Re: View / test *-ttf fonts
On 5/25/24 07:22, Todd Gruhn wrote: Is there a way to view the *-ttf fonts? So I know what it will look like ... xfd Tom Dean
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
On 4/23/24 08:54, Justin Parrott wrote: this is what i was talking about, i don't like booting an sbc from stick even if you can hit disk can net run on sbc? I can boot NetBSD 10 on an RPi 4b from an SD card . It seems to run fine. Seems lots faster than RPi OS booted from the same type SD card. I can 1. access the network 2. ssh into the RPi 3. build applications on a RPi 4B running NetBSD 10 booted from an SD card. What I can not do is get the RPi 4b to boot NetBSD from a USB-3 flash drive. I can get the RPi 4b to boot RPi OS from the USB-3 flask drive. Tom Dean
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
On 4/20/24 15:29, Michael Cheponis wrote: > I run an RPi 4B/8G with external USB SSD drive; I do this because my uSD cards were getting worn out after about a year of use; I've had no such problems with my Samsung 870 EVO nor Samsung SSD T7. > > I use the built-in GigE adaptor on the RPi 4B, because it's convenient as I have wired ethernet most places. So I can't help with WiFi. > > I have been running an RPi 3 from a Lexar 64B Thumb Drive since June 2019 - no problem there, either. I use SanDisk Extreme Pro 128GiB flash drives in the RPi 4b USB 3 port, sometimes with a 6" USB 3 cable. I can always boot RPi OS on these drives. I have never been able to boot NetBSD 10. I downloaded the arm64.img, and RPi4_UEFI_Firmware_v1.35.zip. On a Linux desktop: dd if=arm64.img of=/dev/sda bs=1M and, then I replace the corresponding files from RPi4_UEFI_Firmware_v1.35.zip. mount /de3v/sda1 /mnt cd /mnt unzip ~/NetBSD/RPi4_UEFI_Firmware_v1.35.zip When I attempt to boot, I see the color flash, then a cursor at the top left of the screen, then the screen goes blank. he flash drive shows lots of accesses during this process and then shows access flashes in groups of 3 or 4. I think this indicates an unreadable file, I think. When I do the the same actions with an SD card, NetBSD boots. What do you do? Tom Dean
NetBSD RPi 4b Install/Boot Failure
I am using a SanDisk Extreme Pro 128GiB flash drive connected to the RPi 4b USB-3 port. I can use this with the RPi OS. I tried downloading Generic 64-bit from http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/arm/, marked as for the Raspberry Pi. I unzipped the file to get the .img. > ls -l NetBSD-10-aarch64--generic.img -rw-rw-r-- 1 tomdean tomdean 1582301184 Apr 20 20:46 NetBSD-10-aarch64--generic.img > sudo dd if=NetBSD-10-aarch64--generic.img of=/dev/sda bs=1M conv=sync 1509+0 records in 1509+0 records out 1582301184 bytes (1.6 GB, 1.5 GiB) copied, 6.21875 s, 254 MB/s > sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt > ls /mnt EFI cmdline.txt fixup.dat fixup_cd.dat start4.elf LICENCE.broadcom config.txt fixup4.datnetbsd.imgstart4cd.elf bootcode.bin dtb fixup4cd.dat start.elf start_cd.elf > cat /mnt/cmdline.txt root=NAME=netbsd-root console=fb > cat /mnt/config.txt # upstream_kernel=1 # arm_64bit=1 os_prefix=dtb/broadcom/ cmdline=../../cmdline.txt kernel=/netbsd.img kernel_address=0x20 enable_uart=1 force_turbo=0 I connected a HDMI display and the SanDisk Extreme Pro flash drive (USB 3) to the RPi 4b and applied power. The led on the flash drive blinked for 3~4 seconds and stopped. The screen flashed and went blank. Nothing afterwards... I booted the RPi 4b from a SD card, NetBSD 10 and connected the flash drive to a USB-3 port. fsck says the drive is OK. I mounted /dev/dk2 on /mnt There are some missing files on dk2 as compared to /boot. pi-4b-1# ls -l /mnt total 23142 drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1024 Mar 28 16:53 EFI -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1594 Mar 28 16:53 LICENCE.broadcom -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 52476 Mar 28 16:53 bootcode.bin -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel33 Mar 28 16:53 cmdline.txt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 155 Mar 28 16:53 config.txt drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1024 Mar 28 16:53 dtb -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7269 Mar 28 16:53 fixup.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5412 Mar 28 16:53 fixup4.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3180 Mar 28 16:53 fixup4cd.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3180 Mar 28 16:53 fixup_cd.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16761568 Mar 28 16:53 netbsd.img -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2979264 Mar 28 16:53 start.