Re: Filter NTP traffic by packet size?

2014-02-21 Thread Harlan Stenn
Dobbins, Roland writes:

 Operators are using this size-based filtering to effect without
 breaking the world.

As a reality check, with this filtering in place does ntptrace still
work?

H



Re: question about AS relationship

2014-02-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, February 21, 2014 08:57:07 AM Song Li wrote:

 the AS relationship between AS1 and AS2/3 is peer, and
 AS1 cannot announce routes from AS3 to provider1 by
 rule.

Or even Peer-AS2's routes to Peer-AS3 (and vice versa), in 
general best practice filtering rules, unless transit is 
requested.

 But if AS1 do it, and the realtionship between AS1
 and AS3 is invisible to provider1, how can provider1
 detect this route leak without knowing the privacy?

Provider-1 wouldn't care whether it's a route leak or not. 
In Provider-1's mind, Peer-AS3 could (suddenly) be a 
customer of AS1. And since AS1 is a customer of Provider-1, 
Provider-1 will be happy to move those packets along as it 
represents more revenue for Provider-1 (more so if traffic 
is sold on a 95th percentile or volume utilization basis).

It is, really, up to AS3 to detect that AS1 has leaked its 
routes (or paths, to be precise) to Provider-1, and then 
pick up the phone and scream at AS1 to get that leak fixed 
plugged.

Of course, all of this is a moot point if Provider-1 is a 
good provider and makes sure they only accept routes and 
paths from AS3 that AS3 should be sending to Provider-1 in 
the first place. But as we know, some providers are a bit 
(actually, very) lazy here.

 In other words, could the business relationship between
 AS1 and AS3 be known to provider1/2?

Not really (or not that easily, to be specific).

With enough time and access to several looking glasses and 
public route servers, one could infer (to a certain degree 
of error) business relationships between peering 
relationships, i.e., whether they relationships are 
customer, peer or provider.

But in your particular case, unless AS3 has a direct 
connection toward Provider-1/2 (where a route leak would 
introduce more problems), Provider-1/2 don't really care 
about whether this is a leak or not from AS1.

But again, this whole discussion is mooted if Provider-1/2 
do proper background checks and filtering before they turn-
up the service for AS1.

Mark.


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Atlanta - Patch Cables

2014-02-21 Thread Bobby Lacey
In Atlanta doing an install for a client this weekend and it appears that
the fiber/ethernet patch cables won't be delivered in time from supplier.
Would anyone know of a good resource for patch cables (both fiber and
ethernet) in the metro area? Just wondering if there are any other
resources for these? Frys?

Offlist please. Thank you!

Bobby


Re: question about AS relationship

2014-02-21 Thread Song Li

Thanks. I'm doing some research on route leaks, you are a great help to me.

Sky li


On Friday, February 21, 2014 08:57:07 AM Song Li wrote:


the AS relationship between AS1 and AS2/3 is peer, and
AS1 cannot announce routes from AS3 to provider1 by
rule.


Or even Peer-AS2's routes to Peer-AS3 (and vice versa), in
general best practice filtering rules, unless transit is
requested.


But if AS1 do it, and the realtionship between AS1
and AS3 is invisible to provider1, how can provider1
detect this route leak without knowing the privacy?


Provider-1 wouldn't care whether it's a route leak or not.
In Provider-1's mind, Peer-AS3 could (suddenly) be a
customer of AS1. And since AS1 is a customer of Provider-1,
Provider-1 will be happy to move those packets along as it
represents more revenue for Provider-1 (more so if traffic
is sold on a 95th percentile or volume utilization basis).

It is, really, up to AS3 to detect that AS1 has leaked its
routes (or paths, to be precise) to Provider-1, and then
pick up the phone and scream at AS1 to get that leak fixed
plugged.

Of course, all of this is a moot point if Provider-1 is a
good provider and makes sure they only accept routes and
paths from AS3 that AS3 should be sending to Provider-1 in
the first place. But as we know, some providers are a bit
(actually, very) lazy here.


In other words, could the business relationship between
AS1 and AS3 be known to provider1/2?


Not really (or not that easily, to be specific).

With enough time and access to several looking glasses and
public route servers, one could infer (to a certain degree
of error) business relationships between peering
relationships, i.e., whether they relationships are
customer, peer or provider.

But in your particular case, unless AS3 has a direct
connection toward Provider-1/2 (where a route leak would
introduce more problems), Provider-1/2 don't really care
about whether this is a leak or not from AS1.

But again, this whole discussion is mooted if Provider-1/2
do proper background checks and filtering before they turn-
up the service for AS1.

Mark.




--
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Room 4-204, FIT Building,
Network Security,
Department of Electronic Engineering,
Tsinghua University, Beijing 100084, China
Tel:( +86) 010-62446440
E-mail: refresh.ls...@gmail.com



Re: comcast business service

2014-02-21 Thread rwebb


Biggest unknown at this point is your upstream SNR. If there is noise 
ingress somewhere in the plant, then your upstream could be having all 
kinds of issues.



Robert

On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 05:23:07 -0500
 shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:

Works:

Downstream Channel
Downstream Frequency52500 Hz56100 Hz56700 Hz57300 
Hz57900 Hz

Lock StatusLockedLockedLockedLockedLocked
Modulation256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM
Symbol Rate5.360537 Msym/sec5.360537 Msym/sec5.360537 
Msym/sec5.360537

Msym/sec5.360537 Msym/sec
Downstream Power 2.2 dBmV 3.8 dBmV 3.0 dBmV 2.9 dBmV 2.9 dBmV
SNR41.2 dBmV40.8 dBmV40.5 dBmV40.9 dBmV41.0 dBmV
Upstream Channel
Upstream Frequency3600 Hz2940 Hz2280 Hz0 Hz
Lock StatusLockedLockedLockedNot Locked
ModulationATDMAATDMAATDMAUnknown
Symbol Rate5120 sym/sec5120 sym/sec5120 sym/sec0 sym/sec
Upstream Power46.2 dBmV46.2 dBmV46.2 dBmV0 dBmV

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9013ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 23.066/27.049/35.627/4.825 ms

Not working:

Downstream Channel
Downstream Frequency52500 Hz56100 Hz56700 Hz57300 
Hz57900 Hz

Lock StatusLockedLockedLockedLockedLocked
Modulation256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM
Symbol Rate5.360537 Msym/sec5.360537 Msym/sec5.360537 
Msym/sec5.360537

Msym/sec5.360537 Msym/sec
Downstream Power 2.2 dBmV 3.8 dBmV 2.9 dBmV 2.8 dBmV 2.9 dBmV
SNR41.4 dBmV40.8 dBmV40.4 dBmV41.0 dBmV41.3 dBmV
Upstream Channel
Upstream Frequency3600 Hz2940 Hz2280 Hz0 Hz
Lock StatusLockedLockedLockedNot Locked
ModulationATDMAATDMAATDMAUnknown
Symbol Rate5120 sym/sec5120 sym/sec5120 sym/sec0 sym/sec
Upstream Power46.5 dBmV46.5 dBmV46.5 dBmV0 dBmV

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
233 packets transmitted, 232 received, 0% packet loss, time 232884ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 23.431/1918.702/8758.161/2017.033 ms, pipe 9

I'm not seeing any big difference in SNR (and only slight 
differences

in upstream power) and everything else seems to be the same. Though,
since db is logarithmic, .3 might be enough to matter?

