Re: getting paid for an include (I offer)

2017-12-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG 

>>> I would like to use the keyboard TAB
>>> (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabulatur) as alternative to "normal"
>>> notation.
>>
>> Which one?  There are so many tablutures.  Please give an example
>> (i.e., the `normal' notation and the tablature version).
>
> Excuse me, the New German Tabulatur is my topic.
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabulatur#Neue_deutsche_Orgeltabulatur

OK.  Lilypond doesn't support this.  What *could* be used as a
starting point is (external) support for jianpu; cf. the thread
starting with

  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-08/msg00395.html

For proper rendering you have to create a special Fraktur font that
contains letters with `Niederstriche' to indicate an upward alteration
by a semitone, together with the other special symbols used in the
Neue Deutsche Orgeltabulatur – AFAICS this is not covered by SMUFL.

  https://w3c.github.io/smufl/gitbook/

Unfortunately, I can't help further.


Werner
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Re: Lining up the word "subito"

2017-12-23 Thread Ivan Kuznetsov 
On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Malte Meyn  wrote:
>% this decreases the vertical space between sub. and p
>\override #'(baseline-skip . 1.5)

Overriding the default spacing will be  very useful.
Thank  you for demonstrating this to me.
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Re: Lining up the word "subito"

2017-12-23 Thread Ivan Kuznetsov 
On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 3:10 AM, Andrew Bernard 
wrote:

>> Can't you just use the \column command of \markup to have two
lines? Refer to the Notation Reference (NR). <<

And that is exactly what I wanted to do.  I do read the documentation
but sometimes, things do not leap out at me.



>> Also, with respect, when asking for help on the list people
usually provide an MWE, a minimum working example. ... <<

Your statements here perplexed me as I did provide a working
example, though finally, I suspect that you found my
example two long, was that it?  Well, I wanted to give context,
and it was not too long to copy, paste, and run.

Thank you for your response.
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Re: getting paid for an include (I offer)

2017-12-23 Thread Ali Cuota 
Hallo Werner,

Excuse me, the New German Tabulatur is my topic.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabulatur#Neue_deutsche_Orgeltabulatur

Danke

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2017-12-23 14:30 GMT-05:00, Werner LEMBERG :
>
>> I would like to use the keyboard TAB
>> (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabulatur) as alternative to "normal"
>> notation.
>
> Which one?  There are so many tablutures.  Please give an example
> (i.e., the `normal' notation and the tablature version).
>
>
> Werner
>

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Re: getting paid for an include (I offer)

2017-12-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG 

> I would like to use the keyboard TAB
> (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabulatur) as alternative to "normal"
> notation.

Which one?  There are so many tablutures.  Please give an example
(i.e., the `normal' notation and the tablature version).


Werner

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edition-editor usage

2017-12-23 Thread Mason Hock 
I have a piece in which each performer reads from a version of the score 
with their staff full-sized with the other parts on small staves. This 
pieces also requires a lot of manual tweaking of slurs.


I've been using \shapeII for the slurs, which works great, except that 
if I shape the slur correctly for the full-sized version of the part it 
is shaped incorrectly for the small version of the part and vice versa. 
In order for the slurs to look good in both situations I need two sets 
of \shapeII tweaks.


edition-editor looks like a promising solution, but I'm having trouble 
learning how to use it. The only documentation I can find is the usage 
examples here.


https://github.com/openlilylib/edition-engraver/tree/master/usage-examples

Each example is very specific, which makes it difficult to decode how 
edition-engraver works in general. I guess my questions are


(1) Will edition-engraver work for tweaking slurs with \shapeII?

(2) If so, what should be my approach in terms of organization? My guess 
would be to have 8 editions, a full-size version and small version for 
each of the 4 staves, where each pdf uses 1 full-size edition and 3 
small editions.


(3) How do I make certain 'editions' (at this point I'm questioning 
whether I'm using that term correctly) apply to certain staves in each pdf?


(4) What is the basic syntax for using edition-editor? It's difficult to 
tell from the examples in the repo what is the basic syntax and what is 
extending it.