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2254944 Mar 28 16:53 start4.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel808060 Mar 28 16:53 start4cd.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel808060 Mar 28 16:53 start_cd.elf rpi-4b-1# ls -l /boot total 25293 drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1024 Apr 1 22:28 EFI -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1594 Apr 1 22:28 LICENCE.broadcom -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2031616 Jun 5 2023 RPI_EFI.fd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5051 Jun 5 2023 Readme.md -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 54388 Jun 5 2023 bcm2711-rpi-4-b.dtb -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 54477 Jun 5 2023 bcm2711-rpi-400.dtb -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 54997 Jun 5 2023 bcm2711-rpi-cm4.dtb -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 52476 Apr 1 22:28 bootcode.bin -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel33 Apr 1 22:28 cmdline.txt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 243 Jun 5 2023 config.txt drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1024 Apr 1 22:28 dtb drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1024 Apr 19 04:13 firmware -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7269 Apr 1 22:28 fixup.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5397 Jun 5 2023 fixup4.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3180 Apr 1 22:28 fixup4cd.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3180 Apr 1 22:28 fixup_cd.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16761568 Apr 1 22:28 netbsd.img drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1024 Apr 19 04:13 overlays -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2979264 Apr 1 22:28 start.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2253088 Jun 5 2023 start4.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel808060 Apr 1 22:28 start4cd.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel808060 Apr 1 22:28 start_cd.elf Any ideas? Tom Dean
Re: need your advice before new Raspberry Pi purchase
On 4/20/24 17:24, Michael wrote: The 3GB limit is on by default for some old linux kernels that don't have the DMA workaround. It takes about 10 seconds to get into the UEFI setup menu and turn it off. What is the UEFI setup menu? How do I get in to it? I used dd to write arm64.img to the USB 3 flash drive. Is the NetBSD installer available in the arm64.img? Is it possible to use the installer on the RPi 4b (booted from the SD card) to install NetBSD 10 on the USB 3 flash drive? Tom Dean
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
On 4/20/24 15:29, Michael Cheponis wrote: I run an RPi 4B/8G with external USB SSD drive; I do this because my uSD cards were getting worn out after about a year of use; I've had no such problems with my Samsung 870 EVO nor Samsung SSD T7. I use the built-in GigE adaptor on the RPi 4B, because it's convenient as I have wired ethernet most places. So I can't help with WiFi. I have been running an RPi 3 from a Lexar 64B Thumb Drive since June 2019 - no problem there, either. I use SanDisk Extreme Pro 128GiB flash drives in the RPi 4b USB 3 port, sometimes with a 6" USB 3 cable. I can always boot RPi OS on these drives. I have never been able to boot NetBSD 10. I downloaded the arm64.img, and RPi4_UEFI_Firmware_v1.35.zip. On a Linux desktop: dd if=arm64.img of=/dev/sda bs=1M and, then I replace the corresponding files from RPi4_UEFI_Firmware_v1.35.zip. mount /de3v/sda1 /mnt cd /mnt unzip ~/NetBSD/RPi4_UEFI_Firmware_v1.35.zip When I attempt to boot, I see the color flash, then a cursor at the top left of the screen, then the screen goes blank. The flash drive shows lots of accesses during this process and then shows access flashes in groups of 3 or 4. I think this indicates an unreadable file, I think. When I do the the same actions with an SD card, NetBSD boots. What do you do? Tom Dean
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
