Re: Hardware Recommendation
The following is my configuration which did not required any changes: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo T2350 1.86GHz Memory I upgraded to 2G (full capacity) Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) Other then that I don't think it makes a difference. Installation went smooth like a knife in dutch butter. I'm running emulated qemu machines developing and playing around with a lot of pleasure. (even eclipse runs in a fair quality) ASAF HALILI wrote: Hi, Ravid thanks for the info. I have a question, all of the hardware in the dell laptot works fine on linux out of the box or you did some recompile of the kernel, some configurations etc? thanks, asaf. On 7/18/07, Ravid Baruch Naali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Just recently, switched from ThinkPad R50e to Dell Inspiron 6400, for reason other then technicals. I enjoyed using my former one but even more the new one. The thing about the Inspiron 6400 is that it comes in many hardware configurations. Starting from CPU, hard disk, memory, graphical board etc... it even has the no OS option!!! I've installed Ubuntu Feisty Fawn (AKA kubuntu), and added any other feature I desired which went smoothly as can possibly be. My Laptop came with Vista which I was able to reduce it's partition size with no problems. Dell provide 3 years world wide warranty which fortunately I have no experience with. If there's a specific application or a test you wish that I'll conduct for you pleas let me know and I'd be more then happy to provide the information. Hope I can help Ravid Oded Arbel wrote: Hi All. I'm in the market for a new laptop, and I hope that people on the list can share their experience with current laptops, specifically in regards to Linux compatibility and reliability. I'm interested in spending less money, but still get a brand with good (preferably world-wide) support - otherwise I'd go with a good Thinkpad which I know from experience is a great product, so currently I'm looking at these brands: HP Pavillon Compaq Presario Dell (whatever - can't make heads or tails of their brand names) Also a couple related questions: - Did anyone have any success in getting a brand laptop in Israel without paying the MS-Windows tax ? - Did anyone manage to get a Dell with Ubuntu installed ? From talking to some Israeli sales reps that distribute Dell laptops I got mostly huh?!?s. Thanks in advance -- Oded = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ravid Baruch Naali [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03-7515563 (203) 052-5830021 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ravid Baruch Naali [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03-7515563 (203) 052-5830021 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reminder: Telux: Nadav Vinik on Firebug on 22-July-2007
Hi all! This is a reminder that the Tel Aviv Linux club (Telux) will gather again on Sunday, 22-July-2007 (Next Sunday) to hear Nadav Vinik talk about Firebug. The time is 18:30 and the place is Schreiber 008 (Computer Science building) in Tel Aviv University. More information can be found here: http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/ This is Nadav's first presentation to Telux, so, let's give him an enthusiastic welcome. The attendance is free and everyone are welcome to attend. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ Chuck Norris wrote a complete Perl 6 implementation in a day but then destroyed all evidence with his bare hands, so no one will know his secrets. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Walla in Firefox
On 19/07/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have access to this installation any more. As far as I remember Hebrew worked well. I plan to install it on my new desktop in the near future (to test a web site, hopefully in a matter of days). Will try to get back to you when I have an answer. Thanks. I won't have a chance to try it for at least another month. If I get around to it before you, then I'll post my results for the curious. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPG Keysigning party - AP 2007
Hello all, Like every year, this year we will also have a GPG Keysigning party, you are all invited. For those who are interested; - Make sure that you send your public GPG key (.asc file), your Key ID and the Key Fingerprint to [EMAIL PROTECTED] *before* 08/08/2007. - Make sure that you bring a copy of your Key fingerprint yourself and a pen, you will recieve a list of keys, UIDs and fingerprints there. - Bring any personal document that has your picture and name, for example, ID. - Make sure you come to August Penguin :-) For those who are new to GPG and are interested in participate, feel free to read: http://penguin.org.il/guides/gpg-intro/ (in hebrew) http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html (in english) For any questions on inconveniences, please feel free to contact me directly or on-list. Best regards to you all, shay = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intel Ham modem with 2.4.34 kernel
I have an Intel chipset Ham modem. I downloaded the latest drivers from the Intel site and installed them with a 2.4.22 kernel. It all worked fine. Now for other reasons, I had to upgrade to 2.4.34. The modules no longer install. When I install them, I get an error message that the modules do not exist. They do compile with no error messages. I even deleted the directory and reinstalled them from the tar file. If I create the directory they need to go into and copy them there by hand, a depmod -A tells me of unresolved symbols. Trying to use the modem them crashes the system. Any advice, besides get another modem? Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel Ham modem with 2.4.34 kernel
