Re: First Pano Try
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I found a kit to convert a min MF to a 35mm panoramic, and cut it to fit my old Pentax 6X7. It worked OK, but I discovered it's better just to use the normal 6X7 with 120 film and a wide angle lens and crop the image to create the panorama that you want. I eventually came to the same conclusion. But now that I can scan a 35mm strip at double the resolution at which I can scan 6x7, I'll have to look into it again :) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #988
Cotty, Thank God you're around to bring us perspective. At 09:14 PM 9/14/03 +0100, you wrote: On 14/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I find my level of tolerance towards others is in proportion to the amount of dust and noise emanating from the bloody quarry next door. Last week I even shouted at my little dog when she asked to go downstairs to pee; she can come up alone, but has to be carried down. Jumping Jehosaphat. Don, you've really got a talking dog? Keep him alive until I get there - all your troubles will soon be over! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is designed by the post office, even the sleaze. O'Rourke, P.J.
Re: *istD Question
Yes it will. You as an owner of many srcrew mount lenses can really be happy with the *ist D! Arnold J. C. O'Connell schrieb: Does anybody know if the *istD will work in aperture priority mode with a screwmount lens mounted via the adapter? (lens pre-stopped down of course) JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com
Re: Flash questions
Bojidar wrote: You also mention in the site that the 360FTZ can do slave flash. Did you mean the 330FTZ or the 360FGZ? BD I don't think that the 330 FTZ can, but I do not own the 360 either, so BD I am not totally sure. The 360FGZ can act as a slave both in wireless control or as a plain vanilla slave triggered by any other flash. Servus, Alin
Re: Camera size and lens size.
The viewfinder image has a bit to do with this as well. I can't say for sure why other manufactures changed from 55mm to 50mm lenses as standard normal but heres an exercise that owners of both a MX and a SP-F can do. (I think this should also work with an esII, KM, KX K1000 and possibly others)). Mount a 55mm on the Spotty, and a 50mm on the MX, I used the SMCT f1.8 and SMCP-M f1.7. Focus both on a target then hold each as if for a vertical shot and look through both finders at the same time. You will notice that the images blend together as if you were using a pair of binoculars. If you reverse the lens combination, a 50 on the Spotty and a 55 on the MX this no longer works, (and it was giving me a headache). This of course shows 1.) Why Pentax decided to change from 55 to 50 as their standard normal lens. 2.) I have way to much time on my hands. At 04:49 PM 9/14/03 -0700, you wrote: Oh, I believe you. I've tested it grossly for myself. Somewhere in there is the true lifesize viewfinder image. But, certainly one choice must stick out as being the most accurate choice, no? Let's see. 58mm. Yeah, that will work. 'Some time later' someone said, Nope, 55mm is really better. More lifelike. We have all this expensive instrumentation to prove it! Yet later, it's Nope. Not quite. 50mm is definitely it. Change all of them to 50mm. Final answer? Yes, final answer. keith g J. C. O'Connell wrote: They used 58mm first, then 55, now 50 because it made the finder 1:1 like I said before. JCO To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is designed by the post office, even the sleaze. O'Rourke, P.J.
Re: My *ist D review is now complete
Robert Gonzalez schrieb: Thanks Boz, very interesting. Some of the Pentax images look slightly underexposed as compared to the Canon images. By the look of them, I'd say that the sensor is pretty much close to or exceeding the limits of the lenses. I.e., you can really see the difference with a very good lens as opposed to just a good lens. I do not agree. I measured that the sensor of the *ist D resolves 50 line pairs per millimeter. See my test shots at http://www.arnoldstark.de/bilder/030914_istD_testtafellinien.jpg. The area displayed is from the image center. Its size on the test chart is 7x10 centimeters while the whole test chart is 92x62 centimeters and fills the whole frame. 50 line pairs per millimeter is easily achieved with all lenses that we used ast f8 - if and when properly focussed. So if in the images of Bojidars review you notice some insufficient resolution that is probably due just to poor auto-focusing. As you can see in my manually focussed shots (best shots when focus bracketing) of the resolution test target, at f8, with the *ist D, the resolution is the same for the FA43/f1.9 Limited and the cheap zoom FA-J 18-35/f4-5.6 @18mm. Now I have measured that the 43 limited can resolve more than 80 line pairs per millimeter on Agfapan25. Thus the sensor and focusing accuracy are the limiting factors. The resolving power of the lenses is not: I would also like to point out, that with saturation, sharpness and contrast each set to +1, the images taken with the *ist D are more pleasing than those taken at 0 The sensor of the EOS 10 D probably resolves a little bit more than that of the *ist D - unfortunately we did not yet find the opportunity to do a resolution test with the 10D. However, the sensor of the 10D is a little bit smaller, too, so that the total number of line pairs being resolved should be on par with the *ist D. Arnold The 5 image continuous max keeps bugging me when they had originally said max. I wonder if its because you had noise reduction turned on? Cheers, rg Bojidar Dimitrov wrote: Hi, Reachable from the main KMP page: http://KMP.BDimitrov.de/ Cheers, Boz
Re: My *ist D review is now complete
Hello Robert, The 5 image continuous max keeps bugging me when they had originally said max. I wonder if its because you had noise reduction turned on? I had it turned off. I need to reread my text, maybe I wrote it wrong... Thanks for pointing it out, Boz
Re: Should I go Canon digital?
Do you own Canon lenses? If not you have to take into account the inevitable loss from switching systems. Others are in a better position than I am to compare the differences between the two cameras. At 02:44 AM 9/16/03 +0300, you wrote: I want a digital camera. I need it. For a couple of years I have been eagerly waiting for an affordable to me Pentax DSLR. Now we've got the ist D at $1699. I can't afford it, other than by taking some uncomfortable financial chances. Then the Canon 300D appeared at half the price of the istD. (And for the price of the istD I can get an necessary upgrade of my P166 and P133 computers on Win95 too...) Those of you who have been following specs etc. closer than me: Tell me why I should or should not buy the Canon. Tell me why I still should, or shouldn't, buy the istD, at double the price. Thanks, Lasse To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is designed by the post office, even the sleaze. O'Rourke, P.J.
Re: OT - Governmentspeak: was Talking of Taxes
Well you were talking about politics. At 08:26 PM 9/15/03 -0400, you wrote: RH! I was composing the freaking thing, not composting it! Although, I guess there's a joke in there somewhere, not too far below the surface, about where most of my posts belong, eh? vbg Shut up, Cotty. cheers, frank frank theriault wrote: My apologies. I got 1/2 way through composting the post belowsnip -- Honour - that virtue of the unjust! -Albert Camus To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is designed by the post office, even the sleaze. O'Rourke, P.J.
Re:OT - Governmentspeak: was Talking of Taxes
A 18th century aphorism states that No mans life or property is safe while the legislature is in session. This kind of thing has been going on for a long time... At 08:17 PM 9/15/03 -0400, you wrote: Krikees! They could have saved a lot of space and just said, The Commissioner can do or say whatever he wants, whenever he wants What amazes me (and my apologies for being so far OT) is how Orwell ended up being far more right than I suspect even he feared he'd be. Militaryspeak, Governmentspeak and Bureaucratspeak have become so pervasive that we don't even notice it anymore. Here in our province, we have for the last two terms had a government in power that has been particularly bad at governmentspeak. They amended the Landlord and Tenant Act, to take power from the tenants and give it to the landlords. They called the new legislation The Tenant's Rights Act (I kid you not). They want to make it hard for construction workers in a neighbouring province to work in Ontario, so they brought in the Fairness is a Two Way Street Act (yes, that's the actual name!). John Coyle wrote: Frank, you'll appreciate this. The Australian tax-man wanting it all his own way: Section 92(2) of the Sales Tax Assessment Bill: For the purposes of cancelling a tax benefit, the Commissioner may, in the assessment, determine any or all of the following: (a) that particular things are to be treated as not having happened; (b) that particular things are to be treated as having been done by a different person or to have happened at a different time; (c) that particular things that did not actually happen are to be treated as having happened and, where appropriate: (i) to have been done by a particular person; (ii) to have happened at a particular time. Fortunately, I don't think it ever got into the Act, which has now been superseded by GST law anyway, but it underlines the way bureaucreats thiink (if that's an apposite word!). John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:57 AM Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #984 Bingo, Tom!! You hit the nail on the head with that one. When you owe taxes on a transaction has nothing to do with when the transaction is actually complete. The IRS, (or in Canada, RevCan) live in their own little world, that has little bearing on reality. Of course, when you write the laws... What a great line, I'll have to remember that: You owe the taxes when the tax people say you owe the taxes. Never have truer words been posted on this list. vbg cheers, frank graywolf wrote: You own the taxes when the tax people say you owe the taxes. -- Honour - that virtue of the unjust! -Albert Camus -- Honour - that virtue of the unjust! -Albert Camus To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is designed by the post office, even the sleaze. O'Rourke, P.J.
Re: Flash questions
Bojidar Dimitrov a écrit: Hi, Thanks Boj, but what I could/cannot see is information on suitable brackets. Did/does Pentax make any? I am not sure about brackets, but with the help of the 5P cords and adapters, you can connect any number of F-type flashes together. You also mention in the site that the 360FTZ can do slave flash. Did you mean the 330FTZ or the 360FGZ? I don't think that the 330 FTZ can, but I do not own the 360 either, so I am not totally sure. The 330FTZ can't do sklave flash, only tje 360FGZ Michel
Re: Kodachrome 64 Prepaid discontinued?
