Re: [midgard] Preferred way to enable alternate database backend.

2000-05-23 Thread Alexander Bokovoy

Ami Ganguli wrote:
 
 Does anybody have a preference as to how an alternate database backend should
 be selected?  I can think of three options:
 
 1. Alter mgd_init to take the name of a dynamic library as a parameter.  The
 library would hold database specific functions.  I think this is best but it
 would require an API change.
 
 2. A compile time option to select one backend only.
 
 3. A totally separate library with separate source tree.
 
 The list is roughly in order from best to worst, and most difficult to least
 difficult IMHO.
 
 Let me know what you think.
Midgard-dev had serious thread about database driver layer in May, you
may look in archives at mar.theaimsgroup.com/?l=midgard-dev or at
experimental Bergius' rewrite of the MPRy site
http://bergie.greywolves.org:8081/archive/midgard-dev/
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[midgard] HELP mod-midgard compile, redhat linux v6.1

2000-05-23 Thread Burness,Phil

I have compiled and installed successfully midgard-lib and installed midgard
data as per the install instructions. While trying to configure mod_midgard
I get the following error message
checking for mgd_connect in -lmidgard... no

I have run ldconfig -p | grep midgard and have the following response
libmidgard.so.2 (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libmidgard.so.2
libmidgard.so (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libmidgard.so

I have tried to run the configure script with the --with-midgard=/usr/local
and I have set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to /usr/local/lib but to no
avail.

can somebody please advise what is happening?

Thanks

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Principal Engineer - Foxboro GB Ltd.
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[midgard] question

2000-05-23 Thread Verbeek

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RE: [midgard] HELP mod-midgard compile, redhat linux v6.1

2000-05-23 Thread Burness,Phil


From the midgard web page - documentation - FAQ there is a what to do if you
get a mdg_* error. I have a feeling it is because the standard redhat rpm
distributions of MySQL do not use shared libraries and midgard is expecting
them. I have tried to force the use of the static library and this has faile
also, so I am now recompiling the MySQL code to enable static libraries and
then try again. I will let you know how I get on

Phil
 -Original Message-
 From: Houben,G.J.J. (Geert) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 11:09 AM
 To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject:  RE: [midgard] HELP mod-midgard compile, redhat linux v6.1
 
 Hello Phil,
 
 I have exactely the same problem as youm if I know how to fix it, I will
 let
 you know.
 And if you find out, can you send me an email too?
 
 Thanx
 
 Geert
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Burness,Phil [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   dinsdag 23 mei 2000 9:56
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject:[midgard] HELP mod-midgard compile, redhat linux v6.1
  
  I have compiled and installed successfully midgard-lib and installed
  midgard
  data as per the install instructions. While trying to configure
  mod_midgard
  I get the following error message
  checking for mgd_connect in -lmidgard... no
  
  I have run ldconfig -p | grep midgard and have the following response
  libmidgard.so.2 (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libmidgard.so.2
  libmidgard.so (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libmidgard.so
  
  I have tried to run the configure script with the
  --with-midgard=/usr/local
  and I have set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to /usr/local/lib but to no
  avail.
  
  can somebody please advise what is happening?
  
  Thanks
  
  Philip Burness
  Principal Engineer - Foxboro GB Ltd.
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  Fax +44(0) 1925 831690
  email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
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Re: [midgard] HELP mod-midgard compile, redhat linux v6.1

2000-05-23 Thread David Guerizec

Hi,

If you get a message saying that libmidgard is not available, it may be that
you didn't install properly the MySQL-shared-*.rpm package.
The best and easiest way is to install MySQL from RPM. All you have to do
after is to configure and install Midgard.

Here is how I compile on my RH6.1 box:
in lib: ./configure --with-sitegroups
then make install
then ldconfig
in mod: ./configure
then make install
in php:
./configure --with-apxs --with-apache=/usr/ --with-mysql=/usr/ --with-midgar
d
then make install
then /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart

Another thing to know on RH distributions is that apxs contains a bug.
you have to change the $CFG_LIBEXECDIR variable (line 81) to :
my $CFG_LIBEXECDIR = '/usr/lib/apache';

But after the first install of mod_midgard and midgard-php, you'll have to
change the httpd.conf to replace the lines:
LoadModule php3_module lib/apache/libphp3.so
LoadModule midgard_module lib/apache/mod_midgard.so
by the lines:
LoadModule php3_module modules/libphp3.so
LoadModule midgard_module modules/mod_midgard.so

If this did not solve your problem, please send the exact error message.