Umm, what chip is inside this modem? Thanks, Hetz On 7/19/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an Intel chipset Ham modem. I downloaded the latest drivers from the Intel site and installed them with a 2.4.22 kernel. It all worked fine. Now for other reasons, I had to upgrade to 2.4.34. The modules no longer install. When I install them, I get an error message that the modules do not exist. They do compile with no error messages. I even deleted the directory and reinstalled them from the tar file. If I create the directory they need to go into and copy them there by hand, a depmod -A tells me of unresolved symbols. Trying to use the modem them crashes the system. Any advice, besides get another modem? Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. Visit my blog (hebrew) for things that (sometimes) matter: http://wp.dad-answers.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel Ham modem with 2.4.34 kernel
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 02:11:57PM +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Umm, what chip is inside this modem? From lspci -v 00:0d.0 Communication controller: Ambient Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4000 (rev 02) Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 12 Memory at cfdf5000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] I/O ports at d400 [size=256] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel Ham modem with 2.4.34 kernel
This lspci output doesn't help me since it doesn't really tells me what chip (and model) is inside your modem. Looking at Intel web site, I see that they have Intel 536 and 537 models, and few others. If it's a PCI card, could you tell me whats the chip on the card? if it's PCMCIA, could you give the details whats printed on the card? if it's a USB, then what model/name does it have? if it's onboard, could you give the board name / laptop name+model? It's way easier to find drivers if you know that exact chip name/model :) Thanks, Hetz On 7/19/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 02:11:57PM +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Umm, what chip is inside this modem? From lspci -v 00:0d.0 Communication controller: Ambient Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4000 (rev 02) Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 12 Memory at cfdf5000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] I/O ports at d400 [size=256] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. Visit my blog (hebrew) for things that (sometimes) matter: http://wp.dad-answers.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SUMMARY] Current status of Israeli ISPs
[This is not really a reply to the previous message - I just wanted to keep the thread id] Update on Actcom status, specifically the tech support issue. I had to call Actcom tech support yesterday, complaining that my DSL connection doesn't work, eventually I found out that the issue was a hardware problem on my side (my girlfriend rewired the router incorrectly, connecting the internet port to an unused cable), but I didn't found it until after I finished with the support person. After he couldn't get my router to work by having me trying different settings, the support guy asked me to connect my computer directly to the modem - at which point he found out that I use a Linux desktop. Except for a couple of ahmm..s, a query about my choice of distribution and a recommendation to use Ubuntu, the support guy didn't seem fazed by my use of Linux. After setting up my Fedora 7 to dial up to DSL (which was a simple wizard I needed no help with) everything worked, at which point point the support guy asked for some specific details to document the incident (operating system type and version, router model and modem model). I didn't get specific help for Linux, mostly as I didn't need any, but the tech support didn't seem to have an issue with me using Linux, and seemed versed on the subject - at all times he was professional and helpful - which I can't really say about most tech support calls I've done over the years, but it was exactly the type of service I was used to getting under Actcom. I think I recall the guy's name from when I called tech support before Actcom was bought - so he might be from the original Actcom tech support team (I didn't ask). To sum, the tech support still operates behind Actcom's toll free number (which AFAIK is the only toll free internet support line in Israel), and still seems clueful about Linux. I don't know about the commercial side (my current contract expires on August, after which I'll be able to comment on the issue), but from the support side I have no complaints, and if the sales department don't mess up my contract renewal I will remain a customer of Actcom/Bezeq Beinleumi. -- Oded = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware Recommendation
