Re: Smallest cheapest device to run a tor home server?

2008-04-11 Thread Jonathan Addington
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Rochester TOR Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Maybe someone else has found a better answer but when I researched this I
 found that although dd-wrt can run tor, there aren't any updated pre-built
 packages so you will most likely have to compile your own.

 Check out the archives for some help:
 http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Sep-2006/msg00389.html

 I still think in the end it's better to run a cheap computer dedicated to
 tor than to try to install it onto the firmware.  If you do find an easier
 solution, let us know! :)

 ROC Tor Admin




 On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Chris Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Tom Arnold writes:
 
   I have a linux WLAN router ( DD-WRT ) with 125 Mhz, 4 mb flash and 16
  mb
   RAM ( 3 mb free ). Is that enough to run Tor?  ( I didnt find any
  recent
   ipk packages .. so i guess it is not worth it otherwise people would
  do it
   ... ) Would a 32 mb device with 200 mhz do the trick? Or what about
  the
   NSLU2 or the Linkstation. Or is a used laptop the best choice?
 
  Those are all likely to be insufficient. A used laptop could work, or
  you
  could take a look at sites like http://mini-itx.com/ for small systems.
 
 

Personally I am running Tor on an old server, 2x500Mhz PII's with a cable
modem (e.g., keeping ~1350 connections open at once). While I have quite a
bit of RAM and hard drive space Tor doesn't take up much of either, and the
computing power is more than enough. If you want me to run some benchmark's
I'd be more than happy to.

-madjon


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Re: Smallest cheapest device to run a tor home server?

2008-04-11 Thread Udo van den Heuvel
Tom Arnold wrote:
 Would a 32 mb device with 200 mhz do the trick? Or what about the NSLU2
 or the Linkstation. Or is a used laptop the best choice?
 So many questions :) ( BTW i didnt find any requirements on the homepage )

A fanless VIA Epia board, booted from CF could do the trick.


Re: Smallest cheapest device to run a tor home server?

2008-04-11 Thread Tom Arnold
Yes, Epia would certainly do the trick. I guess a 32mb router with 200 mhz
could do it too. The Slug (  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2  ) seems to
work too.
But i think something more powerfull like the gigabit Linkstation (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkstation ) will certainly be enough to route
60 kb/sec ( 30 up and down ) .. why would TOR need more resouces??

I think i might get an old Pentium notebook with 64mb+ RAM or a Linkstation.


Re: Smallest cheapest device to run a tor home server?

2008-04-11 Thread F. Fox
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Jonathan Addington wrote:
(much snippage)
 Personally I am running Tor on an old server, 2x500Mhz PII's with a
 cable modem (e.g., keeping ~1350 connections open at once). While I have
 quite a bit of RAM and hard drive space Tor doesn't take up much of
 either, and the computing power is more than enough. If you want me to
 run some benchmark's I'd be more than happy to.
(snip)

Kitsune started on an old PII 300Mhz with 256MB of RAM; I've since
migrated it to some AMD Duron 800Mhz/512MB RAM hardware a friend gave me.

The Debian Etch install on the hard drive was transferred in its
entirety via a dd command, although I did swap the generic x86 kernel
for a K7-optimized one.

Kitsune had been a guard node before, while on the PII; on the Duron,
it's been running for about a month, and has been marked as
Fast/Guard/Stable for most of that time.

It's important to note that - as some have noted here - the stability of
the perimeter router/firewall is VERY important. I used to have a WRT54G
running HyperWRT/Thibor at the front lines; it crashed A LOT (it
couldn't handle the large state tables that were being generated).

After migrating kitsune, I killed the 54G's routing function, and
converted it to a switch/AP only. The old PII that used to run
kitsune, got a pfSense install.

It's VERY stable, and the traffic shaper is really nice; I haven't had
to use any traffic limitations on kitsune itself.

*

So, bottom line, the processing requirements aren't bad, but you need to
be careful with what you do for a perimeter router/firewall. =:oD

- --
F. Fox
AAS, CompTIA A+/Network+/Security+
Owner of Tor node kitsune
http://fenrisfox.livejournal.com
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Re: Smallest cheapest device to run a tor home server?

2008-04-11 Thread F. Fox
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I should also note that with the pfSense box, I used a three-interface
configuration, allowing for a true DMZ; this not only gave me more
peace-of-mind, but made traffic shaping for the Tor server a lot easier.

I just used catch-all rules for all traffic coming from and going into
the DMZ, putting it in pfSense's P2P queue - the lowest priority.

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F. Fox
AAS, CompTIA A+/Network+/Security+
Owner of Tor node kitsune
http://fenrisfox.livejournal.com
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Smallest cheapest device to run a tor home server?

2008-04-10 Thread Tom Arnold
Hello Everone ( I am new ),

i love Tor and i want to contribute.
First of all does it make sense to run a tor relay on a ADSL line. I would
be willing to share 30-40kb a sec 24/7.
I have a linux WLAN router ( DD-WRT ) with 125 Mhz, 4 mb flash and 16 mb RAM
( 3 mb free ). Is that enough to run Tor?
( I didnt find any recent ipk packages .. so i guess it is not worth it
otherwise people would do it ... )
Would a 32 mb device with 200 mhz do the trick? Or what about the NSLU2 or
the Linkstation. Or is a used laptop the best choice?
So many questions :) ( BTW i didnt find any requirements on the homepage )

ThanksRegards,

T0M

PS: sorry for asking, but i already asked on the german CCC list but didnt
get any definite answers.


Re: Smallest cheapest device to run a tor home server?

2008-04-10 Thread Chris Palmer
Tom Arnold writes:

 I have a linux WLAN router ( DD-WRT ) with 125 Mhz, 4 mb flash and 16 mb
 RAM ( 3 mb free ). Is that enough to run Tor?  ( I didnt find any recent
 ipk packages .. so i guess it is not worth it otherwise people would do it
 ... ) Would a 32 mb device with 200 mhz do the trick? Or what about the
 NSLU2 or the Linkstation. Or is a used laptop the best choice?

Those are all likely to be insufficient. A used laptop could work, or you
could take a look at sites like http://mini-itx.com/ for small systems.