Best regards,
David

  -Original Message-
  From: Houben,G.J.J. (Geert) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 11:09 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [midgard] HELP mod-midgard compile, redhat linux v6.1
 
  Hello Phil,
 
  I have exactely the same problem as youm if I know how to fix it, I will
  let
  you know.
  And if you find out, can you send me an email too?
 
  Thanx
 
  Geert
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Burness,Phil [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: dinsdag 23 mei 2000 9:56
   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   Subject: [midgard] HELP mod-midgard compile, redhat linux v6.1
  
   I have compiled and installed successfully midgard-lib and installed
   midgard
   data as per the install instructions. While trying to configure
   mod_midgard
   I get the following error message
   checking for mgd_connect in -lmidgard... no
  
   I have run ldconfig -p | grep midgard and have the following response
   libmidgard.so.2 (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libmidgard.so.2
   libmidgard.so (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libmidgard.so
  
   I have tried to run the configure script with the
   --with-midgard=/usr/local
   and I have set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to /usr/local/lib but to
no
   avail.
  
   can somebody please advise what is happening?
  
   Thanks
  
   Philip Burness
   Principal Engineer - Foxboro GB Ltd.
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   Fax +44(0) 1925 831690
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RE: [midgard] HELP mod-midgard compile, redhat linux v6.1

2000-05-23 Thread Burness,Phil

having rebuilt the midgard-lib after installing the mysql shared  libs the
mod-midgard package configured and installed OK. I am now compiling the php
module as per davids email.

Thanks for the help david, and good luck geert.

Phil

 -Original Message-
 From: Burness,Phil [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 11:16 AM
 To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject:  RE: [midgard] HELP mod-midgard compile, redhat linux v6.1
 
 
 From the midgard web page - documentation - FAQ there is a what to do if
 you
 get a mdg_* error. I have a feeling it is because the standard redhat rpm
 distributions of MySQL do not use shared libraries and midgard is
 expecting
 them. I have tried to force the use of the static library and this has
 faile
 also, so I am now recompiling the MySQL code to enable static libraries
 and
 then try again. I will let you know how I get on
 
 Phil
  -Original Message-
  From:   Houben,G.J.J. (Geert) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Tuesday, May 23, 2000 11:09 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject:RE: [midgard] HELP mod-midgard compile, redhat linux v6.1
  
  Hello Phil,
  
  I have exactely the same problem as youm if I know how to fix it, I will
  let
  you know.
  And if you find out, can you send me an email too?
  
  Thanx
  
  Geert
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Burness,Phil [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: dinsdag 23 mei 2000 9:56
   To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   Subject:  [midgard] HELP mod-midgard compile, redhat linux v6.1
   
   I have compiled and installed successfully midgard-lib and installed
   midgard
   data as per the install instructions. While trying to configure
   mod_midgard
   I get the following error message
   checking for mgd_connect in -lmidgard... no
   
   I have run ldconfig -p | grep midgard and have the following response
   libmidgard.so.2 (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libmidgard.so.2
   libmidgard.so (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libmidgard.so
   
   I have tried to run the configure script with the
   --with-midgard=/usr/local
   and I have set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to /usr/local/lib but to
 no
   avail.
   
   can somebody please advise what is happening?
   
   Thanks
   
   Philip Burness
   Principal Engineer - Foxboro GB Ltd.
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   Fax +44(0) 1925 831690
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[midgard] Re: [Re: [midgard] Preferred way to enable alternate database backend.]

2000-05-23 Thread Ami Ganguli

Alexander Bokovoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Midgard-dev had serious thread about database driver layer in May, you
 may look in archives at mar.theaimsgroup.com/?l=midgard-dev or at
 experimental Bergius' rewrite of the MPRy site

Thanks.  I'll dig through the archive.

I can't seem to find the subscribe instructions for midgard-dev on the web
site.  Am I missing something?

... Ami.


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Re: [midgard] Re: [Re: [midgard] Preferred way to enable alternate database backend.]

