Re: [Openstack] OpenStack and OpenFlow

2011-10-31 Thread Dan Wendlandt
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Yoshisato Ushio yoshisato.us...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello Folks,
 I am interested in the use of OpenFlow technology with OpenStack. But
 honestly speaking, I have no deep expertise in OpenStack.Then let me ask
 questions.

 Q1) In order to use openflow features with OpenStack, such as, Open
 vSwitch or OpenFlow capable HW switches, can I assume that all I should do
 for this is to develop a quantum plugin module for openflow under nova
 manager ?


Hi Yoshisato,

If you are trying to enable the use of OpenStack with a new network
switching technology, then yes, developing a Quantum plugin is the right
way to go.  It may be possible to leverage work done by others writing
similar plugins though.

Since our developer documentation as-of-yet non-existent, I whipped up a
quick wiki page with some advice on developing a plugin:
http://wiki.openstack.org/QuantumDevelopment . Others should feel free to
expand on this page.

Also, just to clarify one thing though: Quantum is actually a separate
codebase + runtime process from Nova, so you shouldn't need to modify Nova
itself.



 Q2) Are there any open-source codes of quantum plugin for openflow ?


I doubt that there will be one canonical openflow plugin for Quantum, as
OpenFlow itself is really just a protocol to talk to a (virtual or
physical) switch's forwarding table.  There are many different ways to
build a Quantum plugin that uses OpenFlow, each of which make different
trade-offs in terms of scalability, fault-tolerance, complexity,
feature-richness, etc.  You can probably start out by taking a look at some
of the existing plugins and seeing what ideas you can borrow with respect
to your own implementation.  Feel free to send email to the netstack list
if you have more detailed questions.

Dan



 Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
 Yoshisato Ushio

 ___
 Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack
 Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net
 Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack
 More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp




-- 
~~~
Dan Wendlandt
Sr. Product Manager
Nicira Networks: www.nicira.com
cell: 650-906-2650
twitter: danwendlant
~~~
___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack
Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Openstack] OpenStack and OpenFlow

2011-10-30 Thread Takashi Torii
Hello Michael and Yoshisato,
 
Thanks for introducing our presentation, the slides can be downloaded from here:
http://wiki.openstack.org/NetstackEssexSummit
 
We have been developping Quantum plugin for our OpenFlow controller, 
trema ( http://trema.github.com/trema/ http://trema.github.com/trema/ ), and 
commercial OFC( http://www.necam.com/PFlow/
http://www.necam.com/PFlow/).
By using the plugin, you can control OpenFlow-based Open vSwitch and hardware 
switch.
 
Absolutely we will open-source our Quantum plugin, we are planning it by the 
end of this year.
 
Takashi Torii
NEC Corporation
 
 
 



  _  

From: openstack-bounces+t-torii=mwb.biglobe.ne...@lists.launchpad.net
[mailto:openstack-bounces+t-torii=mwb.biglobe.ne...@lists.launchpad.net] On 
Behalf Of Michael J Fork
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 1:07 AM
To: Yoshisato Ushio
Cc: openstack-bounces+mjfork=us.ibm@lists.launchpad.net; 
openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack and OpenFlow


At the OpenStack conference in Boston, Su-hun Yun of NEC participated in the 
Networking Panel and talked about their OpenFlow
implementation for OpenStack.  Su-hun showed a recorded demo of the plugin they 
developed for Quantum that talked to an NEC OpenFlow
controller.  Unfortunately, I have searched around looking for the demo or 
additional details and have not been successful.  For
example, it was not clear if the plugin was going to be contributed to the 
Quantum project, open-sourced, or kept commercial. 

Michael

-
Michael Fork
Cloud Architect, Emerging Solutions
IBM Systems  Technology Group 



From:Yoshisato Ushio yoshisato.us...@gmail.com 
To:openstack@lists.launchpad.net 
Date:10/29/2011 02:08 AM 
Subject:[Openstack] OpenStack and OpenFlow 
Sent by:openstack-bounces+mjfork=us.ibm@lists.launchpad.net 

  _  




Hello Folks, 
I am interested in the use of OpenFlow technology with OpenStack. But honestly 
speaking, I have no deep expertise in OpenStack.Then
let me ask questions. 
  