I haven't gone looking for it for a while but it's available from BH Photo in NY. 36 exposure with mailer $11.49 24 exposure without $5.49 website: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/ At 09:53 PM 9/15/03 -0500, you wrote: I was under the impression that it was discontinued here in the US. If someone knows otherwise, I'd like to know of a source for it. -Ryan Brooks Chris Brogden wrote: I heard a few weeks ago that Kodak Canada is no longer offering Kodachrome 64 with processing included to retailers. The film itself is not being discontinued, and countries like the U.S. that don't allow processing-included film won't notice a difference, but Canadian buyers might want to stock up while you can. I have no idea how much Kodak will charge for processing it, but I assume it will be more than it was. chris To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is designed by the post office, even the sleaze. O'Rourke, P.J.
Re: *istD works with classic TTL flashes!
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 23:41, Alan Chan wrote: So I can use my old flash with the *istD but I'll have to tote an external meter to use my older lenses, strange priorities? :-( Damn, we should request Pentax to trade the old-TTL-flash capability for the aperture ring capability. Now is too late. But as I said before, Pentax prefer things to be not too perfect. :-) Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan No, I am happy with this choice. My oldest glass is the SMC-A 400/5.6, the rest is all FA. Except my 16mm Zenitar. Now I can use my Metz 40MZ-2, I am happy with that. -- Frits Wuthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No one picked up this one??? :-)
No, but I bought a Pentax aluminium trunk from them and also what was described as PENTAX 6X7 SMC CORRECTION LENS +1 +2 - N/R but looks a lot like a Refconverter-M or A in the pictures... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2950590261ssPageName =ADME:B:EOAB:AU:6 Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia
Re: Long zoom macro lens?
Vivitar series 1 70 210 f 3.5 62mm filter size. Vivitar Series 1 70-210 f 3.5 67mm filter size. Both very good lenses from personal experience, solidly built manual focus available in very good to excellent condition for less than $150 if you shop around. At 11:09 AM 9/16/03 +0530, you wrote: Hi all, I have been reading the posts for around 5-6 months now. I have a Pentax ME Super with M50/1.7 (and a PZ-1 also which I don't use though). I now realize that I would like to have a longish zoom for taking portraits of family, street photography, birds etc. Also, I have never done macro but would want that feature as well. IIRC, from the past posts some good long zoom lenses are: F 70-210 f/4-5.6 A 70-210 f/4 FA 80-320 f/4.5-5.6 Tamron 70-210 f/3.5 (manual focus?) Tokina ATX 100-300 f/4 (manual focus?) Vivitar Series I 90-180 f/4.5 Any other? . I am a hobbyist photographer, not even a serious amateur so build quality need not be very strong since I shoot 1-2 roll a month. . Manual Focus is fine since I will primarily use ME Super. . I prefer the reach of 300 mm, if possible. . Want to spend less than $150 (whis is Indian Rs. 7000). . Want macro (will I need/use it?). . Prefer not to be too heavy (less than 500g for sure) . I don't mind non-Pentax. . I had a Pentax 28-200 f/3.5-5.6 IF and wasn't extremely pleased with it so would want better optics. Is anybody selling anything that will meet my requirements? I saw Wendy is selling the A 70-210 f/4. Maybe that will be good since I bought my ME Super from her :-) Thanks so much!! Gaurav --- C++: Where friends have access to your private members. -- Gavin Russell Baker To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is designed by the post office, even the sleaze. O'Rourke, P.J.
My own little *ist D review
As reviews of the *ist D are flying in here is my own little contribution. I have been able to play with the *ist D pre-production model serial number 5645034 last weekend. I helped Boz in taking pictures for his comparison with the Canon 10D (see his review at http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/digital/review.html), and I did my own little experiments, especially some resolution test. See some of my test shots taken with the 43 Lmited and the FA-J 18-35/f4-5.6 at http://www.arnoldstark.de/bilder/030914_istD_testtafellinien.jpg. The area displayed is from the image center. Its size on the test chart is 10x7 centimeters while the whole test chart is 92x62 centimeters and fills the whole frame. The shots taken with the 43 Limitzed were taken at a distance of 188cm, i.e. the magnification was 1:42.7. The shots shown are the best ones from a series of manually (focus bracketing) as well as automatically focused shots (The AF of the *ist D sometimes snaps at different positions.). From the most narrow line pairs being resoved, I measured the resolution to be 50 line pairs per millimeter for both lenses at f8. This value is not bad but well below the resoving power of the 43 Limited (I have measured that the 43 limited can resolve more than 80 line pairs per millimeter on Agfapan25.). This is no surprise: To test the limits of the resoving power of this lens, one would need a sensor with 4 times as many pixels. As you can see, the images taken with the camera settings for saturation, sharpness and contrast each set to +1, are more pleasing than those taken at 0 Now, beyond resolution, this is what I like about the *ist D: - small yet rigid body that is easy to hold - easy to understand controls most of which are easy to operate, too - the menu is easy to understand, and selecting user functions is easy, too. - I manged to figure out all I needed and wanted WITHOUT manual. - relatively large and bright viewfinder with lots of information which can be well seen. - compatibilty with older flashes, A and F lenses. - instant image control (which is still new to me). - very good histogram and full information about picture when pressing the info button. - lots of user functions. - image quality sufficient for computer use and prints up to 20cm x 30 cm. - there still is more than enough reason for using my film cameras for big prints and slides. - the focusing noise actually does not disturb me. I can get used to: - having to change the settings for saturation, sharpness and contrast away from the standard settings - having to selecet the aperture from the body. - operating the 4-way/OK controller which needs a little practise as it is just a little bit too small. - plastic outer body on sturdy steel chassis. - battery consumption seems to be normal for a digital SLR but is of course way beyond what I know from film cameras... Things that are not so nice: - AF is fast but not always accurate on this particular pre-production model. - crippled k-mount: - battery compartment door is difficult to close and looks like it will have to be replaced at some time. On the topic of compatibilty with K- and M lenses I again confirm that in manual mode, a K or M lens (as well as a A/F/FA lens not in A position) would stop down, but unfortunately no metering is available. However, as one can judge the image right after taking it, one can take a test shot, judge it, adjust aperture and shutter speed and just take another (and yet another) picture -at least with subjects and lighting conditions that don't change.In AV mode, with K and M lenses (as well as with A/F/FA lenses not in A position), one gets operation wide-open, only. The aperture simply will not stop down to the value selected on the aperture ring, but it will stay wide open all the time, not only when metering but also when DOF previewing as well as during exposure. The metering is correct for wide open. To have the lens stop down to the selected value in AV mode, one needs to unlock the lens and turn it 15 degrees anti-clockwise. The aperture levers of camera and lens disengage so that the diaphragm stops down. In AV mode, one can thus have real aperture metering, even with exposure lock (With srew mount and manual aperture lenses one always gets this withiout having to unlock the lens). I have tried this several time, and it works well enough. However, one must take care that the lens stays in the right position. Others have suggested a solution for this problem. Will I eventually buy the *ist D? Yes! Unless Pentax soon presents a follow-up model with better k-mount compatibility (it would be sufficient not to switch the meter ON when DOF previewing in manual and/or AV mode) Arnold
Re: *istD works with classic TTL flashes!
I feel your pain. But let's not go there, and let others bask it the light from the *istD. At 12:03 AM 9/17/03 +1000, you wrote: On 16 Sep 2003 at 15:44, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: So *istD is the only DSLR on the market that is compatible with older TTL-only flashes! Nice touch :-) So I can use my old flash with the *istD but I'll have to tote an external meter to use my older lenses, strange priorities? :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is designed by the post office, even the sleaze. O'Rourke, P.J.
Re: And here's my little gallery...
http://www.milestone-media.com/main/main/photo_gallery.html I've always wondered how one take pictures of lightning. I see you have a good picture there (number 2). Did you keep the camera open and hoped for a flash? How many troes before you gote one? For about how long time did you keep the camera open? anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
Re: An outing with an MX.
Cesar Matamoros II wrote: I had a lot of problem seeing the exposure indications of the MX. Is this normal? That's odd. With LEDs you shouldn't have any problems with seeing them in the dark, though they might be a little less useful in bright sunshine (still, I've never had any problems with seeing the exposure readout in any of my MXs - neither in daylight nor in the dark). Regards, ukasz -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fotopolis.pl internetowy magazyn o fotografii
Re: AF 360 FGZ Flash Sigma EX 28-70 2.8
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Ryan wrote: - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:02 PM Subject: Re: AF 360 FGZ Flash Sigma EX 28-70 2.8 The FA interferes with the MZ-5n at *all lengths* depending on the distance of the subject, I did not expect this. Depending on the distance of the subject? How does that work? wild guess Because this is not an IF lens, and the barrel extends as you focus close. /wild guess I can check that at home. And it is true that, as you focus nearer, the barrel extends. Kostas (pity my football guesses weren't as good yesterday...)