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Dan Shoop sh...@iwiring.net 
wrote:


On Feb 20, 2014, at 4:08 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com 
wrote:



A while ago I got Comcast's business service. Semi-idle connections
are get dropped (I haven't really diagnosed this - I just no that it
isn't the client or server but some network in between). However the
second and most obvious issue is that intermittently, the service 
will

grind to a halt:
--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
37 packets transmitted, 34 received, 8% packet loss, time 36263ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 398.821/5989.160/14407.055/3808.068 ms, pipe 
15


After a modem reboot, it goes normal:
--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 23.181/23.920/24.298/0.474 ms

This seems to happen about once or twice a day. I can't attribute it
to any type of traffic or number of connections. All of the rest of
the network equipment is the same and the behavior persists when a
computer is plugged directly into the modem. I called Comcast and 
they
said they didn't see anything even when I was experiencing 
ridiculous
ping times. I tend to think it's an issue with the 'modem' but I'm 
not
sure what the issue might be or how to reproduce it when asked to if 
I

tell them to look at it.


I’ve seen this happen before with various cable ISPs. I’d concur 
with the poster suggesting intermittent noise on the cable segment as 
a likely culprit. Also if you have a cable modem that binds multiple 
channels for higher bandwidth this can also be problematic, 
especially with the noise. Signals will look good to the NOC but it’s 
not the signal “level that’s the issue it’s the signal to noise 
level. Noise has to be measured locally and techs don’t always check 
SNL.


Also check to see if the packets aren’t actually being dropped but 
just taking longer than ping is looking for. Also check for out of 
sequence packets returned. These can indicate flapping of a bonded 
circuit or the bonded circuit experiencing noise. Try seeing if you 
disconnect everything and get a straight run to the demarc, with a 
know and tested out good cable, if the problem doesn’t ever occur. 
This could indicate noise on the cable in your premise. But I’ve 
experienced this same problem with noise coming through the demarc. 
I’ve also seen levels too hot beyond the demarc causing similar 
problems too.


HTH.


-d

-

Dan Shoop
sh...@iwiring.net
1-646-402-5293 (GoogleVoice)











out of band management gear

2014-02-21 Thread Hank Disuko
Hi folks, 
I wonder if anyone has good experiences to share with out-of-band hardware?
I'm looking for a good OOB hardware vendor.  I need to manage my 
routers/switches/firewalls in a datacenter located overseas, and I'm looking to 
setup a good serial console server via an OOB link.
I've been looking at Lantronix, OpenGear, Raritan...but they all seem to have 
the same basic features.  I'm having trouble really differentiating them.
I'm interested in analog modem, cellular options for my OOB link.  Or even a 
secondary internet circuit either wired or wifi if the DC has that option 
available.
Any good suggestions or experiences with a current OOB solution out there?  
What are you doing for your OOB management?
thanks,Hank   

Networking folk in the San Diego area...

2014-02-21 Thread John Curran
NANOGers - 
 
  Just a reminder that there is a ARIN+NANOG on the Road session taking place
  in San Diego next week; the day long program has NANOG  and ARIN speakers 
  and is free but advance registration is recommended.   If you know anyone who 
  might benefit from attending such an event, please bring it to their 
attention!

  For more information, see Betty's announcement here: 

http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog-announce/2014-February/000215.html

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN






Re: level3_bx4-montrealak.net consistently dropping 50% of the packets

2014-02-21 Thread James Michael Keller

On 02/20/2014 10:08 AM, Nick Cameo wrote:

Hello Everyone,

According to mtr command we are consistently seeing
level3_bx4-montrealak.net
dropping 30-50% of packets. Our ISP is Bell Canada. Any ideas on how to get
this resolved are greatly appreciated.


HOST: victoriaLoss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
   1.|-- 192.168.2.10.0%100.5   0.8   0.4   1.6   0.5
   2.|-- lns2-montrealak_lo0_LNS.n  0.0%106.7   7.6   6.7   8.8   0.7
   3.|-- agg1-montrealak_GE0-2-2_1  0.0%106.4   6.3   5.4   7.6   0.6
   4.|-- bx4-montrealak_so-0-0-0.n  0.0%106.0   5.8   4.9   7.0   0.7
   5.|-- level3_bx4-montrealak.net 50.0%106.5   6.7   5.7   7.9   0.8
   6.|-- ae-11-11.car1.Montreal2.L  0.0%10   92.2  91.7  91.0  92.8   0.7
   7.|-- ae-5-5.ebr2.NewYork1.Leve  0.0%10   90.9  92.0  90.9  92.7   0.6


Kind Regards,

Nick.



I you do not see as high or higher packet loss reported at the hops 
after, all you are seeing is control plane filtering / rate limiting on 
that router.


--

-James




Re: level3_bx4-montrealak.net consistently dropping 50% of the packets

2014-02-21 Thread Nick Cameo
Thank you all for clarifying. Really appreciate it.



Re: out of band management gear

2014-02-21 Thread Bryan Socha
We have both lantronix and opengear hardware and use the og brand almost
exclusively now.   Good price, extremely reliable.  We have about 200 of
them.
On Feb 21, 2014 9:41 AM, Hank Disuko gourmetci...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi folks,
 I wonder if anyone has good experiences to share with out-of-band hardware?
 I'm looking for a good OOB hardware vendor.  I need to manage my
 routers/switches/firewalls in a datacenter located overseas, and I'm
 looking to setup a good serial console server via an OOB link.
 I've been looking at Lantronix, OpenGear, Raritan...but they all seem to
 have the same basic features.  I'm having trouble really differentiating
 them.
 I'm interested in analog modem, cellular options for my OOB link.  Or even
 a secondary internet circuit either wired or wifi if the DC has that option
 available.
 Any good suggestions or experiences with a current OOB solution out there?
  What are you doing for your OOB management?
 thanks,Hank


Re: comcast business service

2014-02-21 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:23 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not seeing any big difference in SNR (and only slight differences
 in upstream power) and everything else seems to be the same. Though,
 since db is logarithmic, .3 might be enough to matter?

