Re: Can I disable kernel switching?
Little top posting here since i am not completely sure i understand what Shlomi wants to do but i think i have an idea. In 2.6, the kernel views network addresses as SYSTEM addresses thus, pings will never hit the drivers it will be done in the kernel. Here is an excerpt from LDD3: Unfortunately, this effect can't be accomplished through IP number assignments alone, because the kernel wouldn't send out a packet through interface A that was directed to its own interface B. Instead, it would use the loopback channel without passing through snull. To be able to establish a communication through the snull interfaces, the source and destination addresses need to be modified during data transmission. In other words, packets sent through one of the interfaces should be received by the other, but the receiver of the outgoing packet shouldn't be recognized as the local host. The same applies to the source address of received packets. To achieve this kind of hidden loopback, the snull interface toggles the least significant bit of the third octet of both the source and destination addresses; that is, it changes both the network number and the host number of class C IP numbers. The net effect is that packets sent to network A (connected to sn0, the first interface) appear on the sn1 interface as packets belonging to network B. I.e., go and write/modify a driver to do that or find a way to do that in the packet mid-flight. On Tuesday 13 March 2007 08:08, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Amos Shapira wrote: I'm still curious, though - will the Linux kernel in your situation go through the hassle to assemble and transmit Ethernet frames or will it notice that it's actually sending to its own address and just say sod it - I'll just copy the buffer in memory (which is what I half expect)? --Amos I haven't checked the kernel's code, but from what I know, Oron's solution will not work. I don't think there is a way to do what Shlomi is looking to do. The kernel views all IP addresses of all interfaces as his addresses. I know for a fact that, at least in the past, it would answer ARP requests destined for one of its interfaces, even if the request arrived on another interface. I don't remember at the moment for sure, but I think even the proxy arp would not affect this setting. One thing is for sure, though. If any kernel option will affect this case, it is proxy arp, and not IP forwarding. It's the layer 2 you wish to bypass, not the layer 3. One thing I would try is to send it to the broadcast address, rather than to the specific address for the other interface. This will, for sure, cause the packet to go out on the wire. You can disconnect the cable to find out whether it will also prevent the kernel from short-looping the packet. Shachar -- Regards, Tzahi. -- Tzahi Fadida Blog: http://tzahi.blogsite.org | Home Site: http://tzahi.webhop.info WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Leumit not working in Firefox
On 12/03/07, Constantine Shulyupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may start open letter at http://www.iglu.org.il/wiki/index.php/Main_Page to support browser friendly sites. That doe not sound very effective. And I do not want browser-friendly sites. I want valid HTML code. There is a difference. I also expect the doctor/nurse/receptionist to speak valid Hebrew (or something close enough to it that I can understand) when I visit the clinic. So why should I not expect valid HTML from the website? Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Leumit not working in Firefox
Hi, Today I had a meeting (work related) with people from Leumit and I notified them of this issue. They said it wasn't by design and they will fix it soon. Sometimes you just need to speak to the correct people, I guess :-) Alon. On 3/13/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/03/07, Constantine Shulyupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may start open letter at http://www.iglu.org.il/wiki/index.php/Main_Page to support browser friendly sites. That doe not sound very effective. And I do not want browser-friendly sites. I want valid HTML code. There is a difference. I also expect the doctor/nurse/receptionist to speak valid Hebrew (or something close enough to it that I can understand) when I visit the clinic. So why should I not expect valid HTML from the website? Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Leumit not working in Firefox
