Re: How to image a linux computer

[Michael Shiloh]

Thanks Shay

On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 3:56 PM Shay Gover  wrote:

> Use clonezilla.
> Before cloning:
> 1) Remove gpu drivers
> 2) Remove microcode package
> 3) You might need to change partition id or disk id in the bootloader.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 1:50 PM Michael Shiloh 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ori and Shimi; I've forwarded your suggestions to my friend.
>>
>> Your help is much appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 3:16 PM shimi  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 9:35 AM Michael Shiloh <
>>> michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Situation: We have a linux computer with various software installed on
>>>> old hardware that may malfunction and be unsupported. To mitigate this
>>>> risk, we would like to make an image of this machine so that we can run it
>>>> in a virtual machine.
>>>>
>>>> How do we do this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Beyond what has been suggested before me on this thread, you can also
>>> rescue-boot both the old and the new system that has a disk
>>> same-size-or-larger, and just bit-copy the hard drive as a whole (including
>>> partition table) over the network, without passing through an 'image'
>>> stage. You can either do so securely (but slower) over SSH, or in plaintext
>>> if your network is secure (using netcat). See:
>>> https://www.thegeekdiary.com/how-to-clone-linux-disk-partition-over-network-using-dd/
>>> .
>>>
>>> Note: The above tutorial suggests using compression when SSH is not
>>> involved (not sure why the difference in approaches), which you may wish to
>>> consider removing from the pipeline, especially if cloning over fast LAN -
>>> as there's a good chance that the compression, which /may/ not reduce the
>>> data volume transferred much (unless you're looking at lots of space that
>>> is filled with a static pattern like zeros) and the CPU may become the
>>> bottleneck instead of the network, and then, מה הועילו חכמים בתקנתם?
>>>
>>> DISCLAIMER: Make sure you understand what you do, so you'll not by
>>> mistake write TO the source disk from the target (or from nowhere...),
>>> overwriting all your data. :) I would say it wouldn't be a problem if you
>>> kept backups, but the original question suggests that one may not be
>>> available in this case... so, be careful. As a rule of thumb, the dd _of=_
>>> parameter on the _SOURCE_ should NEVER point to anything local, and quite
>>> frankly, should NEVER appear on the source altogether...
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> -- Shimi
>>>
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Re: How to image a linux computer

[Michael Shiloh]

Thanks Ori and Shimi; I've forwarded your suggestions to my friend.

Your help is much appreciated.



On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 3:16 PM shimi  wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 9:35 AM Michael Shiloh 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Situation: We have a linux computer with various software installed on
>> old hardware that may malfunction and be unsupported. To mitigate this
>> risk, we would like to make an image of this machine so that we can run it
>> in a virtual machine.
>>
>> How do we do this?
>>
>>
> Beyond what has been suggested before me on this thread, you can also
> rescue-boot both the old and the new system that has a disk
> same-size-or-larger, and just bit-copy the hard drive as a whole (including
> partition table) over the network, without passing through an 'image'
> stage. You can either do so securely (but slower) over SSH, or in plaintext
> if your network is secure (using netcat). See:
> https://www.thegeekdiary.com/how-to-clone-linux-disk-partition-over-network-using-dd/
> .
>
> Note: The above tutorial suggests using compression when SSH is not
> involved (not sure why the difference in approaches), which you may wish to
> consider removing from the pipeline, especially if cloning over fast LAN -
> as there's a good chance that the compression, which /may/ not reduce the
> data volume transferred much (unless you're looking at lots of space that
> is filled with a static pattern like zeros) and the CPU may become the
> bottleneck instead of the network, and then, מה הועילו חכמים בתקנתם?
>
> DISCLAIMER: Make sure you understand what you do, so you'll not by mistake
> write TO the source disk from the target (or from nowhere...), overwriting
> all your data. :) I would say it wouldn't be a problem if you kept backups,
> but the original question suggests that one may not be available in this
> case... so, be careful. As a rule of thumb, the dd _of=_ parameter on the
> _SOURCE_ should NEVER point to anything local, and quite frankly, should
> NEVER appear on the source altogether...
>
> HTH,
>
> -- Shimi
>
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Re: How to image a linux computer

[Michael Shiloh]

Thank you Shachar and Eli, these suggestions are very helpful.

On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 1:24 PM Eli Billauer  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> A somewhat different approach is to copy the entire filesystem into a
> new computer, and run the old operating system in parallel with the new
> one.
>
> I'm doing this myself, and this approach works surprisingly well:
>
> https://billauer.co.il/blog/2018/11/linux-chroot-system-in-parallel/
>
> And when I say that it works, I mean that some of the system's services
> still belong to the old OS. For example, the DHCP server on the machine
> that I write this mail on belongs to Fedora 12. Why? Because I never had
> a good reason to replace it with the current system's.
>
> The obvious advantage is that the transition to the new computer can be
> gradual. At some point, you'll just turn off the old computer because
> everything runs fine on the new one.
>
> So all you need is tar.
>
> The drawback that I can see with a full image of the old system (except
> for the obvious waste of disk space) is that the old kernel may not be
> compatible with the virtual machine. Which can be solved by installing a
> newer kernel. But then, why bother running a full virtual machine? You
> might as well use chroot. Which brings me back to my original suggestion.
>
> Regards,
> Eli
>
> On 04/11/2023 9:34, Michael Shiloh wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Situation: We have a linux computer with various software installed on
> > old hardware that may malfunction and be unsupported. To mitigate this
> > risk, we would like to make an image of this machine so that we can run
> > it in a virtual machine.
> >
> > How do we do this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Michael
>
>
>
> --
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How to image a linux computer

[Michael Shiloh]

Hello all,

Situation: We have a linux computer with various software installed on old
hardware that may malfunction and be unsupported. To mitigate this risk, we
would like to make an image of this machine so that we can run it in a
virtual machine.

How do we do this?

Thanks,
Michael
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Re: Good presentation tool

[Michael Shiloh]

Either way, that's super helpful! Thanks for bringing it to my attention

On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 7:37 PM Mark E. Fuller  wrote:
>
>
> 22 May 2022 17:58:58 Eli Marmor :
>
> By the way, since yesterday, Github Markdown supports LaTeX.
>
> On Sun, 22 May 2022 at 17:39, Michael Shiloh  
> wrote:
>>
>> I do all my presentations in markdown and show them directly from
>> Github  (github.com/michaelshiloh)
>>
>> On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 6:36 PM Mark E. Fuller  
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > 22 May 2022 17:33:52 Shachar Shemesh :
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> >
>> > I need a recommendation for a presentation tool. What do you use?
>> >
>> > I make slides in LaTeX using the Beamer class.
>> > See https://github.com/mefuller/LaTeX_Presentations
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> It looks like GH markdown supports MathJax, so LaTeX-formatted formulae: 
> https://analyticsindiamag.com/github-now-supports-mathematical-expressions-on-markdown/
>
> This is a very nice feature, which is new to me, but it is by no means 
> "support for LaTeX"

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Re: Good presentation tool

[Michael Shiloh]

I do all my presentations in markdown and show them directly from
Github  (github.com/michaelshiloh)

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>
> 22 May 2022 17:33:52 Shachar Shemesh :
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I need a recommendation for a presentation tool. What do you use?
>
> I make slides in LaTeX using the Beamer class.
> See https://github.com/mefuller/LaTeX_Presentations
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Re: Should beginners work with WSL?

[Michael Shiloh]

That's a cool trick, thanks for the idea!

‪On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 8:23 AM ‫אורי‬‎  wrote:‬
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm using git bash - by installing Git for Windows, I get a bash shell with 
> most of the commands I need from Linux, and I can run it also when not 
> related to git. For example diff, awk, etc.
>
> Also if for some reason I need a real Linux machine, I can SSH to one of my 
> Ubuntu servers, and run my command remotely from there.
>
> I never had a need to run a Linux app that is not a shell command on my 
> desktop.
>
>
> אורי
> u...@speedy.net
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 11:44 AM Steve Litt  wrote:
>>
>> אורי said on Sun, 6 Feb 2022 0
>>
>> >Personally I never used WSL, and I have been using Linux servers and
>> >Windows desktops for more than 20 years.
>>
>> Being a huge POSIX fan, I'm sure I'd use it if I had Windows machines.
>>
>> Sorry how my  left to right settings garbled the reference to אורי . I
>> tried to fix it and only made it worse.
>>
>> SteveT
>>
>> Steve Litt
>> Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful
>> Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques
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Re: Acronyms: was Should beginners work with WSL?

[Michael Shiloh]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/about
"The Windows Subsystem for Linux lets developers run a GNU/Linux
environment -- including most command-line tools, utilities, and
applications -- directly on Windows, unmodified, without the overhead of a
traditional virtual machine or dualboot setup."


‪On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 8:33 PM ‫אורי‬‎  wrote:‬

> On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 5:32 PM Michael Tewner  wrote:
>
>> After all of these emails, I still don't know what WSL is *shrug*
>>
>
> Just something like the KGB or DDT.
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Re: Acronyms: was Should beginners work with WSL?

[Michael Tewner]

After all of these emails, I still don't know what WSL is *shrug*

On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 2:46 PM Shachar Shemesh  wrote:

>
> On 06/02/2022 14:03, Mark E. Fuller wrote:
>
> I'm new here, but I find LMGTFY and similar responses (like RTFM) to be
> generally unwelcome and inappropriate. Whether or not they are part of the
> culture of a listserv or forum, I do not respond in that manner for the
> simple reason that if I have time to respond, then I have time to respond
> constructively.
>
> Let me just go on record to say I agree. My email referred to my original
> question, not to Aviram's answer.
>
>
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Re: Should beginners work with WSL?

[Michael Shiloh]

Ah, Subsystem! I guessed the Windows and Linux part, but couldn't
figure out the S.

Thanks!

On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 8:48 AM Shachar Shemesh  wrote:
>
>
> On 06/02/2022 05:21, Michael Shiloh wrote:
>
> What is WSL?
>
> Windows Subsystem for Linux.
>
>
> It allows you, on any Windows 10 machine, to install a virtual machine + 
> Linux with a single command. It allows you to open an Ubuntu (some other 
> distros are also supported, but Ubuntu is their main one) shell that is 
> sort-of kinda integrated into Windows. No GUI support, at this time.
>
>
> It has been highly hyped, because Microsoft is, essentially, bundling Linux. 
> Then again, I'm more excited about the fact that WordPad now opens ODT files 
> out of the box (Word has done that for quite some time).
>
>
> At the end of the day, I see no difference between WSL and installing 
> VirtualBox, configuring shared folders, and installing Ubuntu on it. 
> Installation is easier, but VirtualBox also gives you GUI.
>
>
> The only area I'm not sure how things work is around system services. 
> VirtualBox doesn't give me nested virtualization, so I can't get WSL working 
> on my Windows inside a VM. I'll need to reboot to test it, so I'm doing the 
> lazy thing and asking whether anyone else has any experience :-)
>
>
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Re: Should beginners work with WSL?

[Michael Shiloh]

What is WSL?

On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 11:40 PM Shachar Shemesh  wrote:

> The context is a book I'm writing about introduction to Linux. I don't
> know exactly who will pick it up and what her reasons might be.
> On 05/02/2022 08:37, Yaacov Zamir wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Sorry for the off topic answer
> I was trying to think what I would recommend, and found that I would give
> different answers depending on the needs of the specific beginner.
> Do they want to try out the desktop environment, e.g. gnome KDE?
> Do they want to learn to be linux sys admins?
> Do they want to learn to program linux specific applications, drivers?
> Do they want to learn linux containers, virtulization?
> What type of beginner do you have in mind?
>
> בתאריך יום ו׳, 4 בפבר׳ 2022, 09:11 PM, מאת Shachar Shemesh ‏<
> shac...@shemesh.biz>:
>
>> Title pretty much says it all. Should beginners on Linux be directed
>> toward trying out WSL?
>>
>>
>> I have my own opinion, but I'd like to hear others as well.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Shachar
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Re: OT: looking for a job

[Michael Tewner]

I understand your dislike for Social Networks, but as a hiring manager at
my current position, the first thing I did was try to find you on LinkedIn.
Not having a LinkedIn profile is going to make it unnecessarily more
difficult to find a position. You don't need to post anything, you don't
need to read anyone's else's posts; I do highly recommend, though, that you
have a well thought-out (and updated) profile on LinkedIn.


On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:40 PM Maayan Eshed  wrote:

> Hi Didi and Micha
> Your reply is kind and valid. And you made RedHat sound like a good
> workplace. I remember them fondly so I don't mind (:
>
> I guess I asked about LinkedIn not just to make sure its not a PR/HR waste
> of time nowadays, but also because of an inherent dislike for social
> networks.
> If non of the offers this list has suggested will work out, I'll reopen
> the account there with less reluctance.
>
> Cordial thank you all who has already sent offers.
> I'm going through them and considering and slowly replying.
>
> You are all much appreciated, it makes it actually nice to be back (:
>
> Ma'ayan
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:55 AM Yedidyah Bar David 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maayan,
>>
>> Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list
>> and searching LinkedIn.
>> Why not both?
>>
>> I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing,
>> and I wouldn't be surprised if I
>> heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel are
>> through/thanks to it. I have
>> absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications (such
>> as job retention when
>> through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.).
>>
>> I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have
>> jobs that can suit
>> you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ 500
>> people now and is
>> growing quite quickly.
>>
>> Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed there
>> that some old acquaintance
>> moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as well...
>>
>> To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an
>> advertisement for Red Hat. I
>> considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope that's
>> ok...
>>
>> Good luck and best regards,
>> --
>> Didi
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:55 PM Maayan Eshed 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello guys and girls
>> > I apoiogize if this isn't the place for it, but I've been offline for a
>> long time, and this seems to be the only israeli-tech-list still active in
>> my mailbox. You are more than wellcome to redirect me to a propper channle
>> (is LinkedIn a real thing?)
>> >
>> > As the headline says - i'm in the market for a job. Been happily doing
>> non-tech stuff for the last few years, but with Obiquitus Omicron, here I
>> am. So:
>> >
>> > C.V will be sent per request, here is my general direction, both ways:
>> >
>> > Desired job includes mainly getting paid for being useful without
>> catching COVID (I'm at risk if I catch it.)
>> > I would like to do something that I think is cool, but thats really
>> just a wish and not a demand.
>> > Anything from a short gig to a full time long term at something you
>> teach me from scratch may be fine.
>> >
>> > Skills: nothing unusual:
>> > I can Bash, I can Vi.
>> > git, Apache and SQL are no strangers though may need some reminding.
>> > I can install stuff (OS's, servers, stuff) I can even uninstall stuff
>> sometimes (;
>> > I have in my past academic programing courses which I enjoyed but never
>> deployed on a job.
>> > I've been a linux user since the late 90's both for work and personal
>> purposes.
>> > I have a general understanding of how the internet was said to work
>> before street lamp posts started double as amazon-anywhere spyware hotspots
>> (generic term, not updated on their trademarks and specks).
>> >
>> > Am I embarrasing myself right now? Probably (:
>> > But I think you get the idea.
>> > Old Knowledge, but I can and like to learn and expand. Especially if
>> you teach well and pay well for it.
>> >
>> > I currently live in the north, I have a car and am not afraid to use it.
>> > Would rather not be obligated to be exposed to offices at all, but
>> would sit with careful and vaccinated bunch in a not-stuffy place, with
>> masks fully on. Maybe. Depends.
>> >
>> > Thanx for reading, thanx for linuxing, lemme know if you have something
>> relevant.
>> > Cheers
>> > Ma'ayan.
>> >
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Re: Introduction

[Michael Shiloh]

Cool stuff Mark! Very nice to meet you. Your research sounds interesting.

