Re: [OpenStack-Infra] Continued discussion of Winterscale naming
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 02:26:09PM -0700, Clark Boylan wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Clark Boylan wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > > The Infra team has been brainstorming and collecting feedback in > > > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-services-naming as to what > > > actual name/domain the Winterscale effort will use. If you've not > > > been following along, the earlier discussions can be found in the > > > following mailing list threads: > > > > > > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-May/005957.html > > > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-July/006010.html > > > > > > So far the "short list" at the bottom of the pad seems to contain > > > only one entry: OpenDev. > > > > > > The OpenStack Foundation has offered to let us take control of > > > opendev.org for this purpose if we would like. They have it mainly > > > as a defensive registration to protect the OpenDev Conference brand, > > > but use a separate opendevconf.org domain for that at present. The > > > opendev.org domain is just sitting parked on the same nameservers as > > > openstack.org right now, not in use for anything. The brand itself > > > has a positive connotation in the community so far, and the OpenDev > > > Conferences share a lot of similar goals (bringing communities of > > > people together to collaborate openly on design and development > > > activities) so this even provides some useful synergy around the > > > name and possible promotional tie-ins with the events if we like. > > > > > > I know lots of us are eager to move forward on the rebranding, so I > > > wanted to wake this discussion back up and try to see if we can > > > drive it to a conclusion. As we continue to take on hosting for > > > additional large projects, having somewhere for them to send the > > > contributors and users in their community which has a distinct > > > identity unclouded by OpenStack itself will help make our services > > > much more welcoming. If you don't particularly like the OpenDev idea > > > or have alternatives you think might achieve greater consensus > > > within our team and present a better image to our extended > > > community, present and future, please update the above mentioned pad > > > or follow up to this mailing list thread. Thanks! > > > > I am a fan of OpenDev. I think it gives a path forward that works for > > the immediate future and long term. https://review.opendev.org seems > > like a reasonable place to do code review for a project :) > > > > I do think it would be good to continue collecting input particularly > > from those involved in the day to day infra activities. If we can reach > > rough consensus over the next week or so that would give us the > > opportunity to use time at the PTG to do a rough sketch of how we can > > start "migrating" to the new name. > > > > Your feedback much appreciated. > > > > It has been about 3 weeks and the feedback so far has largely been positive. > The one concern we have seen raised is that this may be confusing with the > OpenDev conference. Fungi makes a great argument that cross promoting between > the conference and the development tooling can be a net positive since many > of our goals overlap. > > Finding that argument compelling myself, and not seeing any counterarguments > I think we should move forward with using the OpenDev name and opendev.org > domain for the team and services that we host. > > Long story short let's go ahead and use this name and start making progress > on this effort. Next stop: etherpad.opendev.org. > > Thank you, > Clark > +1 for etherpad.opendev.org - Paul ___ OpenStack-Infra mailing list OpenStack-Infra@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra
Re: [OpenStack-Infra] Continued discussion of Winterscale naming
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > The Infra team has been brainstorming and collecting feedback in > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-services-naming as to what > actual name/domain the Winterscale effort will use. If you've not > been following along, the earlier discussions can be found in the > following mailing list threads: > > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-May/005957.html > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-July/006010.html > > So far the "short list" at the bottom of the pad seems to contain > only one entry: OpenDev. > > The OpenStack Foundation has offered to let us take control of > opendev.org for this purpose if we would like. They have it mainly > as a defensive registration to protect the OpenDev Conference brand, > but use a separate opendevconf.org domain for that at present. The > opendev.org domain is just sitting parked on the same nameservers as > openstack.org right now, not in use for anything. The brand itself > has a positive connotation in the community so far, and the OpenDev > Conferences share a lot of similar goals (bringing communities of > people together to collaborate openly on design and development > activities) so this even provides some useful synergy around the > name and possible promotional tie-ins with the events if we like. > > I know lots of us are eager to move forward on the rebranding, so I > wanted to wake this discussion back up and try to see if we can > drive it to a conclusion. As we continue to take on hosting for > additional large projects, having somewhere for them to send the > contributors and users in their community which has a distinct > identity unclouded by OpenStack itself will help make our services > much more welcoming. If you don't particularly like the OpenDev idea > or have alternatives you think might achieve greater consensus > within our team and present a better image to our extended > community, present and future, please update the above mentioned pad > or follow up to this mailing list thread. Thanks! I am a fan of OpenDev. I think it gives a path forward that works for the immediate future and long term. https://review.opendev.org seems like a reasonable place to do code review for a project :) I do think it would be good to continue collecting input particularly from those involved in the day to day infra activities. If we can reach rough consensus over the next week or so that would give us the opportunity to use time at the PTG to do a rough sketch of how we can start "migrating" to the new name. Your feedback much appreciated. Thank you, Clark ___ OpenStack-Infra mailing list OpenStack-Infra@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra
Re: [OpenStack-Infra] Continued discussion of Winterscale naming