Do you also receive an _analog_ television signal from Comcast? How's
the picture? Any ghosting, blurring or white noise? Any difference
between working times and non-working times for your Internet service?
Any difference if you connect directly to their entry cable without
allowing it to touch the cable in your facility?

Regards,
Bill Herrin


-- 
William D. Herrin  her...@dirtside.com  b...@herrin.us
3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/
Falls Church, VA 22042-3004



Re: out of band management gear

2014-02-21 Thread Kenneth McRae
Using open gear exclusively now...no real issues with it.

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Hank Disuko gourmetci...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks, 
 I wonder if anyone has good experiences to share with out-of-band hardware?
 I'm looking for a good OOB hardware vendor.  I need to manage my 
 routers/switches/firewalls in a datacenter located overseas, and I'm looking 
 to setup a good serial console server via an OOB link.
 I've been looking at Lantronix, OpenGear, Raritan...but they all seem to have 
 the same basic features.  I'm having trouble really differentiating them.
 I'm interested in analog modem, cellular options for my OOB link.  Or even a 
 secondary internet circuit either wired or wifi if the DC has that option 
 available.
 Any good suggestions or experiences with a current OOB solution out there?  
 What are you doing for your OOB management?
 thanks,Hank 



Re: out of band management gear

2014-02-21 Thread Brian Loveland
Same here, dozens of opengear devices deployed, about half with cellular,
only issue we ever had 1 DOA (not totally dead, but behaving really badly)
unit and they sent an overnight replacement since we were on the road
visiting a remote site.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Kenneth McRae kenneth.mc...@me.comwrote:

 Using open gear exclusively now...no real issues with it.

 Sent from my iPad

  On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Hank Disuko gourmetci...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi folks,
  I wonder if anyone has good experiences to share with out-of-band
 hardware?
  I'm looking for a good OOB hardware vendor.  I need to manage my
 routers/switches/firewalls in a datacenter located overseas, and I'm
 looking to setup a good serial console server via an OOB link.
  I've been looking at Lantronix, OpenGear, Raritan...but they all seem to
 have the same basic features.  I'm having trouble really differentiating
 them.
  I'm interested in analog modem, cellular options for my OOB link.  Or
 even a secondary internet circuit either wired or wifi if the DC has that
 option available.
  Any good suggestions or experiences with a current OOB solution out
 there?  What are you doing for your OOB management?
  thanks,Hank




Re: VMware Training

2014-02-21 Thread Phil Gardner

On 02/19/2014 01:14 PM, Phil Gardner wrote:

Not sure if this list is the best place, but it is probably the only
list that I'm on that won't give me a bunch of grief about the chosen
technology.

I looked at VMware's site, and there are a ton of options. I'm wondering
if anyone has some basic suggestions or experiences.

I'm a Linux admin by trade (RH based), with ok networking ability. I'm
sufficiently versed in deploying scripted ESXi (including 5.x)
installations for a specific environment, including vswitches/SAN config
(but only with NFS datastores backed by a NetApp, unfortunately, no
blockbased stores).

I'd like to get experience deploying VCenter clusters, down to DRS/HA
config, other block based storage, and anything else a large environment
needs.

Thoughts or experiences?



Thanks for the responses everyone. I will be petitioning my manager for 
the vShpere: Install, Configure, Manage v5.5 course.


My homelab currently consists of a custom dual opteron box with lots of 
disk, an HP P2000, and a massive CoRAID array. Looks like I'll have to 
scrounge up a couple other hosts for ESXi since my custom system is 
running CentOS, and ESXi under KVM still looks like a no-go.


--
_
Phil Gardner
PGP Key ID 0xFECC890C
OTR Fingerprint 6707E9B8 BD6062D3 5010FE8B 36D614E3 D2F80538



Re: VMware Training

2014-02-21 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Phil Gardner phil.gardne...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 02/19/2014 01:14 PM, Phil Gardner wrote:

 Not sure if this list is the best place, but it is probably the only
 list that I'm on that won't give me a bunch of grief about the chosen
 technology.

 I looked at VMware's site, and there are a ton of options. I'm wondering
 if anyone has some basic suggestions or experiences.

 I'm a Linux admin by trade (RH based), with ok networking ability. I'm
 sufficiently versed in deploying scripted ESXi (including 5.x)
 installations for a specific environment, including vswitches/SAN config
 (but only with NFS datastores backed by a NetApp, unfortunately, no
 blockbased stores).

 I'd like to get experience deploying VCenter clusters, down to DRS/HA
 config, other block based storage, and anything else a large environment
 needs.

 Thoughts or experiences?


 Thanks for the responses everyone. I will be petitioning my manager for
 the vShpere: Install, Configure, Manage v5.5 course.


As a note to this, if you get it approved, make sure that the trainer has
(a lot of) real life experience implementing vSphere. It makes a big
difference when you run into trouble with the labs or when you have
questions that are related to best practices.

Eugeniu


Weekly Routing Table Report

2014-02-21 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet
Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan.

The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG,
TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group.

Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net

For historical data, please see http://thyme.rand.apnic.net.

If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith pfsi...@gmail.com.

Routing Table Report   04:00 +10GMT Sat 22 Feb, 2014

Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net
Detailed Analysis:  http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/

Analysis Summary


BGP routing table entries examined:  483198
Prefixes after maximum aggregation:  191729
Deaggregation factor:  2.52
Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 239336
Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 46226
Prefixes per ASN: 10.45
Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:   35611
Origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   16405
Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:6049
Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:173
Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table:   4.6
Max AS path length visible:  53
Max AS path prepend of ASN ( 50404)  51
Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table:  1881
Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 488
Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs:   5975
Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:4566
Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table:   14720
Number of bogon 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 4
Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table:0
Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space:435
Number of addresses announced to Internet:   2657187844
Equivalent to 158 /8s, 97 /16s and 120 /24s
Percentage of available address space announced:   71.8
Percentage of allocated address space announced:   71.8
Percentage of available address space allocated:  100.0
Percentage of address space in use by end-sites:   95.8
Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations:  168859

APNIC Region Analysis Summary
-

Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes:   114566
Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation:   34472
APNIC Deaggregation factor:3.32
Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks:  117125
Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks:49266
APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:4889
APNIC Prefixes per ASN:   23.96
APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   1225
APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:849
Average APNIC Region AS path length visible:4.6
Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 37
Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:843
Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet:  731163776
Equivalent to 43 /8s, 148 /16s and 172 /24s
Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 85.5

APNIC AS Blocks4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431
(pre-ERX allocations)  23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319,
   58368-59391, 63488-63999, 131072-133631
APNIC Address Blocks 1/8,  14/8,  27/8,  36/8,  39/8,  42/8,  43/8,
49/8,  58/8,  59/8,  60/8,  61/8, 101/8, 103/8,
   106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8,
   116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8,
   123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8,
   163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8,
   203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8,
   222/8, 223/8,

ARIN Region Analysis Summary


Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes:165378
Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation:82750
ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.00
Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks:   166722
Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 77354
ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:16154
ARIN 

Re: out of band management gear

2014-02-21 Thread Paul S.