On 4/20/24 13:16, Michael van Elst wrote: tomd...@wavecable.com ("Thomas D. Dean") writes: # wpa_cli status Selected interface 'bwfm0' 21:58:44.815: bssid=60:38:e0:db:a9:7a freq=0 ssid=tddhome id=0 mode=station pairwise_cipher=TKIP group_cipher=TKIP key_mgmt=WPA-PSK wpa_state=GROUP_HANDSHAKE ip_address=169.254.135.120 address=e4:5f:01:da:eb:46 I don't understand where the inet 169.254.135.120 comes from. The router pool is 192.168.1.xxx. 169.254.x.x is a "link local" address. dhcpcd falls back to such an address, if it doesn't get an answer from a dhcp server. Apparently wpa_supplicant cannot connect to the network. wpa_state=GROUP_HANDSHAKE says that it still tries to associate. When it's done this would change to COMPLETED. I have two RPi 4b's. One with NetBSD 10 on an SD card and the other with RPi OS on a USB flash drive. (I can not get NetBSD to boot from a flash drive) As far as I can tell the network configurations are the same for WIFI on both. I see comments on the web about NetBSD 10 problems with the bwfm device. I need WIFI. So, I go back to RPi OS. Thanks for all the replies. Tom Dean
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
I have Authentication timeout. # wpa_cli > scan_results 23:27:43.451: bssid / frequency / signal level / flags / ssid60:38:e0:db:a9:7a 2462 227 [WPA-PSK-TKIP][ESS] tddhome ... 23:27:47.736: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS 23:27:47.736: Trying to associate with 60:38:e0:db:a9:7a (SSID='tddhome' freq=2462 MHz) 23:27:52.874: Associated with 60:38:e0:db:a9:7a 23:28:02.888: Authentication with 60:38:e0:db:a9:7a timed out. 23:28:02.889: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=60:38:e0:db:a9:7a reason=3 locally_generated=1 23:28:02.889: CTRL-EVENT-SSID-TEMP-DISABLED id=0 ssid="tddhome" auth_failures=1 duration=10 reason=CONN_FAILED The linksys router uses WPA2/WPA mixed Personal. PSK is correct in etc/wpa_supplicant.conf: # cat /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant ctrl_interface_group=wheel network={ ssid="tddhome" key_mgmt=WPA-PSK psk="..." } Tom Dean
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
On 4/19/24 18:35, Michael van Elst wrote: tomd...@wavecable.com ("Thomas D. Dean") writes: How do I setup wpa_supplicant? That depends on what you want to do. Here are some examples: https://wiki.netbsd.org/tutorials/how_to_use_wpa_supplicant/ I saw that. dhcp is working over the wired connection. I thought I had everything configured for wifi. It just does not work. I have a cable modem <-> wifi/wired router. I have several machines connected. Linux and windoze, now. One RPi with NetBSD 10. Used to have some FreeBSD machines, but, they have been replaced. # etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant reload Selected interface 'bwfm0' 21:58:35.931: OK # wpa_cli status Selected interface 'bwfm0' 21:58:44.815: bssid=60:38:e0:db:a9:7a freq=0 ssid=tddhome id=0 mode=station pairwise_cipher=TKIP group_cipher=TKIP key_mgmt=WPA-PSK wpa_state=GROUP_HANDSHAKE ip_address=169.254.135.120 address=e4:5f:01:da:eb:46 # ifconfig bwfm0 bwfm0: flags=0x8843 mtu 1500 ssid "" nwkey 65536:"","","","" powersave off address: e4:5f:01:da:eb:46 media: IEEE802.11 autoselect (DS1 mode 11g) status: no network inet6 fe80::d7c0:41b9:46a5:a5ff%bwfm0/64 flags 0x8 scopeid 0x3 inet 169.254.135.120/16 broadcast 169.254.255.255 flags 0x4 I don't understand where the inet 169.254.135.120 comes from. The router pool is 192.168.1.xxx. Tom Dean
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
On 4/19/24 09:40, Michael van Elst wrote: Reason is that the platform is canonically named "raspberrypi,4-model-b" but UEFI chose "Raspberry Pi 4 Model B" instead. > pwd /home/tomdean/NetBSD > ls -l total 2154 -rw-rw-r-- 1 tomdean tomdean 272510976 Apr 18 09:40 NetBSD-10.0-evbarm-aarch64.iso drwxrwxr-x 4 tomdean tomdean 4096 Apr 18 21:12 RPi4-1.35 drwxrwxr-x 7 tomdean tomdean 4096 Apr 10 23:27 RPi4-1.37 -rw-rw-r-- 1 tomdean tomdean 433670 Apr 18 16:52 RPi4-1.37.zip -rw-rw-r-- 1 tomdean tomdean3144359 Apr 18 21:01 RPi4_UEFI_Firmware_v1.35.zip -rw-rw-r-- 1 tomdean tomdean 1582301184 Apr 3 15:02 arm64.img -rw-rw-r-- 1 tomdean tomdean 399419622 Apr 18 09:50 arm64.img.gz > grep -Rail "raspberrypi\\,4\-model-b" * RPi4-1.35/bcm2711-rpi-4-b.dtb arm64.img > grep -Rail "Raspberry\ Pi\ 4\ Model\ B" * < nothing found> I could not get NetBSD 10 to boot with the 1.37 files. With the 1.35 files, it booted and seems to work, other than WIFI. I created a link to "Raspberry Pi 4 Model B" and the error went away. How do I setup wpa_supplicant? Tom Dean
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