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #1006
On 16/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I suspect that many of you expect this, but what the hell, I'm nothing if not predictable, right? vbg I'll drink to that. This is a wonderful camera, as Cotty describes in this auction. It's smaller than it looks in the photos - it looks to the unsuspecting subject like a little ps, when in reality it's a serious photographic instrument. The first Leica ever with ttl metering. Just in case you do some research that questions it's reliability (the swinging meter cell was a problem), the current thought is that the bad ones broke early. Pretty much all the ones still around are solid, and likely to continue going for a long time. Thish man noes wut heesh tawkin about, hic. And, that lens! By far the sharpest that I own. Even over at LUG, it has a great reputation. One of the best that Leica ever made, is how I've seen it described, and I believe it. You should bid on it now. Cotty needs to get to GFM!! LOL. Thanks Frank. If someone uses the BIN, I could even travel Club Class. BTW, Cotty, I do have the original hood (becoming more and more rare, btw, as the flexible rubber cracks over time), but I don't have a lens cap. They're so hard to find. Maybe you sell me yours, and take it out of the auction? (just kidding). I never knew that. There's probably some rich Leica nut out there who would buy it just for the cap and sell the rest on. Pentax owners wouldn't stoop so low... And, no, I'm not shilling for Cotty, but I think you owe me a beer for this one. I just can't remember where we are on this drink thing. I think about even. Should we both make it to GFM next year, we'll just have to drink our faces off, buyer be damned! vbg I'll bring a shilling with me for your troubles Frank ;-) And a couple of bottles of Wychwood's finest Thanks mate Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
PUG deadline near
The 20th is fast approaching Mutley snigger Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?
It's was late, I was tired what can I say. At 09:20 PM 9/16/03 -0400, you wrote: you'll have the equivalent of a f16 400mm with any if these converters Well, a 2X TC used with a K 200/4 would give you 400mm at ~f/8~ (but, of course, you would then usually stop down, if possible). Fred To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is designed by the post office, even the sleaze. O'Rourke, P.J.
RE: OT: FS: Pentax owner sells Leica CL
On 17/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Frank, You do not know how tempted I am, but I can barely exercise my collection at the moment. I will stay in the Pentax arena for the moment. Though, I love going to the Leica Gallery in NYC whenever I get the chance and have to think twice and long about not purchasing a Leica :-) Cesar Cesar, the leatherette is okay but just think of the possibilities. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: OT: leaving old Copal electronic shutter cocked: Allowed?
Hi! On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 07:49:36 -0400 Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My new-to-me Rikoh XR-2 has a vertical Copal CSS-E electronically controlled shutter. Will leaving this cocked weaken anything? I downloaded the manual from butkus.org, and no mention of any problem leaving the camera cocked. It does not even have a shutter cocked indicator. I understand from others that this is the same shutter used in the Nikon FM. -Lon Though my ME Super is still in repairs sigh I do remember that I always tried to cock the shutter only just before the shot. You see, my understanding is that the whole mechanism except shutter is still mechanical. So obviously then, it wouldn't be too good to leave it cocked for a long time. I don't think though that shutter itself cares about its cockiness grin. Boris
Re: Camera size and lens size.
'The binocular thing' depends on how the finder is designed (what percentage of the film format the finder covers and with what magnification it displays its image to the eye). The MX has the highest magnification (0,97x) of all Pentax SLRs (AFAIK) so even though the 50 is more 'wide angle' than the 55, the MX finder makes a particular detail appear the same size than with the 55 on the Spotmatic (with its lower finder magnification). Higher finder magnification is not necessarily 'better' IMO. The MX's 0,97x together with its 95% coverage make the finder image almost too large. I find it easier to overlook and assess a finder image if it is a little bit smaller. Sven Zitat von Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yup. 55mm on the KX and 50mm on the MX. Both do the binocular thing. This can be a help at times. Peter Alling wrote: The viewfinder image has a bit to do with this as well. I can't say for sure why other manufactures changed from 55mm to 50mm lenses as standard normal but heres an exercise that owners of both a MX and a SP-F can do. (I think this should also work with an esII, KM, KX K1000 and possibly others)). Mount a 55mm on the Spotty, and a 50mm on the MX, I used the SMCT f1.8 and SMCP-M f1.7. Focus both on a target then hold each as if for a vertical shot and look through both finders at the same time. You will notice that the images blend together as if you were using a pair of binoculars. If you reverse the lens combination, a 50 on the Spotty and a 55 on the MX this no longer works, (and it was giving me a headache). This of course shows 1.) Why Pentax decided to change from 55 to 50 as their standard normal lens. 2.) I have way to much time on my hands. At 04:49 PM 9/14/03 -0700, you wrote: Oh, I believe you. I've tested it grossly for myself. Somewhere in there is the true lifesize viewfinder image. But, certainly one choice must stick out as being the most accurate choice, no? Let's see. 58mm. Yeah, that will work. 'Some time later' someone said, Nope, 55mm is really better. More lifelike. We have all this expensive instrumentation to prove it! Yet later, it's Nope. Not quite. 50mm is definitely it. Change all of them to 50mm. Final answer? Yes, final answer. keith g J. C. O'Connell wrote: They used 58mm first, then 55, now 50 because it made the finder 1:1 like I said before. JCO To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is designed by the post office, even the sleaze. O'Rourke, P.J.
Re: OT: Politics and Art-was: Leni Reifenstahl: A giant passes away
It is certainly a powerful record, and I appreciate it as much as anybody, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking it's an inser's view. If she was an insider then she must take her share of the responsibility for events. She claimed she was not an insider. Her pictures and movies are not in any way fly-on-the-wall stuff; they are all rehearsed and cannot possibly be treated as documentary in any modern sense of the word, so I don't see what glimpse we are getting of this time. Where is the insight in her photographs films? They are extremely shallow. She saw only the surface of things. Look at what she has influenced: advertisements for Calvin Klein; James Bond films; Annie Leibovitz's celebrity portraits. Flashy, exciting, emotive, but trivial with no depth. She was ahead of her time. But then I've always tended to think that art can stand and be judged independent of the artist. Good thing, since many famous painters have been real assholes in real life. In my opinion you can gain more from the art by knowing about the artist's life. Knowing that Picasso was Spanish certainly adds to the power of 'Guernica', for instance. -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I admit I tend not to like Picasso's work because he treated women so lousily -- he really did. So I can't say I am totally indifferent to an artist's real life track record. Actually, I am not that fond of cubism, but Picasso's extreme sexism has tended to influence my attitude toward him. For me, his Spanishness is very secondary. ;-) I feel it was an insider's look emotionally, which was the point I made before. It conveys some of the nationalism and insanity that frankly is almost impossible to get otherwise. I said this before. I've never understood how a funny little man like Hitler was able to sway a nation. How Germany (and many, many Germans, I am not discounting the ones who did not go along with him, but many, many did) could get swept up into his insanity. From another country, from later in history, it can be almost incompressible. Until one sees something like Triumph of the Will. Watching it (many long years ago) was the first time I could *see* some of the charisma Hitler had, and could come close to understanding (not in the head, in the gut), how it could happen. Watching the pageantry, watching the march, march of led astray nationalism -- I could begin to see how it was not so impossible. So *that* is the insider's glimpse. Sure it was all orchestrated, but that is exactly the point. The same thing, those very same propaganda approaches, were orchestrated for the German people -- orchestrated exactly to sweep them up in the fervor. So the inside thing I was referring to is the emotional insanity that went on. In that I think Leni did do her job too well. You can get it by watching the film. You can get the *thing* they thought they had. The Reich that would last a thousand years (for was it longer)? She, through her powerful visualization, through her masterful deliberate propaganda, caught the propaganda going on at the time, caught the feeling of indomitable spirit that Hitler and those soldiers thought they had. She caught the triumph of the will. Now that is art, that she could capture something so basically nutty and incomprehensible. And by showing the rest of us the insanity -- the film by its very powerfulness can explain some of that the insanity as well as it could ever be explained. As well as it can ever be explained. I do not think that is without value. In fact, I think it has a great deal of value. Unless we understand history we are doomed to repeat it. I do not think it couldn't happen again, given the right circumstances. Given the same sort of propaganda, given an insane leader, given nationalism deliberately led astray -- given deliberate attempts to led it astray. The German people prior WWII are no different from people anywhere in any country or any time. Oh, well, I've made my points about as well as I can. You either get what I am saying or not. I remain convinced she captured something valuable, and did it extremely well. And I am not convinced that any one else, any other film maker, could have done the same thing nearly as well. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?
