Re: Making sure Actcom lives on
On 30/01/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:51:41PM +0200, Random Penguin wrote: Rumor would have it that Bezeq Benleumi have purchased Actcom for the knowledge base and not the customer base. From a business perspective, this does make sense. Both in the press and when speaking to Actcom on the phone the current line is Everything will stay the same, only the ownership has changed. They apparently understand that any attempt to convert current Actcom customers to Bezeq Benleumi customers will only be met with a mass exodus. And you expect a company with BBL's customer service record, who's CEO hires a company to write a virus so that he can spy on other companies, will honor this? Quite frankly, they don't care. If 20% of Actcom's customers leave (which is very unlikely), they were the ones that generated 80% of the customer service calls. Most likley the number of Linux and UNIX (including Macintosh) customers is a few percent. If they can ditch them, they will make more profit, not less. Take for example, the recent YES/HOT debates. HOT, which is an independent company changed their decision and gave their customers what they want, YES, which is partly owned by BEZEQ (BBL is 100% owned by them) did nothing except tell their customers that what they will give them is what they will take. Geoff. What you say is reason enough to make such a petition. I'll even sign it in person if it's written in Haifa. Dotan Cohen http://iphone-wiki.com http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/47/b-52_s.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Making sure Actcom lives on
Hi all, Rumor would have it that Bezeq Benleumi have purchased Actcom for the knowledge base and not the customer base. From a business perspective, this does make sense. Both in the press and when speaking to Actcom on the phone the current line is Everything will stay the same, only the ownership has changed. They apparently understand that any attempt to convert current Actcom customers to Bezeq Benleumi customers will only be met with a mass exodus. However, even if one assumes genuineness in these statements, this makes no promise for the future. If at a later date Actcom's profitability were to fall, it might seem easier to the men in suits to assimilate the company's knowledge and customers than to try and restore the profitability, even at the risk of shedding many customers in the process. Can I suggest that before this can happen, we put together a petition of people who like myself, wish to continue to receive high-quality internet service from a company that supports Linux users and hosts the community's services for free. This may one day tilt the balance in our favor. The statement can be quick, simple and to the effect of: We the undersigned hereby declare that we are Actcom customers, and should we at any point feel that the quality of our internet service or its Linux support has been prejudiced by the interference in, or assimilation of the company into Bezeq Benleumi, will immediately cancel our contracts and move to an alternative provider. By the same token, should we continue to receive the same high quality service from the same people that we have become accustomed to up until now at a competitive price, we will remain satisfied customers. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making sure Actcom lives on
Who are you? - yba On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Random Penguin wrote: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:51:41 +0200 (IST) From: Random Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-il@linux.org.il Subject: Making sure Actcom lives on Hi all, Rumor would have it that Bezeq Benleumi have purchased Actcom for the knowledge base and not the customer base. From a business perspective, this does make sense. Both in the press and when speaking to Actcom on the phone the current line is Everything will stay the same, only the ownership has changed. They apparently understand that any attempt to convert current Actcom customers to Bezeq Benleumi customers will only be met with a mass exodus. However, even if one assumes genuineness in these statements, this makes no promise for the future. If at a later date Actcom's profitability were to fall, it might seem easier to the men in suits to assimilate the company's knowledge and customers than to try and restore the profitability, even at the risk of shedding many customers in the process. Can I suggest that before this can happen, we put together a petition of people who like myself, wish to continue to receive high-quality internet service from a company that supports Linux users and hosts the community's services for free. This may one day tilt the balance in our favor. The statement can be quick, simple and to the effect of: We the undersigned hereby declare that we are Actcom customers, and should we at any point feel that the quality of our internet service or its Linux support has been prejudiced by the interference in, or assimilation of the company into Bezeq Benleumi, will immediately cancel our contracts and move to an alternative provider. By the same token, should we continue to receive the same high quality service from the same people that we have become accustomed to up until now at a competitive price, we will remain satisfied customers. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- EE 77 7F 30 4A 64 2E C5 83 5F E7 49 A6 82 29 BA~. .~ Tk Open Systems =}ooO--U--Ooo{= - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il - = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making sure Actcom lives on
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:48:15PM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: Who are you? Probably the owner of ActCom. :-) Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making sure Actcom lives on
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:51:41PM +0200, Random Penguin wrote: Rumor would have it that Bezeq Benleumi have purchased Actcom for the knowledge base and not the customer base. From a business perspective, this does make sense. Both in the press and when speaking to Actcom on the phone the current line is Everything will stay the same, only the ownership has changed. They apparently understand that any attempt to convert current Actcom customers to Bezeq Benleumi customers will only be met with a mass exodus. And you expect a company with BBL's customer service record, who's CEO hires a company to write a virus so that he can spy on other companies, will honor this? Quite frankly, they don't care. If 20% of Actcom's customers leave (which is very unlikely), they were the ones that generated 80% of the customer service calls. Most likley the number of Linux and UNIX (including Macintosh) customers is a few percent. If they can ditch them, they will make more profit, not less. Take for example, the recent YES/HOT debates. HOT, which is an independent company changed their decision and gave their customers what they want, YES, which is partly owned by BEZEQ (BBL is 100% owned by them) did nothing except tell their customers that what they will give them is what they will take. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making sure Actcom lives on
Hi RP, What reason do you have to believe that your identity is worth stealing? - yba On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Random Penguin wrote: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:51:58 +0200 (IST) From: Random Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Making sure Actcom lives on Who are you? Probably the owner of ActCom. :-) Thanks for the compliment Geoff, but actually I am just paranoid about identity theft and archived lists. RP -- EE 77 7F 30 4A 64 2E C5 83 5F E7 49 A6 82 29 BA~. .~ Tk Open Systems =}ooO--U--Ooo{= - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il - = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]