[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156907] Writer on Mac confuses users when opening a document from a readonly location

2023-10-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156907

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Summary|Writer on Mac confuses  |Writer on Mac confuses
   |users when opening a|users when opening a
   |document from a readonly|document from a readonly
   |location.   |location


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108882
[Bug 108882] [META] Read-only bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156907] Writer on Mac confuses users when opening a document from a readonly location.

2023-09-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The attachment is stored in /private/var/folders/mp/wdyz.../T/pid-8331/ (check
with SaveAs). I get the read-only infobar, and saving the document a second
time amends the file name (Untitled 1-1.odt). So everything works as expected
here.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156907] Writer on Mac confuses users when opening a document from a readonly location.

2023-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from steve  ---
> No. You normally CAN edit such a document, just not save it to the original 
> location. You even can edit WITH this bug, but die dialogue tells you you 
> can't.

You are absolutely correct. I reproduce by emailing a writer document to myself
and confirm all your repro steps → new.

If all this works without showing 2 warning dialogs on windows, there is a
discrepancy which should be resolved: either warnings on windows that should be
shown are not shown or on macOS errors that should not be shown are shown →
needsUXEval.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156907] Writer on Mac confuses users when opening a document from a readonly location.

2023-09-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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2023-09-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from t...@kanuschule.ch ---
(In reply to steve from comment #3)
> Isn't this expected? Files opened from mail app can not be edited. if you
> want to edit an attachment, save it do disk first.

No.You normally CAN edit such a document, just not save it to the original
location. You even can edit WITH this bug, but die dialogue tells you you
can't... 
see description above.

(In reply to Stéphane Guillou (stragu) from comment #2)
> Can you please share your full version info
Version: 7.6.0.3 (AARCH64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 69edd8b8ebc41d00b4de3915dc82f8f0fc3b6265
CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X 13.4.1; UI render: Skia/Metal; VCL: osx
Locale: de-CH (de_CH.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

(In reply to steve from comment #3)
> I could not reproduce
What exactly is the behaviour for you?

It also changed for me. I am not aware of any updates to LS or macOS on that
machine, 
but the behaviour is improved:
Now, when clicking the EDIT Button in the blue ribbon, a confirmation dialogue
opens, saying sth. like "You can't edit this doc. lacking write permission, do
you want to open a copy?"
So, the main issue is resolved, but the confusing dialogue upon opening
persists.
I still prefer the way things happen on Windows, where you don't get neither
the Dialogue upon opening, nor the one when switching to Edit-Mode.
Sure, these dialogues make it clearer to the user what's actually happening in
the background.
But i think the potential to confuse users and/or interrupt their workflow is
not worth it.
Yes, without any dialogues, some users might get confused if after an edit they
can't save the doc. to the original location.
Maybe, a good compromise would be to remove the dialogue on opening and keep
the one on switching to Edit-mode.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156907] Writer on Mac confuses users when opening a document from a readonly location.

2023-09-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from steve  ---
Isn't this expected? Files opened from mail app can not be edited. if you want
to edit an attachment, save it do disk first.

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2023-09-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 
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This is very much related to bug 128526. But as that one is about write
permissions, and this one about the Read Only infobar not giving the expected
result, let's keep both open.

However, I could not reproduce with:

Version: 24.2.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: d88779fc86385dde1215fd28b78a69eacc6b4f97
CPU threads: 2; OS: Mac OS X 13.2.1; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: osx
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI: en-US

Nor with 7.5.4.

I use Ventura 13.2.1.

Can you please share your full version info for macOS and for LO copied from
LibreOffice > About LibreOffice?
Thank you!

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156907] Writer on Mac confuses users when opening a document from a readonly location.

2023-08-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from t...@kanuschule.ch ---
Created attachment 189141
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