[YBA] Sane supported document scanners with feeder in Israel
Dear colleagues,
I am looking for suppliers of sane-supported document scanners with
page feeders in Israel and info on what works, doesn't work.
TIA and Best regards,
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Re: [YBA] Sane supported document scanners with feeder in Israel
On 3/10/2014 11:06 AM, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: Dear colleagues, I am looking for suppliers of sane-supported document scanners with page feeders in Israel and info on what works, doesn't work. TIA and Best regards, I have had several different low end HP multifunction machines, the latest being a J4580 replaced by a J4500 and a 7500 and none of them are what I would call a good sheet feeder. They load one page at a time and it is easier than lifting the lid, but they always seem to misfeed, skew the paper or jam. 20 years ago I supervised the scanning of over a million pages using Fujitsu scanners, I'd love to see something like them. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ Jerusalem Israel. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Part of an email to Canon regarding Scanners
Some of my friends they think that Canon is behind other manufacturers in not supporting the major Linux distributions like Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Red Hat, Mandriva and Gnome. Your scanners that work excellently in Microsoft Windows and Apple Mac Computers are getting the thumbs down and lets buy elsewhere due to non existent support regarding drivers by Canon. Moshe Nothing like taking on the big boys is there? If other manufacturers can do it why can't they give Linux support for their products? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Fw: Re: Response from Canon - Scanners (KMM9629763V11238L0KM)
--- On Wed, 18/3/09, Canon Support - Scanner scan...@cits.canon.com wrote: From: Canon Support - Scanner scan...@cits.canon.com Subject: Re: Response from Canon - Scanners (KMM9629763V11238L0KM) To: Moshe Brace mbrace...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Wednesday, 18 March, 2009, 11:21 PM Dear Moshe Brace: Thank you for your inquiry. We value you as a Canon customer and appreciate the opportunity to assist you. While considering the desire to provide the best possible support for Canon's products, Canon must make decisions on which products to support when operating systems are introduced to the mainstream consumer market. Currently, Canon USA has decided to support only the Microsoft Windows and the Macintosh operating systems. We understand, and sincerely apologize for any frustration you have experienced if your are using another operating system, but we hope that you understand our rationale. Please note, it appears from your contact information that you are located outside the United States. If this is the case, you may want to contact the Canon support site for the region you are located in for further assistance and driver availability. Please visit www.canon.com for further assistance. We hope this information is helpful to you regarding your 3200F. Thank you for choosing Canon. Sincerely, Naomi Technical Support Representative Special Note: Certain issues are very difficult to resolve via email. If your question remains unanswered after you have received this email, you may call our special toll-free number for email customers with unresolved issues and speak to a technician* by dialing 1-866-261-9362, Monday - Friday 10:00 a.m. - 10:00 p.m. (excluding holidays). If you prefer to continue to communicate via email, reply to this message and we will respond as quickly as possible. *Telephone support for products no longer covered under the manufacturer's warranty may require a $9.99 fee for support. Original Message Follows: - Email Support Form Message Product Type: CanoScan 3200F Product Model: IslandData Session: Product Serial Number: UZC206363 Date of Purchase: First Name: Moshe Last Name: Brace Address: City: Israel State: Zip: 75300 Phone Number: Email Address: mbrace...@yahoo.co.uk EMAIL_ADDRESS_CONFIRM: mbrace...@yahoo.co.uk q01: USB2_Hi_Speed q02: Specify q04: Main_Unit_Setup INQUIRY: While this product works excellently with Windows XP Pro. I am writing to you to enquire if you know of or have a Linux driver that will work this CanoScan 3200F. I have read in various Linux forums that Canon products while being excellent are of little use whatsoever in Linux. I am surprised that a company like yours is neglecting a growing market of people who believe in your excellent products and are turning in droves to other manufacturers to instead of buying your products scanners, printers either separate or combined versions. I have so far read of quite a few that have done this in Linux forums and cursed the day they bought a Canon product. I use Mandriva 2009.0 Gnome Desktop which uses a .rpm for auto installation. Likewise does Red Hat and a few others. Do think about this or you will loose out to competitors. If you are not willing to create drivers at least promote a Linux enthusiast to make them for you. Yours Moshe ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Scanners
