Re: upgrade to Centos 5 question

2008-01-28 Thread Gilboa Davara

On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 16:38 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
 Hi,
 
 It's always fun to play with a distribution that on one side has the
 latest tech, but on the other side, ditches you on the side after few
 months (and only giving you choice to upgrade, or be left without
 updates)
 
 I'm using Fedora Core 6 on my main web server, and today I found out
 that the security updates are no longer available for Fedora Core 6.
 Worse: ATRPMS, FreshRPMS are no longer maintained for FC6 which means
 that if I want the latest security stuff, I need to roll my own RPMS
 or fix things manually..
 
 So I decided I want to upgrade from FC6 to Centos 5. I was wondering
 if anyone did it and if so, what method? what are the gotchas that I
 need to be careful of, or is it simply better to keep my data out,
 format the machine and install centos 5 from scratch? (Centos 5 does
 not recognize Fedora stuff, so the upgrade option is not given).
 
 Thanks,
 Hetz

AFAIK You cannot cross-upgrade between Fedora and RHEL/CentOS.
You'll have to do a fresh installation.
(Which IMHO, is the best option to begin with)

- Gilboa


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upgrade to Centos 5 question

2008-01-28 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi,

It's always fun to play with a distribution that on one side has the
latest tech, but on the other side, ditches you on the side after few
months (and only giving you choice to upgrade, or be left without
updates)

I'm using Fedora Core 6 on my main web server, and today I found out
that the security updates are no longer available for Fedora Core 6.
Worse: ATRPMS, FreshRPMS are no longer maintained for FC6 which means
that if I want the latest security stuff, I need to roll my own RPMS
or fix things manually..

So I decided I want to upgrade from FC6 to Centos 5. I was wondering
if anyone did it and if so, what method? what are the gotchas that I
need to be careful of, or is it simply better to keep my data out,
format the machine and install centos 5 from scratch? (Centos 5 does
not recognize Fedora stuff, so the upgrade option is not given).

Thanks,
Hetz
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my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org

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Re: upgrade to Centos 5 question

2008-01-28 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 28/01/2008, Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 It's always fun to play with a distribution that on one side has the
 latest tech, but on the other side, ditches you on the side after few
 months (and only giving you choice to upgrade, or be left without
 updates)

 I'm using Fedora Core 6 on my main web server, and today I found out
 that the security updates are no longer available for Fedora Core 6.
 Worse: ATRPMS, FreshRPMS are no longer maintained for FC6 which means
 that if I want the latest security stuff, I need to roll my own RPMS
 or fix things manually..

 So I decided I want to upgrade from FC6 to Centos 5. I was wondering
 if anyone did it and if so, what method? what are the gotchas that I
 need to be careful of, or is it simply better to keep my data out,
 format the machine and install centos 5 from scratch? (Centos 5 does
 not recognize Fedora stuff, so the upgrade option is not given).

 Thanks,
 Hetz

CentOS is based on RHEL, not Fedora. SO you cannot upgrade from one to
the other.

Dotan Cohen

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Re: upgrade to Centos 5 question

2008-01-28 Thread Oren Held
[...]
 I installed Centos 5 on my home server and I update it frequently.
 But Centos 5 is not for home use - its distribution does not have
 media programs (like LVM, I wanted it for media streaming). So for
 home/media use, may be Fedora (now 8) is better for your needs (few
 RPMs are available for Centos on ATRPMS, FreshRPMS does not support
 RHEL/Centos at all).

I agree that CentOS is usually not good for home. (I use it as home server, 
but run debian-unstable VMs inside :) )
Still, many RPMs are available through the amazing DAG repository:
http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/

Also there is the new EPEL project, but it's 'limping' a little..
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL

 - Oren

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Re: upgrade to Centos 5 question

2008-01-28 Thread Ehud Karni
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:38:21 Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

 I'm using Fedora Core 6 on my main web server, and today I found out
 that the security updates are no longer available for Fedora Core 6.
 Worse: ATRPMS, FreshRPMS are no longer maintained for FC6 which means
 that if I want the latest security stuff, I need to roll my own RPMS
 or fix things manually..

 So I decided I want to upgrade from FC6 to Centos 5. I was wondering
 if anyone did it and if so, what method? what are the gotchas that I
 need to be careful of, or is it simply better to keep my data out,
 format the machine and install centos 5 from scratch? (Centos 5 does
 not recognize Fedora stuff, so the upgrade option is not given).

Think twice before you go the Centos way.

I use both FC (now Fedora without `Core') and Centos in the office.
Both work fine and I don't update the production machines (there is
no access from the Internet except for mail and ssh).

I installed Centos 5 on my home server and I update it frequently.
But Centos 5 is not for home use - its distribution does not have
media programs (like LVM, I wanted it for media streaming). So for
home/media use, may be Fedora (now 8) is better for your needs (few
RPMs are available for Centos on ATRPMS, FreshRPMS does not support
RHEL/Centos at all).

Ehud.

BTW. If you go the Centos way, start with Centos 5.1.


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Re: upgrade to Centos 5 question

2008-01-28 Thread Ehud Karni
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:00:50 +0200, Oren Held [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Myself:
  But Centos 5 is not for home use - its distribution does not have
  media programs (like LVM, I wanted it for media streaming). So for
  home/media use, may be Fedora (now 8) is better for your needs (few
  RPMs are available for Centos on ATRPMS, FreshRPMS does not support
  RHEL/Centos at all).

 I agree that CentOS is usually not good for home. (I use it as home server,
 but run debian-unstable VMs inside :) )
 Still, many RPMs are available through the amazing DAG repository:
 http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/

 Also there is the new EPEL project, but it's 'limping' a little..
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL

I use the EPEL repository (highly recommended) and also the RPMforge
(http://rpmforge.net/) maintained by Dag. When I researched the LVM for
Centos5 issue, I found that Dag had about 40% of the libraries needed,
but still there was a lot of work to do to compile LVM for Centos5.

Ehud.


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