Thanks to anyone who can clarify.

Mason


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getting paid for an include (I offer)

2017-12-23 Thread Ali Cuota 
Dear lilyponders,

I have very very basic notions about programming and cant do what I
really want, so I come to you all to ask for (paid) help.

I would like to use the keyboard TAB (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabulatur)
as alternative to "normal" notation.

My idea is to pass normal *.ly files to get the output as
new-german-TAB, even if the ly-file has to be slightly modified (or having an
error-messages-management in the "newGermanTab" files that ignores the
irrelevant parts of the file.ly)

Does somebody be interested in programming this file for money (or
even free of course)?

I had this post in the devel-list, maybe it is better here?!?

Thanks in advance,

Francois

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Re: Next round on frescobaldi dependencies

2017-12-23 Thread Simon Albrecht 
Am 23-Dec-2017 15:49:11 +0100 schrieb noeck.marb...@gmx.de: 
Out of curiosity: Did anyone writing here at least try the fix that I
 posted here twice which worked for me?

 I.e. installing python3-poppler-qt5_0.24.2-3build1_amd64.deb? Maybe I didn't - 
it would hardly be surprising if I had overlooked specifying python_3_ in one 
of the many places. So - now I tried. I take it getting the file from 
https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/python3-poppler-qt5/download is 
correct? The package linked there has "1build1" in its filename instead of 
3build1 - does that make any difference? Then - how to actually install that?   
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt install python3-poppler-qt5
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree 
Reading state information... Done
python3-poppler-qt5 is already the newest version (0.24.2-1build1).
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 python3-poppler-qt5 : Depends: sip-py3api-11.2 but it is not installable
 Depends: libpoppler-qt5-1 (>= 0.24.5) but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: python3-pyqt5 but it is not installable
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a 
solution).
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree 
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
 python3-poppler-qt5
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 307 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 429 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.   Best, Simon
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Re: (modified) Ben Johnston tuning system script

2017-12-23 Thread Urs Liska 
Hi Hans,

please ping me if I don't get back to you after getting home.

Urs


Am 23. Dezember 2017 16:33:49 MEZ schrieb All Fifths Tuning 
:
>Dear fellow Lilypond-users,
>
>
>I would like to write music in just intonation.
>
>I would like to make a script similar to the (great!) Sagittal script
>of 
>Graham Breed (http://x31eq.com/lilypond/) but for the so called Ben 
>Johnston tuning system (BJTS) (I've noticed there was some discussion 
>about it a while ago).
>
>The BJTS identifies every just interval as a discrete note, so there is
>
>not one the same.
>
>I use the so called Pythagorean scale as my basenotes (here I differ 
>from the original tuning system) C - D - E - F - G - A - B. These 
>basenotes are raised or lowered with all sorts of comma's and chroma's 
>to represent the appropriate pitch.
>
>This means that every ratio corresponds with a specific note name.
>
>I've reworked a linux based tuner to accommodate the BJTS 
>(https://github.com/brummer10/gxtuner), there I "calculate" every 
>notename from the ratio.
>
>
>I would like to gather some advice about how I could create a script
>for 
>Lilypond.
>
>Is it possible anyway?
>
>What would be a good route to follow?
>
>For example I could make a list of intervals with corresponding 
>notenames or I can make notename "calculator".
>
>Are there tutorials for scripting with Lilypond?
>
>
>I'll be happy to spend some time on this subject, so I don't mind a 
>(steep) learning curve.
>
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>
>Kind regards,
>
>
>Hans
>
>
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(modified) Ben Johnston tuning system script

2017-12-23 Thread All Fifths Tuning 

Dear fellow Lilypond-users,


I would like to write music in just intonation.

I would like to make a script similar to the (great!) Sagittal script of 
Graham Breed (http://x31eq.com/lilypond/) but for the so called Ben 
Johnston tuning system (BJTS) (I've noticed there was some discussion 
about it a while ago).


