Re: list police ate my message
On 24/03/07, Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps there is a way to register a key to the list engine and you can sign your email with the key. Then, the list engine will be sure to know it is you. Everyone else and your not signed emails will have to pass the spam filters. It's called pgp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/long_answer/what_is_a_router.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/kde.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote about Re: list police ate my message: Ah, understood. I did know that it is so easy to forge From addresses. I just did not think of it. While it is true that spammers can, and very easily, forge From addresses and choose one of a legitimate member of the list, I've never actually seen this happen in practice, and I've been running mailing lists for almost a decade. Has anyone seen this happen? (a spammer sending mail to a list, pretending to come from one of the legitimate subscribers) If not, then this trick can still work, temporarily, until the spammers feel it is worth they while to catch up... -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Mar 25 2007, 6 Nisan 5767 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Does replacing myself with a shell-script http://nadav.harel.org.il |make me impressive or insignificant? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
On Sunday 25 March 2007 12:08, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 24/03/07, Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps there is a way to register a key to the list engine and you can sign your email with the key. Then, the list engine will be sure to know it is you. Everyone else and your not signed emails will have to pass the spam filters. It's called pgp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy I know pgp, however, it is not enough that you sign it, you have to tell the list to register you somehow for later processing otherwise your email will be considered like any other. -- Regards, Tzahi. -- Tzahi Fadida Blog: http://tzahi.blogsite.org | Home Site: http://tzahi.webhop.info WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
Maybe because the spam filter is doing such a good job?;) But seriously, maybe it's a good idea to remove the spam filter for a while and see how it affects the list. Ely On 3/25/07, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 24, 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote about Re: list police ate my message: Ah, understood. I did know that it is so easy to forge From addresses. I just did not think of it. While it is true that spammers can, and very easily, forge From addresses and choose one of a legitimate member of the list, I've never actually seen this happen in practice, and I've been running mailing lists for almost a decade. Has anyone seen this happen? (a spammer sending mail to a list, pretending to come from one of the legitimate subscribers) If not, then this trick can still work, temporarily, until the spammers feel it is worth they while to catch up... -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Mar 25 2007, 6 Nisan 5767 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Does replacing myself with a shell-script http://nadav.harel.org.il |make me impressive or insignificant? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 03:55:51PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 23/03/07, Moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday March 22 2007, Peter wrote: Again the list police ate a message of mine. No, it did not use any offensive language. Found and forwarded (Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). It is the bayesian filter that kicks in and marks it as spam. I am adding a procmail rule locally to handle the false positives originating from your address. Hopefully, that will improve the situation. Instead of resending the same message (that only increases your spam score), or complaining on the list, you always can send me the contents of Message-Id: header privately and I will look it up the spam queue. Would it be possible to whitelist addresses that have X posts? I'd imagine any X larger than 10 should suffice. I like this idea. (silly test) -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849755 || friend t = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
On 24/03/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be possible to whitelist addresses that have X posts? I'd imagine any X larger than 10 should suffice. I like this idea. (silly test) -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849755 || friend t Ah, understood. I did know that it is so easy to forge From addresses. I just did not think of it. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
Perhaps there is a way to register a key to the list engine and you can sign your email with the key. Then, the list engine will be sure to know it is you. Everyone else and your not signed emails will have to pass the spam filters. On Saturday 24 March 2007 22:15, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 24/03/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be possible to whitelist addresses that have X posts? I'd imagine any X larger than 10 should suffice. I like this idea. (silly test) -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849755 || friend t Ah, understood. I did know that it is so easy to forge From addresses. I just did not think of it. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Tzahi. -- Tzahi Fadida Blog: http://tzahi.blogsite.org | Home Site: http://tzahi.webhop.info WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
On Thursday March 22 2007, Peter wrote: Again the list police ate a message of mine. No, it did not use any offensive language. Found and forwarded (Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). It is the bayesian filter that kicks in and marks it as spam. I am adding a procmail rule locally to handle the false positives originating from your address. Hopefully, that will improve the situation. Instead of resending the same message (that only increases your spam score), or complaining on the list, you always can send me the contents of Message-Id: header privately and I will look it up the spam queue. -- Sincerely Yours, Michael Vasiliev The List Deputy in Charge Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind. -- Wm. Shakespeare = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
The copy seems to have been deleted also. The message that was eaten (twice?) had Headers: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:52:43 +0200 (IST) thanks, Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
On 23/03/07, Moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday March 22 2007, Peter wrote: Again the list police ate a message of mine. No, it did not use any offensive language. Found and forwarded (Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). It is the bayesian filter that kicks in and marks it as spam. I am adding a procmail rule locally to handle the false positives originating from your address. Hopefully, that will improve the situation. Instead of resending the same message (that only increases your spam score), or complaining on the list, you always can send me the contents of Message-Id: header privately and I will look it up the spam queue. Would it be possible to whitelist addresses that have X posts? I'd imagine any X larger than 10 should suffice. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/111/19/adams_bryan/live_live_live_.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/bios.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: list police ate my message
Again the list police ate a message of mine. No, it did not use any offensive language. Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]