On 4/18/24 22:00, Michael van Elst wrote: tomd...@wavecable.com ("Thomas D. Dean") writes: What is the wifi device in the RPi 4b? Driver? It's a chip similar to the one in the older RPIs: bwfm0: chip 0x4345 rev 6 bwfm0: Firmware file default:brcmfmac43455-sdio.bin bwfm0: Firmware file model-spec: brcmfmac43455-sdio.raspberrypi,4-model-b.bin bwfm0: Found Firmware file: brcmfmac43455-sdio.raspberrypi,4-model-b.bin bwfm0: NVRAM file default:brcmfmac43455-sdio.txt bwfm0: NVRAM file model-spec: brcmfmac43455-sdio.raspberrypi,4-model-b.txt bwfm0: Found NVRAM file: brcmfmac43455-sdio.raspberrypi,4-model-b.txt bwfm0: CLM file default:brcmfmac43455-sdio.clm_blob bwfm0: CLM file model-spec: brcmfmac43455-sdio.raspberrypi,4-model-b.clm_blob bwfm0: Found CLM file: brcmfmac43455-sdio.raspberrypi,4-model-b.clm_blob bwfm0: CHIPACTIVE bwfm0: flags=0x8843 mtu 1500 ssid nwkey * powersave off bssid ##:##:##:##:##:## chan 100 address: ##:##:##:##:##:## media: IEEE802.11 autoselect (VHT mode 11ac) status: active inet6 fe80:::::%bwfm0/64 flags 0 scopeid 0x3 I saw bwfm0: in /var/log/messages, from memory, similar to the ones listed. One error. autoconfiguration error: NVRAM file not available. The CHIPACTIVE line is missng. ifconfig does not show bwfm0, only genet0 and lo0. I managed to get a wired connection (across the room at chin height...) Networking is up. ntp set the date correctly. DNS works. I can ssh into the system. It has been 5 or 6 years since I ran BSD. I used Berkeley BSD and FreeBSD. How do I get wifi started? I can start wpa_supplicant and I have a network block in /etc/wpa_supplicant. network={ ssid="" psk="" } service wpa_supplicant onestatus shows it is running Tom Dean
RPi 4b Wifi Device
What is the wifi device in the RPi 4b? Driver? Tom Dean
Re: Install Failure RPi 4
On 4/18/24 13:56, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I followed: https://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-arm/2023/07/19/msg008301.html and it boots. download https://github.com/pftf/RPi4/releases/download/v1.35/RPi4_UEFI_Firmware_v1.35.zip > mount mmcblk0p1 /mnt > cd /mnt > unzip ~/RPi4_UEFI_Firmware_v1.35.zip and reboot Tom Dean Silverdale, WA
Install Failure RPi 4
I have an RPi 4b using a USB flash drive and RPi OS. I attempted to install NetBSD 10 on an SD card. On the RPi, I downloaded arm64.img.gz and extracted arm64.img. > ls -l arm64.img rw-rw-r-- 1 tomdean tomdean 1582301184 Apr 3 15:02 arm64.img I used dd to copy the image to an SD card. > dd if=armv7.img of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1m conv=sync After this, the SD card looked OK for the RPi. I shut down the RPi, removed the USB flash drive. I connected a mouse, keyboard, and display, and powered up with the SD card inserted. The red LED is on continuously. The green LED flashed for ~1 sec, was off for ~1 sec, flashed for ~2 sec, was off for ~2 sec, flashed for ~3 sec, then was off (5 minutes). The display flashed then was blank, again (5 min). Tom DeanI have an RPi 4b using a USB flash drive and RPi OS. I attempted to install NetBSD 10 on an SD card. On the RPi, I downloaded arm64.img.gz and extracted arm64.img. > ls -l arm64.img rw-rw-r-- 1 tomdean tomdean 1582301184 Apr 3 15:02 arm64.img I used dd to copy the image to an SD card. > dd if=armv7.img of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1m conv=sync After this, the SD card looked OK for the RPi. I shut down the RPi, removed the USB flash drive. I connected a mouse, keyboard, and display, and powered up with the SD card inserted. The red LED is on continuously. The green LED flashed for ~1 sec, was off for ~1 sec, flashed for ~2 sec, was off for ~2 sec, flashed for ~3 sec, then was off (5 minutes). The display flashed then was blank, again (5 min). I powered down, removed the SD card, reconnected the USB flash drive and powered up. I reinserted the SD card. > sudo fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 29.72 GiB, 31914983424 bytes, 62333952 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: gpt Disk identifier: 98B95E86-7515-4738-B538-FC5107ADFEC9 Device Start End Sectors Size Type /dev/mmcblk0p1 32768 196607 163840 80M EFI System /dev/mmcblk0p2 196608 62332927 62136320 29.6G NetBSD FFS > sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt > ls -l /mnt total 23142 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 1024 Apr 1 23:28 EFI -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1594 Apr 1 23:28 LICENCE.broadcom -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root52476 Apr 1 23:28 bootcode.bin -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 33 Apr 1 23:28 cmdline.txt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 155 Apr 1 23:28 config.txt drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 1024 Apr 1 23:28 dtb -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7269 Apr 1 23:28 fixup.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5412 Apr 1 23:28 fixup4.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3180 Apr 1 23:28 fixup4cd.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3180 Apr 1 23:28 fixup_cd.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 16761568 Apr 1 23:28 netbsd.img -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2979264 Apr 1 23:28 start.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2254944 Apr 1 23:28 start4.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 808060 Apr 1 23:28 start4cd.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 808060 Apr 1 23:28 start_cd.elf > cat /mnt/config.txt # upstream_kernel=1 # arm_64bit=1 os_prefix=dtb/broadcom/ cmdline=../../cmdline.txt kernel=/netbsd.img kernel_address=0x20 enable_uart=1 force_turbo=0