Lantronix is pretty solid if it doesn't have issues with your hardware.

I have a bunch of older Dell boxes where turning on virtual media makes 
them stall indefinitely on the boot prompt.


Though, for serial only stuff -- it should be pretty good.

On 2/22/2014 午前 12:39, Bryan Socha wrote:

We have both lantronix and opengear hardware and use the og brand almost
exclusively now.   Good price, extremely reliable.  We have about 200 of
them.
On Feb 21, 2014 9:41 AM, Hank Disuko gourmetci...@hotmail.com wrote:


Hi folks,
I wonder if anyone has good experiences to share with out-of-band hardware?
I'm looking for a good OOB hardware vendor.  I need to manage my
routers/switches/firewalls in a datacenter located overseas, and I'm
looking to setup a good serial console server via an OOB link.
I've been looking at Lantronix, OpenGear, Raritan...but they all seem to
have the same basic features.  I'm having trouble really differentiating
them.
I'm interested in analog modem, cellular options for my OOB link.  Or even
a secondary internet circuit either wired or wifi if the DC has that option
available.
Any good suggestions or experiences with a current OOB solution out there?
  What are you doing for your OOB management?
thanks,Hank





Akamai

2014-02-21 Thread Keith

I just want to publicly say hats off to Akamai today.

We have seen spikes on our Akamai server before, but nothing like it has been
in the last few days with the Canadian hockey live streaming.

IOS7 release from Apple spiked it, but today, almost 800 megs of traffic coming
off our server currently with the mens US/Canada match up.

Tip of the hat to you folks.







Re: Akamai

2014-02-21 Thread Keith
I would have figured an IX like that would have something there? Even BCNet has some 
akamai stuff

within their network.

We are pretty small in the scheme of things and have had Akamai for quite a few years, but 
this is the biggest event we have ever

seen on our server.

On 2/21/2014 10:47 AM, Clayton Zekelman wrote:

Hats off?  They're not even sending the streams through TORIX which seems like 
a big day FAIL to me.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2014-02-21, at 1:39 PM, Keith kwo...@citywest.ca wrote:


I just want to publicly say hats off to Akamai today.

We have seen spikes on our Akamai server before, but nothing like it has been
in the last few days with the Canadian hockey live streaming.

IOS7 release from Apple spiked it, but today, almost 800 megs of traffic coming
off our server currently with the mens US/Canada match up.

Tip of the hat to you folks.










Re: Akamai

2014-02-21 Thread Clayton Zekelman
They have TORIX connections, but they didn't seem to send the stream traffic 
through them.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2014-02-21, at 1:56 PM, Keith kwo...@citywest.ca wrote:

 I would have figured an IX like that would have something there? Even BCNet 
 has some akamai stuff
 within their network.
 
 We are pretty small in the scheme of things and have had Akamai for quite a 
 few years, but this is the biggest event we have ever
 seen on our server.
 
 On 2/21/2014 10:47 AM, Clayton Zekelman wrote:
 Hats off?  They're not even sending the streams through TORIX which seems 
 like a big day FAIL to me.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2014-02-21, at 1:39 PM, Keith kwo...@citywest.ca wrote:
 
 I just want to publicly say hats off to Akamai today.
 
 We have seen spikes on our Akamai server before, but nothing like it has 
 been
 in the last few days with the Canadian hockey live streaming.
 
 IOS7 release from Apple spiked it, but today, almost 800 megs of traffic 
 coming
 off our server currently with the mens US/Canada match up.
 
 Tip of the hat to you folks.
 
 



Re: out of band management gear

2014-02-21 Thread Richard Hesse
We're really pleased with the Perle IOLAN line. They even have a gigabit
port without a $10k price tag. Amazing!

It really dumbfounds me why so many vendors are still putting 10/100
Ethernet ports on their OOB management (looking at you OpenGear).
Especially a PITA today since many switchports today don't support links
speeds less than a gigabit.

-richard


On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Hank Disuko gourmetci...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Hi folks,
 I wonder if anyone has good experiences to share with out-of-band hardware?
 I'm looking for a good OOB hardware vendor.  I need to manage my
 routers/switches/firewalls in a datacenter located overseas, and I'm
 looking to setup a good serial console server via an OOB link.
 I've been looking at Lantronix, OpenGear, Raritan...but they all seem to
 have the same basic features.  I'm having trouble really differentiating
 them.
 I'm interested in analog modem, cellular options for my OOB link.  Or even
 a secondary internet circuit either wired or wifi if the DC has that option
 available.
 Any good suggestions or experiences with a current OOB solution out there?
  What are you doing for your OOB management?
 thanks,Hank


Re: out of band management gear

2014-02-21 Thread Randy Carpenter

OpenGear's newer stuff is Gigabit (SFP even).

I've not seen any real switch made in the last decade that has a problem with 
100Mb/s connections. Ancient cisco, maybe had issues.


thanks,
-Randy

--
Randy Carpenter
Vice President - IT Services
First Network Group, Inc.
(800)578-6381, Opt. 1
http://www.network1.net
http://www.facebook.com/FirstNetworkGroup

- Original Message -
 We're really pleased with the Perle IOLAN line. They even have a gigabit
 port without a $10k price tag. Amazing!
 
 It really dumbfounds me why so many vendors are still putting 10/100
 Ethernet ports on their OOB management (looking at you OpenGear).
 Especially a PITA today since many switchports today don't support links
 speeds less than a gigabit.
 
 -richard
 
 
 On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Hank Disuko gourmetci...@hotmail.comwrote:
 
  Hi folks,
  I wonder if anyone has good experiences to share with out-of-band hardware?
  I'm looking for a good OOB hardware vendor.  I need to manage my
  routers/switches/firewalls in a datacenter located overseas, and I'm
  looking to setup a good serial console server via an OOB link.
  I've been looking at Lantronix, OpenGear, Raritan...but they all seem to
  have the same basic features.  I'm having trouble really differentiating
  them.
  I'm interested in analog modem, cellular options for my OOB link.  Or even
  a secondary internet circuit either wired or wifi if the DC has that option
  available.
  Any good suggestions or experiences with a current OOB solution out there?
   What are you doing for your OOB management?
  thanks,Hank
 
 



Re: Akamai

2014-02-21 Thread Martin Hannigan
Everyone,

We do have an issue at the TorIX.