Thanks for the replies! I just parted with the princely sum of NIS 312 for a Canon Lide 25. Oh, well if it doesn't shape up, I can always put it on my wife's Windonkey. There are a couple of other similar supported cheapies like these: Genius 1200XE - NIS 243 Genius HR7 - NIS 389 Plustek 1200 - NIS 289 I suspect that the main differences are in quality of the electro mechanical components and scanning speed. Daniel Feiglin wrote: Hello folks! I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/ as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality. I find that hard to believe. The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or better, 48 bit color and A4 size. I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers. Regards, Daniel begin:vcard fn:Daniel Feiglin n:Feiglin;Daniel email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:972 9 8616204 tel;fax:972 9 8621052 tel;cell:927 52 3869986 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Scanners
El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 09:22 +0200, Daniel Feiglin escribió: There are a couple of other similar supported cheapies like these: Genius 1200XE - NIS 243 Genius HR7 - NIS 389 Be careful! There were a lot of concerns regarding Genius scanners at the Ubuntu forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1227071#poststop I remember to be asked to sign a petition to Genius regarding their scanners a month or so ago. Check out the SANE list before buying nothing! When the developers say¨ good¨ support usually it means not complete. http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=geniusmodel=bus=anyv=p= However the Genius HR7 seems to be well supported. Julian Plustek 1200 - NIS 289 I suspect that the main differences are in quality of the electro mechanical components and scanning speed. Daniel Feiglin wrote: Hello folks! I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/ as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality. I find that hard to believe. The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or better, 48 bit color and A4 size. I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers. Regards, Daniel -- Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scanners
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Daniel Feiglin wrote: I just parted with the princely sum of NIS 312 for a Canon Lide 25. Oh, well if it doesn't shape up, I can always put it on my wife's Windonkey. There are a couple of other similar supported cheapies like these: Genius 1200XE - NIS 243 Genius HR7 - NIS 389 Plustek 1200 - NIS 289 I suspect that the main differences are in quality of the electro mechanical components and scanning speed. More likely in the glue that holds the type label to the case imho. Notice that for the price of the Genius you can buy a HP all-in-one. (almost). Imho selling a no-name scanner for as much money as a name all-in-one is genius marketing. Thus the name is correct. I don't know about the rest. Also why aren't brand names like 'Dork' (vs. 'Genius') and 'Minustek' (vs 'Plustek') more popular. They certainly attract attention. Peter -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar -- -- Type: TEXT/X-VCARD -- File: dilogsys.vcf = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scanners
On 19/03/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about the rest. Also why aren't brand names like 'Dork' (vs. 'Genius') and 'Minustek' (vs 'Plustek') more popular. They certainly attract attention. Who said they aren't? What about Bug for a place to buy software or a defunct virus computer shop network? --Amos
Re: Scanners
I did two checks: I checked the Sane site for each item. I only paid attention to scanners with good or complete support, of which there were many. My problem was, which of them (within my nominated price/performance range) are available locally and from where. (Not many!) Your remark about the Genius problem was interesting, since the Sane list neither indicated difficulties, nor did it have a link to somewhere else for the models in question. As I pointed out earlier, I'm taking a punt on a Canon Lide 25 at NIS 312 (a tank of petrol?) which won't send me into bankruptcy. Julian Daich wrote: El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 09:22 +0200, Daniel Feiglin escribió: There are a couple of other similar supported cheapies like these: Genius 1200XE - NIS 243 Genius HR7 - NIS 389 Be careful! There were a lot of concerns regarding Genius scanners at the Ubuntu forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1227071#poststop I remember to be asked to sign a petition to Genius regarding their scanners a month or so ago. Check out the SANE list before buying nothing! When the developers say¨ good¨ support usually it means not complete. http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=geniusmodel=bus=anyv=p= However the Genius HR7 seems to be well supported. Julian Plustek 1200 - NIS 289 I suspect that the main differences are in quality of the electro mechanical components and scanning speed. Daniel Feiglin wrote: Hello folks! I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/ as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality. I find that hard to believe. The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or better, 48 bit color and A4 size. I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers. Regards, Daniel begin:vcard fn:Daniel Feiglin n:Feiglin;Daniel email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:972 9 8616204 tel;fax:972 9 8621052 tel;cell:927 52 3869986 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Scanners
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Amos Shapira wrote: On 19/03/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about the rest. Also why aren't brand names like 'Dork' (vs. 'Genius') and 'Minustek' (vs 'Plustek') more popular. They certainly attract attention. Who said they aren't? What about Bug for a place to buy software or a defunct virus computer shop network? You are right ... but both are (were) Israeli companies. The local sense of humour (and 'wholesomeness') is ... different from the norm elsewhere. Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scanners
