Re: Pkgsrc issue

2024-04-27 Thread Greg Troxel
Don Lee  writes:

> Mr Nestor has given me a good path for my needs. I’m wondering if I
> can apply any of my resources to TNF efforts. I was thinking of
> setting up a machine here, but I might do better by simply giving a
> machine to TNF. (The NetBSD Foundation?)
>
> NetBSD has been good to me. I’d like to return the favor.

Yes, TNF == The NetBSD Foundation.

I'm not on the board and can't really speak for TNF, but from helping
with pkgsrc and talking about bulk build setups, I know that hardware is
one thing, and a place to put it, power, network, remote hands, and
admin resources is much more.  You might ask he@ who is doing powerpc
builds if they could use more, but I would guess that's really not the
limit.  There is always a call for money which is used to pay people
sometimes, and to buy hardware.  (I don't know where it came from, but
the x86_64/i386 bulk build setup is recently massively improved with new
hardware, but it took a lot of work by many people to get it all done.)

It is very useful if you figure out what's wrong and fix it and send
patches.  For that, it's best if you update to 10.


Re: Pkgsrc issue

2024-04-27 Thread Greg Troxel
Don Lee  writes:

> I have extra static IPs, and several PPC Mac mini machines. I wonder
> how hard it would be for me to set one up with enough disk space to do
> bulk builds. Would that even be helpful? I imagine that to be useful,
> a machine would have to have some administrative massaging to set up
> users/ssh/ftp/etc.

You building our own packages is useful for you.  You are welcome to
make them available, and we list sets that are long-term maintained in
SEE_ALSO.  We have a rule that only packages built on machines
controlled by TNF members are posted on ftp.netbsd.org.

> I have not done the pkgsrc bootstrap for quite a while, and don’t know
> how much disk space I would need. Fortunately, NetBSD 8.2 on PPC seem
> to be very stable, so running for a couple of weeks on a build should
> be fine.

I meant that if you need a small subset of packages, then building those
yourself is reasonable.  If you try to build the entire set, it's
going to take a very long time.   For example, I build what I need for
earmv7hf-el myself, but my setup would take years to build the full set,
and it doens't have enough memory.


Re: Pkgsrc issue

2024-04-27 Thread Greg Troxel
Don Lee  writes:

> I have a PPC Mac Mini running NetBSD 8.2. It’s stable and functional. It 
> serves me well.
>
> I have been using pkgin to install packages and update them with "pkgin 
> upgrade”.
>
> My recent attempts to upgrade have been ended by pkgin telling me:
>
> +mercy$ pkgin upgrade
> calculating dependencies...|
> glib2>=2.76.4nb1 is not available in the repository
> proceed ? [y/N]
>
> So I checked on glib2, and it really should be in the pkgsrc binary
> packages, but it is not there in the 8.2 ppc pkgsrc binaries. I also
> have amd64 machines and they have glib2.

NetBSD has machines to do builds for some architectures, basically
x86_64, i386, earmv[67]hf-el, and aarch64.

Beyond that individual developers do bulk builds and publish the
results.  These are almost all "slow architectures", which means that
the available compute resources are such that it takes a long time (more
than 2 weeks) to complete a bulk build.  For many, it takes a whole
quarter.

Thus the build currently pointed to for macppc/8 is 2023Q4.  You are
welcome to look at the ftp server and choose a build yourself -- but
there isn't anything newere.

> How should I go about reporting this issue and hopefully getting it fixed.

You have reported it :-)

There are a lot of reasons a package might not succeed:

  bulk build ran out of time that quarter before the hardware is used to
  start the next quarter

  hiccup or resource issue on the build system

  the package actually won't build on the branch

The place to find bulk build reports is the pkgsrc-bulk mailing list,
but I am not able to find the report for this build with quick search.

So, you could check out pkgsrc, bootstrap it to a scratch prefix, and
try to build glib2, see if it succeeds, and if not fix it.

However:

  we no longer maintain 2023Q4, now that 2023Q1 was created

  pkgsrc no longer supports NetBSD 8, more or less right now, as NetBSD
  8 is formally EOL on Tuesday.  (The notion of "supports" is a bit
  funny, as people fix what they want, regardless.)

> I *believe* I could fix this by upgrading NetBSD to
> 9.0+. Unfortunately, that would be hard for me, at least now.

Whether there are binary package sets for various versions is a question
you might want to answer, but in general, you are now overdue for an
upgrade.

This query isn't, as far as I know, easy to 4un for the web, for in case
it helps:

$ ls -l pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/powerpc/*_20*Q*/All/glib2-2*
-rw-r--r--  1 he  netbsd  5353306 Dec 18 08:33 
pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/powerpc/10.0_2023Q3/All/glib2-2.76.5.tgz
-rw-r--r--  1 he  netbsd  5301256 Oct 24  2023 
pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/powerpc/8.0_2023Q3/All/glib2-2.76.5.tgz
-rw-r--r--  1 he  netbsd  5372926 Oct 23  2023 
pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/powerpc/9.0_2023Q3/All/glib2-2.76.5.tgz
-rw-r--r--  1 he  netbsd  5435273 Feb 12 06:31 
pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/powerpc/9.0_2023Q4/All/glib2-2.78.1nb1.tgz

which shows that 9 has glib2 for 2023Q4, and that there isn't a 10.0
build for 2023Q4 on the ftp server.

You of course can build your own packages.  That might be more
reasonable than you think, especially if you are operating in a
lightweight old-school manner.


Re: need your advice before new Raspberry Pi purchase

2024-04-27 Thread Ramiro Aceves

El 24/4/24 a las 6:39, Ramiro Aceves escribió:

Hello,


My RPi4 arrived yesterday and everything worked and booted fine from the 128 GB 
SD using UEFI. Network was working fine also through ethernet without 
configuring anything. 3GB limit disabled.

Today I will continue configuring the OS.

The only nasty thing was that SD card reader in my NUC8i7 did not work in 
NetBSD and needed to flash it under Linux. I think I will buy a card reader for 
the next time. Should I fill a bug report?

Thanks guys!

Regards.
Ramiro.



Hello, I made the suggested somewhere symbolic link to avoid the "bwfm0: 
autoconfiguration error: NVRAM file not available", even that I am not 
going to use the WIFI interface.


lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   44 Apr 27 11:54 
brcmfmac43455-sdio.Raspberry Pi 4 Model B.txt -> 
brcmfmac43455-sdio.raspberrypi,4-model-b.txt


Will that fix be applied in next 10.1 release?

Thanks.
Ramiro







Pkgsrc issue

2024-04-27 Thread Don Lee
Hi guys,

I have a PPC Mac Mini running NetBSD 8.2. It’s stable and functional. It serves 
me well.

I have been using pkgin to install packages and update them with "pkgin 
upgrade”.

My recent attempts to upgrade have been ended by pkgin telling me:

+mercy$ pkgin upgrade
calculating dependencies...|
glib2>=2.76.4nb1 is not available in the repository
proceed ? [y/N]


So I checked on glib2, and it really should be in the pkgsrc binary packages, 
but it is not there in the 8.2 ppc pkgsrc binaries. I also have amd64 machines 
and they have glib2.

How should I go about reporting this issue and hopefully getting it fixed.

I *believe* I could fix this by upgrading NetBSD to 9.0+. Unfortunately, that 
would be hard for me, at least now.

Thanks,

-dgl-



NetBSD Nightly Trouble Ticket Report broken?

2024-04-27 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Hello, I am receiving empty email reports.

Thanks.