On 13/03/07, Game Wizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Today I had a meeting (work related) with people from Leumit and I notified them of this issue. They said it wasn't by design and they will fix it soon. Sometimes you just need to speak to the correct people, I guess :-) Alon. That was actually the response that I got a few months ago when I last contacted them about the problem. So soon is at least half a year, that I've been waiting. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/445/sepultura.html http://technology-sleuth.com/question/what_is_hdtv.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache behind firewall
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 01:52:51PM -0700, Valery Reznic wrote: --- Boaz Rymland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, it did thet trick. I just don't realized before, that 'ssh -R' create prot forwardind for everything, I was thinking it can be used just for ssh itself. Port forwarding simply does... port forwarding :-) , regardless of protocol used (above TCP level), HTTP in our case. Yes, I see it now. Before I expect this kind of functionality in protocol-neutral netcat or socat, but for some reason it's not there but in ssh. By the way, is ssh-client implement -R on it's own, or with cooperaion from sshd ? The functionality is depending on sshd. You also need to have needed right to connect to the needed ports (for port 80 you nee root). Boaz. Valery. A very powerful tool in your disposal, that's for sure. You can do magic or raise havoc(...) with it. Ummm. I have root on both A and B, so I got a simpler way to raise havoc :) Valery Boaz. Valery. Try with caution - I'm not 100% sure of the above. Boaz. Firewall allow only outgoing connection from A. Apache run on the box A. I'd like to do port forwarding (or something), so http://B... will work, accessing apache on box A. It's looks for me, that this HowTo describe how do port forwarding if you got incoming connection. But I haven't. Am I miss something ? Valery Peter Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache behind firewall
--- Boaz Rymland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 01:52:51PM -0700, Valery Reznic wrote: --- Boaz Rymland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, it did thet trick. I just don't realized before, that 'ssh -R' create prot forwardind for everything, I was thinking it can be used just for ssh itself. Port forwarding simply does... port forwarding :-) , regardless of protocol used (above TCP level), HTTP in our case. Yes, I see it now. Before I expect this kind of functionality in protocol-neutral netcat or socat, but for some reason it's not there but in ssh. By the way, is ssh-client implement -R on it's own, or with cooperaion from sshd ? The functionality is depending on sshd. You also need to have needed right to connect to the needed ports (for port 80 you nee root). Thanks. Valery. Boaz. Valery. A very powerful tool in your disposal, that's for sure. You can do magic or raise havoc(...) with it. Ummm. I have root on both A and B, so I got a simpler way to raise havoc :) Valery Boaz. Valery. Try with caution - I'm not 100% sure of the above. Boaz. Firewall allow only outgoing connection from A. Apache run on the box A. I'd like to do port forwarding (or something), so http://B... will work, accessing apache on box A. It's looks for me, that this HowTo describe how do port forwarding if you got incoming connection. But I haven't. Am I miss something ? Valery Peter Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: System stopped wotking with firefox
שלום פייסל,
חקרתי את הבעיה. אם בדף השער שלכם
https://e-services.clalit.org.il/login/main.aspx
מחליפים את הקריאות ל- openURL בהצבה פשוטה, למשל
span class=clickMenu
onclick=window.frames[0].location.href='../personallablist.aspx'
onmouseover='this.style.background=#00aaef'
onmouseout='this.style.background=#9cd7ff'תוצאות בדיקות מעבדה/span
במקום
span class=clickMenu
onclick=openURL('../personallablist.aspx','window.frames[0].location.href')
onmouseover='this.style.background=#00aaef'
onmouseout='this.style.background=#9cd7ff'תוצאות בדיקות מעבדה/span
התפריטים עובדים ב Firefox לגמרי בסדר. אינני חושב שזאת השקעה גדולה מידי,
במיוחד שעד לפני כמה שבועות היה הכל תקין. אני משתמש במחשב בו מותקנת מערכת
ההפעלה Linux, ואין ביכולתי לקנות מחשב נוסף רק לצורך גלישה באתר הכללית.
תודה, צבי
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, On 11/03/07 11:03:
שלום רב,
כדי לבחון אפשרות של מתן פתרונות לכלל הלקוחות, נושא התמיכה בדפדפנים
שונים באתר הכללית נמצא כל הזמן על סדר היום בשירותי בריאות כללית.
אכן, בשלב זה, אתר הכללית תומך רק בדפדפנים מסוג אינטרנט אקספלורר של
מיקרוסופט מגרסה 5.5 ומעלה.
מבדיקות תקופתיות שאנו עורכים על הרגלי הגלישה בישראל עולה כי כ-98% מכלל
הגולשים בישראל משתמשים בדפדפן מסוג אינטרנט אקספלורר (הנתונים על הרגלי
הגלישה בעולם, אגב, מראים כי 93.7% מהגולשים משתמשים בדפדפן זה).