We have isolated it to a hardware bug impacting our networking and
we're working to get it fixed ASAP. It's not likely to be entirely
fixed prior to the end of the Winter Olympics. We have a workaround
that should allow us to serve more traffic locally again. Apologies.

Best,

-M (20940)




On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Clayton Zekelman clay...@mnsi.net wrote:
 They have TORIX connections, but they didn't seem to send the stream traffic 
 through them.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 2014-02-21, at 1:56 PM, Keith kwo...@citywest.ca wrote:

 I would have figured an IX like that would have something there? Even BCNet 
 has some akamai stuff
 within their network.

 We are pretty small in the scheme of things and have had Akamai for quite a 
 few years, but this is the biggest event we have ever
 seen on our server.

 On 2/21/2014 10:47 AM, Clayton Zekelman wrote:
 Hats off?  They're not even sending the streams through TORIX which seems 
 like a big day FAIL to me.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 2014-02-21, at 1:39 PM, Keith kwo...@citywest.ca wrote:

 I just want to publicly say hats off to Akamai today.

 We have seen spikes on our Akamai server before, but nothing like it has 
 been
 in the last few days with the Canadian hockey live streaming.

 IOS7 release from Apple spiked it, but today, almost 800 megs of traffic 
 coming
 off our server currently with the mens US/Canada match up.

 Tip of the hat to you folks.






Re: out of band management gear

2014-02-21 Thread Jeremy Bresley

On 2/21/2014 2:27 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote:

OpenGear's newer stuff is Gigabit (SFP even).

I've not seen any real switch made in the last decade that has a problem with 
100Mb/s connections. Ancient cisco, maybe had issues.

There's several devices that are 1/10Gb and do NOT support 10/100Mb.  
Cisco Nexus 5000/5500s, Brocade VDX series stuff, etc.


In our new data center, the only 10/100 ports are a couple blades in our 
Nexus 7018s put there just to provide these lower-speed connections to 
devices that needed them.  Expensive options in a fully loaded chassis 
just for a couple lower-end devices that could easily justify a couple 
dollars more to get a Gig PHY instead of the older 100Mb PHY chip.


Jeremy TheBrez Bresley



Re: Filter NTP traffic by packet size?

2014-02-21 Thread Cb B
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Damian Menscher dam...@google.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:

  On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:51 PM, John Weekes j...@nuclearfallout.net wrote:
  On 2/20/2014 12:41 PM, Edward Roels wrote:
  Curious if anyone else thinks filtering out NTP packets above a certain
  packet size is a good or terrible idea.
 
  From my brief testing it seems 90 bytes for IPv4 and 110 bytes for IPv6
 are
  typical for a client to successfully synchronize to an NTP server.
 
  If I query a server for it's list of peers (ntpq -np ip) I've seen
  packets as large as 522 bytes in a single packet in response to a 54
 byte
  query.  I'll admit I'm not 100% clear of the what is happening
  protocol-wise when I perform this query.  I see there are multiple
 packets
  back forth between me and the server depending on the number of peers it
  has?
 
  If your equipment supports this, and you're seeing reflected NTP
 attacks, then it is an effective stopgap to block nearly all of the inbound
 attack traffic to affected hosts. Some still comes through from NTP servers
 running on nonstandard ports, but not much.


 Also, don't forget to ask those sending the attack traffic to trace where
 the spoofed packets ingressed their networks.

   Standard IPv4 NTP response packets are 76 bytes (plus any link-level
 headers), based on my testing. I have been internally filtering packets of
 other sizes against attack targets for some time now with no ill-effect.

 You can filter packets that are 440 bytes in size and it will do a lot to
 help the problem, but make sure you conjoin these with protocol udp and
 port=123 rules to avoid collateral damage.


 Preferably just source-port 123.

 You may also want to look at filtering UDP/80 outright as well, as that is
 commonly used as an I'm going to attack port 80 by attackers that don't
 quite understand the difference between UDP and TCP.


 Please don't filter UDP/80.  It's used by QUIC (
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QUIC).

 Damian

The folks at QUIC have been advised to not use UDP for a new protocol,
and they would be very well advised to not use UDP:80 since that is a
well known target port used in the DDoS reflection attacks.

As Jared noted, UDP:80 is a cesspool today.  Attempting to use it for
legit traffic is not smart.

CB



The Cidr Report

2014-02-21 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Feb 21 21:13:38 2014 AEST.
The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router
and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.

Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report.

Recent Table History
Date  PrefixesCIDR Agg
14-02-14493241  277561
15-02-14494081  277380
16-02-14493711  277185
17-02-14493631  277754
18-02-14494239  277842
19-02-14494217  276504
20-02-14490331  276730
21-02-14490117  276773


AS Summary
 46383  Number of ASes in routing system
 19017  Number of ASes announcing only one prefix
  3478  Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS
AS28573: NET Serviços de Comunicação S.A.
  119624960  Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s)
AS4134 : CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street


Aggregation Summary
The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only
when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as 
to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also
proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes').