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 2:13 PM Mark E. Fuller 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> sorry if I failed to do this earlier - I thought I had already
> introduced myself, but based on a few recent conversations in seems that
> I likely did not.
>
> I'm Mark Fuller (fuller or mefuller most places), an Oleh Hadash (May
> 2021) from the US via way of Germany.
> I presently work as a postdoc at the Technion doing research on
> combustion and fuel chemistry. I've primarily been an experimentalist,
> but have gotten much more into software development and scientific
> computing having long been the only guy in the lab who used Linux or
> could do data analysis with more automation that copy-pasting in Excel.
> I'm a long-time Linux user and FOSS enthusiast (first used Debian at
> university in 2006) and I have been part of the Fedora Project since
> 2010 where I have done some translations (German), and am just now
> getting into packaging.
>
> I'm very much looking to continue drifting professionally and
> learn/apply more lessons about good development practices to the
> scientific software to which I contribute, since much of it is pretty
> rough around the edges.
>
> Regards,
> fuller
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Re: OT: looking for a job

[Michael Shiloh]

Hi Maayan,

I agree with you that LinkedIn is a social network and I suppose if I were
a purist I wouldn't use it. But I feel that the benefits are useful and
it's not nearly as offensive or dangerous as YouTube or Facebook, so I
tolerate them.

Good luck in your search and let us know what you find!

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:40 PM Maayan Eshed  wrote:

> Hi Didi and Micha
> Your reply is kind and valid. And you made RedHat sound like a good
> workplace. I remember them fondly so I don't mind (:
>
> I guess I asked about LinkedIn not just to make sure its not a PR/HR waste
> of time nowadays, but also because of an inherent dislike for social
> networks.
> If non of the offers this list has suggested will work out, I'll reopen
> the account there with less reluctance.
>
> Cordial thank you all who has already sent offers.
> I'm going through them and considering and slowly replying.
>
> You are all much appreciated, it makes it actually nice to be back (:
>
> Ma'ayan
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:55 AM Yedidyah Bar David 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maayan,
>>
>> Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list
>> and searching LinkedIn.
>> Why not both?
>>
>> I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing,
>> and I wouldn't be surprised if I
>> heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel are
>> through/thanks to it. I have
>> absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications (such
>> as job retention when
>> through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.).
>>
>> I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have
>> jobs that can suit
>> you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ 500
>> people now and is
>> growing quite quickly.
>>
>> Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed there
>> that some old acquaintance
>> moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as well...
>>
>> To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an
>> advertisement for Red Hat. I
>> considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope that's
>> ok...
>>
>> Good luck and best regards,
>> --
>> Didi
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:55 PM Maayan Eshed 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello guys and girls
>> > I apoiogize if this isn't the place for it, but I've been offline for a
>> long time, and this seems to be the only israeli-tech-list still active in
>> my mailbox. You are more than wellcome to redirect me to a propper channle
>> (is LinkedIn a real thing?)
>> >
>> > As the headline says - i'm in the market for a job. Been happily doing
>> non-tech stuff for the last few years, but with Obiquitus Omicron, here I
>> am. So:
>> >
>> > C.V will be sent per request, here is my general direction, both ways:
>> >
>> > Desired job includes mainly getting paid for being useful without
>> catching COVID (I'm at risk if I catch it.)
>> > I would like to do something that I think is cool, but thats really
>> just a wish and not a demand.
>> > Anything from a short gig to a full time long term at something you
>> teach me from scratch may be fine.
>> >
>> > Skills: nothing unusual:
>> > I can Bash, I can Vi.
>> > git, Apache and SQL are no strangers though may need some reminding.
>> > I can install stuff (OS's, servers, stuff) I can even uninstall stuff
>> sometimes (;
>> > I have in my past academic programing courses which I enjoyed but never
>> deployed on a job.
>> > I've been a linux user since the late 90's both for work and personal
>> purposes.
>> > I have a general understanding of how the internet was said to work
>> before street lamp posts started double as amazon-anywhere spyware hotspots
>> (generic term, not updated on their trademarks and specks).
>> >
>> > Am I embarrasing myself right now? Probably (:
>> > But I think you get the idea.
>> > Old Knowledge, but I can and like to learn and expand. Especially if
>> you teach well and pay well for it.
>> >
>> > I currently live in the north, I have a car and am not afraid to use it.
>> > Would rather not be obligated to be exposed to offices at all, but
>> would sit with careful and vaccinated bunch in a not-stuffy place, with
>> masks fully on. Maybe. Depends.
>> >
>> > Thanx for reading, thanx for linuxing, lemme know if you have something
>> relevant.
>> > Cheers
>> > Ma'ayan.
>> >
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Re: OT: looking for a job

[Michael Shiloh]

Didi, you made a great suggestion for Maayan:

Maayan, you could use LinkedIn to see if anyone you know is working at a
place that's interesting to you, and then reach out to them. A personal
introduction is alway so much better than a cold call, even if you have to
go through the formal application process.

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:58 PM Yedidyah Bar David <
linux...@didi.bardavid.org> wrote:

> Hi Maayan,
>
> Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list
> and searching LinkedIn.
> Why not both?
>
> I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing,
> and I wouldn't be surprised if I
> heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel are
> through/thanks to it. I have
> absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications (such
> as job retention when
> through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.).
>
> I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have
> jobs that can suit
> you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ 500
> people now and is
> growing quite quickly.
>
> Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed there
> that some old acquaintance
> moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as well...
>
> To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an
> advertisement for Red Hat. I
> considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope that's
> ok...
>
> Good luck and best regards,
> --
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Fun with powers of 2

[Michael Shiloh]

‪On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 10:20 AM ‫אורי‬‎  wrote:‬

> I apologize about the subject. Feel free to change it. The main post was
> about almost crashing my computer with the command  _py -c
> "print(2**64**3)".
> אורי
> u...@speedy.net
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 8:01 AM Michael Shiloh 
> wrote:
>
>> Interesting discussion, but the subject seems quite wrong.
>>
>> ‪On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 9:32 AM ‫אורי‬‎  wrote:‬
>>
>>> From checking also powers of 3, I can't find more than c==5 (for 3**20
>>> and 3**124).
>>>
>>> אורי
>>> u...@speedy.net
>>>
>>>
>>> ‪On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 7:24 AM ‫אורי‬‎  wrote:‬
>>>
>>>> Thank you, that's interesting. So all such numbers are divisible by 9.
>>>> I didn't think about it.
>>>>
>>>> You might be interested in my related question:
>>>>
>>>> https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/4348279/what-is-the-highest-number-of-digits-so-that-this-number-of-digits-in-a-specific
>>>>
>>>> From checking about the first 50,000 powers of 2, I didn't find c more
>>>> than 5, who actually appears only twice (c is the number of digits who
>>>> appear exactly 10% of the time in the decimal form of a specific power of
>>>> 2).
>>>>
>>>> אורי
>>>> u...@speedy.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 6:53 AM Daniel Shahaf 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> אורי wrote on Tue, 04 Jan 2022 04:07 +00:00:
>>>>> > Are there powers of 2 which give exactly 10% of each of the digits 0
>>>>> to 9 (in
>>>>> > decimal form)?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, because then the sum of the digits would be a multiple of nine, so
>>>>> the
>>>>> number wouldn't be a power of two.
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Re: Python on Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS

[Michael Shiloh]

Interesting discussion, but the subject seems quite wrong.

‪On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 9:32 AM ‫אורי‬‎  wrote:‬

> From checking also powers of 3, I can't find more than c==5 (for 3**20 and
> 3**124).
>
> אורי
> u...@speedy.net
>
>
> ‪On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 7:24 AM ‫אורי‬‎  wrote:‬
>
>> Thank you, that's interesting. So all such numbers are divisible by 9. I
>> didn't think about it.
>>
>> You might be interested in my related question:
>>
>> https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/4348279/what-is-the-highest-number-of-digits-so-that-this-number-of-digits-in-a-specific
>>
>> From checking about the first 50,000 powers of 2, I didn't find c more
>> than 5, who actually appears only twice (c is the number of digits who
>> appear exactly 10% of the time in the decimal form of a specific power of
>> 2).
>>
>> אורי
>> u...@speedy.net
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 6:53 AM Daniel Shahaf 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> אורי wrote on Tue, 04 Jan 2022 04:07 +00:00:
>>> > Are there powers of 2 which give exactly 10% of each of the digits 0
>>> to 9 (in
>>> > decimal form)?
>>>
>>> No, because then the sum of the digits would be a multiple of nine, so
>>> the
>>> number wouldn't be a power of two.
>>>
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Re: Hebrew with putty

[Michael Shiloh]

I was not using Putty

‪On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 1:09 PM ‫אורי‬‎  wrote:‬

> Hi Michael,
>
> Did you use putty then?
>
> אורי
> u...@speedy.net
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 12:07 PM Michael Shiloh <
> michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is very interesting. A while ago I was looking at something in
>> Hebrew (I can't remember if it was a website or email) and I realized that
>> the phone numbers were reversed. I'll bet they had the same bug you are
>> talking about.
>>
>> Now if only I could remember what that was 
>>
>> ‪On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:45 AM ‫אורי‬‎  wrote:‬
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I realized it is probably a bug in putty, so I wrote to
>>> pu...@projects.tartarus.org and got a reply.
>>>
>>> https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/feedback.html
>>>
>>> However the putty developers might need help to fix it as they are not
>>> RTL-language speaking themselves, so if you know how to do it you can write
>>> to them or send them a patch of the source code. I tried to look at the
>>> putty source code myself but it looks complicated and I don't know how to
>>> fix this bug for myself. There is an option to disable bidirectional text
>>> display in putty, but then the Hebrew text is reversed too.
>>>
>>> אורי
>>> u...@speedy.net
>>>
>>>
>>> ‪On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 7:10 AM ‫אורי‬‎  wrote:‬
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm using bash on Ubuntu. I run a command to check how many times each
>>>> lines appear. My command is something like:
>>>>
>>>> $ cat /var/log/django/speedy.log*|fgrep -i send_mail|fgrep
>>>> 'subject="'|fgrep -v uri+selenium-test-user|awk -F\, '{print
>>>> $(NF-1)","$NF}'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr|fgrep -v
>>>> email/contact_by_form/admin_feedback
>>>>
>>>> And the results are:
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>  96  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="You
>>>> have a new message on Speedy Net"
>>>>  39  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="יש
>>>> לך הודעה חדשה בספידי מץ'"
>>>>  22  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
>>>> subject="אמת את כתובת הדואר האלקטרוני שלך בספידי מץ'"
>>>>  15  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_second_email,
>>>> subject="Confirm your email address on Speedy Net"
>>>>  10  template_name_prefix=email/likes/like, subject="מישהו עשה לך
>>>> לייק בספידי מץ'"
>>>>   7  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
>>>> subject="אמתי את כתובת הדואר האלקטרוני שלך בספידי מץ'"
>>>>   6  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/password_reset,
>>>> subject="Password reset on Speedy Net"
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> (I only showed a few lines in the middle).
>>>>
>>>> I do it with putty SSH, but when I view it with putty, I see "01" where
>>>> "10" should be, and "93" where "39" should be (see screenshot attached). I
>>>> think this is because the rest of the line is in Hebrew. Why does it show
>>>> "01" and "93" and how can I fix it, if I can?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> אורי
>>>> u...@speedy.net
>>>>
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Re: Hebrew with putty

[Michael Shiloh]

This is very interesting. A while ago I was looking at something in Hebrew
(I can't remember if it was a website or email) and I realized that the
phone numbers were reversed. I'll bet they had the same bug you are talking
about.

Now if only I could remember what that was 

‪On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:45 AM ‫אורי‬‎  wrote:‬

> Hi,
>
> I realized it is probably a bug in putty, so I wrote to
> pu...@projects.tartarus.org and got a reply.
>
> https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/feedback.html
>
> However the putty developers might need help to fix it as they are not
> RTL-language speaking themselves, so if you know how to do it you can write
> to them or send them a patch of the source code. I tried to look at the
> putty source code myself but it looks complicated and I don't know how to
> fix this bug for myself. There is an option to disable bidirectional text
> display in putty, but then the Hebrew text is reversed too.
>
> אורי
> u...@speedy.net
>
>
> ‪On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 7:10 AM ‫אורי‬‎  wrote:‬
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm using bash on Ubuntu. I run a command to check how many times each
>> lines appear. My command is something like:
>>
>> $ cat /var/log/django/speedy.log*|fgrep -i send_mail|fgrep
>> 'subject="'|fgrep -v uri+selenium-test-user|awk -F\, '{print
>> $(NF-1)","$NF}'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr|fgrep -v
>> email/contact_by_form/admin_feedback
>>
>> And the results are:
>>
>> ...
>>  96  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="You
>> have a new message on Speedy Net"
>>  39  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="יש לך
>> הודעה חדשה בספידי מץ'"
>>  22  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
>> subject="אמת את כתובת הדואר האלקטרוני שלך בספידי מץ'"
>>  15  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_second_email,
>> subject="Confirm your email address on Speedy Net"
>>  10  template_name_prefix=email/likes/like, subject="מישהו עשה לך
>> לייק בספידי מץ'"
>>   7  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
>> subject="אמתי את כתובת הדואר האלקטרוני שלך בספידי מץ'"
>>   6  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/password_reset,
>> subject="Password reset on Speedy Net"
>> ...
>>
>> (I only showed a few lines in the middle).
>>
>> I do it with putty SSH, but when I view it with putty, I see "01" where
>> "10" should be, and "93" where "39" should be (see screenshot attached). I
>> think this is because the rest of the line is in Hebrew. Why does it show
>> "01" and "93" and how can I fix it, if I can?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> אורי
>> u...@speedy.net
>>
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Re: Copy-Paste from Firefox 88.0.1 not working properly on Ubuntu 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo)

[Michael Shiloh]

I'm also on 21.04. Copying from FF to a terminal and to email seems to work
fine.

Probably unrelated, but I first upgraded from 20.10 to 21.04. Everything
seemed fine until I tried to use my Arduino, and found that the serial
ports no longer worked. After some discussion with Arduino and Ubuntu
forums I decided to do a fresh install of 21.04, and now serial ports work.
(I would have liked to understand this problem but I'm on a deadline to get
some Arduino work done).

Like I said, probably unrelated. But if you get desperate try a fresh
install (I know, that's a real kludge, like power cycling to see if a
problem goes away)

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 9:44 AM Gabor Szabo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A few days ago I  upgraded from 20.10 to 21.04. Since then I have problems
> with Copy-paste. At first it seemed to be randomly not working, but after
> some experimentation I think it does not work when I try to Copy from
> Firefox to anything else which is not Firefox.
>
> (And to be even stranger it seems to work sometimes from Firefox to other
> apps as well, but only a few times and then it stops working.)
>
> I also posted it on AskUbuntu, but so far no good responses.
>
>
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1338970/copy-paste-from-firefox-88-0-1-not-working-properly-on-ubuntu-21-04-hirsute-hip
>
> Have any of you encountered it?
> Do you have a similar environment and it works for you?
>
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Re: UGLY OFFTOPIC (Re: Fwd: Weird 'free' output)

[Michael Tewner]

I don't get it - Why shouldn't even a convicted criminal be able to answer
a question about Linux FREE(1)   ?

