[Openfontlibrary] urw donated or not

2008-05-07 Thread minombresbond
the urw font package is one of the best quality collection of
free-as-freedom fonts, gplized for the ghostscript project

the people say on the web that these sources were *donated* by urw

but, in the Raph Levin blog in advocato I found:
http://www.advogato.org/person/raph/diary/257.html

By the way, URW did not donate these fonts under the GPL out of their
own hearts. Artifex paid good money for them, and donated them out of a
mix of self-interest and altruism.

Is this really the case?

thanks!

BTW: i wrote some posts in www.disenolibre.org
for disseminating information about the next LGM 2008 and free
font movement topics, Open Font Library too (in spanish!)
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Re: [Openfontlibrary] [Fwd: Updates of liberation-fonts.]

2008-05-07 Thread Gustavo Ferreira
hello,

  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=45785

reading the changelog in the link above, it seems like there were  
only small changes in some metainfo fields, and no changes in the  
design (except for alignement mismatch dot accents) -- is that right?

also: was the license updated to plain GPL+font exception, without  
the polemic extra clauses under which the first release came out?

and finally: is there a zip with the current ttf versions of the  
fonts somewhere?

thanks,
- gustavo.





On May 6, 2008, at 4:16 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:

  Message transféré 
 De: Caius Carlos Chance
 À: fedora-fonts-list
 Sujet: Updates of liberation-fonts.
 Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 16:54:53 +1000

 Hi,

 This is Caius Chance who is the package maintainer from Red Hat. I am
 writing for the recent updates of Liberation Fonts:

 - The latest stable version is liberation-fonts-1.03-1.fc9
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=45785 .

 - The font tarball had been hosted on
 https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/. It is in trunk towards
 version 1.04.

 - The source on fh.o is still in progress of conversion. We are  
 quality
 checking to see if the generated TTFs from SFDs (which generated from
 initial TTFs of original manufacturer) are the same.

 ref: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=444392

 Best Regards,
 Caius.

 -- 
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Re: [Openfontlibrary] [Fwd: Updates of liberation-fonts.]

2008-05-07 Thread Gustavo Ferreira
hello nicolas,

this is what i thought, thanks for explaining.

regards,
- gustavo.


On May 7, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:

 Le mercredi 07 mai 2008 à 15:07 -0300, Gustavo Ferreira a écrit :
 hello,

 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=45785

 reading the changelog in the link above, it seems like there were
 only small changes in some metainfo fields, and no changes in the
 design (except for alignement mismatch dot accents) -- is that
 right?

 My (limited) understanding is Liberation is getting re-hosted from
 RedHat to Fedora with the objective to set it up as a normal floss
 project, with regular public releases, scripted build-from-source, sfd
 sources in a VCS, patch merging, etc.

 So the first step is not so much changing the font as switching its
 infrastructure so it can be maintained as a community project (like
 DejaVu, Lohit, etc)

 You can get more answers on the Fedora fonts list

 also: was the license updated to plain GPL+font exception, without
 the polemic extra clauses under which the first release came out?

 and finally: is there a zip with the current ttf versions of the
 fonts somewhere?

 -- 
 Nicolas Mailhot

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] [Fwd: Updates of liberation-fonts.]

2008-05-07 Thread Andrey V. Panov
Does this mean that Ascender will not develop the fonts further and the 
develepment will be done in the framework of this project?

On 7 мая 2008, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
  Message transféré 
 De: Caius Carlos Chance
 À: fedora-fonts-list
 Sujet: Updates of liberation-fonts.
 Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 16:54:53 +1000

 Hi,

 This is Caius Chance who is the package maintainer from Red Hat. I am
 writing for the recent updates of Liberation Fonts:

 - The latest stable version is liberation-fonts-1.03-1.fc9
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=45785 .

 - The font tarball had been hosted on
 https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/. It is in trunk towards
 version 1.04.

 - The source on fh.o is still in progress of conversion. We are quality
 checking to see if the generated TTFs from SFDs (which generated from
 initial TTFs of original manufacturer) are the same.

 ref: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=444392

 Best Regards,
 Caius.



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Re: [Openfontlibrary] urw donated or not

2008-05-07 Thread Christopher Fynn

I seem to recall that in early versions of Ghostscript
the URW fonts had a *much* more restricted licence
- but they were distributed free of charge

Question - did Artifex pay only to get the licence changed
to GPL or did they pay URW to allow the earlier
free of charge  distribution

- Chris

minombresbond wrote:

the urw font package is one of the best quality collection of
free-as-freedom fonts, gplized for the ghostscript project

the people say on the web that these sources were *donated* by urw

but, in the Raph Levin blog in advocato I found:
http://www.advogato.org/person/raph/diary/257.html

By the way, URW did not donate these fonts under the GPL out of their
own hearts. Artifex paid good money for them, and donated them out of a
mix of self-interest and altruism.

Is this really the case?

thanks!



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Re: [Openfontlibrary] [Fwd: Updates of liberation-fonts.]

2008-05-07 Thread Christopher Fynn

On 7 мая 2008, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:

 Message transféré 
De: Caius Carlos Chance
À: fedora-fonts-list
Sujet: Updates of liberation-fonts.
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 16:54:53 +1000



...


- The source on fh.o is still in progress of conversion. We are quality
checking to see if the generated TTFs from SFDs (which generated from
initial TTFs of original manufacturer) are the same.

ref: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=444392

Best Regards,
Caius. 



So the ultimate source of the (sfd) source for the new TTFs will be
the original TTFs.

- C

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