Re: list police ate my message

2007-03-25 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 24/03/07, Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Perhaps there is a way to register a key to the list engine and you can sign
your email with the key. Then, the list engine will be sure to know it is
you. Everyone else and your not signed emails will have to pass the spam
filters.



It's called pgp:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy

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Re: list police ate my message

2007-03-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote about Re: list police ate my message:
 Ah, understood. I did know that it is so easy to forge From addresses.
 I just did not think of it.

While it is true that spammers can, and very easily, forge From addresses
and choose one of a legitimate member of the list, I've never actually seen
this happen in practice, and I've been running mailing lists for almost a
decade. Has anyone seen this happen? (a spammer sending mail to a list,
pretending to come from one of the legitimate subscribers)
If not, then this trick can still work, temporarily, until the spammers feel
it is worth they while to catch up...

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Re: list police ate my message

2007-03-25 Thread Tzahi Fadida
On Sunday 25 March 2007 12:08, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 On 24/03/07, Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Perhaps there is a way to register a key to the list engine and you can
  sign your email with the key. Then, the list engine will be sure to know
  it is you. Everyone else and your not signed emails will have to pass the
  spam filters.

 It's called pgp:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy

I know pgp, however, it is not enough that you sign it, you have to tell the 
list to register you somehow for later processing otherwise your email will 
be considered like any other.

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Re: list police ate my message

2007-03-25 Thread Ely Levy

Maybe because the spam filter is doing such a good job?;)
But seriously, maybe it's a good idea to remove the spam filter for a while
and see how it affects the list.

Ely

On 3/25/07, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sat, Mar 24, 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote about Re: list police ate my
message:
 Ah, understood. I did know that it is so easy to forge From addresses.
 I just did not think of it.

While it is true that spammers can, and very easily, forge From addresses
and choose one of a legitimate member of the list, I've never actually
seen
this happen in practice, and I've been running mailing lists for almost a
decade. Has anyone seen this happen? (a spammer sending mail to a list,
pretending to come from one of the legitimate subscribers)
If not, then this trick can still work, temporarily, until the spammers
feel
it is worth they while to catch up...

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5767
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shell-script
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Re: list police ate my message

2007-03-24 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 03:55:51PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 On 23/03/07, Moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday March 22 2007, Peter wrote:
  Again the list police ate a message of mine. No, it did not use any
  offensive language.
 Found and forwarded (Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). It is the bayesian
 filter that kicks in and marks it as spam. I am adding a procmail rule
 locally to handle the false positives originating from your address.
 Hopefully, that will improve the situation. Instead of resending the same
 message (that only increases your spam score), or complaining on the list,
 you always can send me the contents of Message-Id: header privately and I
 will look it up the spam queue.
 
 
 Would it be possible to whitelist addresses that have X posts? I'd
 imagine any X larger than 10 should suffice.

I like this idea.

(silly test)

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Re: list police ate my message

2007-03-24 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 24/03/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Would it be possible to whitelist addresses that have X posts? I'd
 imagine any X larger than 10 should suffice.

I like this idea.

(silly test)

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Ah, understood. I did know that it is so easy to forge From addresses.
I just did not think of it.

Dotan Cohen

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Re: list police ate my message

2007-03-24 Thread Tzahi Fadida
Perhaps there is a way to register a key to the list engine and you can sign 
your email with the key. Then, the list engine will be sure to know it is 
you. Everyone else and your not signed emails will have to pass the spam 
filters.

On Saturday 24 March 2007 22:15, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 On 24/03/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Would it be possible to whitelist addresses that have X posts? I'd
   imagine any X larger than 10 should suffice.
 
  I like this idea.
 
  (silly test)
 
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 Ah, understood. I did know that it is so easy to forge From addresses.
 I just did not think of it.

 Dotan Cohen

 http://lyricslist.com/
 http://what-is-what.com/

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Re: list police ate my message

2007-03-23 Thread Moderator
On Thursday March 22 2007, Peter wrote:
 Again the list police ate a message of mine. No, it did not use any
 offensive language.
Found and forwarded (Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). It is the bayesian 
filter that kicks in and marks it as spam. I am adding a procmail rule 
locally to handle the false positives originating from your address. 
Hopefully, that will improve the situation. Instead of resending the same 
message (that only increases your spam score), or complaining on the list, 
you always can send me the contents of Message-Id: header privately and I 
will look it up the spam queue. 

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Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind.
-- Wm. Shakespeare

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Re: list police ate my message

2007-03-23 Thread Peter


The copy seems to have been deleted also. The message that was eaten 
(twice?) had Headers:


Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:52:43 +0200 (IST)

thanks,
Peter


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Re: list police ate my message

2007-03-23 Thread Dotan Cohen

On 23/03/07, Moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday March 22 2007, Peter wrote:
 Again the list police ate a message of mine. No, it did not use any
 offensive language.
Found and forwarded (Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). It is the bayesian
filter that kicks in and marks it as spam. I am adding a procmail rule
locally to handle the false positives originating from your address.
Hopefully, that will improve the situation. Instead of resending the same
message (that only increases your spam score), or complaining on the list,
you always can send me the contents of Message-Id: header privately and I
will look it up the spam queue.



Would it be possible to whitelist addresses that have X posts? I'd
imagine any X larger than 10 should suffice.

Dotan Cohen

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re: list police ate my message

2007-03-22 Thread Peter


Again the list police ate a message of mine. No, it did not use any 
offensive language.


Peter

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