Re: [leaf-devel] 6.0.0-beta

2016-07-29 Thread Erich Titl

Hi Andrew

Am 29.07.2016 um 11:02 schrieb Andrew:

28.07.2016 19:31ers, kp kirchdoerfer пишет:

Hi Andrew;

Am Donnerstag, 28. Juli 2016, 12:24:58 schrieb Andrew:

Hi.

I think that we should move root, config and maybe some other 'core'
packages to initrd - to make it possible to run on tiny systems with
small amount of RAM and available persistent ROM for permanently mounted
initrd (like SOHO routers).

Looks almost like a packaging task, or am I wrong?

Yes, it's mostly packages reorganization. Simple, but very important
step. Other step - use r/o squash + r/w tmpfs over the top on it if
kernel option is specified - slightly harder, but harmless and may be
done even after first beta.

Maybe we even should move iptables here too - IMHO in 95% use cases
iptables is used.


I agree that iptables is often used, bt treating it differently from the 
other stuff is IMHO just wrong.


cheers

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Re: [leaf-devel] 6.0.0-beta

2016-07-28 Thread kp kirchdoerfer
Hi Andrew;

Am Donnerstag, 28. Juli 2016, 12:24:58 schrieb Andrew:
> Hi.
> 
> I think that we should move root, config and maybe some other 'core'
> packages to initrd - to make it possible to run on tiny systems with
> small amount of RAM and available persistent ROM for permanently mounted
> initrd (like SOHO routers).

Looks almost like a packaging task, or am I wrong?
Do you expect space savings or just simplification?

I think the most important task for very small platforms is to get rid of 
modules.sqfs.
E.g. the modules for rpi kernel is still 4.9MB, and of course it can be 
reduced nect to zero, if decisions are made what devices will be supoorted and  
what not - though rpi is still an somewhat open platform and with enough space 
on the CF and RAM, so I'm not bothered too much; but for closed SOHO routers 
this won't be acceptable. 

Not shure if we should add it to 6.0.0 (for a beta), but if we do make steps 
forward it could be at least for 6.1.0, which could be targeted until end of 
year if things goes well. 
Will you try in a new branch??


For 6.0.0 an issue with perf needs to be solved, may I ask you to have a look 
at it first?
 
> Also, on beta release we should also freeze uClibc-ng version for this
> branch.

Agreed.

kp

> 27.07.2016 20:03, kp kirchdoerfer пишет:
> > Hi all;
> > 
> > I've comitted changes to support the linux 4.4.x kernel for raspberry pi
> > boards rev 1.
> > While the raspberry pi 1 was mainly a proof-of-concept, we now support all
> > the platforms that we did with 5.2.x.
> > With the changes for rpi rev 1, we do have an example how to support
> > booting architectures depending on device trees (and overlays) - though
> > it shurely can be improved.
> > 
> > Done that it, I think we are on the way to a first beta version for 6.0.0.
> > Therefor I'd like to pint you to some errors during a complete build amd
> > packaging of the sources in git.
> > 
> > There aren't many, but
> > 
> > perf  fails to build
> > initmod fails to build (no surprise, as we do not need initmod anymore)
> > ... maybe i forgot one more?
> > 
> > 
> > Any help to fix that errors are welcome.
> > 
> > Any ideas what should be accomplished before moving forward to a first
> > beta?
> > 
> > regards kp
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