Hello folks! I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/ as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality. I find that hard to believe. The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or better, 48 bit color and A4 size. I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers. Regards, Daniel begin:vcard fn:Daniel Feiglin n:Feiglin;Daniel email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:972 9 8616204 tel;fax:972 9 8621052 tel;cell:927 52 3869986 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Scanners
Imho, buy an all-in-one machine from HP etc. It all works great under Linux with cups hpijs and sane. The price is about $100. You get everything in one box (even a copier). Mine is a HP-1315 and I paid even less than $100 at Office Depot at the time (with rebate + it was a gift but that's beyond the point). Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scanners
On Sun, 2007-03-18 at 14:12 +0200, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Hello folks! I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is required. The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or better, 48 bit color and A4 size. I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers. From my experience, any simple USB scanner would do. I'm using a cheap Cannon LiD device (U1200 or something) which I bought for about 400 NIS a few years back - it should be about 300 NIS now, and I'm very happy with it. -- Oded ::.. Celine: If word got around that I had been liberated for half a million dollars, I could never show my face in polite society again. Diamonds have no value except that which is placed upon them. -- from 'A life less ordinary' = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scanners
On Sunday 18 March 2007, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Hello folks! I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/ as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality. I find that hard to believe. The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or better, 48 bit color and A4 size. I have a Canon CanoScan Lide 20 which has been working very well with my Mandriva system and XSane. CanoScan Lide 25 which is probably a similar model is available from http://www.plonter.com/ for 319 NIS and has a SANE driver. Regards, Shlomi Fish I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers. Regards, Daniel -- - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ Chuck Norris wrote a complete Perl 6 implementation in a day but then destroyed all evidence with his bare hands, so no one will know his secrets. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scanners
I've been using a Mustek 1200 UB for several years with no problems. Resolution is less than you specify (I think 600X1200), but for faxing and document scanning, it's more than enough. Even for OCR, I don't use the highest resolution. It sells for about 250 Shekels. NOTE that there is a similar model (Mustek 1200 UB Plus) that is also supposed to be supported by Linux (I haven't tried it), but I understand it's NOT as good (despite what looks like an improved version - plus). I do know that the plus version uses a different chip set, so it is a different beast. On Sunday 18 March 2007 20:26, Shlomi Fish wrote: On Sunday 18 March 2007, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Hello folks! I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/ as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality. I find that hard to believe. The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or better, 48 bit color and A4 size. I have a Canon CanoScan Lide 20 which has been working very well with my Mandriva system and XSane. CanoScan Lide 25 which is probably a similar model is available from http://www.plonter.com/ for 319 NIS and has a SANE driver. Regards, Shlomi Fish I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers. Regards, Daniel -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail (KDE 3.5.4) on LINUX Mandriva 2007 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scanners
On 18/03/07, Daniel Feiglin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks! I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/ as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality. I find that hard to believe. The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or better, 48 bit color and A4 size. I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers. Regards, Daniel I see that somwone else recommended an HP all in one. We have an HP 42555 all in one that we bought from p1000 for about 800 NIS. THe p1000 site doesn't work so well with Firefox, so I can't really recommend the site, but the printer is great, the fax is great, and the scanner is great. The printer and scanner work fine on FC6 and Kubuntu, even better than they did under XP. With XP, installing the drivers properly is a pain and it installs a ton of crap. Under KDE it just works. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virus-scanners for mail servers
