Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Friday 03 October 2003 04:24 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Why bother? Just filter. Never try to teach a pig to dance. You waste your time and annoy the pig. Stephen, you've missed too many county fairs... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 17:07, Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: On Friday 03 October 2003 04:24 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Why bother? Just filter. Never try to teach a pig to dance. You waste your time and annoy the pig. Stephen, you've missed too many county fairs... Way I heard it Never Wrestle with a pig...You get dirty..and the pig enjoys it __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
Aron Smith wrote: On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 17:07, Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: On Friday 03 October 2003 04:24 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Why bother? Just filter. Never try to teach a pig to dance. You waste your time and annoy the pig. Stephen, you've missed too many county fairs... Way I heard it Never Wrestle with a pig...You get dirty..and the pig enjoys it Shouldn't pig wrestling/dancing be on the OT list? Or are these Mandrake packages that I just haven't installed yet? ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 18:55, Margot wrote: Aron Smith wrote: On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 17:07, Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: On Friday 03 October 2003 04:24 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Why bother? Just filter. Never try to teach a pig to dance. You waste your time and annoy the pig. Stephen, you've missed too many county fairs... Way I heard it Never Wrestle with a pig...You get dirty..and the pig enjoys it Shouldn't pig wrestling/dancing be on the OT list? Or are these Mandrake packages that I just haven't installed yet? ;-) Gonna take ya to Alabama girl then we can hypnotize chickens after the pig dancingg __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Friday 03 Oct 2003 9:15 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 11:24:32 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snark! I doubt if they will affect the list archives - although mine were diverted by mozilla filter into my newbie list folder, I think that was because they had [newbie] as part of the subject line - the messages were addressed to my email address, not to the list. Margot sylpheed has an option in its filters DO NOT RECEIVE from server essentially...won't even d/l the thing. One possible problem there is if you use a spam filtering proxy. Since sylpheed would be pulling from the proxy, the spam would remain there, and would build up. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
I just received five copies of the following message, sent to my email address and not to the list.Anyone else get any? Should I reply to M J Pipkin? Margot Original Message Subject: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 From: M J Pipkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send no further newbie communicationsand remove my name from your list. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
Margot wrote: I just received five copies of the following message, sent to my email address and not to the list.Anyone else get any? Should I reply to M J Pipkin? Margot Original Message Subject: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 From: M J Pipkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send no further newbie communicationsand remove my name from your list. I replied, somewhat brusquely: This is also unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Maybe I should have also have pointed out that unsolicited spam is redundant, since solicited spam would be a contradiction in terms. Sir Robin -- Hackers appear to wear black more because it goes with everything and hides dirt than because they want to look like goths. - Eric Raymond Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
Robin Turner wrote: Margot wrote: I just received five copies of the following message, sent to my email address and not to the list.Anyone else get any? Should I reply to M J Pipkin? Margot Original Message Subject: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:18:19 -0700 From: M J Pipkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Please send no further newbie communicationsand remove my name from your list. I replied, somewhat brusquely: This is also unsolicited spam and an invasion of my privacy. Maybe I should have also have pointed out that unsolicited spam is redundant, since solicited spam would be a contradiction in terms. Sir Robin Hmmm...surely it is possible to buy tinned meat over the internet? That would be solicited spam... Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
That's okay for us with decent connections but what about the poor souls with dial up still? And think about how crazy the archives are going to look. I think we really need someone at the server end dev nulling them before they get to the list. Or at least trying to stop it ourselves. Tony. -Original Message- From: HaywireMac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 10:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)] On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:07:13 +0300 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I replied, somewhat brusquely: I doubt you could out-brusque me... ;-) I called him Pippy. Anyhow, I think it is an automated response, prolly a bounce. Best just to /dev/null it. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Facts are the enemy of truth. -- Don Quixote -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:52:00 +0100 Tony S. Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: That's okay for us with decent connections but what about the poor souls with dial up still? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MailFilter Deletes 'em right off the POP server. Gotta love it. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ I have often regretted my speech, never my silence. -- Publilius Syrus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
Tony S. Sykes wrote: That's okay for us with decent connections but what about the poor souls with dial up still? And think about how crazy the archives are going to look. I think we really need someone at the server end dev nulling them before they get to the list. Or at least trying to stop it ourselves. Tony. I doubt if they will affect the list archives - although mine were diverted by mozilla filter into my newbie list folder, I think that was because they had [newbie] as part of the subject line - the messages were addressed to my email address, not to the list. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Friday 03 Oct 2003 10:38 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:07:13 +0300 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I replied, somewhat brusquely: I doubt you could out-brusque me... ;-) I called him Pippy. Anyhow, I think it is an automated response, prolly a bounce. Best just to /dev/null it. This highlights the danger of setting up an automatic bounce or reject, without sufficient monitoring. He/she had to sign up in the first place. If there was any reasonable monitoring it would quickly be noticed that list traffic was being affected. However, there have been several cases where it has been obvious that people have not realised what they were signing up for. I wonder if it is time we considered asking MandrakeSoft to add to the sign-up invitation the fact that signing up to an active list indicates a willingness to receive considerable amounts of mail? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:31:20 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: This highlights the danger of setting up an automatic bounce or reject, without sufficient monitoring. He/she had to sign up in the first place. Not necessarily, as we have found out with Mr. SMS. It is possible, even likely, that the list mail which is bothering Pippy so much is somehow being forwarded to Pippy from another address which *did* subscribe. The only way to know for sure, I guess, is to have a list admin type check the records. I *do* however second your recommendation that a warning (although I would not describe it as such on the welcome page, LOL!) be added so that subscribers know what they are in for, esp from certain people... ;-) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Goodbye, cool world. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 06:34, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:31:20 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: This highlights the danger of setting up an automatic bounce or reject, without sufficient monitoring. He/she had to sign up in the first place. Not necessarily, as we have found out with Mr. SMS. It is possible, even likely, that the list mail which is bothering Pippy so much is somehow being forwarded to Pippy from another address which *did* subscribe. The only way to know for sure, I guess, is to have a list admin type check the records. I *do* however second your recommendation that a warning (although I would not describe it as such on the welcome page, LOL!) be added so that subscribers know what they are in for, esp from certain people... ;-) would it be possible to introduce Mr. Pippy to Mr. SMS ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 09:31, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 03 Oct 2003 10:38 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:07:13 +0300 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I replied, somewhat brusquely: I doubt you could out-brusque me... ;-) I called him Pippy. Anyhow, I think it is an automated response, prolly a bounce. Best just to /dev/null it. This highlights the danger of setting up an automatic bounce or reject, without sufficient monitoring. He/she had to sign up in the first place. If there was any reasonable monitoring it would quickly be noticed that list traffic was being affected. However, there have been several cases where it has been obvious that people have not realised what they were signing up for. I wonder if it is time we considered asking MandrakeSoft to add to the sign-up invitation the fact that signing up to an active list indicates a willingness to receive considerable amounts of mail? Anne it occurs to me that this might even be a filter someone setup to kill the SMS message stuff, and now all the stuff with newbie in the header or body gets /dev/nulled, so he don't even see the replies. next he will be wondering why he does not get even his posts to the listg -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:45:28 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: would it be possible to introduce Mr. Pippy to Mr. SMS ? That could possibly create a loop so powerful so as to create an infinite singularity, imploding the universe and ending existence. Wait til I finish my coffee, okay? -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ When the wind is great, bow before it; when the wind is heavy, yield to it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 06:45, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:45:28 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: would it be possible to introduce Mr. Pippy to Mr. SMS ? That could possibly create a loop so powerful so as to create an infinite singularity, imploding the universe and ending existence. Wait til I finish my coffee, okay? And the Hee-Haw Memorial Paul Dirac award goes to Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 09:54, Aron Smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 06:45, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:45:28 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: would it be possible to introduce Mr. Pippy to Mr. SMS ? That could possibly create a loop so powerful so as to create an infinite singularity, imploding the universe and ending existence. Wait til I finish my coffee, okay? And the Hee-Haw Memorial Paul Dirac award goes to but I have not gotten anything from MJ this morning, anyone else still getting them? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
Ed, but I have not gotten anything from MJ this morning, anyone else still getting them? Not as yet, but I´m still getting the SMS message one though. Regards Trevor Rhodes === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.1 Registered Linux user # 290542 at http://counter.li.org Registered Machine #'s 186951 Mandrake Club Silver Member Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === 00:24:51 up 1 day, 5:32, 3 users, load average: 2.00, 2.02, 2.02 -- Never mud wrestle with a pig.. you get dirty and the pig enjoys it! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 10:25, Trevor Rhodes wrote: Ed, but I have not gotten anything from MJ this morning, anyone else still getting them? Not as yet, but I´m still getting the SMS message one though. Regards Trevor Rhodes I would _never_ suggest that anyone attempt to get the attention of an ISP by using the 'whois' contact names and forwarding each piece of spam (autoreply) to their email addresses, but my checking of the only IP number in the headers that was not a restricted address (81.211.47.3) gives me a couple of addresses to forward all my SMS messages and headers to. % This is the RIPE Whois server. % The objects are in RPSL format. % % Rights restricted by copyright. % See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html inetnum: 81.211.47.0 - 81.211.47.255 netname: SOVINTEL-MTS-NET descr:Moscow Russia descr:ID-6069, OJSC Mobile TeleSystems country: RU admin-c: VK229-RIPE tech-c: VK229-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: SOVINTEL-MNT notify: [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030505 source: RIPE route:81.211.0.0/17 descr:EDN Sovintel origin: AS8773 mnt-by: SOVINTEL-MNT changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20021104 source: RIPE person: Victor Krasnov address: CJSC Mobile TeleSystems address: 4, Marksistskaia address: 109147, Moscow phone:+7 095 7653209 fax-no: +7 095 7660040 nic-hdl: VK229-RIPE changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19971114 source: RIPE so lets see, if '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', and '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' are good addresses? no bounce yet... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On 03 Oct 2003 10:41:23 -0400 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I would _never_ suggest that anyone attempt to get the attention of an ISP by using the 'whois' contact names and forwarding each piece of spam(autoreply) to their email addresses, you naughty boy, you! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ It's very inconvenient to be mortal -- you never know when everything may suddenly stop happening. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:45:28 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipple would it be possible to introduce Mr. Pippy to Mr. SMS ? OMFG Aron! you're just evil!!! ROFL! TY ! best laugh of the day yet! a giggling Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: M J Pipkin [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Given Up (was Who uses AC97?)]
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 11:24:32 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snark! I doubt if they will affect the list archives - although mine were diverted by mozilla filter into my newbie list folder, I think that was because they had [newbie] as part of the subject line - the messages were addressed to my email address, not to the list. Margot sylpheed has an option in its filters DO NOT RECEIVE from server essentially...won't even d/l the thing. *s* Smerty Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
