Re: ~/.profile vs ~/.pam_environment

2013-06-14 Thread Lars Nooden
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
 What specifically makes you think changes to /etc/environment do not
 have any effect in Lubuntu Saucy?  Can you provide a complete set of
 steps to reproduce, please?  Make sure you log all the way out, or
 reboot, after making a change to it.

I tried changing them yesterday and must have done something wrong.  Today 
I tried the same method and /etc/environment takes effect if there is no 
.profile.  I do notice though that /etc/skel has .profile instead of 
.pam_environment.  Should that be changed?

Regards,
/Lars

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Re: Default Programs to 13.10 and 14.04

2013-06-14 Thread Andre Rodovalho
As a video player, I use SMplayer, a quite good piece of software... Lately
I installed VLC, but only to get the repeat function...


2013/6/14 Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com

 On 2013-06-13 22:05, Lars Nooden wrote:
  On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
  [snip]
  vlc
  [snip]
 
  I appreciate VLC very much but haven't tried it on the lower-end
 machines.
  It covers both audio and video so might take the place of two
  applications.  I should take a closer look at Audacious and GnomeMplayer
  to better be able to form an opinion.
 
  Regards,
  /Lars
 
 In some low end computers VLC plays video choppy where mplayer plays it
 well. So I think there is reason to keep mplayer in Lubuntu. (I think
 that mplayer2 is bundled with Lubuntu and it is faster than mplayer (svn).)

 But I agree that VLC is a good multimedia player, more polished than
 mplayer, and I have both of them installed.

 Best regards
 Nio

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Saucy artwork

2013-06-14 Thread Fernando Botelho



Do you have some name of theme in mind that we should include ? Do you
think we can use some XFCE or GNOME ones as it, or do we have to make
some changes to them to behave nicely on Lubuntu ?

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



Sorry for the delay in responding. It looks like someone already found a 
theme and the issue seems to be disk space. I do not know if there are 
also compatibility issues. I just wanted to place the request but 
unfortunately do not know if there are technical issues in importing 
such a theme from a generic Gnome or other distro.


Thanks,

Fernando

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Saucy artwork

2013-06-14 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Frenando,

the new theme is available in the Saucy ISO's at
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/270/builds if you want to
give it a try :)

Regards,

Phill.

On 14 June 2013 16:15, Fernando Botelho fernando.bote...@f123.org wrote:


  Do you have some name of theme in mind that we should include ? Do you
 think we can use some XFCE or GNOME ones as it, or do we have to make
 some changes to them to behave nicely on Lubuntu ?

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne


 Sorry for the delay in responding. It looks like someone already found a
 theme and the issue seems to be disk space. I do not know if there are also
 compatibility issues. I just wanted to place the request but unfortunately
 do not know if there are technical issues in importing such a theme from a
 generic Gnome or other distro.

 Thanks,


 Fernando

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Re: Default Programs to 13.10 and 14.04

2013-06-14 Thread Lars Nooden
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
   I could be wrong here, but if my slightly faulty memory is
   correct, the reason we cannot include VLC as default is because
   it has the 'restricted extras' built in to it, which cause a
   problem in terms of licensing it to be included as a default
   application.
 Regards,
 
 Phill.

On Fri, 14 Jun 2013, Jackson Doak wrote:
 yep. It's a shame, but it has do be done. stupid copyright and F/OSS laws

Nothing about FOSS there.  The application would be just as affected by 
copyright as a closed-source proprietary application.  However, one of the 
barriers is the US.  Being developed/distributed in the EU, VLC is not 
affected by patents, but any of our end users in the Americas would have 
trouble.  
http://www.videolan.org/legal.html

VLC is covered by the GPL so it would be allowed to make a 
bifurcated edition with the US-problematic bits in a separate package but 
I lack the skill for that.  So it looks like the most we can do is mention 
VLC in the slide show, if we don't want to exclude US users from getting 
Lubuntu.

Regards,
/Lars

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Re: ~/.profile vs ~/.pam_environment

2013-06-14 Thread Lars Nooden
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
 no instead of relationship between them.  I don't understand why you
 think there is.  /etc/environment (and ~/.pam_environment) will be used
 (via PAM) whether or not .profile exists for the user concerned.  One is
 executed by PAM, one is executed by a login shell.

It seems to be explained as an instead of situation in the wiki:
 
 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Session-wide_environment_variables

So maybe that is in need of correction.

 If you configure things so both /etc/environment *and* ~/.profile affect
 the same variable, then ~/.profile is likely to win, because (as far
 as I know) it is executed later than /etc/environment.  I would try to
 avoid relying on that ordering, though.
 
 What you are describing about /etc/environment takes effect if
 there is no .profile is not how things are supposed to work.

 If you have a situation where the existence of a file ~/.profile
 suppresses the use of ~/.pam_environment at login, I need a clear
 description of steps to reproduce so I can look into it...

Both get used. 

Regards,
/Lars

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Re: ~/.profile vs ~/.pam_environment

2013-06-14 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Lars Nooden wrote:

 On Fri, 14 Jun 2013, Jonathan Marsden wrote:

 no instead of relationship between them.  I don't understand why
 you think there is.  /etc/environment (and ~/.pam_environment) will
 be used (via PAM) whether or not .profile exists for the user
 concerned.  One is executed by PAM, one is executed by a login shell.

 It seems to be explained as an instead of situation in the wiki:

  
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Session-wide_environment_variables

Well, I think that page describes many places where you can set
environment variables, and recommends which one to use for different
situations. But nowhere does it say if *this* file exists, *that* other
file won't be used, which is what you were saying was happening (I
think).  The wiki page says (to me) that all of those files will be
used, if they exist, in different ways and at slightly different times.

How would you re-word the wiki text to make it clearer that these files
do not interfere with or suppress each other?

Jonathan
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Nova-tuner a system optimization tool

2013-06-14 Thread Alexis Lopez Zubieta
Hello:

I would like to introduce an application that I have been developing for 
the Nova Light Linux distribution (see 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_%28operating_system%29). It is a sort 
of system tuner that offers a simple interface to optimize some aspects 
of a GNU/Linux distribution derived from Debian (such has Lubuntu). 
The source code is available at 
git://github.com/azubieta/nova-tunner.git.

It can be used on firstboot in order to optimize the system and remove 
unnecesary 
services, run prelink, remove ttys and define the swappines criteria.

I hope it could be useful to you.

Best wishes

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Nova Light Development Team http://www.nova.cu 
Alexis López Zubieta azubi...@estudiantes.uci.cu 


http://www.uci.cu

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