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Installation turned out to be not as easy as I thought, I had some additional problems beside amavis poor documentation one. When CPAN/perl install creates directories it uses the umask I use (700) so no one could use my installed modules, don't forget to check your umask before installing any global perl modules. Installation was fairly easy. The docmentation is resonable. I'll have to try tinkering with it a bit so it will send in the warinng message to the virus sender the name of the suspected virus, and some other small details. The documentation is bad. I use the postfix content filtering. the daemon starts as root(?) postfix could not write to the socket. It was opened as 700 ( umask). I had to make it work as vscan user(more secure anyway). No scripts to start/close amavisd. empty headrs from infected messages, and then I noticed the log messages, and created such a directory that is writable by the vscan user. It's needed for more then just log, it's where the attachment are converted, unziped, unarjed etc.. Then the virus scanner kicks in and test the raw files. As I have mentioned in another post, I wanted to also check outgoing mail. The problem is that PostFix has no simple way to add a scanning by an external programs to all the messages in the queue. The content filter is simple. It would be nice If the docs would tell how the mail flows (postfix(port 25)- amavisd ( unix socket) - postfix(localhost port 10025) - delivery local remote) As long as you use smtp or postfix's sendmail script it will go into the scanner. Downsides: * complication (for instance: you now have to master processes) * resource consumption (not much, but I have to mention it ;-) Content filter is much better. You can limit the pipe forking and reduce the resource to the level you want. Unexpected advantage: * It is now much easier to stop all mail delivery, while still accepting new mail on smtp. Yap, I only need to kill amavisd, no mail is lost. As for the virus scanner itself: amavis is a does everything, except scanning the files themselves for virii. It needs a command-line scanner for that. Amavis lacks a bit interactive commands. For instance, when it discovers a message that is suspected as infected, it puts it as a file in a certain folder. It has it, it is not created by default, you need to create it /var/virusmails and chown to amavisd user Another one that I will not use is McAfee's one. It may be fine, but the EULA (at least for the evaluation copy) forbids the user to publish reviews and benchmarks on the product without NAI's agreement. I'm not going to write any review about this product, but for another reason. I use the above and I can't tell you anything else ;-) The only problem I had with it is amavisd related: amavisd examine the exit code to see if virus was found, for some reason this was set to 1 for NAI and not 13, I got the right number from the logs using EICAR.COM. I guess the 4.X scan engine is from the 3.X. I didn't run benchmarks, I used it because it's already paid for. Don't forget to test using EICAR.COM plain, gziped, arc, bzip2 etc Bye Gal = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virus-scanners for mail servers
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Hi all Due to company policy, I need to install a virus scanner on a linux mail server. I would like to ask for recommendations. Hi Tzafrir, Just my 2 agorot: I use a GPL mail scanner named Anomy (http://mailtools.anomy.net/), together with the Kaspersky AVP virus scanner for Linux. AVP is pretty cheap (around $50 for 1 year of updates), and works like a charm. Gavrie. -- Gavrie Philipson Netmor Ltd. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virus-scanners for mail servers
Hi all Installation turned out to be not as easy as I thought, so I decided that it would be useful to post a follow-up On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: * As a framework for a virus scanner I saw recommendations for amavis (http://www.amavis.org ). Any other recomendations? It seems that it is at least as good as the others. Installation was fairly easy. The docmentation is resonable. I'll have to try tinkering with it a bit so it will send in the warinng message to the virus sender the name of the suspected virus, and some other small details. One thing that lacked in the installation insructions was something about which user will run the virus scanner. It seems that the default install script assumes that it will be root, and thus does not bother creating a special directory for data, and this also does not appear in the install instructions. In the first tests I couldn't figure out why I'm getting empty headrs from infected messages, and then I noticed the log messages, and created such a directory that is writable by the vscan user. I needed the programs 'tnef' and 'reformime'. I got 'tnef package from Mandrake's contrib and rebuilt it (I had to rebuild it, of course. I'm not going to upgrade my system to glibc 2.2 just for those packages!). reformime is part of the 'maildrop' package. I decided to install the whole package, as I hope it will supply me better command-line tools for handling MIME. Here, again, I rebuilt the package from mandrake's contrib. * I'm currently using PostFix as the MTA. I currently use postfix-19991231_pl08 from mandrake 7.2 .I saw something in the latest version regarding content filtering. Worth the upgrade? I didn't upgrade. As I have mentioned in another post, I wanted to also check outgoing mail. The problem is that PostFix has no simple way to add a scanning by an external programs to all the messages in the queue. One common solution seems to be to scan only locally-delivered messages, and hook into the mail delivery process. Another solution (which is suggested in the amavis documentation) is similar to the smtp proxy solution presented in another post. You add a seperate postfix copy, which only listens on the smtp port. It handles all the basic sanity checks, and then delivers all the mail to the vscan transport, which is the virus scanner (amavis). When amavis finishes scanning the message, it delivers it as a local message to the main postfix copy, which handles all the delivery. Downsides: * complication (for instance: you now have to master processes) * resource consumption (not much, but I have to mention it ;-) * this still does not allow scanning of locally-created messages (If you operate a webmail, don't let it mail using /usr/sbin/sendmail, for instance) Unexpected advantage: * It is now much easier to stop all mail delivery, while still accepting new mail on smtp. The instructions for doing this change were in README.postfix , and were clear and accurate. One small thing that I have changed there was to make the two postfix processes use two seperate services (I have created a new /etc/init.d/postfix.smtp which is a tweaked copy of /etc/init.d/postfix) As for the virus scanner itself: amavis is a does everything, except scanning the files themselves for virii. It needs a command-line scanner for that. Amavis lacks a bit interactive commands. For instance, when it discovers a message that is suspected as infected, it puts it as a file in a certain folder. The organization generally works with Symantec (Norton), however, it seems that symantec is the only major vendor which does not have a virus scanner for linux, and thus I'm forced to look elsewhere. Another one that I will not use is McAfee's one. It may be fine, but the EULA (at least for the evaluation copy) forbids the user to publish reviews and benchmarks on the product without NAI's agreement. I'm not going to write any review about this product, but for another reason. I'm currently trying sophos's one. seems resonable. One small nconvinince: the command-line scanner (sweep) does not allow scanning a file from the standard input. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virus-scanners for mail servers
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Miki Shapiro wrote: Basically, it's precisely what you need (if I understood correctly) - a modern policy-managed AV on top of an SMTP proxy. Actually, that's the kind of products I wanted to avoid: I'm quite satisfied with Postfix as an smtp server, and I don't need this functionality. The only functionality I need is a scanner, with as little as possible extra work done by propriotery products. [A summary message soon] -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virus-scanners for mail servers
Hi, Donno about eSafe - but I used in the last 2-3 years a simple program called amavis which was using Mcafee anti virus DAT files in order to scan any incoming/outgoing mail - the program is very small and you only need to do is to replace the DAT files once in a while... www.amavis.org Hetz On Sunday 24 June 2001 08:31, Miki Shapiro wrote: I strongly suggest you take a look at our eSafe Mail product. I don't remember if it was released for linux already - either that or it's around the late beta stage). The Exchange version just took PCMag's Ed's choice this year. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virus-scanners for mail servers
Hi On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Donno about eSafe - but I used in the last 2-3 years a simple program called amavis which was using Mcafee anti virus DAT files in order to scan any incoming/outgoing mail - the program is very small and you only need to do is to replace the DAT files once in a while... www.amavis.org Are you sure? Current version of amavis, at least, uses a command-line scanner, and not data files. There is a site http://www.openantivirus.org/ , but basically all of the content there is we want to create an open source virus scanner, spread the word that we want to do so and a list of commercial virus scanners availble for linux. They also have a mailing list, which shows some signs of activities, but I haven't seen anything concrete there. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virus-scanners for mail servers
Are you sure? Absolutly - I have installed that at Intercomp (after one of the employees back then thought he saw something cool - and passed it to every mail box - so the entire company got infected). I really don't care about their open source anti virus program. I was paying back then for a commercial program to get the DAT files for my clients, and with Amavis - I was putting it on my (back then) mail server - works as a charm and even include some nice virus test.. Hetz Current version of amavis, at least, uses a command-line scanner, and not data files. There is a site http://www.openantivirus.org/ , but basically all of the content there is we want to create an open source virus scanner, spread the word that we want to do so and a list of commercial virus scanners availble for linux. They also have a mailing list, which shows some signs of activities, but I haven't seen anything concrete there. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virus-scanners for mail servers
.. One more remark...
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Jonathan Ben-Avraham wrote:
modern policy-managed AV on top of an SMTP proxy.
No, on top of Exchange.
No, actually I was explicitly talking about the SMTP linux version (that
fits as either a linux appliance running qmail and us or as a simple smtp
proxy with an AV on top someplace in the SMTP chain between the world and
your mail server). NOT the exchange version that talks MAPI. The reason I
mentioned the exchange version is because they share the same engine, and
it got some attention from the global community lately.