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 10:29 PM Omer Zak  wrote:

> May I suggest that Diego Iastrubni be removed from this mailing list
> due to potential future disruption of public peace by asking for
> removal of people, who have been framed by powerful business
> competitors?
>
> --- Omer Zak
>
>
> On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 22:06 +0300, Shay Gover wrote:
> > Please do not assume that you can speak for the community based on an
> > article at Ynet.
> > There is no verdict in that case, not even a complaint (Checked on
> > Nevo now). Just a rumor and someone wealthy enough to post it on
> > Ynet.
> >
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Ori Idan 
> > Date: Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: Weird 'free' output
> > To: Diego Iastrubni 
> > Cc: IGLU Mailing list 
> >
> >
> > Sorry, I am not a convicted criminal.
> > If you believe what is written in Yediot, that is your problem.
> >
> > --
> > Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
> > http://www.heliconbooks.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:21 PM Diego Iastrubni 
> > wrote:
> > > Ori,
> > >
> > > You are not welcome here. Please unsubscribe.
> > >
> > > Admins - please remove this convicted criminal from this list. This
> > > man is a stain on our community.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 4, 2021, 7:53 PM Ori Idan  wrote:
> > > > Note that Linux tries to use available memory for cache, that is
> > > > why free memory seems small.
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Re: Closing laptop lid while Zoom is running prevents wake-from-suspend when lid opened

[Michael Shiloh]

Thanks for the pointer Shimi, and your hunch.

I'm off to read the document.

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 8:57 AM shimi  wrote:
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 1:05 PM Michael Shiloh  
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't even know where to start looking.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
>
> Where to start: https://01.org/node/3721
>
> My hunch, whenever NVIDIA or Intel are involved, is to start off your 
> investigation with the graphics adapter.
>
> HTH,
>
> -- Shimi

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Closing laptop lid while Zoom is running prevents wake-from-suspend when lid opened

[Michael Shiloh]

Hello all,

Lenovo Thinkpad X1 carbon, 8th generation
Ubuntu 20.10, kept up to date and various programs added but I haven't
modified the system.

If I close the laptop lid while Zoom is running, then later on when I
open the lid the laptop does not wake-from-suspend. I've tried
pressing the power button but unless I hold it down for long enough to
force a power off, it has no effect. Closing and re-opening the lid
has no effect.

This only happens if I shut down while Zoom was running. I know that
the work-around is to always close Zoom first, but sometimes I forget.

This only happens with Zoom; in all other cases the laptop wakes from
suspend when I open the lid perfectly reliably.

I don't even know where to start looking.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Riddle me this: unsolicited orderly shutdown

[Michael Shiloh]

That's a great story Shachar, thanks for sharing. Hopefully I will remember
this if it ever happens to me.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 4:47 PM Shachar Shemesh  wrote:

>
> On 12/03/2021 14:08, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
>
>
> On 12/03/2021 12:34, borissh1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Would it be possible to monitor both dbus messages (system and user) AND
> Xsession errors while you do so ?
>
> Yes, that provided some progress. At least I can tell the name of the
> component that triggers the shutdown. The session dbus monitor says:
>
> signal time=1615549109.464622 sender=:1.13 -> destination=(null
> destination) serial=832 path=/component/org_kde_powerdevil;
> interface=org.kde.kglobalaccel.Component; member=globalShortcutPressed
>string "org_kde_powerdevil"
>string "PowerOff"
>int64 6630990
>
> I'm not 100% sure what that means. It seems that powerdevil thinks that
> someone pressed the power button. More research necessary, but at least
> we're finally getting a log admitting _something_ happened.
>
> I've cracked it!!!
>
> The problem was that my USB-C docking station was incapable of providing
> enough power to run the computer. It should not have been a problem, as I'm
> guessing the problem was momentary and the computer's battery would have
> also sufficed. It did, however, respond to this situation by sending a
> power-off key (which is why the BIOS did not say anything - it wasn't it
> that initiated the shutdown).
>
> I've connected the computer's provided power supply, and the problem is
> now GONE.
>
> Thank you, everyone.
>
> Shachar
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Re: New Modem Router Recommendations?

[Michael Tewner]

In addition to everything Yuval said, especially about putting the modem
into "bridge" mode -
OpenWRT is a great choice. Alternately, I've been using a Ubiquiti
EdgeRouter-X to do PPPoE. The ER-X is a ~200 NIS Gigabit router with
integrated switch chip. I love these little Ubiquiti devices!
DataSheet: https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/edgemax/EdgeRouter_X_DS.pdf
-mike


On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 7:21 PM Yuval Adam <_...@yuv.al> wrote:

> Definitely the TP-Link, they have great hardware and that device works
> great as an xDSL modem.
>
> Furthermore, D-Link devices tend to run on outdated kernels.
>
>
> Put the TP-Link in bridge mode to minimize attack surface, use it just as
> a dumb modem, and put a proper OpenWrt box behind it.
>
>
> On 5/21/20 6:59 PM, vordoo wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Think I'm down to: TP-Link TD-W9970 vs D-Link DSL-224. Any
> recommendations/thoughts/war-story's are highly appreciated. Sadly they
> both do not support dd-wrt or open-wrt, it looks like no ADSL modem does
> these days, so that will need an extra box.
>
>
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Re: Can anyone help translate the Open Source Hardware statement to Hebrew?

[Michael Shiloh]

Great! I'll put you in touch with Alicia.

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 10:39 AM marc volovic  wrote:

> Will be glad to help.
>
> On 9 May 2020 09:17:56 GMT+03:00, Michael Shiloh <
> michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I was just poking around the Open Source Hardware Association
>> <https://www.oshwa.org/> and was shocked to see that their definition
>> <https://www.oshwa.org/definition/>, while available in a number of
>> other languages, is not available in Hebrew. I say shocked because usually
>> in technology and especially in Open Source, Hebrew is among the first
>> translations.
>>
>> My Hebrew, and especially my technical Hebrew, is not good enough to work
>> on this.
>>
>> How about you?
>>
>> If you're interested I'm happy to connect you with Alicia, one of the
>> co-founders.
>>
>> Michael
>>
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Can anyone help translate the Open Source Hardware statement to Hebrew?

[Michael Shiloh]

I was just poking around the Open Source Hardware Association
<https://www.oshwa.org/> and was shocked to see that their definition
<https://www.oshwa.org/definition/>, while available in a number of other
languages, is not available in Hebrew. I say shocked because usually in
technology and especially in Open Source, Hebrew is among the first
translations.

My Hebrew, and especially my technical Hebrew, is not good enough to work
on this.

How about you?

If you're interested I'm happy to connect you with Alicia, one of the
co-founders.

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Re: After waking from suspend, USB devices are not recognized (Ubuntu 17.10)

[Michael Shiloh]

Very interesting. Thanks Yuval.

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 8:06 PM, Yuval Adam <_...@yuv.al> wrote:

> This might help:
>
> http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-configuration.html#usb
>
> On 11/24/2017 05:51 PM, Michael Shiloh wrote:
> > Very interesting. After removing TLP the problem seems to have gone
> > away. I am now able to enjoy USB peripherals again. Thanks!
> >
> > I'd love to understand why, though.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Michael Shiloh
> > <michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com <mailto:michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Not powertop, but yes tlp. Very interesting. I will uninstall and
> > see if that solves the problem.
> >
> > Another observation I just made: If I suspend the laptop with USB
> > devices plugged in, they are still detected when I restart.
> >
> > I guess I could work around by leaving some small USB device plugged
> > in (one of those wireless mouse things) but obviously that's a real
> > hack. Still, the observation may be a hint as to what's going on or
> > what I might look at next.
> >
> > I will disable TLP and report back.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >     On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:38 AM, Efraim Flashner
> > <efr...@flashner.co.il <mailto:efr...@flashner.co.il>> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 06:15:03PM +0400, Michael Shiloh wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I noticed that my old mouse didn't work all the time, and
> figured it was
> > > time to replace the mouse. Then I had trouble programming some
> Arduinos,
> > > and figured I had a bad Arduino. It wasn't until my system
> failed to see a
> > > thumb drive that I finally realized the common element here:
> After waking
> > > from suspend, no devices plugged in to the USB ports are
> recognized.
> > >
> >
> > Do you run powertop or tlp on your laptop? Sometimes those can
> cause
> > issues with the USB ports.
> >
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Re: After waking from suspend, USB devices are not recognized (Ubuntu 17.10)

[Michael Shiloh]

Very interesting. After removing TLP the problem seems to have gone away. I
am now able to enjoy USB peripherals again. Thanks!

I'd love to understand why, though.

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Michael Shiloh <
michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not powertop, but yes tlp. Very interesting. I will uninstall and see if
> that solves the problem.
>
> Another observation I just made: If I suspend the laptop with USB devices
> plugged in, they are still detected when I restart.
>
> I guess I could work around by leaving some small USB device plugged in
> (one of those wireless mouse things) but obviously that's a real hack.
> Still, the observation may be a hint as to what's going on or what I might
> look at next.
>
> I will disable TLP and report back.
>
> Michael
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:38 AM, Efraim Flashner <efr...@flashner.co.il>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 06:15:03PM +0400, Michael Shiloh wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I noticed that my old mouse didn't work all the time, and figured it was
>> > time to replace the mouse. Then I had trouble programming some Arduinos,
>> > and figured I had a bad Arduino. It wasn't until my system failed to
>> see a
>> > thumb drive that I finally realized the common element here: After
>> waking
>> > from suspend, no devices plugged in to the USB ports are recognized.
>> >
>>
>> Do you run powertop or tlp on your laptop? Sometimes those can cause
>> issues with the USB ports.
>>
>> --
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Re: After waking from suspend, USB devices are not recognized (Ubuntu 17.10)

[Michael Shiloh]

Not powertop, but yes tlp. Very interesting. I will uninstall and see if
that solves the problem.

Another observation I just made: If I suspend the laptop with USB devices
plugged in, they are still detected when I restart.

I guess I could work around by leaving some small USB device plugged in
(one of those wireless mouse things) but obviously that's a real hack.
Still, the observation may be a hint as to what's going on or what I might
look at next.

I will disable TLP and report back.

Michael

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:38 AM, Efraim Flashner <efr...@flashner.co.il>
wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 06:15:03PM +0400, Michael Shiloh wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I noticed that my old mouse didn't work all the time, and figured it was
> > time to replace the mouse. Then I had trouble programming some Arduinos,
> > and figured I had a bad Arduino. It wasn't until my system failed to see
> a
> > thumb drive that I finally realized the common element here: After waking
> > from suspend, no devices plugged in to the USB ports are recognized.
> >
>
> Do you run powertop or tlp on your laptop? Sometimes those can cause
> issues with the USB ports.
>
> --
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After waking from suspend, USB devices are not recognized (Ubuntu 17.10)

[Michael Shiloh]

Hi,

I noticed that my old mouse didn't work all the time, and figured it was
time to replace the mouse. Then I had trouble programming some Arduinos,
and figured I had a bad Arduino. It wasn't until my system failed to see a
thumb drive that I finally realized the common element here: After waking
from suspend, no devices plugged in to the USB ports are recognized.

$ uname -a
Linux x1 4.13.0-16-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 11 18:35:14 UTC 2017
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Hardware details are at the end of this mail.

Here is the system in its failed state:

$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

$ lspci -nnk | grep -A2 USB
00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0
xHCI Controller [8086:9d2f] (rev 21)
Subsystem: Lenovo Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller [17aa:2238]
Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
00:14.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Sunrise
Point-LP

$ lsmod | grep usb
btusb  45056  0
btrtl  16384  1 btusb
btbcm  16384  1 btusb
btintel16384  1 btusb
bluetooth 540672  14 btrtl,btintel,bnep,btbcm,rfcomm,btusb
usbhid 49152  0
hid   118784  4 hid_sensor_hub,hid_generic,usb
hid,intel_ishtp_hid

After a reboot, when USB devices are recognized, the same commands look
like this:

$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 138a:0090 Validity Sensors, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04f2:b5c1 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 046d:c404 Logitech, Inc. TrackMan Wheel
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

$ lspci -nnk | grep -A2 USB
00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0
xHCI Controller [8086:9d2f] (rev 21)
Subsystem: Lenovo Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller [17aa:2238]
Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
00:14.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Sunrise
Point-LP

$ lsmod | grep usb
usbhid 49152  0
btusb  45056  0
btrtl  16384  1 btusb
btbcm  16384  1 btusb
btintel16384  1 btusb
bluetooth 540672  31 btrtl,btintel,bnep,btbcm,rfcomm,btusb
hid   118784  4 hid_sensor_hub,hid_generic,
usbhid,intel_ishtp_hid



I'm not much of an expert with USB and udev, so I did a bit of reading and
learned about udevadm. After a reboot, when USB is working,

$ sudo apt-get install udevadm

shows activity when I plug or unplug a USB device. After a suspend,
nothing.

I googled expressions like "usb not recognized after wake from suspend" and
didn't find anything useful.

I don't know enough about this part of the system to know where to look
next. What do you suggest I do next in order to determine where the problem
might be?

System info below.

Thanks in advance for any guidance,
Michael

$ inxi -Fx
System:Host: x1 Kernel: 4.13.0-16-generic x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 7.2.0
   Desktop: Gnome 3.26.2 (Gtk 3.22.25-0ubuntu1)
   Distro: Ubuntu Bionic Beaver (development branch)
Machine:   Device: laptop System: LENOVO product: 20FBCTO1WW v: ThinkPad X1
Carbon 4th serial: N/A
   Mobo: LENOVO model: 20FBCTO1WW v: SDK0J40709 WIN serial: N/A
   UEFI: LENOVO v: N1FET44W (1.18 ) date: 09/01/2016
BatteryBAT0: charge: 40.9 Wh 85.1% condition: 48.0/52.1 Wh (92%)
   model: SMP 00HW029 status: Charging
CPU:   Dual core Intel Core i7-6600U (-HT-MCP-)
   arch: Skylake rev.3 cache: 4096 KB
   flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 11232
   clock speeds: max: 3400 MHz 1: 2800 MHz 2: 2800 MHz 3: 2800 MHz
   4: 2800 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel HD Graphics 520 bus-ID: 00:02.0
   Display Server: wayland (X.Org 1.19.5 )
   drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
   Resolution: 1920x1080@59.96hz
   OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 520 (Skylake GT2)
   version: 4.5 Mesa 17.2.2 Direct Render: Yes
Audio: Card Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio
   driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1f.3
   Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.0-16-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel Ethernet Connection I219-LM
   driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k bus-ID: 00:1f.6
   IF: enp0s31f6 state: down mac: 54:ee:75:c2:96:f3
   Card-2: Intel Wireless 8260 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 04:00.0
   IF: wlp4s0 state: up mac: f4:8c:50:5d:a8:6d
Drives:HDD Total Size: 128.0GB (51.5% used)
   ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 model: INTEL_SSDPEKKW128G7 size: 128.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 101G used: 47G (49%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
   ID-2: swap-1 size: 17.04GB used: 0.00GB (0%)
   fs: swap

Re: Open Source Physical Access Control Solutions in Israel?

[Michael Shiloh]

What do you mean exactly by physical access control system? Are you
referring to making access to the building easier for those with
physical limitations? If so,Tikun Olam Makers might be a good starting
point

If you refer to physical computing, Arduino is readily available at
various locations in Israel. (Disclosure: I work very occasionally for
them)

Or do you mean something else?



On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Amichai Rotman  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I volunteer at a youth center and they are looking for a physical access
> control system for the youth center.
>
> Any of you know of an Open Source system that has a reseller in Israel?
>
> I would like to make it a project for the kids to build using a Raspberry PI
> or something like that...
>
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: Advice on lightweight laptops for Linux (of course)

[Michael Shiloh]

Thanks Dan for your perspective. I'm actually going to teaching in Abu
Dhabi next September so I'm really glad you brought that up.

In general, I've been hearing good things about the current model (4th
generation) which I believe came out earlier this year, so I assume
your model is something prior. Is that correct? On the other hand, the
current model has only been around for a year, so fewer opportunities
to fail.

Michael

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Dan Yasny <dya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been carrying an X1 around for a couple of years now. The battery life
> is great, Fedora support is great, weight and convenience is quite good,
> except the keyboard is a bit on the weird side when it comes to the function
> keys and the missing insert key, but I've learned to live with that.
>
> The downside however is the reliability. In this time I've had the screen
> replaced, the keyboard replaced and the motherboard/cpu/ram/etc (it's all a
> single block) replaced. Each time it takes a week at the lab (I don't have
> the onsite warranty, and I am in Canada, so YMMV). So if you intend to use
> it somewhere where warranty isn't available, or if you intend to use it
> longer than the warranty period - stay away. It's expensive enough to be
> expected to last, but it's quite flimsy.
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Michael Shiloh
> <michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Eli,
>>
>> What kind of laptop do you use?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 2:30 PM, E.S. Rosenberg
>> <esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il> wrote:
>> > Ever since getting my current laptop that weighs ~1.5kg I said I will
>> > never get anything heavier again, it's something you can't return
>> > from.
>> >
>> > Thin and light devices (like the X1 and the T460S) tend to not be very
>> > upgradeable, it's a price you pay for thin & light... the SSD is most
>> > likely upgradeable on any model you choose because so far soldered on
>> > SSDs aren't all that common
>> >
>> > The videos on youtube clearly show that the T460S has at least one
>> > SODIMM slot, the X1 does not seem to have it.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Eliyahu - אליהו
>> >
>> > 2016-12-26 23:37 GMT+02:00 Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com>:
>> >> Hello everyone,
>> >>
>> >> I hope everyone is enjoying a very happy Chanukah.
>> >>
>> >> You might recall about a year ago I raised the question of a powerful
>> >> laptop for Linux. I settled on a Thinkpad W541 and I am thrilled with
>> >> it ... except for the weight.
>> >>
>> >> As I travel more and don't need the power of the W541 all the time,
>> >> I'm thinking of a lightweight laptop for daily use.
>> >>
>> >> It's hard for me to consider anything but Thinkpads: I love the
>> >> TrackPoint, the keyboard, the solid feel of the devices, etc. Given
>> >> that, the top two contenders are the X1 Carbon and the T460S.
>> >>
>> >> The X1 is about 2.6 pounds and more expensive than the T460S which
>> >> weighs about 3 pounds.
>> >>
>> >> Another big difference is whether the RAM and/or SSD can be upgraded
>> >> on the X1 (I've seen equally strong claims that they can and can not).
>> >> Some conversations insist they are soldered in, other say that perhaps
>> >> the RAM can be upgraded by the user but is a non-standard form factor
>> >> that can only be purchased from Lenovo.
>> >>
>> >> I think for the extra .4 pounds I'm willing to go with the better
>> >> price of the T460S, especially if upgrading RAM and SSD is not
>> >> possible on the X1 (I usually purchase from Lenovo with less storage
>> >> and upgrade on my own).
>> >>
>> >> Any thoughts or advice?
>> >>
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Re: Advice on lightweight laptops for Linux (of course)

[Michael Shiloh]

Thanks Eli,

What kind of laptop do you use?

Michael

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 2:30 PM, E.S. Rosenberg
<esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il> wrote:
> Ever since getting my current laptop that weighs ~1.5kg I said I will
> never get anything heavier again, it's something you can't return
> from.
>
> Thin and light devices (like the X1 and the T460S) tend to not be very
> upgradeable, it's a price you pay for thin & light... the SSD is most
> likely upgradeable on any model you choose because so far soldered on
> SSDs aren't all that common
>
> The videos on youtube clearly show that the T460S has at least one
> SODIMM slot, the X1 does not seem to have it.
>
> Regards,
> Eliyahu - אליהו
>
> 2016-12-26 23:37 GMT+02:00 Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com>:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I hope everyone is enjoying a very happy Chanukah.
>>
>> You might recall about a year ago I raised the question of a powerful
>> laptop for Linux. I settled on a Thinkpad W541 and I am thrilled with
>> it ... except for the weight.
>>
>> As I travel more and don't need the power of the W541 all the time,
>> I'm thinking of a lightweight laptop for daily use.
>>
>> It's hard for me to consider anything but Thinkpads: I love the
>> TrackPoint, the keyboard, the solid feel of the devices, etc. Given
>> that, the top two contenders are the X1 Carbon and the T460S.
>>
>> The X1 is about 2.6 pounds and more expensive than the T460S which
>> weighs about 3 pounds.
>>
>> Another big difference is whether the RAM and/or SSD can be upgraded
>> on the X1 (I've seen equally strong claims that they can and can not).
>> Some conversations insist they are soldered in, other say that perhaps
>> the RAM can be upgraded by the user but is a non-standard form factor
>> that can only be purchased from Lenovo.
>>
>> I think for the extra .4 pounds I'm willing to go with the better
>> price of the T460S, especially if upgrading RAM and SSD is not
>> possible on the X1 (I usually purchase from Lenovo with less storage
>> and upgrade on my own).
>>
>> Any thoughts or advice?
>>
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Advice on lightweight laptops for Linux (of course)

[Michael Shiloh]

Hello everyone,

I hope everyone is enjoying a very happy Chanukah.

You might recall about a year ago I raised the question of a powerful
laptop for Linux. I settled on a Thinkpad W541 and I am thrilled with
it ... except for the weight.

As I travel more and don't need the power of the W541 all the time,
I'm thinking of a lightweight laptop for daily use.

It's hard for me to consider anything but Thinkpads: I love the
TrackPoint, the keyboard, the solid feel of the devices, etc. Given
that, the top two contenders are the X1 Carbon and the T460S.

The X1 is about 2.6 pounds and more expensive than the T460S which
weighs about 3 pounds.

Another big difference is whether the RAM and/or SSD can be upgraded
on the X1 (I've seen equally strong claims that they can and can not).
Some conversations insist they are soldered in, other say that perhaps
the RAM can be upgraded by the user but is a non-standard form factor
that can only be purchased from Lenovo.

I think for the extra .4 pounds I'm willing to go with the better
price of the T460S, especially if upgrading RAM and SSD is not
possible on the X1 (I usually purchase from Lenovo with less storage
and upgrade on my own).

Any thoughts or advice?

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Re: strange ping and traceroute results

[Michael Tewner]

Heh - You _learn_ that Anycast isn't good for TCP, but LinkedIn proved
differently. Their website uses TCP (obviously), works almost always, and
gracefully recovers when Anycast throws a curve.

There's a great interview on Packet Pushers with LinkedIn Global
Engineering:

Packet Pushers: Show 286: Busting Anycast TCP Myths
http://packetpushers.net/podcast/podcasts/show-286-busting-anycast-tcp-myths/

...and a blog post:
https://engineering.linkedin.com/network-performance/tcp-over-ip-anycast-pipe-dream-or-reality

-Mike Tewner



On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Amos Shapira 
wrote:

> Anycast is not suitable for TCP.
> It IS fantastic for DNS (which uses UDP), which is the first thing a
> client does most of the time to find the server.
> Akamai control server groups by allocating per-customer per-object host
> names, then these can be resolved using their very highly customised DNS
> servers to the right server (also taking into account dynamic changes like
> server cluster load or failure).
> Since DNS uses UDP and the traffic consists on one packet in each
> direction, Anycast is ideal for that scenario.
> The actual content transfer (e.g. move streams, which is where I with
> Akamai for stan.com.au) doesn't use Anycast.
>
> On 24 November 2016 at 04:06, Shachar Shemesh  wrote:
>
>> On 22/11/16 02:19, Amos Shapira wrote:
>>
>> On 21 November 2016 at 18:20, Shachar Shemesh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The DNS resolving google.com guesses your gegraphical location, and
>>> gives you an answer that is nearest where you are. If you use another DNS
>>> to query the domain, you will get a different IP:
>>>
>>
>> It's not always a "guess your geographic location". The smarter ones use
>> Anycast to advertise the same IP address from multiple locations on the
>> Internet and let BGP do its magic to route your packets to the nearest
>> server, taking into account any congestion or other transient connection
>> speed changes. This is how Google's DNS 8.8.8.8 works, or Akamai's CDN. The
>> nice thing about it is that you get optimal response even at the host
>> resolution stage. The DNS server can then take its knowledge of the DNS
>> query source address into account when it decides which IP address to
>> resolve to.
>>
>> It's pretty neat, personally I find it a fascinating trick:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anycast
>>
>> It is, quite fascinating. It is not, unfortunately, as useful as you make
>> it out to be. Neither Google nor Akamai use it for web traffic, for example.
>>
>> The reason is twofold. First, anycast is poorly equipted to handle TCP
>> connections. There is a (remote) possibility that the handler of your IP
>> would change mid-request, which would not play nice with your connection.
>>
>> The second, more pertinent, reason is that , at least for Akamai, they
>> would like to be able to control which server you reach when you make a
>> request. The would like to be able to re-route your in case something bad
>> happens to that server. DNS TTL can be set as low as 30 or 60 seconds. BGP
>> routes have much longer settle times.
>>
>> Shachar
>>
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Re: OFFTOPIC: friends from foocamp requests help from outside North America for researching censorship; script to run on *nix

[Michael Shiloh]

Thanks Shlomi,

I'm normally in USA but I happen to be in Israel right now visiting family
so I ran the client. Very clean and easy.

(By the way, I'm hoping to return to Israel and am looking for teaching
work. Would it be off topic to briefly mention what I teach in the hopes
that people here might have ideas?)

Michael

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> Hi Michael,
>
> thanks for sharing. I don't feel it's off topic for this list and I have
> already retweeted the tweet and have built and ran the client. I'll try to
> publicise it a bit more.
>
> Regards,
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OFFTOPIC: friends from foocamp requests help from outside North America for researching censorship; script to run on *nix

[Michael Shiloh]

Because most responses will be from North America, I thought it would be
particularly valuable if people on this list might be willing to help.

Details here 

>From their website:

Active Geolocation Project

This website is part of a research study conducted by *Nicolas Christin*
and *Zachary Weinberg* at Carnegie Mellon University.

The purpose of our research is to test “active geolocation” algorithms.
These attempt to determine where in the world a computer is, by measuring
how long it takes network messages from that computer to reach other
computers in known locations. We test them by making measurements from
computers in known locations. We can then compare the position calculated
by each algorithm with the truth. We’re also comparing with the position
reported by commercial geolocation services (such as MaxMind
 and Geobytes ) for the
computer’s IP address.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Sumana Harihareswara 
Date: Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FooCampers] request: run this script on computers worldwide
to help research censorship
To: foocamp...@foo.oreilly.com, za...@cmu.edu


In case you want to spread the word about this request, here's a public
URL to use: https://research.owlfolio.org/active-geo/

And you can retweet https://twitter.com/elwoz/status/751403093116542976
: "I'm looking for volunteers to help with a research project:
https://research.owlfolio.org/active-geo/  Especially want people
outside Europe and North America."


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On 11/04/16 15:34, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
> Foo Campers: my friend Zack needs help in his research to measure
> Internet censorship. He's a grad student at CMU and a longtime open
> source software hacker.
>
> (And even if you can't help, you might enjoy his summaries and reviews
> of recent research papers in his field: http://readings.owlfolio.org/ )
>
> Hope you can help!
>
> Sumana Harihareswara
> http://harihareswara.net
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> From: Zack Weinberg 
>
>
> Hello, my name is Zack Weinberg, and I'm a researcher at Carnegie Mellon
> University. I am doing experiments in "active geolocation", which is
> when you try to figure out where a computer physically is by measuring
> packet round-trip times from it to computers in known locations.  This
> has been studied carefully within Europe and the continental USA, but
> much less so elsewhere.
>
> I'm specifically trying to develop a technique for verifying that VPN
> exits are in the country that their operator claims they are.  My larger
> research focuses on measuring Internet censorship, for which I need
> network vantage points in precisely the countries where it's hardest to
> get reliable server hosting.  Commercial VPN operators may prefer to
> locate their hosts in countries where it's easier to do business, and
> only *label* them as being in harder-to-access countries.
>
> I am looking for volunteers who can run my measurement scripts on
> computers physically located all over the world.  South America,
> sub-Saharan Africa, South and Southeast Asia, and Oceania locations are
> especially helpful, but I can use data from anywhere.  You must know the
> latitude and longitude of the computer to within 50km and be willing to
> share that information.  The test performs roughly 10,000 TCP handshakes
> with roughly 1,000 "landmark" computers, at an overall rate of about 20
> handshakes per second, and measures the round-trip times.  No
> application-layer data is transferred.  You may inspect the code before
> running it (and the list of landmarks, but that's just a big list of IP
> addresses so not super informative).  I'm also happy to answer questions
> about the research.
>
> If you're interested, please contact .
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Zack Weinberg
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[JOB] Scene53 is Looking for a Junior DevOps Engineer

[Michael Tewner]

Hi Guys!

Our company, Scene53, is looking for a Junior DevOps engineer.
Specifically, we're looking to hire a bright, challenge-driven, Linux user
to join our small team; We'll be happy to bring you up-to-speed on the
world of DevOps (for various definitions of "DevOps")!

Besides the standard DevOps fare, our team is responsible for all
infrastructure (Production and Dev), networking, and designing and
implementing new technical solutions as required. We are often involved
with working with the developers to tailor solutions which are scalable,
resilient, and self-healing.

Scene53 is an established startup in Tel Aviv (near Nachalat Binyamin); I
like to call it "A Silicon Valley Startup in Tel Aviv". We won TechCrunch
Disrupt a few years back for our Virtual Bar "Shaker" and have since
pivot'ed into other markets. We have a friendly and enjoyable work
environment. There are dogs, and lots of 'em, so keep that in mind if
you're interested in joining us!

Full disclosure: Being a small start-up, our team is also responsible for
all of the company's Windows-based infrastructure, including Active
Directory and desktop PC's. There will be a minimal amount of helping out
the other teams with PC issues, troubleshooting, and maintenance.

If you have a sincere, passionate desire to learn about the world of CI/CD,
NoSQL, Amazon cloud, and infrastructure, this is for you!

For anyone interested, please send over a CV and a short introduction!

Thank you, all!
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Re: OT: SSL certificates

[Michael Tewner]

As far as I know, letsencrypt.org certs are only good for 90 days, and
you'll want to have a script automatically renew and replace the cert in
the background all the time.
I like https://www.namecheap.com , as it helps you find the cheapest
between different CA's.
CACert is worthy of this community's support, but as you mentioned, their
certs aren't included in any browsers or OS's.



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> Hi Gabor,
>
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 07:05:03AM +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> > A found plenty of companies offering SSL certificates. One of them
> > https://www.ssl.com/
> > that was recommended by the domain registrar I am using had
> > $177 / year for the first 3 hostname and then $49 / year for each
> > additional hostname and $129/year for each wildcard domain.
> >
> > Is that a reasonable price? Any suggestions?
>
> How about https://letsencrypt.org/ free certs?
>
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Re: Up-to-date hardware (laptop) recommendations?

[Michael Shiloh]

After much consideration, I purchased a Thinkpad W541. The specific model
was important because I make heavy use of the Trackpoint(tm)  style pointer
and other newer models don't have this.

My version has a massive 2880 x 1620 pixel display, as I often have
multiple things open.

Linux install hung near the beginning the first few times, then continued
flawlessly. I was using an Ubuntu live CD I can't recall what I did to get
past the hanging.

I routinely use an external projector (college professor) and there is only
one projector at my university that sometimes gives me trouble. Lately I've
had no trouble using HDMI via the mini DP with this projector. Other
projectors seem to work fine with either VGA or mini DP.

My Thinkpad has 4 USB ports. I believe 2 of them are 3.0.

No external eSATA. I removed my DVD drive and bought an adapter to install
a second disk drive, which is solid state, on which I installed Linux. I
retained the original Windows disk as I sometimes have to work in Windows.