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 06:33:06PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > The Infra team has been brainstorming and collecting feedback in > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-services-naming as to what > actual name/domain the Winterscale effort will use. If you've not > been following along, the earlier discussions can be found in the > following mailing list threads: > > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-May/005957.html > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-July/006010.html > > So far the "short list" at the bottom of the pad seems to contain > only one entry: OpenDev. > > The OpenStack Foundation has offered to let us take control of > opendev.org for this purpose if we would like. They have it mainly > as a defensive registration to protect the OpenDev Conference brand, > but use a separate opendevconf.org domain for that at present. The > opendev.org domain is just sitting parked on the same nameservers as > openstack.org right now, not in use for anything. The brand itself > has a positive connotation in the community so far, and the OpenDev > Conferences share a lot of similar goals (bringing communities of > people together to collaborate openly on design and development > activities) so this even provides some useful synergy around the > name and possible promotional tie-ins with the events if we like. > > I know lots of us are eager to move forward on the rebranding, so I > wanted to wake this discussion back up and try to see if we can > drive it to a conclusion. As we continue to take on hosting for > additional large projects, having somewhere for them to send the > contributors and users in their community which has a distinct > identity unclouded by OpenStack itself will help make our services > much more welcoming. If you don't particularly like the OpenDev idea > or have alternatives you think might achieve greater consensus > within our team and present a better image to our extended > community, present and future, please update the above mentioned pad > or follow up to this mailing list thread. Thanks! > -- > Jeremy Stanley > +1 Exciting! - Paul ___ OpenStack-Infra mailing list OpenStack-Infra@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra
Re: [OpenStack-Infra] Continued discussion of Winterscale naming
On 08/21/2018 01:33 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: The Infra team has been brainstorming and collecting feedback in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-services-naming as to what actual name/domain the Winterscale effort will use. If you've not been following along, the earlier discussions can be found in the following mailing list threads: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-May/005957.html http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-July/006010.html So far the "short list" at the bottom of the pad seems to contain only one entry: OpenDev. The OpenStack Foundation has offered to let us take control of opendev.org for this purpose if we would like. They have it mainly as a defensive registration to protect the OpenDev Conference brand, but use a separate opendevconf.org domain for that at present. The opendev.org domain is just sitting parked on the same nameservers as openstack.org right now, not in use for anything. The brand itself has a positive connotation in the community so far, and the OpenDev Conferences share a lot of similar goals (bringing communities of people together to collaborate openly on design and development activities) so this even provides some useful synergy around the name and possible promotional tie-ins with the events if we like. I know lots of us are eager to move forward on the rebranding, so I wanted to wake this discussion back up and try to see if we can drive it to a conclusion. As we continue to take on hosting for additional large projects, having somewhere for them to send the contributors and users in their community which has a distinct identity unclouded by OpenStack itself will help make our services much more welcoming. If you don't particularly like the OpenDev idea or have alternatives you think might achieve greater consensus within our team and present a better image to our extended community, present and future, please update the above mentioned pad or follow up to this mailing list thread. Thanks! ++ to OpenDev ___ OpenStack-Infra mailing list OpenStack-Infra@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra
Re: [OpenStack-Infra] Continued discussion of Winterscale naming
It's a +1 for me, I really like the name. On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:33 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > The Infra team has been brainstorming and collecting feedback in > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-services-naming as to what > actual name/domain the Winterscale effort will use. If you've not > been following along, the earlier discussions can be found in the > following mailing list threads: > > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-May/005957.html > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-July/006010.html > > So far the "short list" at the bottom of the pad seems to contain > only one entry: OpenDev. > > The OpenStack Foundation has offered to let us take control of > opendev.org for this purpose if we would like. They have it mainly > as a defensive registration to protect the OpenDev Conference brand, > but use a separate opendevconf.org domain for that at present. The > opendev.org domain is just sitting parked on the same nameservers as > openstack.org right now, not in use for anything. The brand itself > has a positive connotation in the community so far, and the OpenDev > Conferences share a lot of similar goals (bringing communities of > people together to collaborate openly on design and development > activities) so this even provides some useful synergy around the > name and possible promotional tie-ins with the events if we like. > > I know lots of us are eager to move forward on the rebranding, so I > wanted to wake this discussion back up and try to see if we can > drive it to a conclusion. As we continue to take on hosting for > additional large projects, having somewhere for them to send the > contributors and users in their community which has a distinct > identity unclouded by OpenStack itself will help make our services > much more welcoming. If you don't particularly like the OpenDev idea > or have alternatives you think might achieve greater consensus > within our team and present a better image to our extended > community, present and future, please update the above mentioned pad > or follow up to this mailing list thread. Thanks! > -- > Jeremy Stanley > > ___ > OpenStack-Infra mailing list > OpenStack-Infra@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra -- Mohammed Naser — vexxhost - D. 514-316-8872 D. 800-910-1726 ext. 200 E. mna...@vexxhost.com W. http://vexxhost.com ___ OpenStack-Infra mailing list OpenStack-Infra@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra
