Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time
For me is pretty good Tuesday at 6 or Wednesday at 8 (Greenwich time, right?), if i'm included, of course. Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Software Center News
As you can see, in these days, the lubuntu software center project is a little inactive, why? * I'm looking for the PackageKit APIs, to port LSC to PackageKit (PackageKit has also some utils to determinate applications-packages and so, we will be able to change it to Light Software Center and other non *buntu distros will be able to use it) * I'm looking for a Vala port, wich is not so difficult because the most of the code is simply Gtk, wich is just the same in Python and Vala * I've not so much spare time, so i need help, contributors, Vala and Packagekit experts and testers. also, i want to thank Rafael who is designing the LSC icon ;-) I think is all for the moment Best Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:47:26 +0100 A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? +1, i love firefox, chromium is too much for dummies ;-) -- Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fix horrible icons in guvcview
Hi, i've just fixed the horrible icons in guvcview, using gtk-themed images. you can find the patch in lp:~stephen-smally/+junk/guvcview-fix-pixmaps Regards Stephen Smally P.S. i don't know if is well fixed, since is C and i don't knoe C really well, also i've used 4 spaces instead tab, but as dar as i know the c compiler doesn't care of space identation -- Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Blank screen bug solved (LSC)
Ok, with the 77 revision the blank screen bug should be definitively solved. Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc Mockups
Hi Everybody i'm looking for new ideas fot he Lubuntu Software Center Interface, if you have some ideas, please draw a mockup and post. regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] News
Ok, i've noticed that there are functions that work both on debian and ubuntu, so debian is the way to go for me :-P (of course i will do a dual-boot) Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc pause
Ok, i'm switched to debian (xubuntu damaged) and i noticed that apt_pkg has changed a lot of functions names (what a mess). so i will restart to work on lsc when Lubuntu 11.10 will be released (something like 14 days i think), to test it better. Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] I: Lsc 55
Right, remove the first '-' Bad URL dude ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Light mockup 2
excusme, this is the right mockup attachment: lscmock.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc 58
Lubuntu Software Center revision 58 is out (wait a moment please), new features: * new show/hide left pane button, as discussed in irc * now the details dialog looks good (finally!) i'm going to look for screenshots (the shouldn't be so heavy) anyway. A question: what do you think about the rules hint in the apps list (i mean the alternate grey color in the rows)? Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Use xcompmgr in Lubuntu
Hi everybody, i'm trying xcompmgr on my Lxde desktop, and it's very nice! It uses few RAM (2,5 mb on my 64 bit system) and can provide cool fade-in/out effects for menus and windows. I've tried this configuration: xcompmgr -cfC -D 5 then i removed the Show animation during maximize or minimize in openbox configuration manager. the result is simple but cool and can help to remove the Win XP effect that lxde produce (somebody think, IMO lxde is the best gtk DE ever!). Please think about the possibility to include xcompmgr by default in lubuntu. Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc 55
Lsc 55 is out. New clean dialog, to take care of your Lubuntu ;-) various UI improvements Solved some bugs related on the Apps store. Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC 53
Ok, LSC 53: * solved bugs related dependencies alternatives (see fusion-icon) There is a problem, Lsc can't show all the dependencies, for example if a package depend on a metapackage, the depends of the metapackage are now showed. e.g: fusion-icon compiz-kde (requested by fusion-icon) dependencies are not shown! other (request by fusion-icon) this mean that seems that packages like fusion-icon (wich depends on a lot of packages) depends only on few pkgs. so download size seems something like 500kb when is 50Mb! i will try to fix this, but if anybody has some ideas, they are appreciated. Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC 55
Lsc 55 will be pushed tomorrow, changelog: * Solved another bug related to the depends * few changes to the UI (in the preferences dialog, in the apps list and in the left pane) * Now the update and upgrade buttons work well What can i say, i use it for everyday use and is stable (no more strange crash changing visualization mode or so on), we have to do some theme tweaks to make it match better with ozone2 (Rafael Laguna is doing this), for example the details pane (when you double click on an apps) looks not so good (should be white, maybe using the same background USC uses). Gtk3 porting is not going so well (Segmentation Fault ;-)), i will push a branch for this owned by lubuntu-software-center-team, is somebody wants to join is welcome. (there is an approving pending for the lubuntu-software-center-team, i will take a look ASAP). Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc 50
Thanks to Julien, the revision 50 is out! the database is build during the installation or whenever the folder /usr/share/app-install/desktop is modified now. The ui is changed a bit, you can decide if show the menubar or let hide. If you think that some options should be default in lsc (like use the database or show the menubar) let me know. Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc database
On 13/09/2011 00:48, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le 12/09/2011 23:17, PCMan a écrit : Isn't /var/cache a better suited place for this kind of thing? +1, I think /var/cache/LSC is also a better place. Also, please make an independent script to update the database, so I can hook it in the package. It should be a simple command, like /usr/sbin/lubuntu-software-center-update-db Regards, Julien Lavergne yes, i was thinking about a script. i don't know if /var/cache is a good place, but you can choose the place by passing an argument. i will implement the database usage better (check at the startup if the database exists and so on). Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc revision 47
Ok, i've made few changes: * if the old config file hasn't some options will be updated and the new options will be added as in the default config file (this will create ~/.config/default_LSC.ini) * if the database doesn't exists, and the use of the database is setted True in the preferences, a new database will be created (via lubuntu-software-center-build-db, installed in /usr/bin) * now you haven't to follow the tutorial to try the database, simply enter lsc, go in the preferences, toggle Use Database and click apply. Please run in a terminal and report the errors if any. Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc base branch
Hi everybody, i want to notify that the zctive and pushed branch for Lubuntu Software Center is again lp:lubuntu-software-center. Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] remove threads from LSC
With the new database-based engine the ui charges in few seconds (half second on my machine), so we can remove the use of threads and reduce memory usage. Pro: Reduce Memory usage No more problems like no error report inside a thread Contro (how do you say in english? the bad things): In Expert mode you have to wait a few seconds to see the ui If the use_database option is false the user have to wait a lot of seconds. What do you think? Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc using a database, amazing!
Hi, i'm trying to use a database builded parsing /usr/share/app-install/desktop in lsc. well men, is amazing fast! when the ui shows the apps database is charged and ready to go! i will commit as soon as possible and i will build the ppa. if you wan't to try the database follow these step: 1 - sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade, if no upgrade are visible, you should wait. 2 - remove your lsc config folder ~/.config/lsc (remove the folder, not only LSC.ini) 3 - open a python shell ( $ python) and type these commands: from LSC import threadingops threadingops.BuildDatabase(/usr/share/pyshared/LSC/datas.db) # wait the prompt exit() 4 - launch lubuntu-software-center (better from terminal, to see if there are errors), open the preference dialog and toggle Use packages database. click apply and see the result! (if you restart lsc you will see better) we should build the database with a postinstall script (in the deb package), using exactly the commands of the 3 step (althought this will probably create a config file in the root home). Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc database
the database should be moved to /usr/share/LSC, i will do it immediately. Please note that to use the database in the step 3 you have to launch python with sudo ($ sudo python) Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu
Only one info, does lubuntu use alsa or pulseaudio? Stephen Smally On 11/09/2011 20:32, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le 11/09/2011 18:28, PCMan a écrit : For ALSA, a potential candidate GUI mixer is gamix. gamix was removed from Debian because it was not maintained properly. For PulseAudio, maybe we can use pama. This one seems also a bit old (no commit on trunk since 2010 April). Well, not easy to find a good solution for this type of software :( Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Use a database in lsc
ok, i'm looking into sqlite3, but if the db should be for all the user we need permission to write in a system folder. how to make a cache? it think that something like: if not package in cache: packages.append([ pkginfo1 pkginfo2 pkginfo3 ... ]) else: pass can work. Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Use a database in lsc
i was thinking about the use of a database, re-builded every time the cache update or upgrade, this because parse the contents of a directory(/usr/share/app-install/desktop) is very slow, so we can build the database parsing the directory only the first time, then parse the database to get the packages faster. we can also add an option in the edit menu, to re-build the database, called Force packages list upgrade or something similar. let me know what you think. Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Revision 34