.. And it's still in Alpha/Beta :-(( ... I checked. So it's not really a
valid option yet.
Cheers :-)
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Jonathan Ben-Avraham wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Miki Shapiro wrote:
I strongly suggest you take a look at our eSafe Mail product.
I don't remember if it was released for linux already - either that or
I strongly suggest that you don't advertise on our list.
What's the point of posting to this list if you don't know if it's
available on Linux?
it's around the late beta stage). The Exchange version just took
PCMag's Ed's choice this year.
Who on this list cares about the Exchange version?
Basically, it's precisely what you need (if I understood correctly) - a
Except that it's not available on Linux, which is precisely what he needs.
modern policy-managed AV on top of an SMTP proxy.
No, on top of Exchange.
Regards,
- yba
Oh yeah, and it's totzeret haaretz :-)
Check out our site - www.esafe.com
Cheers!
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Hi all
Due to company policy, I need to install a virus scanner on a linux mail
server. I would like to ask for recommendations.
The organization generally works with Symantec (Norton), however, it seems
that symantec is the only major vendor which does not have a virus scanner
for linux, and thus I'm forced to look elsewhere.
I'm generally not impressed by the promissed of AV vendors to catch 100%
of 100 virii. Igenerally wouldn't trust an virus-scanner as a replacement
for basic security (e.g.: don't run untrusted programs). However the sad
fact is that many users do. So I'm not looking for the most
sophisticated virus scanner.
It seems that almost all the information that can be found on the vendor
is only regarding that last point. I'm interested to know some other
things:
* Is there any of them that is supported in Israel to some extent?
Although I believe that I this is not so important.
* Performance. My server has other things to do besides running a virus
scanner. I currently run the mail server on a Celeron/400/128MB, that is
mostly busy with mail handling (including pop3 serivng) for 50-100
clients. Around 500 messages per day.
I may also want to use a smaller computer as a mail gateway.
* Ease of usse: Any of them doesn't work well with, say, amavis? Any
special quirks?
* The price should also be factored in somehow...
Some other questions that come to mind:
* As a framework for a virus scanner I saw recommendations for amavis
(http://www.amavis.org ). Any other recomendations? It seems that it is
at least as good as the others.
* I'm currently using PostFix as the MTA. I currently use
postfix-19991231_pl08 from mandrake 7.2 .I saw something in the latest
version regarding content filtering. Worth the upgrade?
Thanks
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Re: virus-scanners for mail servers
I strongly suggest you take a look at our eSafe Mail product. I don't remember if it was released for linux already - either that or it's around the late beta stage). The Exchange version just took PCMag's Ed's choice this year. Basically, it's precisely what you need (if I understood correctly) - a modern policy-managed AV on top of an SMTP proxy. Oh yeah, and it's totzeret haaretz :-) Check out our site - www.esafe.com Cheers! ---= Miki Shapiro =-- ---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 = ---= ICQ: 3EE853 =--- ---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =--- - If at first you don't succeed... .. Skydiving is probbably not for you. On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Hi all Due to company policy, I need to install a virus scanner on a linux mail server. I would like to ask for recommendations. The organization generally works with Symantec (Norton), however, it seems that symantec is the only major vendor which does not have a virus scanner for linux, and thus I'm forced to look elsewhere. I'm generally not impressed by the promissed of AV vendors to catch 100% of 100 virii. Igenerally wouldn't trust an virus-scanner as a replacement for basic security (e.g.: don't run untrusted programs). However the sad fact is that many users do. So I'm not looking for the most sophisticated virus scanner. It seems that almost all the information that can be found on the vendor is only regarding that last point. I'm interested to know some other things: * Is there any of them that is supported in Israel to some extent? Although I believe that I this is not so important. * Performance. My server has other things to do besides running a virus scanner. I currently run the mail server on a Celeron/400/128MB, that is mostly busy with mail handling (including pop3 serivng) for 50-100 clients. Around 500 messages per day. I may also want to use a smaller computer as a mail gateway. * Ease of usse: Any of them doesn't work well with, say, amavis? Any special quirks? * The price should also be factored in somehow... Some other questions that come to mind: * As a framework for a virus scanner I saw recommendations for amavis (http://www.amavis.org ). Any other recomendations? It seems that it is at least as good as the others. * I'm currently using PostFix as the MTA. I currently use postfix-19991231_pl08 from mandrake 7.2 .I saw something in the latest version regarding content filtering. Worth the upgrade? Thanks -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virus-scanners for mail servers
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Miki Shapiro wrote:
I strongly suggest you take a look at our eSafe Mail product.
