Re: archiving parts in linux.

2007-02-01 Thread Tzahi Fadida
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 16:19, Yehoshua (Shay) O'Hayon Suchar wrote:
 Tzahi Fadida said:
  I tried 7z but after about 12% of archiving it gives a weird error:
  Error:
 
 
  System error:
  Too many open files 
  (and this file was never opened :).
 
  What can i do?

 Could be that the error has something to do with the limit of file
 descriptors in the system?

Sorry for not responding earlier. My system crashed and i had to restore from 
backups. 
I did not really understand this. Are you saying there is a limit on the 
number of files i can tar gz?
I also make backups of my emails and there can be as much as a million files, 
pherhaps more because of the mbox style(i think) of holding mails.


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Re: archiving parts in linux.

2007-02-01 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 01/02/07, Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tuesday 30 January 2007 16:19, Yehoshua (Shay) O'Hayon Suchar wrote:
 Tzahi Fadida said:
  I tried 7z but after about 12% of archiving it gives a weird error:
  Error:
 
 
  System error:
  Too many open files 
  (and this file was never opened :).
 
  What can i do?

 Could be that the error has something to do with the limit of file
 descriptors in the system?

Sorry for not responding earlier. My system crashed and i had to restore from
backups.
I did not really understand this. Are you saying there is a limit on the
number of files i can tar gz?
I also make backups of my emails and there can be as much as a million files,
pherhaps more because of the mbox style(i think) of holding mails.



Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but so far as I know mbox
saves all the emails of a particular folder in one big file. So if you
have 200 emails in 5 folders, then you will have 5 mbox files.

Kmail has another two or three files per mbox folder, so you really
will have 5*n folders, but you get the idea. It's not 200*n.

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Re: archiving parts in linux.

2007-02-01 Thread Tzahi Fadida
On Thursday 01 February 2007 14:55, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 On 01/02/07, Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tuesday 30 January 2007 16:19, Yehoshua (Shay) O'Hayon Suchar wrote:
   Tzahi Fadida said:
I tried 7z but after about 12% of archiving it gives a weird error:
Error:
   
   
System error:
Too many open files 
(and this file was never opened :).
   
What can i do?
  
   Could be that the error has something to do with the limit of file
   descriptors in the system?
 
  Sorry for not responding earlier. My system crashed and i had to restore
  from backups.
  I did not really understand this. Are you saying there is a limit on the
  number of files i can tar gz?
  I also make backups of my emails and there can be as much as a million
  files, pherhaps more because of the mbox style(i think) of holding mails.

 Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but so far as I know mbox
 saves all the emails of a particular folder in one big file. So if you
 have 200 emails in 5 folders, then you will have 5 mbox files.

 Kmail has another two or three files per mbox folder, so you really
 will have 5*n folders, but you get the idea. It's not 200*n.

Sorry, of course maildir.


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Re: archiving parts in linux.

2007-01-30 Thread Yehoshua (Shay) O'Hayon Suchar
Tzahi Fadida said:


 I tried 7z but after about 12% of archiving it gives a weird error: Error:


 System error:
 Too many open files 
 (and this file was never opened :).

 What can i do?


Could be that the error has something to do with the limit of file
descriptors in the system?

Check out this: http://bcr2.uwaterloo.ca/~brecht/servers/openfiles.html



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Re: archiving parts in linux.

2007-01-29 Thread Oren Held
try DAR (Disk ARchiver), should be a good one although doesn't ship 
standardly with Linux.

http://dar.sf.net or just apt-get install dar.

The term for splitting files is called 'slice'.

- Oren

Tzahi Fadida wrote:

Hi,
I wish to archive a 50mb file into several parts of 5mb files in linux.
I also need to be able to open the files in windows.
For some unknown reason, i can't find a way (other than using a non-free rar) 
to do this.
I tried zipsplit but it says something about the file being too large or 
something like this. 


I tried 7z but after about 12% of archiving it gives a weird error:
Error:


System error:
Too many open files 
(and this file was never opened :).

What can i do?