Fred wrote: ...you'll have the equivalent of a f16 400mm with any if these converters Well, a 2X TC used with a K 200/4 would give you 400mm at ~f/8~ (but, of course, you would then usually stop down, if possible). Fred That's one of the real problems with TCs, isn't it. If you need the sharpness of your prime lens, which is usually best at least 2 stops from full open, that will not be averted by the use of a TC, but the 2X or 3X exposure increase forces you into a very dark, hard to focus viewfinder situation. If you're really lucky to possess a lens that performs well at close to maximum aperture, make a note of that fact! Okay to use with TC! keith whaley
istD with old lenses and/or extension tubes
Hi all, I just realised that the extension tubes won't work with the ist D, because they do not have the A contacts. Any lens connected through the extension tube will not work correctly on the istD, because it will look like an M or K lens to the body. Then I read the trick of using old M or K lenses on the istD by rotating the lens a little or eliminating the aperture coupler. This makes the lens useless on analog camera's. However, one could by a cheap short extension tube get rid of the coupler in it and use it with a lens. You will lose infinity focus though but your lens will be intact. Frank
Re: My own little *ist D review
thanks. i had a look at the center where you would look to see the highest resolution and you can see some JPEG compression artifacts, so that is why i asked. Herb - Original Message - From: Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:52 AM Subject: Re: My own little *ist D review Actually, the image at http://www.arnoldstark.de/bilder/030914_istD_testtafellinien.jpg. is not compressed but stored at the maximum size available in JPEG. I believe that in this case there are no JPEG artifacts. However, I can send a portion off the TIFF original later
Yet another *istD report ;-)
Hi, the English version of our *istD report is ready: http://www.digitalfotonetz.de/istD-Report.html The German version can be found here: http://www.digitalfotonetz.de/istD-Bericht.html Cheers, Heiko
Re: Help! Need email recommendation
Exactly what you say about NetCOMM is what keeps me using my version (4.79 for the Mac), altho' I'm aware that it's a dead end product. It's official that it will not be supported with upgrades or bug fixes any more. One of the Mozilla products (http://www.mozilla.org/) will take up the slack, however, and those folks are adamant about the quality of the product... so maybe we won't really be left out in the cold after all! keith whaley Ann Sanfedele wrote: Chris Brogden wrote: Now that my university email account is expiring, I'm going to need to get a different address through another provider. I'm currently using PINE in a Unix window, and I love it. I love how I have to use the keyboard for everything, and how easy it is to move among hundreds of messages. Can anyone recommend a similar program that works under Windows 98SE? Failing that, which net-based email program is easiest for handling the hundreds of messages that the PDML can generate each day? Happy for any and all opinions and help, chris I have Windoze 98 and use Netscape communicator and very pleased having come to it directly from PINE myself (but I still miss old pine).. I have a pop server connection and have NEtscape set to download my mail when I go online and leave nothing on the server - message filters can be set up - I have all the PDML stuff in one folder that I can easily sort by date and subject and sender, etc I have preferences set to read and write mail in plain text. The index is nice too. annsan
Re: istD with old lenses and/or extension tubes
Frank Wajer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I just realised that the extension tubes won't work with the ist D, because they do not have the A contacts. Any lens connected through the extension tube will not work correctly on the istD, because it will look like an M or K lens to the body. If you use the standard Pentax extension tubes (not the auto-diaphragm type) the lens will still work fine, though you'll be doing stop-down metering. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: OT: FS: Pentax owner sells Leica CL
On 16/9/03, pentax-discuss-d- [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Thish man noes wut heesh tawkin about, hic. And, that lens! By far the sharpest that I own. Even over at LUG, it has a great reputation. One of the best that Leica ever made, is how I've seen it described, and I believe it. You should bid on it now. Cotty needs to get to GFM!! I can atest to that.I saw some of Franks shots from down east and they were just great.Never have seen 35mm proofs that sharp. Dave
RE: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of *ist D)
Srgb I think. Some of the bigger ones over 1Mb are straight from the camera (2, 44, 47 and 49 at least - because the filenames are still in caps). I don't know how to view the exif data, so I can't check at the moment. Most of the smaller filesizes are where I rotated the image and resaved - Paint Shop Pro obviously compressed them a bit more. Unfortunately all the 1600 and 3200 shots were TIFFs originally I think, and these were too big for my webspace. There may be one or two at 1600 which are original jpgs, but as I say I cant tell as I havent worked out how to read the exif stuff yet. That's one of my next jobs! Any idvice? Is the Pentax software that came with the camera the best way? Should I be able to do it in PSP? -Original Message- From: Harold Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 September 2003 14:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of *ist D) Rob wrote:- I now have thumbnails which might help. Have my tripod with me today, so will take some with better DOF/stability so will be able to better judge the sharpness. Hi Rob, Any chance of posting an image which contains the EXIF information? The images you have posted on the website are not the original files as downloaded from the camera, I am just interested to see what 'colour-space' setting you have set on your camera. Cheers - Harry -- Harold Owen
Re: My own little *ist D review
No. Arnold This would really be a very drastic way to have the *ist D meter with K and M lenses at alle apertures. However, it would only work in Av mode. In manual mode the meter would still be OFF. And you would have to use your crippled lenses with real aperture metering, only, on your film bodies, too. Can you explain exactly why it would not work in manual mode? Surely you set the camera to a certain shutter speed via the main dial, and the lens to the aperture, and the scale inside the viewfinder shows you whether you are underexposing, right on, or over-exposing, no? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of *ist D)
Hi! I use IrfanView (www.irfanview.com) as my standard viewer. It is freeware and it is excellent program, it truly is. Among other things it can show EXIF info of JPG file. Boris
Re: And here's my little gallery...
At 10:27 AM +0200 9/17/03, Anders Hultman wrote: http://www.milestone-media.com/main/main/photo_gallery.html I've always wondered how one take pictures of lightning. I see you have a good picture there (number 2). Did you keep the camera open and hoped for a flash? That is about it. How many troes before you gote one? For about how long time did you keep the camera open? It helps to live in an area where there are lot of violent thunderstorms. Southern Ontario fits that bill. You also want an area with a lot of open sky and a decent horizon. I find a wide angle lens is best. It helps if you can also shoot from a sheltered spot, so your equipment does not get drenched. I took that shot from the 9th floor balcony of an apartment building. A balcony above mine provided shelter. Even so, it took many exposures before I got that shot. I think the exposure was around 30 seconds. -- Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of*ist D)
Is there a product which lets you browse this stuff? I have just tried this and it seems OK, but it's a pain to have to open each image one by one then bring up information, then go into EXIF information. What would be ideal would be if PSP indicated the presence of EXIF data in the browse window and let you right click the thumbnail and view EXIF without opening the file. Is there a product like that? You are right, any of the images I resaved lost their EXIF data - pain! There are still some there though, and I will sort the thing out properly when I get a chance. -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 September 2003 15:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of*ist D) Hi! I use IrfanView (www.irfanview.com) as my standard viewer. It is freeware and it is excellent program, it truly is. Among other things it can show EXIF info of JPG file. Boris
Re: istD with old lenses and/or extension tubes
Yes they do, they even autofocus! S /Paul Herb Chong wrote: don't the Kenko tubes for Pentax have the right contacts? Herb _ Try MSN Messenger 6.0 with integrated webcam functionality! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_webcam
RE: An outing with an MX.
Hi folks, About César's comment: I had a lot of problem seeing the exposure indications of the MX. Gee, maybe he means the shutter speed and aperture indications, huh? - THaller
RE: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of*ist D)
Have found the browser in irfanview which helps. Have found images 63,64 at 1600 ISO also still have the EXIF. Are there any that you specifically want it for? -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham Sent: 17 September 2003 15:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of*ist D) Is there a product which lets you browse this stuff? I have just tried this and it seems OK, but it's a pain to have to open each image one by one then bring up information, then go into EXIF information. What would be ideal would be if PSP indicated the presence of EXIF data in the browse window and let you right click the thumbnail and view EXIF without opening the file. Is there a product like that? You are right, any of the images I resaved lost their EXIF data - pain! There are still some there though, and I will sort the thing out properly when I get a chance. -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 September 2003 15:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of*ist D) Hi! I use IrfanView (www.irfanview.com) as my standard viewer. It is freeware and it is excellent program, it truly is. Among other things it can show EXIF info of JPG file. Boris
Re: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of*ist D)
Hi! On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:47:16 +0100 Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a product which lets you browse this stuff? I have just tried this and it seems OK, but it's a pain to have to open each image one by one then bring up information, then go into EXIF information. What would be ideal would be if PSP indicated the presence of EXIF data in the browse window and let you right click the thumbnail and view EXIF without opening the file. Is there a product like that? I am not aware of such a program because I never faced a problem you face. But it most probably exists. This is what came out of Google EXIF browser: http://www.software-factory.ch/software/exifbrowser/exifbrowser_software_en.htm http://home.pacbell.net/michal_k/ Boris
Re: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of*ist D)
you need PSP 8 to save the info after manipulation. i use Ulead PhotoExplorer 8 to do this work. i am sure there are freeware ones too. Herb - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of*ist D) You are right, any of the images I resaved lost their EXIF data - pain! There are still some there though, and I will sort the thing out properly when I get a chance.
Re: istD with old lenses and/or extension tubes
BH doesn't seem to sell the AF ones. are you sure? Herb - Original Message - From: Paul Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:58 AM Subject: Re: istD with old lenses and/or extension tubes Yes they do, they even autofocus! S /Paul
RE: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of*ist D)
Typical - I got version 7!! -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 September 2003 16:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of*ist D) you need PSP 8 to save the info after manipulation. i use Ulead PhotoExplorer 8 to do this work. i am sure there are freeware ones too. Herb - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of*ist D) You are right, any of the images I resaved lost their EXIF data - pain! There are still some there though, and I will sort the thing out properly when I get a chance.
RE: An outing with an MX.
Never in dim light, but also (some) trouble in bright light. Hans B. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 17 september 2003 12:50 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: An outing with an MX. You say this was in the evening. In dim lighting conditions, you should have no trouble seeing an MX's LEDs. At least, in my experience (I own three of 'em). In bright light, yup, the LEDS can look a little dim. Bright light is where needles (KX, etc) shine. Anyone else have problems with MX LEDs in dim light? Cesar Matamoros II wrote, in part: I went out to a jazz festival, small by most standards since it is held here, and was carrying my MZ-S and MX. The former had the color slide film with the MX loaded with 400 b/w print film. I had a lot of problem seeing the exposure indications of the MX. Is this normal?
RE: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price?
But if you want to use the 200mm with this converter, it's usually for long distance shots, isn't it (that's at least what I should do). So there is a lot of focussing at infinity. That should be okay. But its possibly harder to get a great composition. That should be the price one pays. Hans b. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 17 september 2003 13:57 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: Tele-converter, Pentax, Pentax or Vivitar, at wich price? Fred wrote: ...you'll have the equivalent of a f16 400mm with any if these converters Well, a 2X TC used with a K 200/4 would give you 400mm at ~f/8~ (but, of course, you would then usually stop down, if possible). Fred That's one of the real problems with TCs, isn't it. If you need the sharpness of your prime lens, which is usually best at least 2 stops from full open, that will not be averted by the use of a TC, but the 2X or 3X exposure increase forces you into a very dark, hard to focus viewfinder situation. If you're really lucky to possess a lens that performs well at close to maximum aperture, make a note of that fact! Okay to use with TC! keith whaley
Re[4]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of *ist D)
Rob wrote:- Srgb I think. Some of the bigger ones over 1Mb are straight from the camera (2, 44, 47 and 49 at least - because the filenames are still in caps). Thanks for the info. I have downloaded a couple of the larger files (the one of the pretty little girl) which has all the EXIF information attached. As someone else mentioned the EXIF information can be viewed in IrfanView and also Exifer. IrfanView is available from:- http://www.irfanview.com/ Exifer is available from:- http://www.exifer.friedemann.info/ For purely checking just EXIF information I prefer to use Exifer although IrfanView is a more versatile program. Harry -- Harold Owen
Re: Pairs
- Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't say I have. Am I missing something? keith No you don't... :-) It's just according to one particular writer that they be mentioned in pairs... Cheers Jostein Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Pairs I have also seen a pair of scissors, and a pair of glasses... g keith And dingo's kindneys? (g,d, r) Jostein
Re: leaving old Copal electronic shutter cocked: Allowed?
- Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: OT: leaving old Copal electronic shutter cocked: Allowed? My new-to-me Rikoh XR-2 has a vertical Copal CSS-E electronically controlled shutter. Will leaving this cocked weaken anything? I downloaded the manual from butkus.org, and no mention of any problem leaving the camera cocked. It does not even have a shutter cocked indicator. I understand from others that this is the same shutter used in the Nikon FM. It shouldn't, since the shutter is electronic. It may be the same shutter as the FE, the FM was a mechanical shutter. William Robb
Re: OT: leaving old Copal electronic shutter cocked: Allowed?
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: OT: leaving old Copal electronic shutter cocked: Allowed? Though my ME Super is still in repairs sigh I do remember that I always tried to cock the shutter only just before the shot. You see, my understanding is that the whole mechanism except shutter is still mechanical. So obviously then, it wouldn't be too good to leave it cocked for a long time. I don't think though that shutter itself cares about its cockiness grin. The parts of the mechanism that cares are the shutter springs. Electronic shutters don't have them. William Robb
Re: UK Street Price of *ist D
It doesn't bother me, but it could be seen as almost an insult to Pentax that they are insignificant compared to Nikon, and it certainly makes it less easy to find for people visiting your homepage. Exactly! Less easy to find, so when you _do_ find it, oh much rejoicing and Pimms all round. Naaah, I know you are right - Fred's been harping on about this for ages. Lets' go for it. Holga on the home page and Nikon/Pentax are both 'other brands'. Cheers Peter
Re: leaving old Copal electronic shutter cocked: Allowed?
Hmmm... this camera does have one mechanical setting: 1/90th second, works without batteries. Does that change the equation? It also works in Bulb without batteries. -Lon William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: OT: leaving old Copal electronic shutter cocked: Allowed? My new-to-me Rikoh XR-2 has a vertical Copal CSS-E electronically controlled shutter. Will leaving this cocked weaken anything? I downloaded the manual from butkus.org, and no mention of any problem leaving the camera cocked. It does not even have a shutter cocked indicator. I understand from others that this is the same shutter used in the Nikon FM. It shouldn't, since the shutter is electronic. It may be the same shutter as the FE, the FM was a mechanical shutter. William Robb
Re: istD with old lenses and/or extension tubes
Yes, but only the individual tubes, the 25mm and I think 12mm. The set of three tubes are not AF. Here's the link to the 25mm af tube... http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=71521is=REG /Paul From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: istD with old lenses and/or extension tubes Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 11:37:42 -0400 BH doesn't seem to sell the AF ones. are you sure? Herb - Original Message - From: Paul Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:58 AM Subject: Re: istD with old lenses and/or extension tubes Yes they do, they even autofocus! S /Paul _ Need more e-mail storage? Get 10MB with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
Re: OT: leaving old Copal electronic shutter cocked: Allowed?
William Robb a crit: - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: OT: leaving old Copal electronic shutter cocked: Allowed? The parts of the mechanism that cares are the shutter springs. Electronic shutters don't have them. 1- The Pentax M serie haven Seiko MFC-xx shutter, not Copal 2- theses shutters aren electronic controlled, but mechanical powered, they haven shutter spring. 3- with the winder, the shutter remain coked after the exposure Michel
Re: Pairs
Well pants developed from legging which came in pairs. There are two lenses in a pair of glasses as opposed to one in a glass (monocular). Kidneys do come in pairs. and scissors are basically two knifes on a hinge. However as far as I know line pairs consist of two lines with a space in the middle, when the space disappears you have hit the limit of resolution. grin Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't say I have. Am I missing something? keith No you don't... :-) It's just according to one particular writer that they be mentioned in pairs... Cheers Jostein Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Pairs I have also seen a pair of scissors, and a pair of glasses... g keith And dingo's kindneys? (g,d, r) Jostein -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
Re: istD with old lenses and/or extension tubes
However, one could by a cheap short extension tube get rid of the coupler in it and use it with a lens. You will lose infinity focus though but your lens will be intact. Few days back, Mark had posted a review of *istD. In that review author expressed similar solution. Thanks Ramesh --- Frank Wajer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I just realised that the extension tubes won't work with the ist D, because they do not have the A contacts. Any lens connected through the extension tube will not work correctly on the istD, because it will look like an M or K lens to the body. Then I read the trick of using old M or K lenses on the istD by rotating the lens a little or eliminating the aperture coupler. This makes the lens useless on analog camera's. However, one could by a cheap short extension tube get rid of the coupler in it and use it with a lens. You will lose infinity focus though but your lens will be intact. Frank __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Leni Reifenstahl: A giant passes away
Ya! Kill all the Germans they knew what was going on. Kill all the Japs they knew what was going on. Kill all the Italians they knew what was going on. Kill all the Russians they knew what was going on. Kill all the Muslims they know what is going on. Kill everyone they know what is going on. And so on, and so on ... Maybe you would have had the courage to stand up and be shot for treason by the monsters, but I doubt it. I also find it funny but not amusing that the Jews figure somehow it is everybody else in the world's fault that they didn't have the courage to fight back while they were being killed by the millions. Everybody else should have to pay for the shame that they won't even admit to them selves. There has been trillions of atrocities committed through out history. All of us should do what we can to see that more are not committed. But why blame everyone who did not have the courage to stand up to the monsters in the past for our lack of courage to stand up to them in the present? Why don't we leave the poor women to rest in peace. Like all apathetic people she probably felt that if she didn't notice it would go away. I mean she is dead already. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
Re[4]: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of*ist D)
Rob wrote:- 63,64 at 1600 ISO also still have the EXIF. Rob, I have downloaded a number of your images and see that images IMGP0047, IMGP0049, IMGP0063 and IMGP0064 all have EXIF information attached to them. Not sure about the rest as I only downloaded the larger files. I used Picture Window Pro 3.5 to adjust curves and the images look excellent, I was impressed with image no IMGP0077 taken at iso3200 after adjusting curves and using Photo Brush 2.1 to remove noise using the 'auto clean skin' feature of that program the image is very good. Harry -- Harold Owen
Re: OT: Anyone travelling USA - UK in the near future?