כיוון ששירותי בריאות כללית הנה מלכר (מוסד ללא כוונת רווח), ופועלת
במסגרת מצומצמת מאוד של תקציבים, הוחלט בשלב זה שלא להקצות משאבים יקרים
לפיתוח ולתמיכה בדפדפנים נוספים, בעיקר בגלל הכמות הקטנה יחסית של גולשים
שמשתמשים בהם (גם במספרים אבסולוטיים).
בנוסף לאמור לעיל, הכללית אינה חוסכת במאמצים כדי למצוא פתרונות אמיתיים
ללקוחות אשר מכל סיבה שהיא אינם משתמשים בדפדפן אקספלורר. כפועל יוצא של
מאמצים אלה, ולאחר בדיקה ובחינה מקיפים, הכללית החלה לפתח את אתריה
בטכנולוגיית .NET טכנולוגיה זו אמורה לתת את הפתרון המתבקש עי כך שמה
שהגולש מקבל בסופו של דבר הוא HTML טהור היכול להיקרא עי כל סוגי הדפדפנים.
כמשתמש/ת בדפדפן מסוג Mozilla / FireFox, אנו תקווה שהפתרונות שאנו
מיישמים אכן יאפשרו לך ליהנות משירותי האינטרנט שאנו מציעים. אגב, פתרון
שרבים מלקוחותינו שאינם משתמשים באקספלורר באופן קבוע אימצו, הוא התקנת
האקספלורר והשימוש בו אך ורק למטרת הגלישה באתר הכללית.
בכבוד רב, פייסל
*צוות תמיכה כללית און ליין *
*טלפון**: **2700*** **שלוחה **3 **אחרי בחירת השפה*
*דואר אלקטרוני: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
נשמח לעזור 24 שעות ביממה החל מיום שבת 20:00 עד יום שישי 13:00
*From:* Zvi Har'El [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:10 AM
*To:* כללית און ליין
*Subject:* System stopped wotking with firefox
Your system stopped working with Firefox. After loggin in, the menu
which allows me to go, e.g., to תוצאות בדיקות מעבדה, stopped
functionning. It was fine until recently. Can you please fix it?
--
Dr. Zvi Har'El mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Department of Mathematics
tel:+972-54-4227607 icq:179294841Technion - Israel Institute of Technology
fax:+972-4-8293388 http://www.math.technion.ac.il/~rl/Haifa 32000, ISRAEL
If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all. -- Thumper (1942)
--
Dr. Zvi Har'El mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Department of Mathematics
tel:+972-54-4227607 icq:179294841Technion - Israel Institute of Technology
fax:+972-4-8293388 http://www.math.technion.ac.il/~rl/Haifa 32000, ISRAEL
If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all. -- Thumper (1942)
scheme compilation problem
Hello, I have a problem compiling mit scheme from sources. Has anybody seen this problem ? (there are 500+ hits on Google but no clear answer). thanks, Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mit scheme (-7.7.1) compilation bug
Error1: a typo in a source file (missing \n\ at end of line) in: src/microcode/pruxdld.c:79 Error2: Source compilation fails (linux i386 gcc-3.3.6) with: /utabmd.sh scheme: can't find a readable default for option -band. searched for file runtime.com in these directories: /usr/local/lib/mit-scheme Inconsistency detected. make[1]: *** [utabmd.bin] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/plp/download/scheme-7.7.1/src/microcode' make: *** [all] Error 2 Reason: utabmd.sh runs scheme with a nonexistant /usr/local/lib/mit-scheme runtime environment. The build fails for first-time builders and may succeed for people who have a working scheme and try to build the package. To confirm the bug, move /usr/local/lib/mit-scheme to /usr/local/lib/mit-scheme.moved and try to build. /usr/local/lib/mit-scheme does not exist at build time. any info is welcome, Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Leumit not working in Firefox
