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RE: [neonixie-l] ZM1350

2024-04-28 Thread Michail Wilson

I won the auction which some might wonder how since they were not sold to the 
USA.
I’ve been talking to a guy from the Ukraine and he sent me a link.  I decided I 
wanted them, but seller would not ship out of the country.

I’m in a Bitcoin forum/chat rooms and someone I’ve dealt with for a while had 
me thinking….. I had him bid and pay for me.

Story on the auction… Not tested.  Auction says 6, but 4 extra included just in 
case.   So, possibly 10.   Since I’ve only ever had two, I decided to win it.
Talking to seller and it turns out they were part of the late John Smout’s 
collection.  Now I got really excited and thinking all 10 should be good.

Two days prior to having a friend bid on them had me worried, because he didn’t 
answer messages.  Uhhhg.  He came through and manually bid for me.

So, a double shipping, and I will find out in about a month.  Well, maybe 
longer since I don’t have any project boards, etc.

My guess is about 1125 L total.  Around $150 each assuming all are good.  Not 
considering the extras in the package yet.

Note:  I picked up another of his auctions as well which was VFDs.  IV-25’s

Michail Wilson
206-920-6312

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Nicholas Stock
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:31 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1350

I've given up thinking what a good price is now that looks like about $200 
each when taking tax/currency conversion into account.

They are very nice tubes when lit up. They've gone to a good home (presumably 
Michail from his smiley face reply... ;)

On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 4:28 PM Robert 
mailto:robnorman...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good price?


Rob


On 28 Apr 2024, at 16:16, Michail Wilson 
mailto:m...@michail.com>> wrote:



Michail Wilson
206-920-6312

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Robert
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:55 AM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: [neonixie-l] ZM1350

Not my auction but did anyone on here get them

 
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY


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I won't be trying that test :)Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz wrote:That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than the normal green phosphor.On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin wrote:Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular green oneOn Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote:I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the bulbs.On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park wrote:I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes.https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me.Terry Bowman, KA4HJH"The Mac Doctor"https://www.astarcloseup.com"If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, Blade Runner

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Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO

2024-04-28 Thread liam bartosiewicz

That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than the normal green phosphor.On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin wrote:Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular green oneOn Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote:I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the bulbs.On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park wrote:I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes.https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me.Terry Bowman, KA4HJH"The Mac Doctor"https://www.astarcloseup.com"If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, Blade Runner

Re: [neonixie-l] The long-awaited MOD-SIX Lumina PCB KITS are now available!

2024-04-28 Thread MichaelB

BTW, just so that credit is where credit is dueCarl did a large chunk 
of the work on the KIT assembly notes and the Lumina Manual is Terri's 
handiwork from the Lumina release. Thanks again! 

On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 4:33:59 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote:

> Worth it! :)
>
> [image: IMG_4200.jpeg]
>
> Thanks Michael and Carl (and Terry). Great kit, great clock and a VERY 
> THOROUGH manual!!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nick
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 6:26 PM MichaelB  wrote:
>
>> *Down to 10 KITS left!* We did a small release of these kits.  Please 
>> let me know if you would like me to secure a set for you. Thx
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 1:07:40 AM UTC-7 Michail Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> I want 3 “Full” kits.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Michail Wilson
>>>
>>> 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312>
>>>
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>>>
>>> *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com  *On 
>>> Behalf Of *MichaelB
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:11 PM
>>> *To:* neonixie-l 
>>> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] The long-awaited MOD-SIX Lumina PCB KITS are 
>>> now available!
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Board Kits are designed for the GEN V Ziggurat, but will fit past 
>>> slab-type MOD-SIX clocks as well
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Go here for pricing and availability:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> http://badnixie.com/Badnixie.com_Welcome.html
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO

2024-04-28 Thread Audrey

Wow...

On Sun, Apr 28, 2024, 8:49 PM Pramanicin  wrote:

> Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular green
> one
>
> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote:
>
>> I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs.
>> The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the bulbs.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park  wrote:
>>>
>>> I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes.
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653
>>>
>>>
>>> The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and
>>> thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me.
>>>
>>>
>>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
>>> "The Mac Doctor"
>>>
>>> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>>>
>>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade
>>> Runner*
>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Lighting of only cathode lead wires

2024-04-28 Thread gregebert

I've tried depoisoning a few of these 6844/5031 tubes with zero success, 
even at high current (20+ mA). They get hot, but wont clean-up. Whatever 
contaminates the surface of the cathode is rather stubborn. Perhaps it's an 
oxide; many of these failing tubes have a black haze inside the tube, which 
I suspect is Iron(II) oxide. There is a lack of oxygen, so the familiar 
Iron(III) oxide wont form.