I don't remember if it was released for linux already - either that or
I strongly suggest that you don't advertise on our list.
What's the point of posting to this list if you don't know if it's
available on Linux?
it's around the late beta stage). The Exchange version just took
PCMag's Ed's choice this year.
Who on this list cares about the Exchange version?
Basically, it's precisely what you need (if I understood correctly) - a
Except that it's not available on Linux, which is precisely what he needs.
modern policy-managed AV on top of an SMTP proxy.
No, on top of Exchange.
Regards,
- yba
Oh yeah, and it's totzeret haaretz :-)
Check out our site - www.esafe.com
Cheers!
---= Miki Shapiro =--
---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 =
---= ICQ: 3EE853 =---
---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =---
-
If at first you don't succeed...
.. Skydiving is probbably not for you.
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Hi all
Due to company policy, I need to install a virus scanner on a linux mail
server. I would like to ask for recommendations.
The organization generally works with Symantec (Norton), however, it seems
that symantec is the only major vendor which does not have a virus scanner
for linux, and thus I'm forced to look elsewhere.
I'm generally not impressed by the promissed of AV vendors to catch 100%
of 100 virii. Igenerally wouldn't trust an virus-scanner as a replacement
for basic security (e.g.: don't run untrusted programs). However the sad
fact is that many users do. So I'm not looking for the most
sophisticated virus scanner.
It seems that almost all the information that can be found on the vendor
is only regarding that last point. I'm interested to know some other
things:
* Is there any of them that is supported in Israel to some extent?
Although I believe that I this is not so important.
* Performance. My server has other things to do besides running a virus
scanner. I currently run the mail server on a Celeron/400/128MB, that is
mostly busy with mail handling (including pop3 serivng) for 50-100
clients. Around 500 messages per day.
I may also want to use a smaller computer as a mail gateway.
* Ease of usse: Any of them doesn't work well with, say, amavis? Any
special quirks?
* The price should also be factored in somehow...
Some other questions that come to mind:
* As a framework for a virus scanner I saw recommendations for amavis
(http://www.amavis.org ). Any other recomendations? It seems that it is
at least as good as the others.
* I'm currently using PostFix as the MTA. I currently use
postfix-19991231_pl08 from mandrake 7.2 .I saw something in the latest
version regarding content filtering. Worth the upgrade?
Thanks
--
Tzafrir Cohen
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virus-scanners for mail servers
Hi all Due to company policy, I need to install a virus scanner on a linux mail server. I would like to ask for recommendations. The organization generally works with Symantec (Norton), however, it seems that symantec is the only major vendor which does not have a virus scanner for linux, and thus I'm forced to look elsewhere. I'm generally not impressed by the promissed of AV vendors to catch 100% of 100 virii. Igenerally wouldn't trust an virus-scanner as a replacement for basic security (e.g.: don't run untrusted programs). However the sad fact is that many users do. So I'm not looking for the most sophisticated virus scanner. It seems that almost all the information that can be found on the vendor is only regarding that last point. I'm interested to know some other things: * Is there any of them that is supported in Israel to some extent? Although I believe that I this is not so important. * Performance. My server has other things to do besides running a virus scanner. I currently run the mail server on a Celeron/400/128MB, that is mostly busy with mail handling (including pop3 serivng) for 50-100 clients. Around 500 messages per day. I may also want to use a smaller computer as a mail gateway. * Ease of usse: Any of them doesn't work well with, say, amavis? Any special quirks? * The price should also be factored in somehow... Some other questions that come to mind: * As a framework for a virus scanner I saw recommendations for amavis (http://www.amavis.org ). Any other recomendations? It seems that it is at least as good as the others. * I'm currently using PostFix as the MTA. I currently use postfix-19991231_pl08 from mandrake 7.2 .I saw something in the latest version regarding content filtering. Worth the upgrade? Thanks -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