Broken Link
On https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/ Select NetBSD/evbarm 10.0 INSTALL notes Produces Error 404. Tom Dean
Re: Talk to mouse || ID a mouse
On 7/14/23 05:37, Todd Gruhn wrote: I found and buy a mouse. ON MOUSE: Logitech 6 keys to touch Name / word on top "DARK FIELD" Name / word op bottom "Anywhere MX" It is wire-less; has a eye (lost this name) on bottom It will not work / talk to X-windows. Any help is usefull. Thanks... Maybe bluetooth. Should be a button on the bottom that starts a 'pair' function. Use bluetoothctl, scan, to see if the mouse appears.
Re: Test USB
On 8/25/22 09:58, Vitaly Shevtsov wrote: I'm not sure what you mean, but kernel reports this in dmesg On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 9:26 PM Todd Gruhn wrote: If I attach anything to a USB port ; how to I ping all USB ports to see if this device is attached ? If I messed up, I had a brain operation... lsusb?
Re: OT - I have a NUC
On 10/11/21 3:25 PM, Bob Bernstein wrote: On Mon, 11 Oct 2021, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On my NUC, there is a connector between the SATA connector and the SATA power connector. May one ask, do you run NetBSD on your NUC? No, I am running Ubuntu. Long Story... I had FreeBSD on it at one time, no problems, just needed to have Linux for some compatibility issues. Overnight I learned that the CMOS battery in my NUC has expired, and that was pretty much the end of the road for me and this NUC. I'm sending it to a young(er) member of the family who's expressed an interest. The thing has blossomed into a mental health issue for me. Get thee behind me, NUC! Maybe all it needs is a new CR2032 and re-flash the BIOS. From the manual: "If the battery and AC power fail, date and time values will be reset and the user will be notified during the POST. When the voltage drops below a certain level, the BIOS Setup program settings stored in CMOS RAM (for example, the date and time) might not be accurate." Tom Dean
Re: OT - I have a NUC
On 10/11/21 10:10 AM, Rhialto wrote: On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 17:07:03 -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: On Sun, 10 Oct 2021, Rhialto wrote: ahcisata0 port 0: PHY offline This seems to be the point where things start failing. Am I being told that the two tiny little connectors from the SSD's "carrier" (for lack of the correct term) that plug into what I suppose might be called the thing's mainboard need to be reseated? Definitely check the cabling. I don't have an example handy of what it looks like when a device is connected, but powered off. But so far it looks like the port thinks that no cable + device is connected. This may still be a software problem. It could also be that the device is connected but not powered properly. For that it usually has a separate cable, with a connector similar to the SATA cable, but a different width. Sometimes the two connectors may be combined in one big one, I suppose, but in that case I expect to cables connected to such a connector, because one goes to the motherboard and the other to the power supply On my NUC, there is a connector between the SATA connector and the SATA power connector. Tom Dean
Re: OT - I have a NUC
On 10/10/21 8:01 AM, Martin Husemann wrote: On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 10:36:38AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: It matched in overall appearance things termed "SATA" in some of the youtube videos I watched. Measures 4" x 2.75". It is labeled "Solid State Drive." That should be a SATA 2.5" SSD (the alternative called M.2 module is a lot smaller, typical would be a 2280 variant which is 22mm x 80mm, or 0.87" x 3.15"). So it should have shown up as wd0 on your sata controller (but no drives appeared in your dmesg). Strange. Martin Maybe silly, but, ... Is the SATA cable connection inserted firm on both ends? Does the SATA cable have 1 or 2 connectors on the computer end? My NUC has a SATA power connector and a SATA connector. "SATA power connector (1.25 mm pitch)" and "SATA 6.0 Gb/s connector" Tom Dean