Q1) In order to use openflow features with OpenStack, such as, Open vSwitch or 
OpenFlow capable HW switches, can I assume that all I
should do for this is to develop a quantum plugin module for openflow under 
nova manager ? 
Q2) Are there any open-source codes of quantum plugin for openflow ? 
  
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, 
Yoshisato Ushio___
Mailing list:  https://launchpad.net/~openstack 
https://launchpad.net/~openstack
Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe :  https://launchpad.net/~openstack 
https://launchpad.net/~openstack
More help   :  https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp 
https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp



___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack
Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Openstack] OpenStack and OpenFlow

2011-10-29 Thread Michael J Fork
At the OpenStack conference in Boston, Su-hun Yun of NEC participated in 
the Networking Panel and talked about their OpenFlow implementation for 
OpenStack.  Su-hun showed a recorded demo of the plugin they developed for 
Quantum that talked to an NEC OpenFlow controller.  Unfortunately, I have 
searched around looking for the demo or additional details and have not 
been successful.  For example, it was not clear if the plugin was going to 
be contributed to the Quantum project, open-sourced, or kept commercial.

Michael

-
Michael Fork
Cloud Architect, Emerging Solutions
IBM Systems  Technology Group



From:   Yoshisato Ushio yoshisato.us...@gmail.com
To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Date:   10/29/2011 02:08 AM
Subject:[Openstack] OpenStack and OpenFlow
Sent by:openstack-bounces+mjfork=us.ibm@lists.launchpad.net



Hello Folks,
I am interested in the use of OpenFlow technology with OpenStack. But 
honestly speaking, I have no deep expertise in OpenStack.Then let me ask 
questions.
 
Q1) In order to use openflow features with OpenStack, such as, Open 
vSwitch or OpenFlow capable HW switches, can I assume that all I should do 
for this is to develop a quantum plugin module for openflow under nova 
manager ?
Q2) Are there any open-source codes of quantum plugin for openflow ?
 
Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
Yoshisato Ushio___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack
Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack
Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Openstack] OpenStack and OpenFlow

2011-10-29 Thread Joseph Heck
There is an openVswitch driver for quantum right now, and i believe Nicira has 
a proprietary driver available as well, based on OpenFlow. there is a netstack 
group taht would be a good place to get more involved if you wanted to be 
involved with developing a quantum driver: https://launchpad.net/~netstack

- joe

On Oct 29, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Michael J Fork mjf...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 At the OpenStack conference in Boston, Su-hun Yun of NEC participated in the 
 Networking Panel and talked about their OpenFlow implementation for 
 OpenStack.  Su-hun showed a recorded demo of the plugin they developed for 
 Quantum that talked to an NEC OpenFlow controller.  Unfortunately, I have 
 searched around looking for the demo or additional details and have not been 
 successful.  For example, it was not clear if the plugin was going to be 
 contributed to the Quantum project, open-sourced, or kept commercial. 
 
 Michael
 
 -
 Michael Fork
 Cloud Architect, Emerging Solutions
 IBM Systems  Technology Group 
 
 
 
 From:Yoshisato Ushio yoshisato.us...@gmail.com 
 To:openstack@lists.launchpad.net 
 Date:10/29/2011 02:08 AM 
 Subject:[Openstack] OpenStack and OpenFlow 
 Sent by:openstack-bounces+mjfork=us.ibm@lists.launchpad.net 
 
 
 
 Hello Folks, 
 I am interested in the use of OpenFlow technology with OpenStack. But 
 honestly speaking, I have no deep expertise in OpenStack.Then let me ask 
 questions. 
   
 Q1) In order to use openflow features with OpenStack, such as, Open vSwitch 
 or OpenFlow capable HW switches, can I assume that all I should do for this 
 is to develop a quantum plugin module for openflow under nova manager ? 
 Q2) Are there any open-source codes of quantum plugin for openflow ? 
   
 Any advice would be greatly appreciated, 
 Yoshisato Ushio___
 Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack
 Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net
 Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack
 More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
 
 ___
 Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack
 Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net
 Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack
 More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack
Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp