Hosting Recommendations - Take 2

2007-02-04 Thread David Suna
I sent this to the list once but only got one response for a service 
that is very expensive.  Using hosting services outside of Israel I can 
find shared hosting packages as described below for $5 - $10 per month.  
Does anyone know of Israel based hosting services that can compete with 
that?  I am willing to pay a little bit more but most of the prices I 
have heard about for Israel based hosting services is  $100 per month.



Thanks.


 Original Message 
Subject:Hosting Recommendations
Date:   Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:40:24 +0200
From:   David Suna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux-IL Mailing List linux-il@linux.org.il



Can anyone recommend a shared hosting service located in Israel with 
reasonable prices for a decent hosting package. 


Requirements for the hosting package include:


25 GB storage space


PHP / MySQL support

Good connection speed

Excellent uptime

Outstanding support

ASP support is an advantage

Able to provide references of current long term customers


To be honest, I usually do my hosting outside of Israel but for a 
particular client they are interested in specifically using a hosting 
service in Israel.



Thanks,

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Re: Hosting Recommendations - Take 2

2007-02-04 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 14:20 +0200, David Suna wrote:
 I sent this to the list once but only got one response for a service 
 that is very expensive.  Using hosting services outside of Israel I can 
 find shared hosting packages as described below for $5 - $10 per month.  
 Does anyone know of Israel based hosting services that can compete with 
 that?  I am willing to pay a little bit more but most of the prices I 
 have heard about for Israel based hosting services is  $100 per month.

  25 GB storage space

The 25GB storage is your undoing. Almost all web sites use less then 1GB
of storage, most less then 100MB (What are you planing to do with that
much storage space?), so 25GB is about as many as 20 or so web sites.
Also - with so much storage you probably intend to use a lot of
bandwidth, and that might also be a problem.

shameless plug
If you'll spring for a new harddrive for one of my systems (one time
expenditure), I'll be willing to offer a generous hosting proposal ;-)
/shameless plug

 Using hosting services outside of Israel I can 
 find shared hosting packages as described below for $5 - $10 per month.

I really doubt this statement is correct, considering the above
limitations and that outside Israel its very common to charge for
bandwidth usage (though I'd be more then happy if you can prove me wrong
and provide references: maybe I want to host there ;-). 

One of the cheapest hosting sites I know - nearlyfreespeech.net - will
charge you for the storage alone $25 per month, and if we assume 1GB
bandwidth usage per month (which sounds very low for a 25GB web site),
you'd pay additional $10 per month. Still not $100, but much closer then
the costs you quote above.

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Oded
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Re: Hosting Recommendations - Take 2

2007-02-04 Thread David Suna
One hosting service that I have started using recently that provides way 
more storage and bandwidth than I listed below is 
http://www.eboundhost.com/ (see 
http://www.eboundhost.com/hosting/shared/linux.php). They got very good 
customer reviews in the sites that I checked.  I have been relatively 
happy with them so far.  The support has been very responsive.



I have also been very happy using ICDSoft (www.icdsoft.com).  Their 
basic package doesn't include much storage space but as a reseller for 
them I can upgrade the package to include 20 GB of storage space.  With 
my reseller discount that comes out to  $10 per month.



For ASP support you tend to need to pay more.  One example of a service 
that provides ASP support and relatively large storage is 
www.3essentials.com.  For $10 per month you can get 13 GB and for $20 
per month you can get 28 GB.



As for the application, this is intended as a storage site for large 
files that will be downloaded by a small number of people.  Some of the 
files will be video files and some of the downloads will be streaming 
(or pseudo streaming).  You are right that most sites do not require 
anywhere near this amount of space and this actual project doesn't need 
it at the outset but may grow to need it.  Since I know that there are 
services out there that do this for a reasonable price outside of Israel 
I don't think the client should need to pay several hundred dollars per 
month for an Israel based solution.



Another important factor is having very good support.  I don't want to 
take on the responsibility of managing a VPS or a dedicated server.  The 
software I want to use is standard enough that I don't need to install 
my own packages.   So I want a solution that will make this rock solid 
without adding overhead to my work.


David Suna
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Oded Arbel wrote:

On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 14:20 +0200, David Suna wrote:
  
I sent this to the list once but only got one response for a service 
that is very expensive.  Using hosting services outside of Israel I can 
find shared hosting packages as described below for $5 - $10 per month.  
Does anyone know of Israel based hosting services that can compete with 
that?  I am willing to pay a little bit more but most of the prices I 
have heard about for Israel based hosting services is  $100 per month.



  

25 GB storage space
  


The 25GB storage is your undoing. Almost all web sites use less then 1GB
of storage, most less then 100MB (What are you planing to do with that
much storage space?), so 25GB is about as many as 20 or so web sites.
Also - with so much storage you probably intend to use a lot of
bandwidth, and that might also be a problem.

shameless plug
If you'll spring for a new harddrive for one of my systems (one time
expenditure), I'll be willing to offer a generous hosting proposal ;-)
/shameless plug

  
Using hosting services outside of Israel I can 
find shared hosting packages as described below for $5 - $10 per month.



I really doubt this statement is correct, considering the above
limitations and that outside Israel its very common to charge for
bandwidth usage (though I'd be more then happy if you can prove me wrong
and provide references: maybe I want to host there ;-). 


One of the cheapest hosting sites I know - nearlyfreespeech.net - will
charge you for the storage alone $25 per month, and if we assume 1GB
bandwidth usage per month (which sounds very low for a 25GB web site),
you'd pay additional $10 per month. Still not $100, but much closer then
the costs you quote above.

--
Oded
::..
Instructions for life:
14. Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk.




  


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