying New
  Release is Out centered before the Actions menu and linked to the
  article in the LP News ?
 
  I personally is rare to check the frontpage of LP, I go directly to my
  account.
 
  Interesting. If we had an alert in the header, that was across all of
  LP, that would make it visible to you even though you don't visit the
  front page.
 



 --
 launchpad-users mailing list
 launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com
 Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users




-- 
Rafael Sachetto Oliveira

Sir - Simple Image Resizer
http://rsachetto.googlepages.com
-- 
launchpad-users mailing list
launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users


[no subject]

2007-09-27 Thread Vishal Gaurav
Hi,
Good and best idea

Thanks,
Vishal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-- 
Vishal Gaurav
-- 
launchpad-users mailing list
launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users


Re: Massive bug expiration spree (Restoring all bugs to their previous status)

2007-09-27 Thread Curtis Hovey
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 21:19 +0200, Stefan Potyra wrote:
 Hi Curtis,
 
 (now writing from my home account, in case you're wondering)
 
 Am Mittwoch 26 September 2007 01:54:38 schrieb Curtis Hovey:
  On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 10:49 +0200, Stefan Potyra wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Am Dienstag, 25. September 2007 03:29 schrieb Curtis Hovey:
We plan to restore all bugs marked as Invalid by the Launchpad Janitor
back to their previous status of Incomplete. We will also be removing
the message that the Launchpad Janitor left in the comments.
  
   Please don't remove any janitor comments, just add new ones stating that
   the bug status will get restored. Otherwise it will look as if bug states
   change at random and comments appear and disappear by random as well.
 
  Hi stefan: Since my script to correct this is still in review, I'll look
  into this. Generally, adding another comment will result in another
  mailing. I'm not sure so many people would appreciate another round of
  emails from Launchpad Janitor so soon, so I'll look into what I can do
  to update the comments.
 
 Not too sure if that's true. From my perspective as a user (which I'm often 
 enough when filing bugs) I guess I definitely would like another mail being 
 informed that my bug was closed on accident. As a developer, who's currently 
 pretty lazy and isn't subscribed to too many bugs, I'd likewise like a 
 comment so that I can check if everything went fine now. Not too sure if this 
 applies to people being subscribed to a large number of bugs equally, like 
 busy devs or people from bugsquad.

I agree an email needs to go out to everyone explaining what happened
and exactly when this will be fixed. Using the Launchpad Janitor (which
can send out the emails) to fix this requires a lot of time compared to
the simple and fast effort to fixing corrupted data. I also want to
avoid an avalanche of email going out to each person.

I prefer that an announcement is made to several lists explaining that
all bugs that users have not corrected by hand will be restored be at
xx:xx UTC.

-- 
__Curtis C. Hovey_
http://launchpad.net/


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
-- 
launchpad-users mailing list
launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users