2000-05-23 Thread Alexander Bokovoy

Hello Ami,
Tuesday, May 23, 2000, 10:54:41 AM, you wrote:
 Alexander Bokovoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Midgard-dev had serious thread about database driver layer in May, you
 may look in archives at mar.theaimsgroup.com/?l=midgard-dev or at
 experimental Bergius' rewrite of the MPRy site
 Thanks.  I'll dig through the archive.
 I can't seem to find the subscribe instructions for midgard-dev on the web
 site.  Am I missing something?
They are the same for 'midgard' list. Send a letter with
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[midgard] sql script to rip a site?

2000-05-23 Thread Frank Boehme

Hi

Sorry, I can't access the mailing list archive right now (too slow),
which has often proved a valuable source for finding answers...

What I am after is this: Has anyone written a sql script that creates a
_partial_ dump of the midgard database so that all required table
entries belonging to a given midgard site can be ripped off and later
loaded into another midgard database on another server? I understand
that this is a little complicated. Not only should such a script find
all styles, sub-pages, page elements, topic trees etc which the root
page depends on, it also has to make sure that the stuff can be
re-loaded using unique id numbers for all objects, because the ids used
at the original server may already be in use at the target server.

Currently, I use mysqldump to backup the full midgard database. But what
if I want to sites around?

Frank

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Re: [midgard] Midgard basic site .pdf file mistakes

2000-05-23 Thread Dariusz Debowczyk

Some fixes were made to the PDF version of the tutorial. Henri has got the
file and I hope it would be placed somewhere on the site. Online version of
tutorial will be updated ASAP (this weekend, I think).

Regards
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Re: [midgard] question

2000-05-23 Thread parker

Hi,

On Tue, 23 May 2000, Verbeek wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I'm developping a portal-like website. I want to use a content management
 system like application for this.

Midgard can do this.

 Is it possible to run midgart on a Win 98 machine and then ftp the pages to
 a unix server?

Midgard doesn't run on Windows. Although you can administrate Midgard from
any computer that runs a browser. I believe you can view an example of the
Midgard administration site at http://www.marlowes.com. If that's the
wrong location you can search midgard-project.org for the example site. 


 I it isn't does anyone have suggestions for an application? I can't find
 anything that lets me work on Win 98 and host on unix.

You'll have to install Midgard on a Unix, BSD, OS-X, or Linux server.

Ron

 Thank
 
 Bart Verbeek
 


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Re: [midgard] Outsider's Notes

2000-05-23 Thread Frank Boehme

"Hellekin O. Wolf" wrote:

 I've been trying in vain to install Midgard for months on a Linux box.

This is very sad. Sorry, I didn't have much trouble when I installed
from source. But it took me some more time to figure out how to actually
use it. You know, to get the basic concepts...

 I tried the tarballs, src.RPMs, RPMs...
 I tried to do it on a custom install, on a fresh install,

I don't think that midgard is more complicated an application to install
than, lets say, a window manager. The thing is, that midgard is closely
dependend on well configured other components (apache, mysql and its
client lib...), which is anyway common unix philosophy.

I don't believe much in rpms or binary stuff, for several reasons. So
what exactly went wrong when you tried to compile from scratch?

There are some possible pitfalls. From the postings to this list, I
gradually know some of them. For instance, certain versions of mysql per
default install libmysqlclient to /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so
which is hardly found by another configure script. You may not notice
this until you install the first program which requires this lib. Now,
when you try to compile mod_midgard, the error message you get makes you
think that libmidgard is not found, but the real cause is
libmysqlclient.

So which error did you get?


sorry for your trouble,

Frank
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Re: [midgard] Outsider's Notes

2000-05-23 Thread Sébastien Bernard

I totally agree on Mr Wolf statement.
I would LOVE to check Migard, in order to include it on an unborn yet
portal project, but the install is so painfull !
I will try to continue a little bit, but time is running so fast.
Dommage.



On 23 May 2000, at 17:24, Hellekin O. Wolf wrote:

 Hello ppl,

 I've been trying in vain to install Midgard for months on a Linux box.

 I tried the tarballs, src.RPMs, RPMs...
 I tried to do it on a custom install, on a fresh install,
 following docs, reading FAQs, doing step by step, etc.