On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 1:19:52 PM UTC-7 Leroy Jones wrote:

> Picture of clock built in 2010 that uses NL-6844A tubes.
>
> On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 1:49:40 PM UTC-4 Leroy Jones wrote:
>
>> Hmm.   This thread somehow got deleted.   But anyway, as I was 
>> saying.The National NL-6844A always tests better and with much more 
>> success than the Burroughs version ever does.
>> These are certainly NOT ideal tubes.  Short life.  No mercury.  But they 
>> do make up for their deficiencies by looking cool while they actually 
>> operate correctly.
>> Especially on a clock that has them mounted on a clear case, and sticking 
>> out the front.-Chuck
>>
>> On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 12:28:57 PM UTC-4 David wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen this also on these tubes. The 6844A is an early tube design 
>>> that didn't have mercury added to prevent cathode poisoning. I doubt that 
>>> anyone has done recent research on this phenomenon, so we're left with 
>>> conjecture. Here's mine: after the cathode gets poisoned, the plasma has to 
>>> be generated somewhere. That somewhere is the lead wires. Later tubes had 
>>> insulating paint applied to the lead wires to prevent this. It's usually 
>>> white or green. 
>>>
>>>
>>> David Forbes, Tucson AZ 
>>>
>>> > On Apr 26, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Leroy Jones  
>>> wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> >  
>>> > Hello, A while back I was testing a batch of Burroughs 6844A nixie 
>>> tubes. 
>>> > None in the batch worked correctly. Only the cathode lead wires 
>>> glowed, not the 
>>> > digits themselves. I have noticed this repeatedly on Burroughs 6844A 
>>> tubes. 
>>>
>>

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Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1350

2024-04-28 Thread Nicholas Stock

I've given up thinking what a good price is now that looks like about
$200 each when taking tax/currency conversion into account.

They are very nice tubes when lit up. They've gone to a good home
(presumably Michail from his smiley face reply... ;)

On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 4:28 PM Robert  wrote:

> Good price?
>
>
> Rob
>
> On 28 Apr 2024, at 16:16, Michail Wilson  wrote:
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
> Michail Wilson
>
> 206-920-6312
>
>
>
> *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Robert
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:55 AM
> *To:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] ZM1350
>
>
>
> Not my auction but did anyone on here get them
>
>
>
>
>  
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY
> 
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> Rob
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Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1350

2024-04-28 Thread Robert

Good price?RobOn 28 Apr 2024, at 16:16, Michail Wilson  wrote:








 

Michail Wilson
206-920-6312

 


From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:55 AM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: [neonixie-l] ZM1350


 
Not my auction but did anyone on here get them 

 


 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY


 


 


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[neonixie-l] Lighting of only cathode lead wires

2024-04-28 Thread chuckrr

Well the facts are that the National NL-6844A tubes always test much better 
than the Burroughs versions do.

I know they are not ideal tubes.   No mercury.   Limited lifetime.  But they do 
look cool especially on a clock
that has them poking out the front.

Chuck

 Original Message 
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To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
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lead wires

I have seen this also on these tubes. The 6844A is an early tube design that 
didn't have mercury added to prevent cathode poisoning. I doubt that anyone has 
done recent research on this phenomenon, so we're left with conjecture. Here's 
mine: after the cathode gets poisoned, the plasma has to be generated 
somewhere. That somewhere is the lead wires. Later tubes had insulating paint 
applied to the lead wires to prevent this. It's usually white or green. 

David Forbes, Tucson AZ

> On Apr 26, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Leroy Jones  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,  A while back I was testing a batch of Burroughs 6844A nixie tubes.
> None in the batch worked correctly.   Only the cathode lead wires glowed, not 
> the
> digits themselves.   I have noticed this repeatedly on Burroughs 6844A tubes.

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RE: [neonixie-l] ZM1350

2024-04-28 Thread Michail Wilson



Michail Wilson
206-920-6312

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Robert
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 4:55 AM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: [neonixie-l] ZM1350

Not my auction but did anyone on here get them

 
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPY


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[neonixie-l] ZM1350

2024-04-28 Thread Robert

Not my auction but did anyone on here get them  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266778846760?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=oUHk6HLEQUG=4429486=U1YeAcPgQ5y=_ver=artemis=COPYRob



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