 --- 21Feb14 ---
ASnumNetsNow NetsAggr  NetGain   % Gain   Description

Table 490110   276528   21358243.6%   All ASes

AS28573 3478  105 337397.0%   NET Serviços de Comunicação
   S.A.
AS6389  3023   56 296798.1%   BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK -
   BellSouth.net Inc.
AS17974 2751  185 256693.3%   TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT
   Telekomunikasi Indonesia
AS4766  2983  900 208369.8%   KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom
AS22773 2326  260 206688.8%   ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC -
   Cox Communications Inc.
AS18881 1901   25 187698.7%   Global Village Telecom
AS1785  2164  411 175381.0%   AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec
   Communications, Inc.
AS10620 2749 1189 156056.7%   Telmex Colombia S.A.
AS36998 1630   97 153394.0%   SDN-MOBITEL
AS18566 2047  565 148272.4%   MEGAPATH5-US - MegaPath
   Corporation
AS4323  2929 1515 141448.3%   TWTC - tw telecom holdings,
   inc.
AS7303  1748  449 129974.3%   Telecom Argentina S.A.
AS4755  1837  622 121566.1%   TATACOMM-AS TATA
   Communications formerly VSNL
   is Leading ISP
AS7552  1256  158 109887.4%   VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel
   Corporation
AS7545  2190 1123 106748.7%   TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom
   Limited
AS22561 1276  227 104982.2%   AS22561 - CenturyTel Internet
   Holdings, Inc.
AS9829  1505  656  84956.4%   BSNL-NIB National Internet
   Backbone
AS18101  993  187  80681.2%   RELIANCE-COMMUNICATIONS-IN
   Reliance Communications
   Ltd.DAKC MUMBAI
AS4808  1169  393  77666.4%   CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP
   network China169 Beijing
   Province Network
AS35908  870  105  76587.9%   VPLSNET - Krypt Technologies
AS24560 1106  373  73366.3%   AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti
   Airtel Ltd., Telemedia
   Services
AS701   1496  767  72948.7%   UUNET - MCI Communications
   Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon
   Business
AS8151  1388  660  72852.4%   Uninet S.A. de C.V.
AS6983  1300  581  71955.3%   ITCDELTA - ITC^Deltacom
AS4788   974  259  71573.4%   TMNET-AS-AP TM Net, Internet
   Service Provider
AS7738   845  147  69882.6%   Telemar Norte Leste S.A.
AS855751   57  69492.4%   CANET-ASN-4 - Bell Aliant
   Regional Communications, Inc.
AS4780  1029  374  65563.7%   SEEDNET Digital United Inc.
AS6147   766  113  65385.2%   Telefonica del Peru S.A.A.
AS9808   939  303  63667.7%   CMNET-GD Guangdong Mobile
 

BGP Update Report

2014-02-21 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report
Interval: 13-Feb-14 -to- 20-Feb-14 (7 days)
Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072

TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS
Rank ASNUpds %  Upds/PfxAS-Name
 1 - AS731569280  3.1% 989.7 -- COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES 
S.A. ESP
 2 - AS60349   59921  2.7% 921.9 -- PBL-KIEV-AS Partners. Business 
 Law Ltd.
 3 - AS34875   58129  2.6% 457.7 -- YANFES OJSC Rostelecom
 4 - AS982944275  2.0%  53.9 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet 
Backbone
 5 - AS28573   32480  1.5%   9.0 -- NET Serviços de Comunicação S.A.
 6 - AS10620   29235  1.3%  11.1 -- Telmex Colombia S.A.
 7 - AS840228625  1.3%  35.3 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC Vimpelcom
 8 - AS41691   21301  1.0%1183.4 -- SUMTEL-AS-RIPE Summa Telecom LLC
 9 - AS13118   20725  0.9% 592.1 -- ASN-YARTELECOM OJSC Rostelecom
10 - AS477518183  0.8%1136.4 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms
11 - AS35181   17214  0.8%1434.5 -- PWC Autonomous System Number 
for Public WareHouse Company
12 - AS50710   15128  0.7%  67.2 -- EARTHLINK-AS EarthLink Ltd. 
CommunicationsInternet Services
13 - AS755214792  0.7%  12.3 -- VIETEL-AS-AP Viettel Corporation
14 - AS815114149  0.6%  15.2 -- Uninet S.A. de C.V.
15 - AS702912215  0.6%   2.7 -- WINDSTREAM - Windstream 
Communications Inc
16 - AS912911871  0.5% 232.8 -- KE-NET2000
17 - AS45899   11853  0.5%  34.6 -- VNPT-AS-VN VNPT Corp
18 - AS36948   11742  0.5%5871.0 -- KENIC
19 - AS27738   11645  0.5%  20.2 -- Ecuadortelecom S.A.
20 - AS11976   11552  0.5% 550.1 -- FIDN - Fidelity Communication 
International Inc.


TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix)
Rank ASNUpds %  Upds/PfxAS-Name
 1 - AS6459 7616  0.3%7616.0 -- TRANSBEAM - I-2000, Inc.
 2 - AS544657038  0.3%7038.0 -- QPM-AS-1 - QuickPlay Media Inc.
 3 - AS36948   11742  0.5%5871.0 -- KENIC
 4 - AS165613335  0.1%3335.0 -- ARIBANETWORK Ariba Inc. 
Autonomous System
 5 - AS364013236  0.1%3236.0 -- SHM-5224 - Information 
Management
 6 - AS384913828  0.2%1914.0 -- BSP-AS-AP Bangko Sentral ng 
Pilipinas, Manila, Philippines
 7 - AS14287   10491  0.5%1748.5 -- TRIAD-TELECOM - Triad Telecom, 
Inc.
 8 - AS35181   17214  0.8%1434.5 -- PWC Autonomous System Number 
for Public WareHouse Company
 9 - AS176588029  0.4%1338.2 -- PRIMANET-AS PrimaNet - PT. 
Khasanah Timur Indonesia
10 - AS433521220  0.1%1220.0 -- TELETEK-CLOUD Teletek Bulut 
Bilisim ve Iletisim Hizmetleri A.S.
11 - AS41691   21301  1.0%1183.4 -- SUMTEL-AS-RIPE Summa Telecom LLC
12 - AS477518183  0.8%1136.4 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms
13 - AS510751005  0.1%1005.0 -- WOLFF-PL WYDAWNICTWO 
MULTIMEDIALNE KOWALEWSKI I WOLFF SPOLKA CYWILNA PIOTR GLADKI KRZYSZTOF 
KOWALEWSKI MACIEJ MANSKI
14 - AS731569280  3.1% 989.7 -- COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES 
S.A. ESP
15 - AS60349   59921  2.7% 921.9 -- PBL-KIEV-AS Partners. Business 
 Law Ltd.
16 - AS39575 888  0.0% 888.0 -- SIBINTEK-SAMARA-AS Siberian 
Internet Company
17 - AS57201 847  0.0% 847.0 -- EDF-AS Estonian Defence Forces
18 - AS44153 790  0.0% 790.0 -- SHTE Shirak Technologies LLC
19 - AS3144 2352  0.1% 784.0 -- PINNACLE - Pinnacle On-Line
20 - AS62431 746  0.0% 746.0 -- NCSC-IE-AS National Cyber 
Security Centre


TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes
Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name
 1 - 89.221.206.0/24   21116  0.9%   AS41691 -- SUMTEL-AS-RIPE Summa Telecom LLC
 2 - 109.161.64.0/20   20649  0.9%   AS13118 -- ASN-YARTELECOM OJSC Rostelecom
 5 - 195.202.74.0/248788  0.4%   AS9129  -- KE-NET2000
 6 - 85.239.28.0/24 8702  0.4%   AS35181 -- PWC Autonomous System Number 
for Public WareHouse Company
 7 - 85.239.24.0/24 8379  0.3%   AS35181 -- PWC Autonomous System Number 
for Public WareHouse Company
 8 - 192.58.232.0/248161  0.3%   AS6629  -- NOAA-AS - NOAA
 9 - 113.11.132.0/248001  0.3%   AS17658 -- PRIMANET-AS PrimaNet - PT. 
Khasanah Timur Indonesia
10 - 103.11.61.0/24 7791  0.3%   AS9387  -- AUGERE-PK AUGERE-Pakistan
11 - 205.247.12.0/247616  0.3%   AS6459  -- TRANSBEAM - I-2000, Inc.
12 - 206.152.15.0/247038  0.3%   AS54465 -- QPM-AS-1 - QuickPlay Media Inc.
13 - 67.210.190.0/236841  0.3%   AS11976 -- FIDN - Fidelity Communication 
International Inc.
14 - 200.23.126.0/246680  0.3%   AS8151  -- Uninet S.A. de C.V.
15 - 216.109.107.0/24   6671  0.3%   AS11486 -- COLO-PREM-VZB - Verizon Online 
LLC
 AS16561 -- ARIBANETWORK Ariba Inc. 
Autonomous System
16 - 198.32.67.0/24 6309 

The somewhat illegal fix for NTP attacks

2014-02-21 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Hi

The following would probably be illegal so do not actually do this. But
what if... there are just 4 billion IPv4 addresses. Scanning that
address-space for open NTP is trivially done in a few hours. Abusing these
servers for reflection attack is as trivial, hence the problem. How can we
get the responsible parties to fix their NTP servers?

Answer: DDoS them. With their own service.

Or it could be a DDoS defense. As a victim of an ongoing NTP reflection
attack, you know exactly the IP-addresses of the vulnerable NTP servers
used to attack you. Make them stop by sending back forged NTP packets, so
they use up their available bandwidth to DDoS each other instead of you.

This could even be automated. If you let them attack their next-hop as
discovered by traceroute, it might not even be illegal or harmful. They
will only bring down their own link, do no more harm to the internet at
large and they can fix it by stopping the NTP service. If they are part of
an ongoing DDoS attack it is just self defence to shut them down in the
least harmful way possible.

Regards,

Baldur


Re: The somewhat illegal fix for NTP attacks

2014-02-21 Thread Landon
On 21 February 2014 14:08, Baldur Norddahl baldur.nordd...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi

 The following would probably be illegal so do not actually do this. But
 what if... there are just 4 billion IPv4 addresses. Scanning that
 address-space for open NTP is trivially done in a few hours. Abusing these
 servers for reflection attack is as trivial, hence the problem. How can we
 get the responsible parties to fix their NTP servers?

 Answer: DDoS them. With their own service.


/me gets some popcorn and waits for the show.

-- 
Landon Stewart landonstew...@gmail.com


Re: Filter NTP traffic by packet size?

2014-02-21 Thread Cb B
On Feb 22, 2014 5:30 AM, Damian Menscher dam...@google.com wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Cb B cb.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Damian Menscher dam...@google.com
wrote:
  On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net
wrote:
  You may also want to look at filtering UDP/80 outright as well, as
that is
  commonly used as an I'm going to attack port 80 by attackers that
don't
  quite understand the difference between UDP and TCP.
 
  Please don't filter UDP/80.  It's used by QUIC (
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QUIC).

 The folks at QUIC have been advised to not use UDP for a new protocol,
 and they would be very well advised to not use UDP:80 since that is a
 well known target port used in the DDoS reflection attacks.


 Please suggest which protocol has less blocking on the internet today
(keeping in mind the full end-to-end stack of CPE, various ISPs,
country-level proxies, backbone providers, etc).

 Damian

Tcp.

But the actual answer is , if you want a new transport protocol, create a
new transport protocol with a new protocol number. Overloading the clearly
polluted UDP pool will have problems. Happy eyeballs negotiation may be
required for L4.

QUIC can do what it wants.  Like anyone else, they pay their money and take
their chances. But, the data point that UDP is polluted is clearly
documented with several folks on this list suggesting tactical fixes that
involve limiting UDP, especially udp:80


Re: out of band management gear

2014-02-21 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2014-02-21 15:17 -0600), Jeremy Bresley wrote:

 connections to devices that needed them.  Expensive options in a
 fully loaded chassis just for a couple lower-end devices that could
 easily justify a couple dollars more to get a Gig PHY instead of the
 older 100Mb PHY chip.

There is no technical reason why subrateSFP and subrateSFP+ couldn't exist,
which is 1GE or 10GE towards host and offers 10/100/1000 towards client.
Obviously the optic would be significantly more expensive than normal optic,
as it needs to do lot more, including buffering. But if 1GE optic costs 10EUR,
this subrate optic could easily cost 100EUR.
Just needs some optic vendor to figure out if there is sufficient market for
it.

Randy suggested it is untypical these days to find kit which does not
understand multirate, my experience is the opposite, it's getting rarer to
find multirate support.
Even in cases when they do it, it's often supposedly mode in SGMII where it
can be instructed to send same bit 10 times, allowing cheap 1/10th rate.

-- 
  ++ytti



Re: out of band management gear

2014-02-21 Thread Nick Pope
Thinklogical Sentinel is great. CLI access via ssh, web access, modem for
dial in and two ethernet ports for redundant network access, supports up to
32 devices and is dc/ac http://www.thinklogical.com/sentinel


LAX china unicom submarine cable cut?

2014-02-21 Thread Yucong Sun
Well, ain't that great day to finish the week. Some one today me a
submarine cable is cut.

Most of the networks in LAX that has peering with CU looks congested to
hell now. Anyone else here seeing the same thing?


Re: LAX china unicom submarine cable cut?

2014-02-21 Thread Mehmet Akcin
What do you see? Packet loss? Latency? 

Mehmet

 On Feb 22, 2014, at 4:14, Yucong Sun sunyuc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, ain't that great day to finish the week. Some one today me a
 submarine cable is cut.
 
 Most of the networks in LAX that has peering with CU looks congested to
 hell now. Anyone else here seeing the same thing?



Re: Filter NTP traffic by packet size?

2014-02-21 Thread Seth Mattinen


Isn't UDP 80 still technically registered to HTTP?

~Seth



Gmail throttling?

2014-02-21 Thread Eduardo A. Suárez

Hi,

some of our users have forwarded the email to Gmail and Gmail now are  
complaining that this is bulk mail and delaying it.


We have SPF, DKIM, DMARC, even SRS to try these things do not happen :(

Anyone know if there is any new policy in Gmail about that?

Above all, the message refers to a non-existent URI!


RSET

250 2.1.5 Flushed v69si8136768yhd.33 - gsmtp
x...@gmail.com... Using cached ESMTP connection to  
gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. via esmtp...