 It never installed in a row.
 I always had to dig into the configuration and source code
 to make it work. As a result, I didn't have the opportunity to
 really use it and that's unfortunate because Midgard
 seems to be the only appserver in PHP, and a competitor to Zope.

 As Midgard requires a special Apache+PHP configuration, I would hope
 that it would be painless to install and run. I hope you can improve
 the installation part in the future.

 Note that in version 1.3 there is a mistake in midgard.c, line 613
 which prevent it from compiling : one must add a semi-colon ";" at the
 end of the line.

 Finally, I decided not to use it until a more mature version appears.
 I hope to see it soon. The fact is that I won't choose Midgard as a
 tool of choice for my company's intranet. I'm sorry about that and
 would like to use it, but...

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Re: [midgard] Outsider's Notes

2000-05-23 Thread Sébastien Bernard

Thanks Frank for your proposal !

First question I have to post to the list:
May I install midgard on a red hat 6.0 linux ?
If yes, then I start again tomorrow.
If Not, then I will get a 6.2 Friday morning.

Maybe there is a better choice than Red Hat ?




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RE: [midgard] question

2000-05-23 Thread Nick Rohrlach


 Midgard doesn't run on Windows. Although you can administrate Midgard from
 any computer that runs a browser. I believe you can view an example of the
 Midgard administration site at http://www.marlowes.com. If that's the
 wrong location you can search midgard-project.org for the example site.

To make life easier - http://midgard-demo.marlowes.com

Nick


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Re: [midgard] Outsider's Notes

2000-05-23 Thread Frank Boehme

Sébastien Bernard wrote:

 First question I have to post to the list:
 May I install midgard on a red hat 6.0 linux ?
 If yes, then I start again tomorrow.
 If Not, then I will get a 6.2 Friday morning.

I don't know redhat, but I don't think there is a problem anywhere. If
it comes with badly configured packages then you can always de-install
apache and mysql from the distribution and start by installing these two
from source. There is a nice script out which installs apache+php3+mysql
without hassle from source. (search freshmeat). Don't worry about php
being overwritten later on by midgard's php, but this way you have
automatically mod_php enabled in apache.

 Maybe there is a better choice than Red Hat ?

I have SuSE 6.2. I left its original apache but I installed mysql from
source, because the SuSE version was outdated.

Frank

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RE: [midgard] Outsider's Notes

2000-05-23 Thread Ken Pooley

My experience with installing midgard on RH6.1 was pretty straight 
forward...I did use the RPMs and ran into a few little things but other 
than that it was fab...I have been running the server with 1.2.5 since 
November...no problems...I did uninstall apache and Mysql and start from 
scratch...( I backed all of the Mysql data up).

let me know if I can help

kp

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Subject:Re: [midgard] Outsider's Notes

Thanks Frank for your proposal !

First question I have to post to the list:
May I install midgard on a red hat 6.0 linux ?
If yes, then I start again tomorrow.
If Not, then I will get a 6.2 Friday morning.

Maybe there is a better choice than Red Hat ?




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Re: [midgard] Outsider's Notes

2000-05-23 Thread Sébastien Bernard

Thanks for your help.
I will start tonight (or tomorrow), from a clean 6.0 RH.
I found this http://freshmeat.net/appindex/2000/01/15/947957015.html, a
compile kit, i am not sure it is this one, because you say there is mysql in
it, and I dont see, but I am not sure.
I will try it asap.


On 23 May 2000, at 17:18, Frank Boehme wrote:

 Sébastien Bernard wrote:

  First question I have to post to the list:
  May I install midgard on a red hat 6.0 linux ?
  If yes, then I start again tomorrow.
  If Not, then I will get a 6.2 Friday morning.

 I don't know redhat, but I don't think there is a problem anywhere. If
 it comes with badly configured packages then you can always de-install
 apache and mysql from the distribution and start by installing these
 two from source. There is a nice script out which installs
 apache+php3+mysql without hassle from source. (search freshmeat).
 Don't worry about php being overwritten later on by midgard's php, but
 this way you have automatically mod_php enabled in apache.

  Maybe there is a better choice than Red Hat ?

 I have SuSE 6.2. I left its original apache but I installed mysql from
 source, because the SuSE version was outdated.

 Frank

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