On 17/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I want to buy an article in the USA. Anyone willing to transport it to the UK? Very lightweight, packs quite small. Hey, those Trailer Trash blow-up dolls do pack quite flat, can I get one as well? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: istD with old lenses and/or extension tubes
OK, i have been planning to get a set. now i know i have to get one at a time. Herb - Original Message - From: Paul Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:34 PM Subject: Re: istD with old lenses and/or extension tubes Yes, but only the individual tubes, the 25mm and I think 12mm. The set of three tubes are not AF. Here's the link to the 25mm af tube... http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=71521is=REG /Paul
Re: First Pano Try
At 09:18 AM 9/16/2003 -0400, Lon Williamson wrote: HI Lon - There's obviously a lot more to doing these than I've contemplated - and it looks like I did just about everything wrong this time... In regards to your questions - 1) What focal length? I've heard it said that going below 50mm is not advisable in 35mm because of distortion at the edges. I was shooting between 20 and 24 with the FA 20-35 zoom. There was lots of distortion of near objects, not much distortion of distant objects. One of the seams fell into just empty water, so the distortion there is not apparent at all. Another fell on the rocks and the distortion was very apparent there - the same rock looked very different in the different frames. There I just picked which image to use and dealt with it when blending the two exposures. 2) Did you shoot vertically or horizontally? Here again, advise I've read says to shoot vertically (counterintuitive at first, til you think about it) That does make sense now that I think about it - but I shot horizontally. 3) How much overlap from frame to frame? A third? A quarter? I scanned the right side of the finder till I found a distinctive object, then just unlocked the base of the ball head and moved it till it was on the left side of the frame. The overlap was not much - maybe 10 - 20%. 4) Did you worry about the true center of the lens? No, not at all. Never even thought about it. BTW - what is the 'true center?' of a lens? =:-0 5) Did you use a leveling tripod head? How fussy were you about leveling? I _was_ fussy about leveling - I put a level into the camera hotshoe and worked my way up from the small circular level on the tripod, to the two horizontal levels the tripod head, to the level on the camera itself. I also checked that as I rotated the camera, the horizon did not shift up or down in the frame. Probably because of lens distortions, I had to shoot with the film plane straight up and down - even with the tripod fairly close to the water (I was 10 to 15 feet out in the river) the horizon tended to be more vertically centered than I wanted. 6) Did you use only tools available in Photoshop as shipped to do your stitching? Photoshop was it - I created a large blank image big enough to hold all three exposures, and then just added each one as a layer on top of the one before, making the new layer temporarily transparent to be able to line it up. Then I dropped the new layer onto the old and use the eraser tool at varying levels of transparency to blend the two. After that I cleaned up with the clone stamp and used the dodge and burn tools to correct for obvious differences in how the water reflected back light in the different frames. the contest requires that all photos be mounted onto black foam core with no borders. I managed to do that yesterday without ruining the print - which required a lot of kludging since this thing is much longer than my little mat cutter... - MCC - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI - Photography: http://www.markcassino.com
Re: OT: Politics and Art-was: Leni Reifenstahl: A giant passes away
Nice analysis, Marnie. The sad part is that proaganda does not need to be done all that well to work. Yes, that surely is the sad part, the human mind will slip easily into insanity if everyone around them is doing it too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is certainly a powerful record, and I appreciate it as much as anybody, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking it's an inser's view. If she was an insider then she must take her share of the responsibility for events. She claimed she was not an insider. Her pictures and movies are not in any way fly-on-the-wall stuff; they are all rehearsed and cannot possibly be treated as documentary in any modern sense of the word, so I don't see what glimpse we are getting of this time. Where is the insight in her photographs films? They are extremely shallow. She saw only the surface of things. Look at what she has influenced: advertisements for Calvin Klein; James Bond films; Annie Leibovitz's celebrity portraits. Flashy, exciting, emotive, but trivial with no depth. She was ahead of her time. But then I've always tended to think that art can stand and be judged independent of the artist. Good thing, since many famous painters have been real assholes in real life. In my opinion you can gain more from the art by knowing about the artist's life. Knowing that Picasso was Spanish certainly adds to the power of 'Guernica', for instance. -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I admit I tend not to like Picasso's work because he treated women so lousily -- he really did. So I can't say I am totally indifferent to an artist's real life track record. Actually, I am not that fond of cubism, but Picasso's extreme sexism has tended to influence my attitude toward him. For me, his Spanishness is very secondary. ;-) I feel it was an insider's look emotionally, which was the point I made before. It conveys some of the nationalism and insanity that frankly is almost impossible to get otherwise. I said this before. I've never understood how a funny little man like Hitler was able to sway a nation. How Germany (and many, many Germans, I am not discounting the ones who did not go along with him, but many, many did) could get swept up into his insanity. From another country, from later in history, it can be almost incompressible. Until one sees something like Triumph of the Will. Watching it (many long years ago) was the first time I could *see* some of the charisma Hitler had, and could come close to understanding (not in the head, in the gut), how it could happen. Watching the pageantry, watching the march, march of led astray nationalism -- I could begin to see how it was not so impossible. So *that* is the insider's glimpse. Sure it was all orchestrated, but that is exactly the point. The same thing, those very same propaganda approaches, were orchestrated for the German people -- orchestrated exactly to sweep them up in the fervor. So the inside thing I was referring to is the emotional insanity that went on. In that I think Leni did do her job too well. You can get it by watching the film. You can get the *thing* they thought they had. The Reich that would last a thousand years (for was it longer)? She, through her powerful visualization, through her masterful deliberate propaganda, caught the propaganda going on at the time, caught the feeling of indomitable spirit that Hitler and those soldiers thought they had. She caught the triumph of the will. Now that is art, that she could capture something so basically nutty and incomprehensible. And by showing the rest of us the insanity -- the film by its very powerfulness can explain some of that the insanity as well as it could ever be explained. As well as it can ever be explained. I do not think that is without value. In fact, I think it has a great deal of value. Unless we understand history we are doomed to repeat it. I do not think it couldn't happen again, given the right circumstances. Given the same sort of propaganda, given an insane leader, given nationalism deliberately led astray -- given deliberate attempts to led it astray. The German people prior WWII are no different from people anywhere in any country or any time. Oh, well, I've made my points about as well as I can. You either get what I am saying or not. I remain convinced she captured something valuable, and did it extremely well. And I am not convinced that any one else, any other film maker, could have done the same thing nearly as well. Marnie aka Doe -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
Re: My own little *ist D review
This would really be a very drastic way to have the *ist D meter with K and M lenses at alle apertures. However, it would only work in Av mode. In manual mode the meter would still be OFF. And you would have to use your crippled lenses with real aperture metering, only, on your film bodies, too. Can you explain exactly why it would not work in manual mode? Surely you set the camera to a certain shutter speed via the main dial, and the lens to the aperture, and the scale inside the viewfinder shows you whether you are underexposing, right on, or over-exposing, no? No. Arnold No??? Why not? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: UK Street Price of *ist D
On 17/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Lets' go for it. Holga on the home page and Nikon/Pentax are both 'other brands'. Chinon, surely. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
RE: Pairs
Some pairs are of objects that can also stand alone: Pair of hard boiled eggs. Pair of dancers. Pair of kidneys. Pair of salt pepper shakers. Pair of hunters. Some pairs are of objects that have no meaning alone: Pair of scissors. (Ever heard of one scissor?) Pair of pants. (Ever heard of one pant?) Pair of pliers. (Hand me the plier?) Whee!!! Regards, Bob -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pairs - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't say I have. Am I missing something? keith No you don't... :-) It's just according to one particular writer that they be mentioned in pairs... Cheers Jostein Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Pairs I have also seen a pair of scissors, and a pair of glasses... g keith And dingo's kindneys? (g,d, r) Jostein
Re: FA* Lenses
The * is the thing. Originally (the M300/4.0) the * meant that the lens contained exotic glass (or non-glass) elements. Now it just seems to mean it is the top of the line, as many of the special things it meant, like aspheric elements, are now even in cheap lens. On the other hand, some of the things folks get excited about now-a-days, like internal focusing, make the new lens less sharp than the old lens. Internal focusing however does take a lot of the load off the focusing motor for faster focusing. Alan Chan wrote: o) They are faster than non-FA* lenses. Not aware of. FA*85/1.4 is no faster than A*85/1.4. FA*300/4.5 is the same as F*300/4.5, and slower than any M/A 300/4. o) They are sharp (at least, the ones I own are). FA*24/2 is not particular sharp, and my 2 samples perform the same. FA*85/1.4 is great at close distance (1-3m), but sucks at near infinity or with extension tubes. o) Their build quality is generally very solid. Basically yes, except the silly window frame which is actually worse than regular FA lenses. My best 35mm hand-held shots have been with my FA* 85mm F1.4 lens. It is a _wonderful_ indoor portrait/action lens. Images shot wide-open are very smooth and have a certain glow to them that I really like. That said, I haven't had a chance to compare this lens to, say, the 85mm F1.8 lens. Ironically, I have never been able to obtain very sharp result when handholding the FA*85/1.4. I guess it has to do with the balance. No such problem with the FA77/1.8. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
Tripods usage with DSLR
*istD or any equivalent DSLR seems to reproduce decent outputs at higher ISO(say 400+) speeds. In outdoor photography, for an amature photographer, if the focal length of the lens is less than 135mm, I think tripod may not be a real necessicity. This comes as big relief for me because I need not have to carry my 3KG tripod for hiking. I agree tripod is needed for long teles like 300mm/2.8 because their weight makes it difficult to do handheld photography. I would like hear other opinion on this. Thanks Ramesh __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: Star lenses (was: Re: Reputable dealer?)
You ought to go over to rec.photo.equipment.large-format, Rob. There has been a lot of posts over the last few year about the use of APO in lens advertising. Apparently in advertising speak it does not necessarily mean apochromatic. However it does seem to universally mean, It costs more. Sort of like the old term Premium Beer. Rob Studdert wrote: On 16 Sep 2003 at 14:36, Alan Chan wrote: I read somewhere that the Star in the Pentax lenses stands for APO, so it should apply to the apochromatic lenses. But I may be wrong... I don't know the exact techanical differences, but Pentax Nikkor use ED, while Sigma use APO. The lens designation ED is not a definitive indication of lens performance it only indicates that the lens design utilizes glass with extraordinary dispersion characteristics. The lens designation APO is an indication of measured optical behaviour. By definition an APO labelled lens will provide coincident focus on a plane perpendicular to the lens axis at at least three frequencies in the visible spectra. Unfortunately few APO labelled lenses actually achieve this and the lens designation APO is no guarantee that the lens may not have other significant optical aberrations. As far as I am aware Pentax lenses with * designations mean nothing specific apart from being an indication that they offer premium performance for their class. So you could argue that like ED and APO, ASPH lens designations it usually purely a marketing tool and should be considered in context. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
Re: OT: leaving old Copal electronic shutter cocked: Allowed?