Happy to answer other questions about this if interested

Michael

I've never tried three monitors but I would like to. If I do I will report
back.

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Roman Ovseitsev <rom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Omer Zak <w...@zak.co.il> wrote:
>
>>
>> How are today's ThinkPads (which are probably different from ThinkPads
>> from years ago)?
>>
>
> There seem to be a notion for slimming down things. Less ports and no DVD
> (aka secondary HDD bay) bay anymore. Keyboard on newer models is a bit
> weird too. F keys row has been combined with media keys and
> end/insert/delete/etc keys have very unusual arrangement. But Linux seems
> to be still well supported.
> I am using T420 which probably won't fit your needs since it's a bit aged
> and can't do more than 2 monitors. But I had a chance to use their latest
> T450 model for a few days with Linux and it seemed ok with no apparent
> issues. It has x3 USB 3.0 ports, VGA + mini DP, 16GB RAM max, matte
> display, M.2 SSD slot (don't know if it can be used as boot device), and
> the rest of the usual - RJ-45, WiFi, Bluetooth, multicard reader, WWAN
> depending on the configuration. No idea about maximum supported monitors
> though.
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for a Good Outgoing SMTP Service

[Michael Tewner]

I can recommend SendGrid - They have Free Tier, Pay-as-you-go Lite Tiers,
and low-cost regular Tiers. We've been using them for a bunch of years,
now. They have great support; I had a Romania-based support guy help me
this morning, Israel time, who didn't just tell me call us later.

-Mike


On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Rabin,

 On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Rabin Yasharzadehe ra...@rabin.io
 wrote:

 If you ask for JUST for a smtp server to send out email, i don't see any
 reason why not to setup it your self, it is not that complicated. And from
 my experience, I rarely need to do any configuration/changes after the
 first setup.

 You can try using a VM/Droplet on DigitalOcean to test it,
 The only problem I can think of, is the IP reputation in spam list.


 Like we say in Hebrew, he who proliferates possessions, proliferates
 worries.. Assuming I had the technical know-how for how to setup a
 reliable SMTP server on a VM of my own (which I don't really), I will then
 have to maintain both the VM and the SMTP server, install updates, etc. And
 I'm not good at doing stuff like that.

 I asked for a paid SMTP service and that's what I want.

 Regards,

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Re: Something is injecting malware into my HTTP traffic

[Michael Tewner]

I'm seeing the same thing, that is, the downloaded files start to differ at
byte #4101

   - The HTTPS version downloaded quite fast on my 5Mbps connection. The
   HTTP one is taking forever, quite literally; it's stalled
   - I've tried adding Cache-Control: no-cache and Pragma: no-cache,
   but still getting the alternate file.

tcptraceroute shows that the HTTP is most probably being cached; First
using HTTP, then using HTTPS:

MacBook-Air:tmp $ tcptraceroute nodejs.org 80
Selected device en0, address 192.168.1.107, port 57585 for outgoing packets
Tracing the path to nodejs.org (165.225.133.150) on TCP port 80 (http), 30
hops max
 1  192.168.1.1  4.144 ms  1.739 ms  1.139 ms
 2  lo10.cab2.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.205.233)  15.141 ms  12.162 ms  11.659
ms
 3  core1-cab1-hfa.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.207.16)  15.204 ms  13.932 ms
 12.857 ms
 4  gw2-0-2-0-1-core1.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.7.25)  11.599 ms  12.655 ms
 16.048 ms
 5  165.225.133.150 [open]  157.406 ms  157.195 ms  168.028 ms

MacBook-Air:tmp $ tcptraceroute nodejs.org 443
Selected device en0, address 192.168.1.107, port 57586 for outgoing packets
Tracing the path to nodejs.org (165.225.133.150) on TCP port 443 (https),
30 hops max
 1  192.168.1.1  3.398 ms  1.755 ms  1.230 ms
 2  lo10.cab2.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.205.233)  11.704 ms  16.318 ms  11.138
ms
 3  core1-cab1-hfa.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.207.16)  14.981 ms  13.580 ms
 17.064 ms
 4  gw2-0-3-0-0-core1.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.7.53)  12.450 ms  14.393 ms
 10.653 ms
 5  10.10.40.1  12.454 ms  18.778 ms  14.951 ms
 6  gw2-fra-0-3-0-3-200-gw2.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.12.12)  67.772 ms
 68.099 ms  110.025 ms
 7  10.10.70.1  70.582 ms  76.711 ms  66.120 ms
 8  xe-4-3-2-302.fra23.ip4.gtt.net (77.67.94.5)  67.824 ms  66.694 ms
 97.753 ms
 9  xe-1-2-3.was14.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.180.198)  154.917 ms  167.244 ms
 168.940 ms
10  internap-gw.ip4.gtt.net (77.67.69.254)  164.903 ms  175.436 ms  158.257
ms
11  border10.pc2-bbnet2.wdc002.pnap.net (216.52.127.73)  156.724 ms
 153.793 ms  164.227 ms
12  joyent-3.border10.wdc002.pnap.net (64.94.31.202)  166.082 ms  163.434
ms  163.415 ms
13  165.225.143.105  163.860 ms  169.177 ms  154.384 ms
14  165.225.143.15  178.280 ms  152.575 ms  159.958 ms
15  165.225.133.150 [open]  157.337 ms  162.811 ms  164.262 ms



On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 7:48 PM, E.S. Rosenberg esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il
wrote:

 Depending on the version of windows and it's network environment you
 freshly installed rootkits could be likely, but that is OT here.

 Note that different ISP in Israel is a fairly relative statement since
 there are basically just a few major players who own a bunch of the smaller
 ISPs and could have caching proxies on their international lines...

 Did you traceroute the connection both from working and non-working
 settings?

 Regards,
 Eliyahu - אליהו

 2015-03-21 8:30 GMT+02:00 Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com:

 Just speculating, but could it be that your ISP uses a caching
 transparent proxy (which would explain why it doesn't happen on SSL) and
 its cache got corrupted?
 The other ISP case could be explained if it's actually
 upstream/downstream from your ISP, or they share a proxy cache for other
 reasons.


 On 21 March 2015 at 04:07, Roman Ovseitsev rom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please forgive the slight off-topic, but I am experiencing a rather
 strange issue while downloading a certain file over HTTP.

 Instead of getting node.js installer as expected from here
 http://nodejs.org/dist/v0.12.0/node-v0.12.0-x86.msi I am receiving a
 completely different executable - an installer for Elcomsoft's Advanced EFS
 Password Recovery whatever that is.

 Both files are exactly the same size but SHA sums obviously don't match.

 SSL version of the link -
 https://nodejs.org/dist/v0.12.0/node-v0.12.0-x86.msi works as expected.
 i.e. downloads the correct node.js installer.


 I have verified this on three different machines running Fedora, CentOS,
 and Windows. None of these machines ever exchanged any files or used
 anything else but the default repos. In fact the windows machine is a 13
 years old pc with a freshly installed OS. So presumably that dismisses any
 possibility of rootkits.

 It doesn't seems to be due to my router or ISP either. I am getting the
 wrong executable on two of my neighbours' Wi-Fi networks and at least one
 of them seems to be using a different ISP.
 However it doesn't happen on another Israeli nor a couple of US and UK
 servers I've tried so far.
 I am not using any proxies either.

 nodejs.org domain on all of the above resolves to the same IP.


 What's going on?
 Could be that the ISPs are the culprit?

 Considering that the application is relatively popular and I am the only
 one experiencing this issue it doesn't seem to be the case of nodejs.org
 server doing this on purpose (knowingly or not).

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Re: OT: Invoice sites in English

[Michael Tewner]

Does this do what you want? I know a few people on the team there:
https://www.invoiceninja.com/about

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Geoff Shang ge...@quitelikely.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Please forgive the offtopic post, but I figure someone here would know.

 I was recently told by my new accountant that I need to provide invoices
 ina form the Israeli government will approve, and not as text files as I've
 been doing so far (hey I'm a traditionalist).

 They pointed me to iCount.co.il and greenInvoice.co.il.  Unfortunately
 both of these sites are in Hebrew, and while GreenInvoice at least will
 allow me to produce invoices in English, the UI isn't and my Hebrew isn't
 good enough to use it.

 So I wondered if anyone else knew of somewhere that fits the Israeli
 government's requirements whilst having an English UI.

 Please feel free to reply off-list.

 Cheers,
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Re: geolocation in firefox

[Michael Vasiliev]

  
  
On 04/15/2014 11:55 PM, sara fink
  wrote:


  
Hello Everyone
  

I changed enable.geolocation to false in firefox, but it still
doesn't work with the site that I want to enter. I am still
redirected to israeli site instead of the abroad site. 
  

Also check what kind of Accept-Language header you're sending.

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Re: Feedback about HOT as an isp

[Michael Ben-Nes]

So now I use HOT for the infrastructure. I got the 100mbit download  2mbit
upload.
The line is stable and fast though I understand the quality changes from
place to place depending on the local infrastructure.

The latency to HOT speed test server is 17ms

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On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:54 PM, sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com wrote:

 I also recommended to others CCC as isp, None of them  complains.


 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:36 PM, geoffrey mendelson 
 geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 4/8/2014 4:14 PM, Amichai Rotman wrote:

 On the same subject:

 I am using Bezeq as infrastructure @ 15Mb and 014 as the provider at the
 same speed. Somehow I get a high latency when accessing sites, both in
 Israel and abroad.

 How can I check for the exact cause?

  As a guess, your latency is high because you are NOT paying for a
 better service package. The cheapest is the gamer's which will cut things
 down considerably. Last summer I changed my line from 012 with a gamer's
 package to CCC without. Latency is much lower.

 IMHO the program which is most affected by latency is BitTorrent.



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Re: Feedback about HOT as an isp

[Michael Ben-Nes]

The upload was great. True 3M in most reasonable Israeli servers. It was
slower to abroad but it its expected.

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 2014-04-03 15:55 GMT+03:00 Michael Ben-Nes m...@epoch.co.il:

 Well,
 The upload of 3mbit (of bezeq was great for backup and other uploads).
 Now I have 750k or so :(

 Was/is the upload truly 3M, as far as I know they promise best effort but
 rarely reach promised speeds especially in upstream speeds since most
 customers barely care about it, it more overbooked and lower priority.
 That said I also like having 1M or more upload when and where possible.

 The high DL is a big plus when I need to DL updates and big images

 And also important, the ping is reduced

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 esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.ilwrote:




 2014-03-08 12:20 GMT+02:00 Michael Ben-Nes m...@epoch.co.il:

 Oops, seems I missed the replies a bit.

 Any way. I used to have 50mb but after the storm something got wrong
 and now Bezeq can supply only 15mb.
 I checked with peers and it seems the HOT infrastracure in Rosh Pina is
 excellent. 15mb is by far not enough to any one who work on the net.

 You are making me really curious what I have been doing wrong for all
 these years that speeds above 5mb have been fine for me...

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 On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 6:11 PM, geoffrey mendelson 
 geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 1/5/2014 6:01 PM, Michael Ben-Nes wrote:

 Hi,

 Seems like I need to replace my unstable ADSL line :(

 Can any one tip me how good is the Hot cables 100mb service?
 stability\speed


 If it's 15 megabit or below, you've probably been upgraded to NGN. NGN
 uses vDSL equipment which can run (poorly) in aDSL-2 emulation mode.
 Instead of informing people of the problem, they just wait for them to 
 call
 and sell them a faster line in vDSL mode with a vDSL modem.

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Re: Feedback about HOT as an isp

[Michael Ben-Nes]

Well,
The upload of 3mbit (of bezeq was great for backup and other uploads). Now
I have 750k or so :(
The high DL is a big plus when I need to DL updates and big images

And also important, the ping is reduced

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On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 8:50 PM, E.S. Rosenberg esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.ilwrote:




 2014-03-08 12:20 GMT+02:00 Michael Ben-Nes m...@epoch.co.il:

 Oops, seems I missed the replies a bit.

 Any way. I used to have 50mb but after the storm something got wrong and
 now Bezeq can supply only 15mb.
 I checked with peers and it seems the HOT infrastracure in Rosh Pina is
 excellent. 15mb is by far not enough to any one who work on the net.

 You are making me really curious what I have been doing wrong for all
 these years that speeds above 5mb have been fine for me...

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 On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 6:11 PM, geoffrey mendelson 
 geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 1/5/2014 6:01 PM, Michael Ben-Nes wrote:

 Hi,

 Seems like I need to replace my unstable ADSL line :(

 Can any one tip me how good is the Hot cables 100mb service?
 stability\speed


 If it's 15 megabit or below, you've probably been upgraded to NGN. NGN
 uses vDSL equipment which can run (poorly) in aDSL-2 emulation mode.
 Instead of informing people of the problem, they just wait for them to call
 and sell them a faster line in vDSL mode with a vDSL modem.

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Re: Feedback about HOT as an isp

[Michael Ben-Nes]

Oops, seems I missed the replies a bit.

Any way. I used to have 50mb but after the storm something got wrong and
now Bezeq can supply only 15mb.
I checked with peers and it seems the HOT infrastracure in Rosh Pina is
excellent. 15mb is by far not enough to any one who work on the net.

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On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 6:11 PM, geoffrey mendelson 
geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 1/5/2014 6:01 PM, Michael Ben-Nes wrote:

 Hi,

 Seems like I need to replace my unstable ADSL line :(

 Can any one tip me how good is the Hot cables 100mb service?
 stability\speed


 If it's 15 megabit or below, you've probably been upgraded to NGN. NGN
 uses vDSL equipment which can run (poorly) in aDSL-2 emulation mode.
 Instead of informing people of the problem, they just wait for them to call
 and sell them a faster line in vDSL mode with a vDSL modem.

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Re: railsgirls

[Michael Vasiliev]

  
  
It could've
  been nice if the applications weren't already closed.
  
  On 02/11/2014 10:02 PM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:


  

  

  http://railsgirls.co.il/

  
  Pretty cool initiative, how was that never mentioned on
  this list, or have I been sleeping?
  

(I found it through this kickstarter which I think also
sounds very cool for anyone who would like their kids to
know programming: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lindaliukas/hello-ruby
even though I myself use other languages)

  
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Re: Chinese KitKat

[Michael Vasiliev]

  
  
Find an phone/electronics repair shop
  with an _infrared_ BGA rework station and an experienced tech to
  operate it. I would not go with hot air, as it's almost impossible
  to stay within the thermal profile of the chip when using hot air
  and the components in a cellphone are far too small and delicate
  for that method. Weigh your options wisely, as the number of times
  you can get away with re-heating the chip is very limited. Each
  try will use two of these valuable heating/cooling cycles, one to
  pull the chip up, and then one to seat it back on the (hopefully
  re-masked and re-balled) surface.
  
  On 01/06/2014 12:26 PM, Udi Finkelstein wrote:


  

  
The N900, at least the ones I have, start falling apart
  sooner-or-later due to GSM chip BGA solders getting loose
  (like the red-ring-of-death on Xbox 360).

The symptom is a yellow banner saying that all Telephony
functions are disabled.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66870
  
  I have 2 phones that suffers from this. One I got from a
  friend who couldn't get anyone to fix it (that was about 2
  years ago, when the cause was still unknown. The shop claimed
  he played with alternate firmware, he went to court and lost).

The other was mine, and it started about 3 months ago. I
partially fixed it by placing pieces of paper below the battery,
but the situation got worse and worse.
Also my USB socket is dead, which is another common N900
symptom, but is more easily fixable.


  
  


  
  On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 11:22 AM,
Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il
wrote:

  On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 11:14:58AM +0200,
E.S. Rosenberg wrote:

 Depends on the OS and it's support but yes... (my
n900 still has great
 support and if it wasn't falling apart as a result
of severe abuse
 would still be using it, but that's also a much
more open system,
 we'll see what happens with the Jolla now)

  
  The N900 is not really supported by its vendor. But
  there's a great
  community around it which has kept it supported. And if
  you've been
  living under a rock: see also http://neo900.org/
  .
  
  Get a phone you can trust.
  
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Re: Chinese KitKat

[Michael Vasiliev]

  
  
On 01/06/2014 02:26 AM, Oleg Goldshmidt
  wrote:


  Diego Iastrubni elc...@kde.org writes:


  
A sound advice - if you don't see the device you want to buy on
Cyanogen's list, don't buy it. In 2 years it will be useles if you
cannot put newer software on it.

  
  
Sounds a bit harsh. A device cannot possibly become less useful with
time than it was when you bought it (barring a HW malfunction). If it
did then what it says on the tin it will still do it now, won't it?
Without any new software...

Functionality that did not exist or was not supported when you bought
your device will not necessarily be backported to your device's original
firmware or to the official updates thereof. This does not render the
device useless, just potentially a bit less future-proof than others.

[I cannot give a compelling example of such functionality, but I can
imagine it might exist.]


Enter signed software. The certificate expires and nobody cares to
update the application and sign it again. The OS then refuses to
launch it. Case in point with my perfectly hardware-wise functional
Symbian Nokia phone. Since I don't believe I'm going to get a better
service from either IOS or Android, I just don't buy a new phone.


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Feedback about HOT as an isp

[Michael Ben-Nes]

Hi,

Seems like I need to replace my unstable ADSL line :(

Can any one tip me how good is the Hot cables 100mb service? stability\speed

Thanks,
Miki

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Re: [YBA] High-end DSL modem

[Michael Tewner]

Shavua Tov!

This may not be in the spirit of Linux-IL, but I was able to solve a lot of
DSL annoyances by moving our small office to a Cisco 800-series ADSL+WiFi
(provided as part of their BizNet service). The router performs rock-solid
with uptime measure in years (assuming you never update it...) and routing
works exactly as you'd expect, no-nonsense. If you don't have someone
on-site with Cisco experience, Bezeq will manage it for you as part of the
BizNet service (which also has faster upload-speed options than otherwise
available).
I'm not saying that this is an equivalent solution to DD-WRT (especially as
concerning Free as in Beer/Speech), but if you have a client experiencing
networking issues, as one professional to another, this may be a possible
solution.

Please don't throw any open-source tomatoes.
-Mike


On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:09 AM, E.S. Rosenberg esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.ilwrote:

 What do you mean by in-progress support? Recent routers that are
 supported generally get the latest builds too...

 I used to have a 841ND running OpenWRT until I bricked it with a
 botched upgrade and though it has recovery options as documented in
 the wiki I never had the time so I bought a 1043ND, with which I was
 pretty happy with stock so so far I have only made sure it's stock is
 up to date and not yet upgraded to openwrt.

 The 740N also supports OpenWRT and seemingly has some pretty cool
 features (for it's really low price) if your are willing to solder,
 but due to low memory you may not be able to have a Web interface with
 OpenWRT (at least not on initial flash, you can install it
 afterwards).

 Those are the models I have touched (and are widely available here in
 Israel), have a look here:
 http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/start

 Regards,
 Eliyahu - אליהו


 2013/12/8 Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il:
  Hi Eliyahu,
  Do you have a model number? The only one I could find was the TD-W8970
 with
  in-progress OpenWRT support.
  Thanks,
 
   - yba
 
 
  On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
 
  Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 00:02:14 +0200
  From: E.S. Rosenberg esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il
  To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
  Cc: ILUG linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
  Subject: Re: [YBA] High-end DSL modem
 
 
  Use a simple 1-port ethernet modem with a decent router attached to
  it, for instance a TP-Link which is sold in most computer stores here
  and most models have support ranging from decent to excellent of
  openwrt.
 
  Regards,
  Eliyahu - אליהו
 
  2013/12/7 Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il:
 
  Dear colleagues,
  I am looking for a good quality DSL modem or WAP with DSL modem that
  supports OpenWRT in Israel. Any suggestions? Price is not an issue.
 
  The problem that I am trying to solve is PPTP client connections from
  behind
  the modem being blocked because the cheaper DSL modem that I am using
  (D-Link DSL-2500U Russian version) does not seem to be able to forward
  GRE
  (only TCP, USD or both) in virtual server mode and cannot NAT GRE in
  DMZ
  mode.
  Shavua tov and TIA,
 
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Re: Lime - an open source Sublime Text clone

[Michael Shiloh]

I too have heard of people preferring Sublime, so it's good to hear of 
an open source Sublime Text clone.


On 12/01/2013 11:26 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote:

Hi Matan,


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Matan Ziv-Av ma...@svgalib.org wrote:


On Sun, 1 Dec 2013, Shlomi Fish wrote:

  Hopefully, it will be another step toward eliminating the open

source community’s reliance on proprietary tools.



?



Well, if by ? you mean What do you mean?, then for your information,
some people with whom I interacted on Freenode ( http://freenode.net/ ) and
elsewhere have opted to use the Sublime Text editor due to it proving
attractive for them, despite the fact that it was not open source. So in a
way it involved a reliance on non-open-source (or so-called proprietary)
tools by the community.

I personally avoided Sublime Text from the simple reason it was not open
source - see what I wrote about it here -
http://shlomif-tech.livejournal.com/65226.html .

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Re: Fascinating story: How Munich rejected Steve Ballmer and kicked Microsoft out of the city

[Michael Vasiliev]

  
  
On 11/22/2013 09:32 PM, Michael Shiloh
  wrote:

[story]

I would say that the hidden part of the iceberd is that the city
budget money went to local service providers, mostly immediately
returning into German economy as taxes and payroll, intead of being
pumped into Microsoft's offshore tax evasion scheme.

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Re: Fascinating story: How Munich rejected Steve Ballmer and kicked Microsoft out of the city

[Michael Shiloh]

On 11/23/2013 03:53 PM, Michael Vasiliev wrote:

On 11/22/2013 09:32 PM, Michael Shiloh wrote:
[story]

I would say that the hidden part of the iceberd is that the city budget money
went to local service providers, mostly immediately returning into German
economy as taxes and payroll, intead of being pumped into Microsoft's offshore
tax evasion scheme.


that's a really good point

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Fascinating story: How Munich rejected Steve Ballmer and kicked Microsoft out of the city

[Michael Shiloh]

 the LiMux
project.

The authority doesn't have a support deal for the LiMux client, but instead
handles support itself with the help of various free software communities,
such as those supporting Ubuntu, KDE, LibreOffice and OpenOffice.

We are using the community way of support, said Hofmann. We are finding
it to be effective, mostly.

The model is allowing the council to help develop the software it uses in
order that it better suit its needs.

If you're only a customer with a support contract, it doesn't give you the
ability to change how things are put into Ubuntu or LibreOffice, said
Hofmann.

That becomes more possible when you work with the community.

We are using the community way of support. Peter Hoffman

The same staff who develop LiMux are also responsible for the last level of
support, Hofmann said, adding the authority prizes the freedom it has to
work out how to resolve problems on its own.

We had an issue with OpenOffice in the past and a support contract
wouldn't have helped us because nobody else has this sort of problem, so we
would have had the choice to live with it or forget about it, said Hofmann.

Instead Munich paid a company to resolve the issue for them, and put the
patch upstream.

The only downside is there's no-one to blame when things do go wrong, but
what's the advantage of that? Hofmann said.
What does the future hold?

Now that the migration to LiMux is complete, Munich plans to continue
developing LiMux (the next version is due out in summer 2014) and continue
to incorporate changes made to the Ubuntu LTS release it's based upon. The
authority will also continue to identify opportunities to migrate other
apps to run on the LiMux client so it can further reduce its Microsoft
footprint.
[image: Picturesque Munich]
Picturesque Munich is regularly ranked as one of the world's most liveable
cities.
 Image: iStockphoto/Björn Kindler


Now that Munich is on a path to freeing itself from proprietary ties,
Hofmann says he sees no compelling reason for the authority to ever go back.

We saw from the start that if you're only relying on one contributor to
supply your operating system, your office system and your infrastructure,
you're stuck with it. You have to do what your contributor tells you to. If
they say 'There's no longer support for your office version', you have to
buy and implement a new one. You're no longer able to make those kinds of
decisions by yourself.

He is hopeful that Munich will show other large organisations that it is
possible to make the jump to free software and, while it is a difficult and
time-consuming process, making it happen doesn't mean shutting down your IT.

It's the best thing you can do. I've been asked 'How come you say you're
up and running when Microsoft says you're already dead', he said.

Hofmann's response: It is possible to do an open source migration and
still have the citizens not left alone. We're far from being dead.

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-munich-rejected-steve-ballmer-and-kicked-microsoft-out-of-the-city/?tag=nl.e101s_cid=e101ttag=e101ftag=TRE684d531


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Re: OT: Where do I buy battery cells?

[Michael Vasiliev]

ne to repack a battery for you there (the
turnaround of the service is usually about a week). The best forum
dealing with battery repair is www.avalon.co.ua, you can find
where the repair labs of the members are located. It is in Russian,
but some people do manage to have a conversation there using online
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Re: password managers

[Michael Shiloh]

does lastpass automatically sync between these devices? that would be 
worth $12/year for me, since Ubuntu One is not always reliable on my phone.


On 09/03/2013 06:12 AM, Amos Shapira wrote:

I use lastpass for all of them (Linux desktop, OSX laptop, Android phone).
Worth the $12/year.


On 3 September 2013 04:43, Michael Shiloh michaelshiloh1...@gmail.comwrote:


It's also important to consider smart phone access. I use password gorilla
on my ubuntu laptops, passwdsafe on my android, and i sync the common
database via ubuntu one.

On 09/02/2013 04:49 AM, ronys wrote:


plug
PasswordSafe http://pwsafe.org, while mainly developed for Windows,
has usable
buildshttps://sourceforge.**net/projects/passwordsafe/**
files/Linux-BETA/0.91/https://sourceforge.net/projects/passwordsafe/files/Linux-BETA/0.91/

for

deb  rpm distros. Artistic
License 2.0 http://www.opensource.org/**licenses/artistic-license-2.0.**
php http://www.opensource.org/licenses/artistic-license-2.0.php.
/plug
disclaimerI'm the admin/lead developer of PasswordSafe/disclaimer


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wrote:



On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Go sign up for Lastpass, my entire office is now using it. I lets you

set up individual passwords for every site, and they are encrypted
locally.



And remotely (on there servers)

P.S,

You can use it with Firefox on you mobile device (as firefox addon),
just a note, that if you set the Password Iterations too high (5000 by
there recommendation)
it will increase Firefox loading time significantly


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Re: password managers

[Michael Shiloh]

your comment refers to SuperGenPass and not to lastpass, correct?

On 09/03/2013 02:49 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:

Yes it could be good enough for most non-critical web sites but since all
these auto generated passwords are only as strong as your master password,
I still wouldn't use it for the really sensitive stuff like financial
accounts etc. For these I generate unique random passwords, memories them
and back them up in lastpass with a very strong master password.
On 04/09/2013 3:22 AM, shimi linux...@shimi.net wrote:




On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Michael Shiloh 
michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com wrote:


does lastpass automatically sync between these devices? that would be
worth $12/year for me, since Ubuntu One is not always reliable on my phone.



SuperGenPass is a JavaScript bookmarklet, that runs on every modern
browser, and doesn't need to sync anything; It simply generates the same
password for the same domain based on the same master password, locally on
your device. Price: $0/year. There's even a Hebrew version which I
translated (pass.shimi.net)

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password managers (was: Re: Watch out for Bezeq

[Michael Shiloh]

It's also important to consider smart phone access. I use password 
gorilla on my ubuntu laptops, passwdsafe on my android, and i sync the 
common database via ubuntu one.


On 09/02/2013 04:49 AM, ronys wrote:

plug
PasswordSafe http://pwsafe.org, while mainly developed for Windows,
has usable
buildshttps://sourceforge.net/projects/passwordsafe/files/Linux-BETA/0.91/for
deb  rpm distros. Artistic
License 2.0 http://www.opensource.org/licenses/artistic-license-2.0.php.
/plug
disclaimerI'm the admin/lead developer of PasswordSafe/disclaimer


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Rabin Yasharzadehe ra...@rabin.io wrote:



On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:


Go sign up for Lastpass, my entire office is now using it. I lets you
set up individual passwords for every site, and they are encrypted
locally.



And remotely (on there servers)

P.S,

You can use it with Firefox on you mobile device (as firefox addon),
just a note, that if you set the Password Iterations too high (5000 by
there recommendation)
it will increase Firefox loading time significantly


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Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] Command-line utilities: Tips and tricks (part II) -- Eli Billauer

[Michael Shiloh]

On 08/18/2013 02:08 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:

Some of the odd corners of shell syntax are quite useful in interactive
usage.  For example:

% (){ foo $1 bar } 24
to run a command several times (recalling it from history) and change
some parameter around the middle of the command line without having to
scroll to it every time.



wait, can you explain  this?

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Re: [HAIFUX LECTURE] Command-line utilities: Tips and tricks (part II) -- Eli Billauer

[Michael Shiloh]

So very true. I feel the same way about vi, which I've been using since 
I was a student in 1979, and still feel that I only know about 20% of it.


Wish I could attend too. If there is a summary or writeup of any kind 
please share.


Michael

On 08/17/2013 03:46 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:

Good on you.

It's funny how infinite is the ocean of command line utilities, e.g. as a
long time user of the command line:
1. I only learned about grep -r 8 years ago (in my first workplace in
Australia)
2. I only discovered that less -R (capital R) is much better for
viewing and searching colorised text files than less -r (lower case r)
a couple of weeks ago.
3. two days ago I found how to make awk access environment variables
(through ENVIRON[VARIABLENAME]), though I knew what I was looking for.
4. Only a short while ago I learned a trick to script echo line 
root-only-writable-file by replacing it with echo line | sudo tee -a
root-only-writable-file.

And the list goes on and on.

The take away? Command line veterans can also benefit and enjoy such a
meeting by learning and sharing their own knowledge. Wish I could attend.



On 18 August 2013 03:09, Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il wrote:


On Monday, August 19th at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear a talk by Eli
Billauer:

Command-line utilities: Tips and tricks (part II)

Command-line utilities is the real power of a Linux computer, and yet
there's always a few useful utilities that even an experienced Linux user
doesn't know about. This meeting is dedicated to going through several
random utilities, some of which are less known, others are known but have
surprising possibilities.

The range goes from things as simple as using touch to fake a
modification date to using ssh for surfing the web (with your browser) as
if your computer was in another country.

No previous knowledge is required. Even though newbies will gain the most
of this meeting, there is also room for those more familiar with the shell
prompt. Those who want to take the stand for a few minutes to talk about a
utility are welcome, of course.

There will be no slides during this meetings, just a shell window for
demonstrations.

For the list of suggested topics that may or may not be covered:

http://haifux.org/lectures/**305/ http://haifux.org/lectures/305/

==**==**=

We meet in Taub building, room 6. For instructions see:
http://www.haifux.org/where.**html http://www.haifux.org/where.html

Attendance is free, and you are all invited!

==**==**==
Future lectures:

02/09/13 You  The Biometric Database: Jonathan J. Klinger


==**==**==

We are always interested in hearing your talks and ideas. If you wish to
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interested in, please contact us at webmas...@haifux.org

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Re: ebay sidebar in new firefox stopped working

[Michael Vasiliev]

 On Monday 18 March 2013 01:14:39 sara fink wrote:
 
 I installed the new version of firefox 19.0.2 and the ebay sidebar search 
stopped working. If I type the url ebay.com in the address bar,  it works. 
Someone knows the source of this problem and how it can be fixed? 

I don't use it. However, this seems to be an extension. If it is disabled due 
to version incompatibility, you can unpack the xpi file and override the 
compatibility string. If the API hadn't changed, this, at least temporarily, 
fixes the problem. Otherwise, you will have to either wait for a new add-on 
version that will support your Firefox version, or patch the scripts yourself.

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Re: [YBA] Linux on Intel R1000GZ

[Michael Vasiliev]

For any distribution, I would suggest you not rely on the installer to do any 
kind of helpful work on your part when it comes to new or exotic hardware. I 
have a few years of experience making RAID cards work and it practically 
always requires manual intervention. Be it to make the array bootable or marry 
the working configuration with the update scripts. It always requires deep 
understanding of which driver operates your card, which firmware is loaded and 
by which script, and what the package post and preinstall scripts will do when 
said package is upgraded. The best advice I can give is once it works, be sure 
to backup the entire bootchain, the kernel drivers, startup scripts, firmware 
and fw loading scripts, everything. Not once the update would make the system 
unbootable or arrays inavailable.

As for initial startup, I usually go with booting just about any LifeCD that 
is able to detect the RAID, then unpack the basic set of the desired distro's 
packages manually into a root directory, then start working on boot sequence, 
taking notes in the process. It's somewhat more time-consuming, but the 
advantage is a steady pace of progress towards a working setup, as opposed to 
taking pot shots in the dark, trying different distros and versions and hoping 
for a lucky break. If a distro or LiveCD works, take notes of kernel, drivers 
and RAID configuration, version numbers and loading mechanism, then recreate 
the same with the distro you want. Distros shipping bad/buggy firmware is 
definately not something unheard of.

On Monday 25 February 2013 07:49:51 Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
 Hi Linux-IL colleagues,
 Last night I installed CentOS 6.3 on an Intel R1000GZ server.
 
 My intent at first was to install Debian Wheezy, but I was unable to find
 information on drivers for Debian that support either the RSTe or ESRT2
 (LSI) configuration of the RAID card.
 
 So after giving up on Wheezy I tried to install Ubuntu 12.04 desktop. This
 distribution detected the RAID in RSTe configuration, but apparently not
 correctly since at the end of the installation it was unable to install
 grub anywhere.
 
 It seems that Intel only supports RHEL and Oracle Linux on the R1000GZ
 servers, so my third option, which succeeded, was to install CentOS 6.3
 with the BIOS RAID in RSTe configuration.
 
 The reasoning behind not trying harder to find a solution for Wheezy
 is that by using a base OS that supports the board OOTB I will have a
 better chance of getting automated notification of updates for the RSTe
 drivers and any other proprietary drivers without manual searching. In any
 event, I only intend to use the CentOS as a host OS for other mostly
 Debian-based OS's. Is this reasoning sound, or am I a wimp for giving up
 on Wheezy? In general, would installing the base OS that best fits the
 board regardless of other (mostly ideological) considerations be the best
 advice to customers, considering the support implications? (I am assuming
 that selecting the board for the OS is not, in general, an option.)
 
 Purim Sameah,
 
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Re: Driver for Canon Pixma MX375 All in one

[Michael Shiloh]

Have you tried the 360? Often when my printer number doesn't show up I 
chose the closest one, and usually that works fine.


On 03/03/2013 07:48 AM, David Suna wrote:

I recently purchased this printer and it is installed and connected to a Windows
machine on my network.  I would like to allow the Ubuntu machine on the network
to print to this printer as well.  The list of printers in the drivers list
shows the Pixma MX360 series but not the MX370 series.

What is the easiest way to install the driver for the 370 series (since it does
seem to exist) so that I would be able to use this from the Ubuntu machine?

Thanks,

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Re: Raspberry PI questions

[Michael Shiloh]

another local vendor: dan electric

http://www.dan-e.co.il/index.php?route=product/searchfilter_name=raspberry%20pi

On 02/25/2013 08:28 AM, Moish wrote:

On 25/02/2013 10:58, vordoo wrote:


On 2013-02-24 16:33, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Does anyone know of a company selling them here? I'm looking for them
with a reasonable price, e.g. board, cheap shipping and VAT, as
opposed to board and expensive shipping from out of the country.

Second question, which I can't quite find an answer, does the model B
have 2 separate USB ports, or one USB port spilt with an on board hub?

Thanks in advance,

Geoff.

http://www.lion.co.il/h?q=RASPBERRY+PI

http://whatsup.org.il/index.php?name=PNphpBB2file=viewtopict=57647postdays=0postorder=aschighlight=raspberry+pistart=60



I bought from Element14 USA and shipped within USA and the total was 44$
while the base price is 35$  :)
They insisted on charging 2.79 tax although they reside in NJ and I
shipped it to PA.
Anyway, you can have an idea about the cost.

PS stash it with your other electronic devices in your checked baggage
otherwise you may experience some unpleasent encounters :)

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Re: Raspberry PI questions

[Michael Shiloh]

If you're not in a rush, I can bring it with me in a couple of weeks. 
I'm coming for the mini maker faire at jerusalem science museum.


Let me know.

Michael

P.s. Mouser has a distributor in Israel. Do they carry the pi?

On 02/24/2013 01:12 PM, Lior Okman wrote:

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson 
geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:


Does anyone know of a company selling them here? I'm looking for them with
a reasonable price, e.g. board, cheap shipping and VAT, as opposed to board
and expensive shipping from out of the country.

Second question, which I can't quite find an answer, does the model B have
2 separate USB ports, or one USB port spilt with an on board hub?



As far as the hardware is concerned, you can connect two USB cables.

When I run lsusb, there is only one USB hub detected:

pi@raspberrypi:~$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0424:9512 Standard Microsystems Corp.
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:ec00 Standard Microsystems Corp.
pi@raspberrypi:~$


Hope this helps




Thanks in advance,

Geoff.
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Is Linux-IL involved in the mini maker faire in jerusalem next month?

[Michael Shiloh]

Might be an opportunity for exposure

 http://maker-faire.org.il/

and

http://maker-faire.org.il/history

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Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] Flash Friendly File System (F2FS) - Leon Romanovsky

[Michael Vasiliev]

On Saturday 09 February 2013 18:21:35 Eli Billauer wrote:
 On Monday, February 11th at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear a talk by
 Leon Romanovsky:
 
 Flash Friendly File System (F2FS)

Has anyone recorded this one? For some reason, I thought it will be next week.

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Re: languages in ubuntu

[Michael Vasiliev]

 On Thursday 31 January 2013 19:09:00 E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
 
 This has been bugging me for ages:
 
 On all my ubuntu systems some form of chinese seems to be installed

How did you arrive at this conclusion?

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Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

[Michael Shiloh]

mAh is a measure of the capacity to deliver that voltage.

You know a battery doesn't last forever. If you suck a lot of current 
out of it, it will empty sooner. If you suck only a little current, it 
will last longer.


mAh is milli Amp Hours, so a 1500 mAh cell can deliver 1500 mA for one 
hour, or 150 mA for 10 hours, etc.


In reality it is not a perfectly linear relationship, but it is a useful 
number for reference and comparison.


HTH,
Michael

On 01/08/2013 07:27 AM, vordoo wrote:


On 2013-01-05 21:53, Shlomo Solomon wrote:

Ther are cheaper ones on e-bay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2800mAh-External-Backup-Battery-Charger-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-GT-N7000-i9220-/110787029613?pt=PDA_Accessorieshash=item19cb6bea6d

I have a similar one marked as 1500 mAh that gives my Galaxy S a 50-60%
charge. So since this is marked 2800 mAh, I'd guess it would give a
full charge. And it's only $11, including shipping to Israel.

What does the mAh have to do with a full charge? I though that was a volt thing.



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Re: SSD drives

[Michael Shiloh]

On 01/03/2013 05:25 AM, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
 There is an additional

instruction, RDSEED, that is supposedly truly random, but, as I
mentioned, I have not seen an explanation of why it is or how it
works.


perhaps they use radioactive decay? Scroll down to Geiger Counter at:

http://www.sparkfun.com/news/782

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Re: SSD drives

[Michael Shiloh]

On 01/03/2013 07:21 AM, Nadav Har'El wrote:

On Thu, Jan 03, 2013, Michael Shiloh wrote about Re: SSD drives:

perhaps they use radioactive decay? Scroll down to Geiger Counter at:


There's an inherent conflict between the number of bits of randomness you
can get out of this process, and the safety of the operator ;-)




always with the tradeoffs.

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Re: hebrew (or arabic) transparency to call up when i forget key location?

[Michael Shiloh]

never occurred to me that it might be built-in:

the menu that lets me select layouts also includes a layout map!

perhaps not quite as convenient as a hot key, but perhaps that's better, 
as it will encourage me to memorize the keyboard.


thanks for the tip!

On 12/30/2012 11:53 PM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:

Have you tried to see what happens when your layout is set to
Hebrew/Arabic, if the feature is to help you know where the keys are
then it should show in those languages when the keyboard is set to
that layout.

Though it may also be meant as a touch-screen feature allowing for
easy super+[key] combinations where super is the only key on the
touchscreen device, in which case it will only show English.

Regards,
Eliyahu - אליהו

2012/12/30 Michael Shiloh michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com:

i just found a nice feature in Unity (new to me at least): press and hold
the special key for a semi-transparent overview of keyboard shortcuts,
great for jogging the memory.

such a transparency of the hebrew (and arabic) keyboard would help me learn
to type in hebrew, as i have only english letters on my keycaps.

does such a thing exist?

if not, i'd like to make my own: hopefully i can find one already in source
form and give it the correct properties, then figure out how to bind a key
to display it.



any thoughts appreciated.

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hebrew (or arabic) transparency to call up when i forget key location?

[Michael Shiloh]

i just found a nice feature in Unity (new to me at least): press and 
hold the special key for a semi-transparent overview of keyboard 
shortcuts, great for jogging the memory.


such a transparency of the hebrew (and arabic) keyboard would help me 
learn to type in hebrew, as i have only english letters on my keycaps.


does such a thing exist?

if not, i'd like to make my own: hopefully i can find one already in 
source form and give it the correct properties, then figure out how to 
bind a key to display it.




any thoughts appreciated.

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Re: Hardware Database

[Michael Shiloh]

Seems like a great idea to me.

On 12/27/2012 05:05 AM, Amichai Rotman wrote:

Hello,

It would've been nice to start a website where people could refer to to
find out all the practical issues of installing / using FLOSS in Israel:

* A hardware DB where they can look up a device by category (i.e.
Motherboard) and check the compatibility sorted by distro etc.

* A list of Israeli Linux friendly vendors (including vendors outside
Israel that are willing to ship their products to Israel hustle free).

* Distro specific Installation Guides, pointing out any common pitfalls.

Such sites might exist out there in the Net, but none of them are Israeli
  specific or in Hebrew and don't hold all the a fore mentioned features in
one place...
Another plus is the fact that the content will be socially contributed - by
the users themselves.

What do you think?

   Amichai Rotman
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Re: Motherboards for new Ubuntu install

[Michael Shiloh]

Is there a chance Ivory would let you boot their computers (assuming 
they have an assembled computer with one of these motherboards) with a 
live CD?


On 12/26/2012 02:35 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Baruch Siach bar...@tkos.co.il wrote:

See the list of currently (as of version 3.8-rc1) supported PCI IDs of Atheros
GbE Ethernet devices in drivers/net/ethernet/atheros/atl1e/atl1e_main.c,
drivers/net/ethernet/atheros/atl1c/atl1c_hw.h and
drivers/net/ethernet/atheros/atlx/atl1.c. You'll need to access a running
machine to extract the PCI ID information, though, since Gigabyte's manual is
not very helpful.



I just wrote to Gigabyte to ask about UEFI and what is the PCI ID of
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Re: Motherboards for new Ubuntu install

[Michael Shiloh]

On 12/26/2012 03:02 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Michael Shiloh
michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a chance Ivory would let you boot their computers (assuming they
have an assembled computer with one of these motherboards) with a live CD?



I already asked, they would not.



!@#$%^*!

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Re: Motherboards for new Ubuntu install

[Michael Shiloh]

On 12/26/2012 03:11 AM, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Michael Shiloh michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com

wrote:





On 12/26/2012 03:02 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:


On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Michael Shiloh
michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com wrote:


Is there a chance Ivory would let you boot their computers (assuming they
have an assembled computer with one of these motherboards) with a live
CD?



I already asked, they would not.



!@#$%^*!



Don't be quick to curse: you may have made the right assumption before.
It's a Lego. If they need to order components (even from their own
warehouse) and assemble the computer for every customer to test that's a
significant effort for a very uncertain sale (from their prospective) to
9presumably) a walk-in customer with no relationship. The live CD trick is
reasonable if there is a brand - or otherwise standard - computer on the
shelf. Laptops are usually like that...



It's fair if they have none on the shelf. But if they have one built and 
connected to a monitor and keyboard, and still won't let you boot from a 
live CD, I would still curse (in my mind, not out loud).


Although to be fair I suppose if they let any yahoo who walked in with a 
CD and said let me just try this! they could be up to their ears in 
various  malware, so perhaps I shouldn't curse them at all.


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Re: anybody knows of a mifi i can run linux on ?

[Michael Shiloh]

http://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-TL-WR703N-Wireless-iphone4-android/dp/B005VEJ3GM

$30 on Amazon and takes openwrt directly:

http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wr703n

You do have to provide an external 3G modem on a USB stick but it's easy 
with the built in USB host port


Good luck!

On 11/19/2012 07:14 AM, Jason Friedman wrote:

You could try and build your own with a raspberry pi (which you can install
linux on) and a USB cellular modem, which seems to be possible:
http://shkspr.mobi/blog/2012/07/3g-internet-on-raspberry-pi-success/

You would need to attach a power source to the whole thing, but it would
still be relatively compact.

Jason


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Erez D erez0...@gmail.com wrote:


there are routers, e.g. the wrt54gl which i can ran openwrt on

however i am looking for a Mifi (i.e. cellular wifi) router which i can
run linux on.

anybody knows of such ?


thanks,
erez.


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Re: Crossover give away

[Michael Vasiliev]

 On Wednesday 31 October 2012 08:55:17 Ori Idan wrote:

 Have you noticed the following: 
http://www.codeweavers.com/about/general/press/20121029/

Yes.

 Did someone try it?
 
Yes. I was a happy customer of Crossover for years, until I forgot to renew my 
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Re: Wireless USB dongle

[Michael Shiloh]

excellent; thanks. that chip seems to be very well supported.

On 10/17/2012 02:43 AM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Michael Shiloh wrote:

do you know what the chipset and driver is?


The Chinese one is an RTL8191S.

The EdiMax RTL8187ZSE.

Both work fine out of the box on Ubuntu 12.04.

Geoff.



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Re: Wireless USB dongle

[Michael Shiloh]

do you know what the chipset and driver is?

On 10/16/2012 08:52 AM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Mordechai Behar wrote:

Hi
Can anybody recommend a wireless USB dongle that will work with
minimum fuss on Linux?
Specifically KDE running on Mageia 2 (kernel 3.3.8).
Where to buy it and how much it should cost? Does it work well?
Thanks.


If you are not in a rush, eBay item 320924766094. $10 including postage.
They include a 6dbi antenna, which extends the range, and gives you more
flexibility in positioning it.

If you are:

http://www.bug.co.il/prodtxt.asp?id=11235

Geoff.


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Re: How to Get the Combination of NTFS-3g and Konqueror (as a file manager) to consume less CPU

[Michael Vasiliev]

The ntfs-3g driver is not exactly the optimal thing for NTFS, it consumes a 
lot of CPU, the commercial version of this driver lifts that limitation.

On Thursday 30 August 2012 21:43:21 Shlomi Fish wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 ( I'm writing this message from my GMail.com account due to email
 problems from shlo...@shlomifish.org with respect to the Linux-IL
 mailing list. Please reply to the list so I'll get your messages in
 all of my accounts.)
 
 I have a laptop with the following specifications:
 
 «
 I also have an Acer Aspire 5738DZG laptop with the following specs:
 
 Intel Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4300 @ 2.10GHz. (x86-64).
 ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 4570 (r700)
 15.6״ 3D HD LCD Screen.
 3 GB Memory
 320 GB Hard Disk Drive.
 “DVD Super Multi DL drive”
 Acer Nplify™ 802.11b/g/n.
 
 »
 
 Now it dual boots between Windows 7 x86-64 (which I hardly use) and
 Mageia Linux 2 x86-64. Since I have a lot of space in my Windows 7
 partition, I decided to use it to store many of my music files, so
 they get stored at /media/win_d/Music/mp3 , which has this as its
 /etc/fstab
 entry:
 
 UUID=24A43690A4366488 /media/win_d ntfs-3g defaults,umask=022 0 0
 
 Now, if I view this directory using a tab of KDE-4.8.x's Konqueror in
 file manager mode (in order to select and drag and drop files to my
 media player), I see
 ntfs-3g constantly consuming roughly 18% of my CPU, which I suspect
 causes the laptop to overheat.
 
 I checked and ntfs-3g also consumes CPU if I run «ls -l
 /media/win_d/Music/mp3/» on the command line, so
 I guess that Konqueror constantly rescans that directory for detecting
 changes.
 
 Can anyone tell me how I can prevent Konqueror from consuming a lot of
 CPU this way?
 
 Regards,
 
 -- Shlomi Fish

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Re: which filesystem

[Michael Shiloh]

On 08/11/2012 12:28 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012, Erez D wrote about which filesystem:

hello

i have and external USB hard-drive size 2TB, mounted as ext4. (ubuntu 10.10
amd64)
every time there is a power failure. i need to do a manual fsck on this
disk. and this takes around an hour ...


I have a 2 TB disk with ext3, and I don't have anything close to the 1 hour
boots you report (even one minute looks excessive).

Both ext3 and ext4 are journalling filesystems, meaning that after power
failures, only a relatively small journal of the last modifications
needs to be replayed, rather than going through the entire disk.

Is it possible your filesystem for some reason has journalling disabled,
or improperly configured? Try tune2fs -l on your filesystem and look
for suspicious parameters. Look at Filesystem features and verify
there is has_journal. See that it doesn't force a full fsck every time
(Maximum mount count can very well be -1 and check interval 0).




Might also be the disk going bad - perhaps check with the S.M.A.R.T. 
utility smartmontools


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How can I explore what is causing my laptop to not come out of suspend properly when the lid is opened?

[Michael Shiloh]

For years I had been hibernating my laptop (Lenova T60 and now T61) 
instead of shutting down, and of course opening the lid did nothing 
until I pressed the power button. Besides the long amount of time it 
would take to come out of hibernation, this SEEMED to work fine, 
although sometimes I was presented with a login screen instead of an 
unlock screen, suggesting that I was booting up fresh rather than simply 
coming out of hibernation.


Recently I've learned that suspend is quite reliable and of course much 
faster. I suspend either automatically on lid closure, or manually, and 
come out of suspend automatically when I open the lid.


Occasionally, coming out of suspend fails. The power indicator light is 
on, as well as bluetooth and wifi. Wifi is even blinking occasionally, 
but I don't know what this means. The disc activity light is off.


The only keys that are recognized are the NmLk and the little lamp 
that lights up the keyboard. I suspect these are handled by a 
microcontroller running the keyboard and not the main processor.


Every other key and key combination I can think of is ignored, e.g. 
Ctrl Alt F1 etc. to get a console login.


I have tried closing and reopening the lid, applying and removing 
external power, and pressing every single key, along with every 
combination of Shift Ctrl and Alt, as well as the blue Fn 
button. Other than the numlock and keyboard lamp, nothing has any effect.


I have tried both hibernating automatically on lid closure, and 
hibernating manually prior to lid closure. The problem seems worse when 
I hibernate automatically, but this is not a terribly scientific conclusion.


I realize now that I may have been seeing the same problem when coming 
out of hibernation.


I recognize that the problem may not be been caused by a problem 
starting up, but rather, due to some error while hibernating or suspending.


What can I do to debug this? Any suggestions, comments, and ideas would 
be appreciated


Michael

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Re: How can I explore what is causing my laptop to not come out of suspend properly when the lid is opened?

[Michael Shiloh]

I forgot to mention I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 which I keep thoroughly up 
to date.


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On 06/20/2012 11:17 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote:

For years I had been hibernating my laptop (Lenova T60 and now T61)
instead of shutting down, and of course opening the lid did nothing
until I pressed the power button. Besides the long amount of time it
would take to come out of hibernation, this SEEMED to work fine,
although sometimes I was presented with a login screen instead of an
unlock screen, suggesting that I was booting up fresh rather than simply
coming out of hibernation.

Recently I've learned that suspend is quite reliable and of course much
faster. I suspend either automatically on lid closure, or manually, and
come out of suspend automatically when I open the lid.

Occasionally, coming out of suspend fails. The power indicator light is
on, as well as bluetooth and wifi. Wifi is even blinking occasionally,
but I don't know what this means. The disc activity light is off.

The only keys that are recognized are the NmLk and the little lamp
that lights up the keyboard. I suspect these are handled by a
microcontroller running the keyboard and not the main processor.

Every other key and key combination I can think of is ignored, e.g.
Ctrl Alt F1 etc. to get a console login.

I have tried closing and reopening the lid, applying and removing
external power, and pressing every single key, along with every
combination of Shift Ctrl and Alt, as well as the blue Fn
button. Other than the numlock and keyboard lamp, nothing has any effect.

I have tried both hibernating automatically on lid closure, and
hibernating manually prior to lid closure. The problem seems worse when
I hibernate automatically, but this is not a terribly scientific
conclusion.

I realize now that I may have been seeing the same problem when coming
out of hibernation.

I recognize that the problem may not be been caused by a problem
starting up, but rather, due to some error while hibernating or suspending.

What can I do to debug this? Any suggestions, comments, and ideas would
be appreciated

Michael


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Re: משחק להפיץ

[Michael Vasiliev]

On 05/22/2012 02:23 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

As probably most people on the list do, I try to get friends and
family off Internet Explorer. Recently on Slashdot there was mention
of a game that only works in Chrome:
http://getcrackin.angrybirds.com/

Angry Birds is a popular game, and just sending this link to people
gets most of them to install Chrome! So I encourage other list members
to suggest this game to friends and family. Don't even mention
Chrome, let them discover that detail on their own.

So how's getting them off one proprietary insecure browser and onto 
another is going to help them? Especially with the all-too-familiar 
tactics like it works only in our browser.


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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Resumed maintenance of libmikmod and mikmod.

[Michael Vasiliev]

That's awesome news, Shlomi. I'm sure in at least for testing :)

On 04/10/2012 04:50 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote:

To whom it may concern,

libmikmod is a portable and open-source (LGPLed) library for playing various
common formats of Module files, including MOD, S3M, XM, and IT. mikmod is a
Curses-based front-end for it, freely available under the GPL. Shlomi Fish would
like to announce that he resumed maintenance of libmikmod and mikmod, after many
years of lack of maintenance, after getting approval from Raphaël Assénat
(raphnet), the previous maintainer.

So far, libmikmod-3.2.0-beta3 has been released with some older changes that
lingered in the old version control repository, as well as several important
fixes for security bugs taken from the downstream Mageia Linux package.
The version control repository was converted from CVS to Mercurial, and more
development is expected.

Plans for the future include releasing a stable libmikmod-3.2.0 and afterwards
converting the build system from GNU Autotools to CMake, and then looking into
fixing more bugs as they are encountered and implementing new features.

The old MikMod homepage ( http://mikmod.raphnet.net/ ) now redirects to the new 
one at
http://mikmod.shlomifish.org/ where new development will take place (some parts 
of it still needs
to be updated, but it should already be usable).

Any contribution including testing, reporting bug fixes, contributing changes 
(as patches or as
clones of the repository), suggesting new features, will be appreciated.

For more information about module files see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_file

Regards,

Shlomi Fish




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Re: How do I disable NetworkManager in favor of dhcp setup?

[Michael Shiloh]

On 03/07/2012 08:47 PM, Shachar Shemesh wrote:

On 03/08/2012 12:21 AM, Micha wrote:

I believe I pinpointed the problem tp NetworkManager being installed and
enabled, which means that no network connection is actually configured
before a user is logged in.

No, it does not mean that at all. Simply set your eth0 connection to be
a system connection to resolve your problem.

On a wider note, I, too, used to hate Network Manager. It seemed like
such an over complication in relation to such things as:



/etc/network/interfaces doesn't exist, so I'm not sure how this is
supposed to be achieved these days (under debian it's still there, just
not active by default).

The thing that finally broke me in was the utter impossibility of
setting up a WPA connection without it. It was then easier to learn how
to live with it than to fight its installation (and, on Debian, all you
really have to do is uninstall it, and perhaps also avahi, which I still
hate).

The thing is, network manager brings unity (I know, bad pun) to an area
that used to diverge so much between the distributions. I can't really
call that a bad thing. Unlike what its reputation suggests, the global
configuration isn't so cryptic. Just create a text file under
/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections. Ugly uppercase apart - quite
straight forward. I'd like the GUI managers to be more consistent, but
that is really a minor quibble compared to the situation before NM.

Shachar


And what about those of us on embedded systems or others that offer only 
text-based interfaces? I'm trying to solve exactly this problem on a 
BeagleBoard via ssh, and can not use the GUI.


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Re: How do I start a blank x-server?

[Michael Vasiliev]

Have you considered using xvfb and vnc to it, or you absolutely have to 
do it on a real display?


On 02/27/2012 09:05 PM, Micha wrote:


For a project I'm working on at the moment, I need to be able to log 
in remotely to a machine (via ssh) and start a blank x-server. That 
is, to just initialize the display, with not cursor or window manager, 
to allow for creating a single full screen window for display.
I seem to recall that just running X as a user used to do it, up to 
the no cursor part, leaving an empty (hetched) screen and running the 
content of .xsession or something like that.
Things on modern systems seems to have changed enough with all the 
xsession / gdm / gnome etc. that it doesn't seem to happen properly.


Any idea how I can achieve that on a modern system (red hat enterprise 
desktop 6 in this case).


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Re: python, beagle, and gmail

[Michael Shiloh]

On 02/23/2012 11:05 PM, Michael Vasiliev wrote:

On 02/24/2012 12:56 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote:

2) How can I add SSL support to my version of imaplib, or is there a
version of imaplib for ARM that supports SSL?

Am I missing a totally obvious solution?


I'm corrupted. I'm pushing my favorite distribution as a solution to
every possible development problem. This said, you seem to have python
built without ssl support. You'll have to jump through whatever hoops
Angstrom has prepared for you to recompile or replace it. On the other
hand, Gentoo has an ARM target and you can tune and strip your system to
whatever your heart desires. That, of course, means adding a few trivial
lines to a single file and some recompiling.


you are certainly right about the hoops, and as a former gentoo user 
(and still love it), your solution is very appealing.


looking into it

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Re: python, beagle, and gmail

[Michael Shiloh]

On 02/23/2012 10:09 PM, Baruch Siach wrote:

Hi Michael,

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 02:56:58PM -0800, Michael Shiloh wrote:

2) How can I add SSL support to my version of imaplib, or is there a
version of imaplib for ARM that supports SSL?

Am I missing a totally obvious solution?


Have you considered stunnel?


yes, but sadly no stunnel for angstrom.

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python, beagle, and gmail

[Michael Shiloh]

Short version:

I'm using Python on a Beagle Board xM to read gmail using imaplib, e.g.

 http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/imaplib/

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6282976/download-parse-email-with-python

However, it turns out that

imaplib.IMAP4_SSL

is not present in the version of imaplib available for ARM on angstrom.

I'm not an expert in Python or Angstrom, so I turn to your collective
wisdom:

1) What's my quickest path to scriptable gmail access? Python seemed
obvious, but perhaps quicker alternatives exist.

2) How can I add SSL support to my version of imaplib, or is there a
version of imaplib for ARM that supports SSL?

Am I missing a totally obvious solution?

Thanks for any feedback,
Michael

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Re: how do I setup a red hat yum repository

[Michael Vasiliev]

Are you sure you can't make a chimera install by salvaging packages off 
corresponding version of Fedora? In case it's not the way, creating your 
own repository is surprisingly doable. Googling for yum repository 
gave me enough hints when I had to do that. You're looking at some 
maintainer work (editing specfiles and recompiling the source package) 
every time the dependencies for your packages change, however.


On 02/24/2012 12:44 AM, Micha wrote:


I was just given a red hat enterprise 6 system to setup for a project, 
only there is no repository setup on in and for this project I need 
pretty bleeding edge software and software that is not installed. 
Unfortunately for this project I come from a debian background so I 
have no knowledge of the red hat repository management world.


How do I setup a repository and which ones are available?

I need up to date boost libraries (1.46 and up) and hwloc at the 
moment, not sure yet what else.



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Re: [JOB] DevoOps and software engineers, lend me your brains!

[Michael Vasiliev]

On 02/22/2012 05:06 PM, Ira Abramov wrote:

We're a young dynamic consultancy firm with strong offerings in
cutting-edge devops magic, distributed systems design and automated
deployment and management, IAAS wrangling, etc.

We're looking for DevOps with or without cloud experience, expecially if
you're the kind of guy/gal who wears a CAP and mixes SQL with NoSQL juice for
breakfast. Send me your resume at ira(at)fewbytes.com.

Thanks,
Ira.


Awww, just signed a contract... :(
It would be exciting to work with you. It's been a while since we've met 
personally, but from the years of following your mail and twitter, you 
seem like an interesting person doing very interesting things.


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Re: python, beagle, and gmail

[Michael Vasiliev]

On 02/24/2012 12:56 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote:

2) How can I add SSL support to my version of imaplib, or is there a
version of imaplib for ARM that supports SSL?

Am I missing a totally obvious solution?

I'm corrupted. I'm pushing my favorite distribution as a solution to 
every possible development problem. This said, you seem to have python 
built without ssl support. You'll have to jump through whatever hoops 
Angstrom has prepared for you to recompile or replace it. On the other 
hand, Gentoo has an ARM target and you can tune and strip your system to 
whatever your heart desires. That, of course, means adding a few trivial 
lines to a single file and some recompiling.


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Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

[Michael Vasiliev]

On 02/15/2012 09:47 PM, Diego Iastrubni wrote:

On Monday, February 06, 2012 02:43:16 AM Oron Peled wrote:

You can find an example of this (refering to ODS):
   http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/05

Really? WTF? Linking to a document from 3 years ago? So, the wold of
propietary software stopped 3 years ago?

Did you check the status on modern office suits, or will you just link it
forever, being ignorant and thinking what is the best for you and not reality?

(crap, every time I say something rationable and smart a kitty dies, please
stop).
Diego, please. I think you're not doing justice to your own cause by 
writing that kind of meaningless flame mail. Honestly, I did not quite 
understand what that reply was about. The only thing I got is these blog 
posts are outdated. What have changed since then and how does that 
affect us? I think that building a case beyond throwing facts at the 
problem by adding some semantic connections and logic reasoning could 
aid in better conveying your message to us. Could you explain further in 
a calm and clear manner?


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