Clalit is not better. They used to work with Firefox, but recently their menus stopped functioning. Here is their answer to my complaint (note their suggestion to install explorer only to surf at the Clalit site): שלום רב, כדי לבחון אפשרות של מתן פתרונות לכלל הלקוחות, נושא התמיכה בדפדפנים שונים באתר הכללית נמצא כל הזמן על סדר היום בשירותי בריאות כללית. אכן, בשלב זה, אתר הכללית תומך רק בדפדפנים מסוג אינטרנט אקספלורר של מיקרוסופט מגרסה 5.5 ומעלה. מבדיקות תקופתיות שאנו עורכים על הרגלי הגלישה בישראל עולה כי כ-98% מכלל הגולשים בישראל משתמשים בדפדפן מסוג אינטרנט אקספלורר (הנתונים על הרגלי הגלישה בעולם, אגב, מראים כי 93.7% מהגולשים משתמשים בדפדפן זה). כיוון ששירותי בריאות כללית הנה מלכר (מוסד ללא כוונת רווח), ופועלת במסגרת מצומצמת מאוד של תקציבים, הוחלט בשלב זה שלא להקצות משאבים יקרים לפיתוח ולתמיכה בדפדפנים נוספים, בעיקר בגלל הכמות הקטנה יחסית של גולשים שמשתמשים בהם (גם במספרים אבסולוטיים). בנוסף לאמור לעיל, הכללית אינה חוסכת במאמצים כדי למצוא פתרונות אמיתיים ללקוחות אשר מכל סיבה שהיא אינם משתמשים בדפדפן אקספלורר. כפועל יוצא של מאמצים אלה, ולאחר בדיקה ובחינה מקיפים, הכללית החלה לפתח את אתריה בטכנולוגיית .NET טכנולוגיה זו אמורה לתת את הפתרון המתבקש עי כך שמה שהגולש מקבל בסופו של דבר הוא HTML טהור היכול להיקרא עי כל סוגי הדפדפנים. כמשתמש/ת בדפדפן מסוג Mozilla / FireFox, אנו תקווה שהפתרונות שאנו מיישמים אכן יאפשרו לך ליהנות משירותי האינטרנט שאנו מציעים. אגב, פתרון שרבים מלקוחותינו שאינם משתמשים באקספלורר באופן קבוע אימצו, הוא התקנת האקספלורר והשימוש בו אך ורק למטרת הגלישה באתר הכללית. בכבוד רב, פייסל *צוות תמיכה כללית און ליין * *טלפון**: **2700*** **שלוחה **3 **אחרי בחירת השפה* *דואר אלקטרוני: [EMAIL PROTECTED] נשמח לעזור 24 שעות ביממה החל מיום שבת 20:00 עד יום שישי 13:00 *From:* Zvi Har'El [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:10 AM *To:* כללית און ליין *Subject:* System stopped wotking with firefox Your system stopped working with Firefox. After loggin in, the menu which allows me to go, e.g., to תוצאות בדיקות מעבדה, stopped functionning. It was fine until recently. Can you please fix it? -- Dr. Zvi Har'El mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Department of Mathematics tel:+972-54-4227607 icq:179294841Technion - Israel Institute of Technology fax:+972-4-8293388 http://www.math.technion.ac.il/~rl/Haifa 32000, ISRAEL If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all. -- Thumper (1942) Dotan Cohen wrote, On 12/03/07 14:28: Please call Leumit (1-700-705-705) and complain that they are idiots, er no, that Leumit.co.il does not work in Firefox. Specifically, the login page for blood checks is all M$-specific Javascript and it is impossible to use with Firefox, Opera, Konqueror, etc. They require 500 NIS of software (MS operating system) to use their website. The excuse they gave me was that this is to comply with Misrad Habriut requirements of security. The only other way to get the blood results is to call to request a fax. They send a Ishur Vitur Sodiut, which we must fax back, and then they send the results. Which is a pain for those who HAVE fax machines at home. What about those without? Thanks, group. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Zvi Har'El mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Department of Mathematics tel:+972-54-4227607 icq:179294841Technion - Israel Institute of Technology fax:+972-4-8293388 http://www.math.technion.ac.il/~rl/Haifa 32000, ISRAEL If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all. -- Thumper (1942)