Hi! I stand corrected. Boris ===8==Original message text=== MCG William Robb a écrit: - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: OT: leaving old Copal electronic shutter cocked: Allowed? MCG The parts of the mechanism that cares are the shutter springs. Electronic shutters don't have them. MCG 1- The Pentax M serie haven Seiko MFC-xx shutter, not Copal MCG 2- theses shutters aren electronic controlled, but mechanical powered, MCG they haven shutter spring. MCG 3- with the winder, the shutter remain coked after the exposure MCG Michel ===8===End of original message text===
Re: First Pano Try
- Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: Re: First Pano Try I was shooting between 20 and 24 with the FA 20-35 zoom. There was lots of distortion of near objects, not much distortion of distant objects. One of the seams fell into just empty water, so the distortion there is not apparent at all. Another fell on the rocks and the distortion was very apparent there - the same rock looked very different in the different frames. There I just picked which image to use and dealt with it when blending the two exposures. this is why you use panorama software. it reprojects each frame of the flat film onto the surface of a cylinder accounting for the lens focal length. this is the preparation needed so that the images can be more or less overlaid. any mismatches should be purely because of scanning and camera movement. this assumes no distortion in the lens aside from the projection of a portion of a cylinder onto the film's flat plane. this is never true. scanning also has slight movements too and that adds some alignment issues. That does make sense now that I think about it - but I shot horizontally. shooting portrait is to get as much up/down as possible. otherwise when put together, it can look very squashed in perspective. I scanned the right side of the finder till I found a distinctive object, then just unlocked the base of the ball head and moved it till it was on the left side of the frame. The overlap was not much - maybe 10 - 20%. that is as much as you want to go when assembling by hand. too much blending otherwise. using a program to do the blending means you not only should overlap more but the results will be better with a good program. No, not at all. Never even thought about it. BTW - what is the 'true center?' of a lens? =:-0 this is the nodal point. a camera rotated about the nodal point will not show a left/right movement of nearby objects since the camera moves left or right during rotation. I _was_ fussy about leveling - I put a level into the camera hotshoe and worked my way up from the small circular level on the tripod, to the two horizontal levels the tripod head, to the level on the camera itself. I also checked that as I rotated the camera, the horizon did not shift up or down in the frame. Probably because of lens distortions, I had to shoot with the film plane straight up and down - even with the tripod fairly close to the water (I was 10 to 15 feet out in the river) the horizon tended to be more vertically centered than I wanted. leveling is important only when you need a level horizon. if you deliberately are excluding horizon you may not care. looking down over a cliff is a case where you don't need/want it level. Photoshop was it - I created a large blank image big enough to hold all three exposures, and then just added each one as a layer on top of the one before, making the new layer temporarily transparent to be able to line it up. Then I dropped the new layer onto the old and use the eraser tool at varying levels of transparency to blend the two. After that I cleaned up with the clone stamp and used the dodge and burn tools to correct for obvious differences in how the water reflected back light in the different frames. Photoshop Elements 2.0 has this as a builtin function. it is one of few places where Elements has something that isn't at all in full Photoshop. it takes me about 10 minutes on average to stitch a 4 -6 photo panorama using specific software. the time savings is a lot. Herb
Re: OT: Leni Reifenstahl: A giant passes away
Let´s face it, who would say NO if some maniac gave you unlimited resources to do what you wanted, and it didn´t hurt anyone just then. In addition this particular maniac was about to conquer the world, so you were on winning side. The rhetorics were there, but nobody, not even the US or the British understood how serious it was. Why should she? DagT På onsdag, 17. september 2003, kl. 19:07, graywolf: Why don't we leave the poor women to rest in peace. Like all apathetic people she probably felt that if she didn't notice it would go away. I mean she is dead already.
Re: OT: FS: Pentax owner sells Leica CL
Hate to tell you this, Cotty, but I get no photos when I go to your auction. Cotty wrote: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2952024579 Leica CL + 40mm Summicron C for sale on eBay. My auction. Thanks. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
amateur or pro has nothing to do with it. depends on what you do. i shoot many exposures in the 10 second range. Herb... - Original Message - From: Ramesh Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: Tripods usage with DSLR In outdoor photography, for an amature photographer, if the focal length of the lens is less than 135mm, I think tripod may not be a real necessicity.
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
I shoot sporting type of events with my DSLR and i use a sturdy monopod for most of it.Unless i really need to move around a lot then i hand hold.Its not bad to do at 1/1000 or 1/1250. I sometimes shoot pictures for work related things and then i use a tripod,Manfotto 028 as we tend to take a series of shots in a panoramic setting. The noise on the D1 is poor past iso 400-800 and time is really bad.I hear the D2H takes care of this much better. Dave amateur or pro has nothing to do with it. depends on what you do. i shoot many exposures in the 10 second range. Herb... - Original Message - From: Ramesh Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: Tripods usage with DSLR In outdoor photography, for an amature photographer, if the focal length of the lens is less than 135mm, I think tripod may not be a real necessicity.
Re: My own little *ist D review
Cotty schrieb: No??? Why not? Well, in maual mode, the *ist D simply does not meter with any lens that is not set to A position. Why they chose tthe *ist D to behave like this, only the Pentax engineers would be able to explain. Arnold
Re: First Pano Try
Herb wrote, regarding panorama software: Photoshop Elements 2.0 has this as a builtin function. it is one of few places where Elements has something that isn't at all in full Photoshop. it takes me about 10 minutes on average to stitch a 4 -6 photo panorama using specific software. the time savings is a lot. Sometimes this function just can't get the job done, though. My Sept PUG entry was stitched together by me using Layers and correction tools in Photoshop Elements 2.0 because the automatic function was producing a horribly distorted result.
Re: First Pano Try
Mark, I don't know much about this #4 question, either. Apparently, any lens-body combo has an axis about which it can be panned that minimizes distortion for reconstituting panoramas. I think nodal point is part of the technical discussion. This is a thing I've read about and couldn't grasp. And, more to the point, see how to test and implement. Believe me, question #4 I would not have asked of just anyone, but your shots give me the impression you're about 25 years ahead of me, so I thought I'd ask it. BTW, Luminous Landscape has a nice article on stitching panoramas, and the meat of that article was the basis for my other questions. And now the _ultimate_ new question: Are you pleased with your first effort? Looked good to me in computer resolution on your site. -Lon Mark Cassino wrote, snipped heavily: At 09:18 AM 9/16/2003 -0400, Lon Williamson wrote: 4) Did you worry about the true center of the lens? No, not at all. Never even thought about it. BTW - what is the 'true center?' of a lens? =:-0
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
Nope. Boosting ISO to get the shutter speed you want causes underexposure, all else being equal. You should not, repeat: NOT adjust ISO to boost your shutter speed just to keep hand-holding. Really. -Lon Ramesh Kumar wrote: Let me make it clear.. Say I am using 100mm lens and I also want aperture to be f8. With this setting shutter speed is too low to take handheld shots, in such cases i can just increase the ISO till shutter speed becomes more than 1/200sec. Thus I can avoid tripod. Yes, if you deliberately want a long exposure then you need a tripod. Same goes to night photography Thanks Ramesh --- Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: amateur or pro has nothing to do with it. depends on what you do. i shoot many exposures in the 10 second range. Herb... - Original Message - From: Ramesh Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: Tripods usage with DSLR In outdoor photography, for an amature photographer, if the focal length of the lens is less than 135mm, I think tripod may not be a real necessicity. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
and get more image noise and other things that come along with that increase in ISO. if there wasn't any penalty, they wouldn't have set the default ISO to 200. highest quality means lowest ISO for any given camera. Herb - Original Message - From: Ramesh Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:10 PM Subject: Re: Tripods usage with DSLR Let me make it clear.. Say I am using 100mm lens and I also want aperture to be f8. With this setting shutter speed is too low to take handheld shots, in such cases i can just increase the ISO till shutter speed becomes more than 1/200sec. Thus I can avoid tripod.
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
On 17/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: istD or any equivalent DSLR seems to reproduce decent outputs at higher ISO(say 400+) speeds. In outdoor photography, for an amature photographer, if the focal length of the lens is less than 135mm, I think tripod may not be a real necessicity. This comes as big relief for me because I need not have to carry my 3KG tripod for hiking. I agree tripod is needed for long teles like 300mm/2.8 because their weight makes it difficult to do handheld photography. I would like hear other opinion on this. Thanks Ramesh Au contraire mon frere. In fact because the effective focal length is increased on each lens due to the smaller sensor size (on less than 'full-frame' sensor cameras), a tripod may become more essential, depending on the type of photography done. So a 50mm lens acts like a 75 or 80mm lens, and the old yard stick of 1/ 50th of a second handheld on this lens would not apply. It would be 1/ 75th or so. I shoot landscapes on a DSLR and just as with film, a tripod is pretty much essential kit. The difference is, when I stop for a pint, I can switch to 800 ISO on the same camera / lens and shoot available light characters supping beer. To be honest, I find the same photographic principles apply to digital as they do to film in practice. Which makes the transition on the ground much easier... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
- Original Message - From: Ramesh Kumar Subject: Re: Tripods usage with DSLR Say I am using 100mm lens and I also want aperture to be f8. With this setting shutter speed is too low to take handheld shots, in such cases i can just increase the ISO till shutter speed becomes more than 1/200sec. Thus I can avoid tripod. Yes, if you deliberately want a long exposure then you need a tripod. Same goes to night photography The same can be said with film. You can put a faster film in the camera (or dial up the ISO with the intention of push processing) until you get a shutter speed you think you can hand hold. Of course, you are compromising image quality by not shooting the optimal speed, and are still not getting as good an image as if you had used a good tripod in the first place. A good tripod will improve image quality, regardless of shutter speed or lens. I am constantly amazed that people will go out and spend many thousands of dollars on the finest cameras and lenses and then take enough technical shortcuts that they may as well have bought a broken Holga for what they are going to get back from the lab. It amazed me when I was selling this stuff, it amazed me when I was teaching this stuff, it amazed me when I was earning my living with this stuff, and it still amazes me now that I am photofinishing. For some reason, people think there is a free lunch to be had out there. Tanstafl. Carry a good quality tripod, and learn how to use it to your advantage. William Robb
Re: My own little *ist D review
On 17/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Cotty schrieb: No??? Why not? Well, in maual mode, the *ist D simply does not meter with any lens that is not set to A position. Why they chose tthe *ist D to behave like this, only the Pentax engineers would be able to explain. Arnold You're kidding. dawning realisation Now I see why folk are upset. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: OT: Anyone travelling USA - UK in the near future?