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 10:14 +0300, Ravid Baruch Naali wrote: The following is my configuration which did not required any changes: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo T2350 1.86GHz Memory I upgraded to 2G (full capacity) Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) Other then that I don't think it makes a difference. What about (in decreasing order of importance) * wireless networking ? * sound support ? What type of chipset is the laptop using - in the past I had some issues with sound under MBs with ICH8, specifically low sound quality and the inability to turn off the speakers when attaching headphones. * Multimedia keys ? the Inspiron 6400 comes with quite a few of those (http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3089review=Dell +Inspiron+6400) * SD card reader ? * S-Video output ? -- Oded = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware Recommendation
Oded Arbel wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 10:14 +0300, Ravid Baruch Naali wrote: The following is my configuration which did not required any changes: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo T2350 1.86GHz Memory I upgraded to 2G (full capacity) Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) Other then that I don't think it makes a difference. What about (in decreasing order of importance) * wireless networking ? Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card Using it anywhere around the house. * sound support ? What type of chipset is the laptop using - in the past I had some issues with sound under MBs with ICH8, specifically low sound quality and the inability to turn off the speakers when attaching headphones. Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller Listening to music using skype. * Multimedia keys ? the Inspiron 6400 comes with quite a few of those (http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3089review=Dell +Inspiron+6400) Have them all never tried using them on Ubuntu * SD card reader ? Generic system peripheral [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter * S-Video output ? It's integrated in the display controller, also had no experience yet -- Ravid Baruch Naali [EMAIL PROTECTED] +972 4 6732729 +972 52 5830021 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware Recommendation
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 16:49 +0300, Ravid Baruch Naali wrote: What about (in decreasing order of importance) * wireless networking ? Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card Using it anywhere around the house. Did it work for you out of the box ? I use a broadcom based PCMCIA wireless card and I had to manually extract the firmware from the windows driver package in order to get it to work. * sound support ? What type of chipset is the laptop using - in the past I had some issues with sound under MBs with ICH8, specifically low sound quality and the inability to turn off the speakers when attaching headphones. Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller AFAIK new computers come with ICH8. I would love to hear some success stories from people who have ICH8 on their laptops and do not have sound problems. Listening to music using skype. Skype ?!? * Multimedia keys ? the Inspiron 6400 comes with quite a few of those (http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3089review=Dell +Inspiron+6400) Have them all never tried using them on Ubuntu Try to start the gnome shortcut manager, choose to edit some shortcut you don't care about and hit a multimedia key. If it is supported, you should see something in the shortcut column (possibly something like 0xea). If it doesn't work then you should see nothing changed. You'd need to click on the shortcut again, to enter edit mode, after each time it detects a key. I'd also be interested if you can check how the KDE shortcut manager likes your multimedia keys. * SD card reader ? Generic system peripheral [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter Did you try it ? I'm not interested in the specific model - just if it works. * S-Video output ? It's integrated in the display controller, also had no experience yet That's less important - just a nice to have. -- Oded = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SUMMARY] Current status of Israeli ISPs
Quoting Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To sum, the tech support still operates behind Actcom's toll free number (which AFAIK is the only toll free internet support line in Israel), and still seems clueful about Linux. I don't know about the commercial side (my current contract expires on August, after which I'll be able to comment on the issue), but from the support side I have no complaints, and if the sales department don't mess up my contract renewal I will remain a customer of Actcom/Bezeq Beinleumi. I got a message from Bezeq Intl. when I sent a message here at linux-il about this issue. In that message (which for some reason came from the Abuse team) they said that they have Linux support, although it may not be online. Herouth = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SUMMARY] Current status of Israeli ISPs