pushed up LSC revision 34, solved bugs, refined interface, added makefile, .desktop file and launch-script. is ready for a ppa. Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC revision 33
Pushed up revision 33, changelog: *Using icon-name instead of pixbuf in the categories view, now i've got no error from librsvg or other. *the Search in all categories instead button now work (when no pkgs match the keyword) *solved bugs (i don't remember now what kind of bugs :-P) there is a bug clicking on the search in all categories instead button that causes Segmentation Fault, i've resolved it yet, but i can't push the fixing now. Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc revision 31
On 31/08/2011 23:55, Julien Lavergne wrote: On 08/31/2011 05:55 PM, Stefano wrote: anyway i think lsc is pretty usable, i use it everyday with satisfaction, tell me your ideas! Thanks for the update. I think the last items should be : - A build system - A way to translate it - And after, a release :) Then, you will be ready for real-world testing :) Again, if you need help on those items, let us know, or come talk to us on IRC :) thank you, i think i will come pretty soon ;-) Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] revision 27
you can translate it when you want, the only problem is that i'm not so expert in using .po files. P.S. pushed up revision 28, added the threading (the window shows instantaneally, but a progressbar notify the generation of the packages, try it!) and solved some problems related to the new ui. Regards, Stephen Smally On 29/08/2011 15:19, Glenn de Groot wrote: Wow!Very nice! :DWhen can I translate it to Dutch? :P Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:54:40 +0200 From: eco.st...@fastwebnet.it To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net; gi...@ubuntu.com Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] revision 27 pushed up revision 27, the left pane now is a treeview like in the first version and the categories view is a IconView. i don't really know what is popcon, can you explain? Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC 29
Unfortunately using threads in python have conflicts with aptdaemon, i've removed now, no more cute progressbar :-( a way could be transport the aptdaemon client in a python script and call it from commandline via gio.AppInfo().launch(). i'll take a look at gettext, thanks Julien. Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc revision 22
Pushed up revision 22. solved (i'm not sure) the bugs reported by Markus, i've changed the way Lsc charge the apps, the startup is more slow in beginner mode, but the listing o the apps is very fast. the apps are listed by package name (for example yorvik-cubeview is named CubeView and isn't the last of the graphics section). Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc revision 22
with the new software center in oneiric, replace the UI of software-center will be difficult, i think a software center is a software center anyway. i've pushed up the revision 23, changed the details dialog. i'm waiting your feedbacks! Regards Stephen Smally P.S. i'm glad you like it! On 27/08/2011 18:29, Glenn de Groot wrote: I tried LSC and I like it.IMHO, in order to wear the Software Center name it must look like USC.Muon Software does it for KDE: http://www.wonderly.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/muon-software-center.pngWere you going for that look eventually or are you planning to create a brand new interface? -Glenn ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc revision 15
Pushed up revision 15, added beginner mode by default (only applications in /usr/share/app-install/desktop), you can switch to expert mode by changing the settings in the file LSC.ini. preferences settings is to do, the branch work with me, but i repeat, if somebody knows how to set up a ppa, can get the branch and do it (it's opensource ;-D). the icons of the programs aren't rendered because i've got some problem using icons of different format in a treeview (message errors by librsvg), only the icon present in theme are rendered (a classic deb icon for the other). please give me feedback, and test, of course. Regards Stephen Smally. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc revision 18
I've pushed up the revision 18, fixed some bugs and changed the apps basket (more user-friendly now). in the revision 17 i've fixed a serious bug, some package like e.g. libnotify1-gtk2.10 are automatically installed via other package by apt (libnotify1-gtk2.10 is contained in libnotify1), but lsc was not set up to substitute this kind of package, now is ok, if somebody can test, a tipical app that give this bug is the gnustep de (so all the apps written in objc) e.g. charmap.app. Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC
ok, last update: i've changed the installation/removement dialog with aptdaemon.gtkwidgets.AptProgressDialog that is more standardizerd, with terminal and detailed progressbar. Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
On 25/08/2011 00:34, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le Wednesday 24 August 2011 à 23:27 +0200, Stefano a écrit : new branch and new fats-search engine for the Lubuntu Software Center, of course is still incomplete, hope will be ready for 12.04. get the branch: bzr branch lp:lubuntu-software-center Thank you for the update. It starts to be interesting and useful :) Just some comments : - software-center is beginning to move to packagekit backend, instead of the aptdaemon one. You should probably have a look at it if you want to to do more complex operations with the package manager. Fortunately, the concepts of aptdaemon and packagekit are the same, it should not block your UI or the way your software-center behave. - 1 feature that IMO a software-center must have, is the ability to show only real applications, not the list of all packages. As far as I know, it's not implemented in packagekit yet. 1 solution, is to parse the directory /usr/share/app-install/desktop/, which contain all the applications on Ubuntu repository (each .desktop file represent 1 application). Also, you will need at some point a proper build system, translation support etc .. but it can be added later. Regards, Julien Lavergne yes, i had taked a look to packagekit, i will look again. of course we need a way to know if a package is a real application, are app-install and app-install-data installed by default on lubuntu? alternatively we can use a simple text file containing a list of the real-applications-package. e.g. #apps.list firefox chromium evolution thunderbird ... Regards Stephen Smally P.S. new update, indipendent search entry for available and installed sections ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
i don't really know how to set up a ppa, but if somebody know how to do or want get involve i can create an admin group for LSC. i'm having some problem with the branch now, it says that the branch are diverged, i will fix as soon as possible. On 25/08/2011 18:17, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: Stefano: Could you upload your work to a PPA for start trying LSC? It would be great. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
new branch and new fats-search engine for the Lubuntu Software Center, of course is still incomplete, hope will be ready for 12.04. get the branch: bzr branch lp:lubuntu-software-center Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc news
hi everybody, i'm doing some work on Lsc (aka lubuntu software center). i've understood that USC is too much complex, cleaning up the code and removing unuseful parts will be too much difficutl (imho). MintInstall use massively synaptic as backend via os.popen (really i don't like it). anyway, the branch is still lp:~stephen-smally/+junk/lubuntu-software-center now Lsc list the sections give in the file data/categories (the syntax is Name||icon-name||section e.g. Utils||applications-utilities||utils). choosing a section, Lsc list the apps contained in the section, selecting an app you can see some info (description). you can also see your installed apps. at the moment you can remove or install packages (coming soon). there is a stupid function that define if the package is an app or a lib, but it doesn't work fine. please give me some feedbacks Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] USC
On 02/08/2011 01:11, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le Saturday 30 July 2011 à 17:03 +0200, Stefano a écrit : hi, i had a look to the ubuntu-software-center branch, my consideration are: 1 - the branch is not so clear (imho) 2 - USC uses app-install-data, wich was part of gnome-app-install, an old gnome package-installer if we want a light USC we have to remove: * Reviews * Votes * apps for purchase (and Ubuntu One logger) * History of installed-removed packages (maybe not) really i don't know where to start I did a quick modification to software center trunk to isolate the interested parts : https://code.launchpad.net/~gilir/+junk/software-center-lxde You need to look at 2 files : software-center-lxde softwarecenter/ui/gtk/appmini.py There is a #TODO on appmini.py to start drawing the UI. Sorry, I can't help more since I'm not familiar with USC code, you need to look at it to find any useful functions needed for your UI. Regards, Julien Lavergne thank you, will we use gtk.Builder to build the UI or simple-clean code (e.g. self.button = gtk.Button(press me!)? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] new ubuntu software center
here the new layout of ubuntu software center for oneiric (with webkit). http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/08/ubuntu-software-centre-lands-oneiric/ the cleanup will be very hard. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] new ubuntu software center
yeah, i agree, it looks orrible. synaptic is written in C (++?), i know only python as language... Mint software center have reviews and other unuseful things, but it could be better than USC. On 02/08/2011 11:51, Benny Hult wrote: Looks horrible and its full of Free software, like Android Market or other samekind of variants. Propably that kind of software is needed for marketing OS for the masses. Typing mystical spells into a blackbox is just too geek even for the hipsters using OS X ;) If I could code, I would rather use synaptic as the starting point. But, Linux Mint has also own software center, is that lighter than the USC? Could that be used or even forked? Sent from my Sony Ericsson XPERIA™ X1. Lähettäjä: Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it Lähetetty: 2. elokuuta 2011 12:30 Vastaanottaja: Lubuntu Mailing List lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Aihe: [Lubuntu-desktop] new ubuntu software center here the new layout of ubuntu software center for oneiric (with webkit). http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/08/ubuntu-software-centre-lands-oneiric/ the cleanup will be very hard. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] new ubuntu software center
On 02/08/2011 13:59, Tim Bernhard wrote: Peppermint has one. Maybe we should look at that? Tim On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: yeah, i agree, it looks orrible. synaptic is written in C (++?), i know only python as language... Mint software center have reviews and other unuseful things, but it could be better than USC. On 02/08/2011 11:51, Benny Hult wrote: Looks horrible and its full of Free software, like Android Market or other samekind of variants. Propably that kind of software is needed for marketing OS for the masses. Typing mystical spells into a blackbox is just too geek even for the hipsters using OS X ;) If I could code, I would rather use synaptic as the starting point. But, Linux Mint has also own software center, is that lighter than the USC? Could that be used or even forked? Sent from my Sony Ericsson XPERIA™ X1. Lähettäjä: Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it Lähetetty: 2. elokuuta 2011 12:30 Vastaanottaja: Lubuntu Mailing List lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Aihe: [Lubuntu-desktop] new ubuntu software center here the new layout of ubuntu software center for oneiric (with webkit). http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/08/ubuntu-software-centre-lands-oneiric/ the cleanup will be very hard. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp mint software center (mint install) is just the same in linux mint and peppermint. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] USC
i prefere the code, because the xml files (gtk.builder file) are too difficult to edit by hand. anyway can gazpacho work for it? On 02/08/2011 19:00, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le Tuesday 02 August 2011 à 11:10 +0200, Stefano a écrit : thank you, will we use gtk.Builder to build the UI or simple-clean code (e.g. self.button = gtk.Button(press me!)? It's probably simpler to use gtk.Builder. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] USC
hi, i had a look to the ubuntu-software-center branch, my consideration are: 1 - the branch is not so clear (imho) 2 - USC uses app-install-data, wich was part of gnome-app-install, an old gnome package-installer if we want a light USC we have to remove: * Reviews * Votes * apps for purchase (and Ubuntu One logger) * History of installed-removed packages (maybe not) really i don't know where to start Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Can be lubuntu software center good thing?
This mean, for example, hide the libs or other not-app packages by default? On 29/07/2011 18:01, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le Friday 29 July 2011 à 15:44 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : A lighter USC - synaptic if far too complicated for the average user :/ In what way is Synaptic 'far too complicated'? To make USC faster all that needs doing is the unnecessary bits removed. Get rid of the reviews and pretty pictures and, viola, Synaptic! +1 for the lighter USC. Basically, we need a better UI to present programs to install and remove. Synaptic is perfect for experiment users, but a beginner will expect a list of real programs, not a list of technical packages. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Can be lubuntu software center good thing?
i can say that on my 64 bit system lubuntu software center uses 50 MB RAM less than ubuntu software center (30 mb). the script will be less weight than 1 MB, it depends only on gtk and apt. anyway i think that lubuntu software center should be a kind of more user-friendly synaptic, and not a totally light-rewritten on ubuntu software center. Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Can be lubuntu software center good thing?
i think that sometimes rewrite is better than cleanup the code, and i dont' know if the authors of USC will be available. anyway, we are in democracy XD and this is the spirit of the open-source, i'm available to write python apps. P.S. i'm very sorry for my bad english, but i'm italian :-P On 28/07/2011 18:15, Filip Dominec wrote: Writing and mantaining own application of this importance can be tedious and risky task. Maybe we should first just assess what components of Ubuntu SW center make it slow and RAM consuming. If possible, second step could be to compile an Ubuntu SW center version which would have minimal dependencies, probably co-working with its contemporary authors. Filip On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:29:57 +0200 Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: i can say that on my 64 bit system lubuntu software center uses 50 MB RAM less than ubuntu software center (30 mb). the script will be less weight than 1 MB, it depends only on gtk and apt. anyway i think that lubuntu software center should be a kind of more user-friendly synaptic, and not a totally light-rewritten on ubuntu software center. Regards Stephen Smally ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