Also, i am trying to backup my files (many thousands of them). is there a way 
to cause tar or something else not to use a local tmp directory (since i 
don't have enough room) and also, it seems to eat too much memory till my kde 
programs starts to close.

10x.

  



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Re: archiving parts in linux.

2007-01-29 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David

Tzahi Fadida wrote:


 Hi,
 I wish to archive a 50mb file into several parts of 5mb files in linux.
 I also need to be able to open the files in windows.
 For some unknown reason, i can't find a way (other than using a non-free
rar)
 to do this.



The canonical way (although maybe not the most comfortable one) is using
dd.
dd if=bigfile of=part1 bs=5m count=1
dd if=bigfile of=part2 bs=5m skip=1 count=1
dd if=bigfile of=part3 bs=5m skip=2 count=1
..

To reassemble them on unix, use 'cat part1 part2 part3 ...  bigfile'.
To reassemble on windows, use 'copy /b part1+part2+part3... bigfile'.

You can also use the 'split' command. The GNU version has an option '-b' for
that.
Standard unix versions do not, and only split by lines. That's why
traditionally dd
is used. I also have a feeling (did not check) that dd is much faster.
--
Didi


Re: archiving parts in linux.

2007-01-29 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 29/01/07, Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I also have a feeling (did not check) that dd is much faster.
--
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You're probably partial to dd because it's your name!

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Re: archiving parts in linux.

2007-01-29 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David

2007/1/29, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On 29/01/07, Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I also have a feeling (did not check) that dd is much faster.
 --
 Didi


You're probably partial to dd because it's your name!



Obviously :-)
You can guess I heard by now many jokes regarding this ...
And if we are getting this OT, I'll add that I thought for many years
that dd is 'copy and convert' as it's manpage says, only 'cc' was
already used for 'c compiler' so they took 'dd'. But the reality is that
it's named after a OS 360 JCL command with the same name, similar
functionality and similar syntax, which also explains the odd, non-unixy
syntax it has. Google if you are interested.
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archiving parts in linux.

2007-01-28 Thread Tzahi Fadida
Hi,
I wish to archive a 50mb file into several parts of 5mb files in linux.
I also need to be able to open the files in windows.
For some unknown reason, i can't find a way (other than using a non-free rar) 
to do this.
I tried zipsplit but it says something about the file being too large or 
something like this. 

I tried 7z but after about 12% of archiving it gives a weird error:
Error:


System error:
Too many open files 
(and this file was never opened :).

What can i do?

Also, i am trying to backup my files (many thousands of them). is there a way 
to cause tar or something else not to use a local tmp directory (since i 
don't have enough room) and also, it seems to eat too much memory till my kde 
programs starts to close.
10x.

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Tzahi.
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Re: archiving parts in linux.

2007-01-28 Thread Oded Arbel
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 01:38 +0200, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
 Hi,
 I wish to archive a 50mb file into several parts of 5mb files in linux.
 I also need to be able to open the files in windows.
 For some unknown reason, i can't find a way (other than using a non-free rar) 
 to do this.
 I tried zipsplit but it says something about the file being too large or 
 something like this. 

I never had any problem with zipsplit, but as unlike the zip command
itself, it doesn't do stdio streaming, you need to make sure you have
enough free space to do the work - to hold the original zip, the
splitted files resulting from the operation and at most as much
temporary space as the original large file.

 What can i do?

tar -M creates multiple tar volumes, but managing them (using -F) is not
straight forward, and you also can't compress them on the fly, so you'd
have to compress them one by one after tarring, and uncompress all of
them before untarring. Also - I don't know how windows software would
handle multi-volume tars.

You might also want to look at
http://www.informatik-vollmer.de/software/split-tar.php which claims to
generate standard tarballs, though I never tried it (#include
std.disclaimer)

 Also, i am trying to backup my files (many thousands of them). is there a way 
 to cause tar or something else not to use a local tmp directory (since i 
 don't have enough room) and also, it seems to eat too much memory till my kde 
 programs starts to close.
I usually stream tars to standard out, and I never noticed it using any
amount of tmp (/tmp is a rather small ramdisk on my server - I'm sure I
would have noticed if it would eat out of that).

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