On 17/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Flat trailer trash dolls are not sold here. Even fully deflated, the better samples have _some_ shape. I should know. I own 524 of 'em. lol. -Lon Cotty wrote: Hey, those Trailer Trash blow-up dolls do pack quite flat, can I get one as well? ROTFL. I can see this thread degenerating rapidly from here, so I think I'll stop abruptly and pull out while I can. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer
Thanks Ken, You mentioned several months ago that it would be in OP, and I've been looking, in vain. I was afraid that I'd missed it or something. Now I'm relieved to find that I haven't. I think I may have already congratulated you, but what the hell, I'll do it again! It's a great photo, and most worthy or publication. cheers, frank Kenneth Waller wrote: Well, after being advised a year ago that an image of mine was selected for publication in Outdoor Photographer, Your Gallery section, it finally appeared in the October 2003 issue. Check out pages 80/81 of that issue - the Your Gallery section. I've posted this previously to the PUG (http://pug.komkon.org/01jul/IceFlwr.html). I also sent them a paragraph about the capture of this image but they chose to write their own. They did to use this image previously as a background for an story on Keeping Cool, in the June 2003 issue of Outdoor Photographer. Kenneth Waller -- Hell is others -Jean Paul Sartre
RE: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of *ist D)
OK, some pics with more DOF and detail at the corners - the resolution of this little beastie seems quite good! Various ISO ratings and hopefully EXIF data on all the new ones... -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham Sent: 17 September 2003 13:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of *ist D) I now have thumbnails which might help. Have my tripod with me today, so will take some with better DOF/stability so will be able to better judge the sharpness. http://www.calcot.plus.com/Pentax/Pentax.htm These are all taken with default settings in terms of sharpening/colour etc. If these are too big for anyone who wants to judge the noise at higher ISOs etc, I will crop sections or do whatever you want - just let me know. -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham Sent: 16 September 2003 23:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ist D production samples (WAS: UK Street Price of *ist D) A couple more pics now at ISO 1600 and 3200. Noise is almost negligible at 800 on limited tests so far. Not surprisingly there is quite a bit at 3200. http://www.calcot.plus.com/Pentax/Pentax.htm -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham Sent: 16 September 2003 18:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: UK Street Price of *ist D Some really naff pics here, but they WERE taken with a Production istD at full res best jpg and uploaded at full size. I rotated a couple and I think they got compressed when I saved them, but if anyone want high res pics feel free. I have now worked out how to do TIFFs and change the ISO (all these were at 200) and will post something better soon (along with a better page with thumbnails). http://www.calcot.plus.com/Pentax/Pentax.htm Hopefully the link works... WARNING THEY ARE BIGG! -Original Message- From: Frits Wuthrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 September 2003 17:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: UK Street Price of *ist D Oh yes, Rob pointed to your website, so now I know. I wonder why the *ist D would be a Miscellaneous Accessory? British Humour? Cheers. On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 15:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Park camera is GBP1199.99 = $1920.58 = Eur 1703.32 Anyone knows what our Peter from Sunny Brighton charges? Sorry, I haven't a clue. Eh?? Rob can tell you. Cheers Peter CAMERA DIRECT 8 DORSET STREET BRIGHTON EAST SUSSEX BN2 1WA UK http://www.camera-direct.com TEL 44 1273 681129 FAX 44 1273 681135 -- Frits Wuthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer
On 17/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Well, after being advised a year ago that an image of mine was selected for publication in Outdoor Photographer, Your Gallery section, it finally appeared in the October 2003 issue. Check out pages 80/81 of that issue - Well done Ken. I'll keep em peeled for a copy. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Tripod use
Hi all, there is an unwritten rule saying the focallength in mm, ie 200, makes 1/200 as the minimum shutterspeed to be used handheld. But a 500mm at 1/500 may not be OK. Weight is a factor, as is position. If your hands are steady you can go to a lower speed. I used to use 1/8 with 28 or 24mm and got a fine result. I used the 85 with 1/60 recently and if the people on stage weren't moving too much the result was fine. :-) Paul Delcour
Re: An outing with an MX.
I'm with you, Keith. I'm a hat guy, whether I've got a camera or not. I have a sort of Indy Jones fedora that does a great job of shading light for when I have the MX or Spotties. Baseball caps help a great deal, too (but not as much as the fedora). Unfortunately, my berets and my Nepalese goatherder's hats don't have any brim or peak, so they're useless in that regard. Once I started wearing hats, I stopped getting colds. I don't know if there's a correlation or not. cheers, frank Keith Whaley wrote: I don't do a lot of indoor shooting, but I have a couple of photography hats I wear for most of my outdoor forays, that shade the viewfinder well. One is sort of pork-pie hat, with a flat crown and soft 2 3/4 brim all around. Crushable and you can stick it in your kit or back pocket or waistband when you don't want to wear it. That one is with me at all times. Shades the viewfinder well. My latest acquisition is The Tilley Hat. 3 1/2 brim, sort of looks like an Aussie outback hat, with the brim 'dip' fore and aft. Thank the movies for that perception, but go look at: http://www.tilley.com. Mine's an LT-6 and I love it! Check it out! -- Hell is others -Jean Paul Sartre
Re: An outing with an MX.
frank theriault wrote: I'm with you, Keith. I'm a hat guy, whether I've got a camera or not. I have a sort of Indy Jones fedora that does a great job of shading light for when I have the MX or Spotties. Baseball caps help a great deal, too (but not as much as the fedora). Unfortunately, my berets and my Nepalese goatherder's hats don't have any brim or peak, so they're useless in that regard. Once I started wearing hats, I stopped getting colds. I don't know if there's a correlation or not. Sure there is! The outdoor germs fall like rain on your hat, dribble off the rim and fall to the ground, harmless. So it seems, anyhow. . . long as they don't fall on your face, they can't dig in and hold on... cheers, frank Keith Whaley wrote: I don't do a lot of indoor shooting, but I have a couple of photography hats I wear for most of my outdoor forays, that shade the viewfinder well. One is sort of pork-pie hat, with a flat crown and soft 2 3/4 brim all around. Crushable and you can stick it in your kit or back pocket or waistband when you don't want to wear it. That one is with me at all times. Shades the viewfinder well. My latest acquisition is The Tilley Hat. 3 1/2 brim, sort of looks like an Aussie outback hat, with the brim 'dip' fore and aft. Thank the movies for that perception, but go look at: http://www.tilley.com. Mine's an LT-6 and I love it! Check it out!
Re: OT: Anyone travelling USA - UK in the near future?
Cotty wrote: On 17/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Flat trailer trash dolls are not sold here. Even fully deflated, the better samples have _some_ shape. I should know. I own 524 of 'em. lol. -Lon Cotty wrote: Hey, those Trailer Trash blow-up dolls do pack quite flat, can I get one as well? ROTFL. I can see this thread degenerating rapidly from here, so I think I'll stop abruptly and pull out while I can. You just HAD to say it, didn't you, Cot? Sig. Cheers, Cotty
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
Snip Carry a good quality tripod, and learn how to use it to your advantage. William Robb When I first started out in photography and bought a book by John Shaw on nature photography those were almost his exact words. Christian
Re: OT: Leni Reifenstahl: A giant passes away
Dag, I've come to think that wars, now and thru the ages, were carried out by peoples who KNEW they were right. Regards, Bob S. From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] Even my kids are starting to recognize that wars are started by overdoing the revenge. _ Need more e-mail storage? Get 10MB with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
Re: Tripod use
- Original Message - From: Paul Delcour Subject: Tripod use Hi all, there is an unwritten rule saying the focallength in mm, ie 200, makes 1/200 as the minimum shutterspeed to be used handheld. But a 500mm at 1/500 may not be OK. Weight is a factor, as is position. If your hands are steady you can go to a lower speed. I used to use 1/8 with 28 or 24mm and got a fine result. I used the 85 with 1/60 recently and if the people on stage weren't moving too much the result was fine. Try this: Put your best lens on your camera. Put a short roll of fine grained film (it doesn't matter what type) into your camera. Take pictures of the same scenen hand held, at 1/1000, 1/500, 1/250, 1/125, 1/60, and 1/30, adjusting the aperture to ensure correct exposure. Repeat the test, except this time, put the camera on a rock solid tripod, and use mirror lock up if possible. Process the film and examine the results under a microscope. When I did this, I was surprised to find that a tripod improved the resolution of pictures taken with a 50mm lens at 1/1000 of a second. William Robb
Re: My own little *ist D review
Cotty wrote: You're kidding. dawning realisation Now I see why folk are upset. Now Pentax users know *exactly* how Nikon users felt when the F80 (N80) was introduced, with its deliberately designed inability to meter with pre-autofocus Nikkors. That wasn't the reason why I abandoned Nikon for Pentax, but it was probably *one* of the reasons. Now Pentax have done it, and Canon and Minolta did it a long time ago, I have nowhere to go! :-( John