MAIL From:x...@example.com SIZE=150374 BODY=8BITMIME

250 2.1.0 OK v69si8136768yhd.33 - gsmtp

RCPT To:x...@gmail.com
DATA

250 2.1.5 OK v69si8136768yhd.33 - gsmtp
354  Go ahead v69si8136768yhd.33 - gsmtp

.

421-4.7.0 [163.10.4.2  15] Our system has detected an unusual rate of
421-4.7.0 unsolicited mail originating from your IP address. To protect our
421-4.7.0 users from spam, mail sent from your IP address has been temporarily
421-4.7.0 rate limited. Please visit  
http://www.google.com/mail/help/bulk_mail.
421 4.7.0 html to review our Bulk Email Senders Guidelines.  
v69si8136768yhd.33 - gsmtp

QUIT



Eduardo.-


--
Eduardo A. Suarez
Facultad de Ciencias Astronómicas y Geofísicas - UNLP
FCAG: (0221)-4236593 int. 172/Cel: (0221)-15-4557542/Casa: (0221)-4526589



This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.




NetSol AAAA glue

2014-02-21 Thread Brandon Applegate
If anyone with ability to fix this is reading this - contact me offlist 
and I'll owe you...


I'm trying to change an  host (name server) address.

I've been emailing ipv6...@networksolutions.com back and forth for several 
days.  After fighting through 'authentication' (which btw I *didn't* do 
several years ago to get the  added) they say they have 'completed' 
it.  a.gtld for example still has the old .  I've just got a gut 
feeling that they don't understand what I'm asking.  I'm actually getting 
a bit scared they are going to break my domain.


Aside from someone at netsol seeing this - does anyone have any advice 
other than get off netsol (which I'm considering).


Thanks.

--
Brandon Applegate - CCIE 10273
PGP Key fingerprint:
830B 4802 1DD4 F4F9 63FE  B966 C0A7 189E 9EC0 3A74
SH1-0151.  This is the serial number, of our orbital gun.




Re: Gmail throttling?

2014-02-21 Thread Brian Henson
The correct URL should be https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126


On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Eduardo A. Suárez 
esua...@fcaglp.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar wrote:

 Hi,

 some of our users have forwarded the email to Gmail and Gmail now are
 complaining that this is bulk mail and delaying it.

 We have SPF, DKIM, DMARC, even SRS to try these things do not happen :(

 Anyone know if there is any new policy in Gmail about that?

 Above all, the message refers to a non-existent URI!

  RSET

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Re: NetSol AAAA glue

2014-02-21 Thread Chuck Anderson
It is quicker and easier to transfer your domain to another registrar,
even though you will have to call them up and speak to a person to do
it.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 08:01:06PM -0500, Brandon Applegate wrote:
 If anyone with ability to fix this is reading this - contact me
 offlist and I'll owe you...
 
 I'm trying to change an  host (name server) address.
 
 I've been emailing ipv6...@networksolutions.com back and forth for
 several days.  After fighting through 'authentication' (which btw I
 *didn't* do several years ago to get the  added) they say they
 have 'completed' it.  a.gtld for example still has the old .
 I've just got a gut feeling that they don't understand what I'm
 asking.  I'm actually getting a bit scared they are going to break
 my domain.
 
 Aside from someone at netsol seeing this - does anyone have any
 advice other than get off netsol (which I'm considering).



NANOG 61 - Bellevue - Call For Presentations is open!

2014-02-21 Thread Greg Dendy
NANOG Community-

I hope everyone enjoyed NANOG 60, NANOG’s largest attended winter meeting.  
Fresh off a great meeting, and post our NANOG Icelanta Reception, we are ready 
start the process for NANOG 61 in Bellevue.  NANOG 61 will be NANOG’s 20th year 
serving the network operator community and helping to make the Internet better. 
   If you have a topic you'd like to speak about, the program committee would 
love to consider it.  Please read 
http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog61/callforpresentations for more information.

We will continue with the Monday-Wednesday format, with Tracks on Monday and 
Wednesday afternoons and Tutorials to be scheduled on Tuesday morning.  The 
program will begin on Monday morning at 10:00AM followed by our popular 
Newcomers Lunch.  The exact schedule layout can be found at 
http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog60/preagenda, please take this into account 
as you plan travel.  If you wish to submit a presentation, please keep these 
important dates in mind:

 *   Presentation Abstracts and Draft Slides Due:  April 7, 2014
 *   Slides Due:   
May 5, 2014
 *   Topic List Posted: 
 April 21, 2014
 *   Agenda Published:   
May 12, 2014

Please submit your materials to http://pc.nanog.orghttp://pc.nanog.org/.

Looking forward to seeing everyone in Bellevue!

Thanks,

Greg Dendy
Chair, NANOG Program Committee


Re: Gmail throttling?

2014-02-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Auto forwarded mail is like that. Any inbound spam your users receive also
gets forwarded. So...
On 22-Feb-2014 1:00 AM, Eduardo A. Suárez 
esua...@fcaglp.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar wrote:

 Hi,

 some of our users have forwarded the email to Gmail and Gmail now are
 complaining that this is bulk mail and delaying it.

 We have SPF, DKIM, DMARC, even SRS to try these things do not happen :(

 Anyone know if there is any new policy in Gmail about that?

 Above all, the message refers to a non-existent URI!

  RSET

 250 2.1.5 Flushed v69si8136768yhd.33 - gsmtp
 x...@gmail.com... Using cached ESMTP connection to
 gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. via esmtp...

 MAIL From:x...@example.com SIZE=150374 BODY=8BITMIME

 250 2.1.0 OK v69si8136768yhd.33 - gsmtp

 RCPT To:x...@gmail.com
 DATA

 250 2.1.5 OK v69si8136768yhd.33 - gsmtp
 354  Go ahead v69si8136768yhd.33 - gsmtp

 .

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Re: Filter NTP traffic by packet size?

2014-02-21 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2014-02-21 14:37 -0800), Cb B wrote:

 QUIC can do what it wants.  Like anyone else, they pay their money and take
 their chances. But, the data point that UDP is polluted is clearly
 documented with several folks on this list suggesting tactical fixes that
 involve limiting UDP, especially udp:80

Seth has good point, UDP:80 is HTTP.

If we want new L4 protocol which works today, we must first ride on top of
UDP, since that will work on lot more people day 1, this will avoid
chicken-egg problem (kit won't be fixed,as no one uses new L4, no one uses new
L4 as lot of kit drops it)
I'm surprised MinimaLT and QUIC have have not put transport area people in
high gear towards standardization of new PKI based L4 protocol, I think its
elegant solution to many practical reoccurring problem, solution which has
become practical only rather recently.

-- 
  ++ytti