The BJTS identifies every just interval as a discrete note, so there is 
not one the same.


I use the so called Pythagorean scale as my basenotes (here I differ 
from the original tuning system) C - D - E - F - G - A - B. These 
basenotes are raised or lowered with all sorts of comma's and chroma's 
to represent the appropriate pitch.


This means that every ratio corresponds with a specific note name.

I've reworked a linux based tuner to accommodate the BJTS 
(https://github.com/brummer10/gxtuner), there I "calculate" every 
notename from the ratio.



I would like to gather some advice about how I could create a script for 
Lilypond.


Is it possible anyway?

What would be a good route to follow?

For example I could make a list of intervals with corresponding 
notenames or I can make notename "calculator".


Are there tutorials for scripting with Lilypond?


I'll be happy to spend some time on this subject, so I don't mind a 
(steep) learning curve.



Thanks in advance!


Kind regards,


Hans



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Re: Next round on frescobaldi dependencies

2017-12-23 Thread bb 

Am 23.12.2017 um 15:48 schrieb Noeck
> Out of curiosity: Did anyone writing here at least try the fix that I
> posted here twice which worked for me?
>
> I.e. installing python3-poppler-qt5_0.24.2-3build1_amd64.deb?
>
>
> Joram
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From:     Noeck
Subject:     Re: Python dependencies: plea for help
Date:     Fri, 8 Dec 2017 23:44:26 +0100
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>
> on which system? And do you need to build it or can you use a deb package?
>
> As discussed on Sept 23rd on this list [1], I used this package
> python3-poppler-qt5_0.24.2-3build1_amd64.deb on my Ubuntu machine. And
> Jamie found out where it came from:
>
> > This one worked for me: 
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/~canonical-foundations/+archive/ubuntu/python3.6-as-default/+files/python3-poppler-qt5_0.24.2-3build1_amd64.deb
>
> Does that solve your proplem?
>
> Cheers,
> Joram
I remeber that post, but that link did not help but guided me into a
sip-problem
sip-py3api-11.3

regards



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Re: Next round on frescobaldi dependencies

2017-12-23 Thread Noeck 
Out of curiosity: Did anyone writing here at least try the fix that I
posted here twice which worked for me?

I.e. installing python3-poppler-qt5_0.24.2-3build1_amd64.deb?


Joram

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Re: Next round on frescobaldi dependencies

2017-12-23 Thread bb 
As I remarked, I could not install frescobaldi 3.0 on ubuntu version 17
(as I remember that is true for 16 as well).
I had success with ubuntu 18.2 brands (and higher). I sent some mails to
frescobaldi and the lilypond list. i.e see lilypond list from 09.12.2017
10:21.
As I can reconstruct out of that, the crucial program was
python3-poppler-qt5
and I posted "the error message popplerqt5 is misleading as
python3-poppler-qt5 is needed".
As i think to remember that was not offered in the repository older than
ubuntu version 18? (Cannot check that, do actually not have any version
older than 18.2 runing. May be it was aded in the meantime?) 


In my posting mentioned above I reported a frescobaldi crash  in using
the template function of the menu, a problem with PyQt5.QtSvg. After
some distro updates this is not longer true! A positive message!

regards



Am 23.12.2017 um 15:07 schrieb bb:
> As I mailed frequently to frescobaldi and to the lilypond mail list it
> was/is definitely impossible for me to get frescobaldi 3.0 to work
> with any ubuntu 17 version and any linux brand based on ubuntu 17! I
> tried to install frescobaldi 3.0 multiple times on that version(s),
> especially following some large updates - without success and gave up
> at least.
>
> I work with different linuxes since about 40 years and was a fluent
> programmer in my active live. I recommend(ed) frescobaldi to make the
> error messages more specific to tell the user which version (2,3,4 or
> 9.5 or whatever) of something is needed. The python install file of
> frescobaldi knows (hopefully), which version of s
> omething is missing.
>
> I got running frescobaldi on version 18 up and do not longer use any
> ubuntu 17 based version or brand. I erased ubuntu studio (I think
> based on ubuntu 17.04?). Eventually I give a new release of ubunto
> studio based on an ubuntu 18 another try. Anybody can setup and
> install the required programs of ubuntu studio by hand to any linux
> version.
>
> I recommand anybody not to waste any time with ubuntu 17 and
> frescobaldi 3.0. The frescobaldi version in the distribution
> repository  of 17 (I think 2.20.0?) is working without any problem.
>
> Regards
>
> Am 23.12.2017 um 03:29 schrieb Simon Albrecht:
>> Hello everybody,
>>  
>> just to let you know: After gathering from the recent thread that the
>> situation with frescobaldi dependencies and conflicting versions of
>> python would be easier to handle with Ubuntu 17, I tried getting it
>> to work on a pristine 17.10 live system – unsucessfully, with another
>> weird bug (?) preventing to build sip from source. Here’s all the
>> details:
>> https://github.com/wbsoft/python-poppler-qt5/issues/14#issuecomment-353697574
>> 
>>  
>> Best, Simon
>>
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Re: Next round on frescobaldi dependencies

2017-12-23 Thread bb 
As I mailed frequently to frescobaldi and to the lilypond mail list it
was/is definitely impossible for me to get frescobaldi 3.0 to work with
any ubuntu 17 version and any linux brand based on ubuntu 17! I tried to
install frescobaldi 3.0 multiple times on that version(s), especially
following some large updates - without success and gave up at least.

I work with different linuxes since about 40 years and was a fluent
programmer in my active live. I recommend(ed) frescobaldi to make the
error messages more specific to tell the user which version (2,3,4 or
9.5 or whatever) of something is needed. The python install file of
frescobaldi knows (hopefully), which version of s
omething is missing.

I got running frescobaldi on version 18 up and do not longer use any
ubuntu 17 based version or brand. I erased ubuntu studio (I think based
on ubuntu 17.04?). Eventually I give a new release of ubunto studio
based on an ubuntu 18 another try. Anybody can setup and install the
required programs of ubuntu studio by hand to any linux version.

I recommand anybody not to waste any time with ubuntu 17 and frescobaldi
3.0. The frescobaldi version in the distribution repository  of 17 (I
think 2.20.0?) is working without any problem.

Regards

Am 23.12.2017 um 03:29 schrieb Simon Albrecht:
> Hello everybody,
>  
> just to let you know: After gathering from the recent thread that the
> situation with frescobaldi dependencies and conflicting versions of
> python would be easier to handle with Ubuntu 17, I tried getting it to
> work on a pristine 17.10 live system – unsucessfully, with another
> weird bug (?) preventing to build sip from source. Here’s all the
> details:
> https://github.com/wbsoft/python-poppler-qt5/issues/14#issuecomment-353697574
> 
>  
> Best, Simon
>
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Re: Reduce PianoStaves for rest

2017-12-23 Thread Helge Kruse 
Am 21.12.2017 um 23:19 schrieb David Kastrup:
> Easier to just use
> 
> \new GrandStaff << ... >>
> 
> The only difference is the Keep_alive_together_engraver if I remember
> correctly.

Yes, this works great. I never realized what actually is the difference
between the combined Staff types, except the obvious visual appearance.

The difference is described here, but I failed to find it.
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/internals/pianostaff

Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
Helge


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Re: Lining up the word "subito"

2017-12-23 Thread Malte Meyn 



Am 23.12.2017 um 10:17 schrieb Malte Meyn:


\version "2.19.65"
\include "english.ly"


A small, slightly off-topic remark on these lines: Instead of \including 
the file english.ly the standard way of setting the note name language 
now (since version 2.14) is using the language command:


\language "english"

\including the file does exactly the same but the file is only there for 
backwards-compatibility (see 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/changes/).


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Re: Lining up the word "subito"

2017-12-23 Thread Malte Meyn 



Am 23.12.2017 um 10:10 schrieb Andrew Bernard:


Also, with respect, when asking for help on the list people usually 
provide an MWE, a minimum working example. For a case like this just a 
note or two would suffice. If you give an MWE it is a lot easier for 
people to help out, as they don't have to scan through large amounts of 
stuff that is irrelevant to the question in hand.


I agree. But it’s (almost) Christmas and I have nothing else to do, so 
here is a small (not really minimal, but this size would be ok IMO to 
show the spacing problem with downwards stems etc.) example which 
contains a possible solution. I aligned the p to the hairpin and put the 
sub. above. For understanding you can delete (or change the values of) 
the \override, \with-dimensions, \text, and \medium commands.


\version "2.19.65"
\include "english.ly"

subP =
#(make-dynamic-script
  #{
\markup
% this decreases the vertical space between sub. and p
\override #'(baseline-skip . 1.5)
% this changes the behaviour of the following line
\override #`(direction . ,UP)
% dir-column is used to align the p to the cresc. and put the sub. 
above

\dir-column {
   % this is already in \dynamic mode because of make-dynamic-script
  p
  % this makes the sub. take less horizontal space so that the
  % cresc. hairpin is extended left below the sub. to reach the p
  \with-dimensions #'(0 . 0.5) #'(0 . 1.5)
  % \text reverts \dynamic, \medium reverts \bold
  \text \medium "sub."
}
  #})

\relative {
  <<
{
  \tuplet 3/2 8 { bf16 d' f a,, cs' fs } r4
} \\ {
  bf,,8\subP\< a g4\f
}
  >>
}

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Re: Hammer-on and pull-off

2017-12-23 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic 
Hello Joram,

Good idea, after… all.

How about:

\version "2.19.80"

% Thanks to David Kastrup for the inspiration!
after =
#(define-music-function (t e m) (ly:duration? ly:music? ly:music?)
   #{
 \context Bottom <<
   #m
   { \skip $t <> -\tweak extra-spacing-width #empty-interval $e }
 >>
   #})


music = \relative {
  a2 \after 4 ^"P" c ( \after 4 ^"H" b ) ( c ) \glissando d1
}
<<
  \new Staff \with { \omit TextScript } \music
  \new TabStaff \with { \tabFullNotation } \music
>>





> Le 23 déc. 2017 à 09:54, Noeck  a écrit :
> 
> 
> 
> Am 23.12.2017 um 08:52 schrieb Jacques Menu Muzhic:
>> Going along you lines, the H and P can be centered between the two notes, 
>> see below.
> 
> Shifting by adding " " is not so nice, you are right. Your solution is
> more accurate but also much longer. Perhaps the often mentioned \after
> function could also help here. It would be ideal to position the text
> relative to the middle of the slur, but I don't know how to do that.
> 
> Every general solution would probably be best wrapped into variables or
> functions.
> 
> I would probably make the font a little bit smaller and I tend to use
> sans serif fonts for that.
> 
> Cheers,
> Joram


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Re: Lining up the word "subito"

2017-12-23 Thread Andrew Bernard 
Hello Ivan,

Can't you just use the \column command of \markup to have two lines? Refer
to the Notation Reference (NR).

Also, with respect, when asking for help on the list people usually provide
an MWE, a minimum working example. For a case like this just a note or two
would suffice. If you give an MWE it is a lot easier for people to help
out, as they don't have to scan through large amounts of stuff that is
irrelevant to the question in hand.

Andrew
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Re: Hammer-on and pull-off

2017-12-23 Thread Noeck 


Am 23.12.2017 um 08:52 schrieb Jacques Menu Muzhic:
> Going along you lines, the H and P can be centered between the two notes, see 
> below.

Shifting by adding " " is not so nice, you are right. Your solution is
more accurate but also much longer. Perhaps the often mentioned \after
function could also help here. It would be ideal to position the text
relative to the middle of the slur, but I don't know how to do that.

Every general solution would probably be best wrapped into variables or
functions.

I would probably make the font a little bit smaller and I tend to use
sans serif fonts for that.

Cheers,
Joram

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