Oded Arbel wrote: [This is not really a reply to the previous message - I just wanted to keep the thread id] Update on Actcom status, specifically the tech support issue. I had to call Actcom tech support yesterday, complaining that my DSL connection doesn't work, eventually I found out that the issue was a hardware problem on my side (my girlfriend rewired the router incorrectly, connecting the internet port to an unused cable), but I didn't found it until after I finished with the support person. After he couldn't get my router to work by having me trying different settings, the support guy asked me to connect my computer directly to the modem - at which point he found out that I use a Linux desktop. Except for a couple of ahmm..s, a query about my choice of distribution and a recommendation to use Ubuntu, the support guy didn't seem fazed by my use of Linux. After setting up my Fedora 7 to dial up to DSL (which was a simple wizard I needed no help with) everything worked, at which point point the support guy asked for some specific details to document the incident (operating system type and version, router model and modem model). I didn't get specific help for Linux, mostly as I didn't need any, but the tech support didn't seem to have an issue with me using Linux, and seemed versed on the subject - at all times he was professional and helpful - which I can't really say about most tech support calls I've done over the years, but it was exactly the type of service I was used to getting under Actcom. I think I recall the guy's name from when I called tech support before Actcom was bought - so he might be from the original Actcom tech support team (I didn't ask). It could not be the original support, cause its gone. Most of services moved to PT, and support team ( as well as sales, custserv etc ... ) are no longer there ( Haifa ), except one guy at night which does not get phone calls from customers, but from Bezeqint's supporters who needs help with Actcom users and interfaces. They present themselves as Actcom, probably not to confuse customers, but some of them even cant pronounce the name correctly ( actom, actcome .. ). Anyway, its nice to hear that there are supporters at Bezeqint that will not fall from the chair when they will hear the /word/ Linux. 10x, Danny To sum, the tech support still operates behind Actcom's toll free number (which AFAIK is the only toll free internet support line in Israel), and still seems clueful about Linux. I don't know about the commercial side (my current contract expires on August, after which I'll be able to comment on the issue), but from the support side I have no complaints, and if the sales department don't mess up my contract renewal I will remain a customer of Actcom/Bezeq Beinleumi.
Re: Hardware Recommendation
On 20/07/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * sound support ? What type of chipset is the laptop using - in the past I had some issues with sound under MBs with ICH8, specifically low sound quality and the inability to turn off the speakers when attaching headphones. Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller AFAIK new computers come with ICH8. I would love to hear some success stories from people who have ICH8 on their laptops and do not have sound problems. My Dimension 520 desktop comes with an ICH8 and so far I haven't got around to investigate how to make sound work on Debian Etch. I just connected the audio cable to the new monitor and tried to play something and it didn't work. Here is what lspci -vvv gives on this device, the unknown device is a bit discouraging: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 01dd Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 169 Region 0: Memory at dffdc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: access denied Here is lsmod | grep snd: snd_hda_intel 23708 1 snd_hda_codec 184192 1 snd_hda_intel snd_pcm_oss48672 0 snd_mixer_oss 21888 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm89096 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 29192 1 snd_pcm snd65256 6 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 15392 2 snd snd_page_alloc 14864 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm ALSA's web site doesn't list ICH8 either: http://tinyurl.com/8hskq, which is VERY discouraging. On the other hand the alsa-users mailing list archive contains a message which claims that ALSA does support this chip: http://tinyurl.com/2hegbu Maybe I'll end up moving the Sound Blaster Live! from my old machine (which for some reason Windows XP refuses to work with). My usual first step in such situations is to try to boot latest Ubuntu live CD - if it recognizes the config then I copy it from there (that's how I got my X11 optimized a bit on my previous computer). Listening to music using skype. Skype ?!? Yes, sounds weird to me too. Skype was the only program which could deep-freeze my linux. I have to keep quiting and re-starting it after every call (whether it succeeded or failed) to avoid freezes. --Amos
Re: GPG Keysigning party - AP 2007
On 20/07/07, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yehoshua (shay) O'Hayon Suchar wrote: Hello all, Like every year, this year we will also have a GPG Keysigning party, you are all invited. For those who are interested; - Make sure that you send your public GPG key (.asc file), your Key ID and the Key Fingerprint to Out of curiosity, the fingerprint is contained in the ID, which is contained in the actual key. Do you really need all three? I didn't follow the original post (it's not relevant for me) but there are plenty of key signing party howto's, here is a page describing the method used in the LCA2007 Key Signing party: http://www.keysigning.org/methods/sassaman-projected (this entire site is built to help organize parties, maybe you want to use it for AP). There is some more possibly useful information in this page: http://lca2007.linux.org.au/KeySigning.html (this page also points to Ad-Hock signing procedures and CACert signing). --Amos
