Re: Free Film (From Kodak)
On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Jon Myers wrote: I filled that form out too, but they sent the wrong format - I feel sure I indicated that I wanted 135, but what arrived was 4 rolls of 120. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers. And I've already found a home for it. The person that informed me about the free film shoots 120. A lot of us are still waiting for the film, any film. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RE: (Almost) Free Film
Markus Maurer wrote: It seems that Color plus is the cheaper consumer line. I did not see it in warehouses and food chains yet I think it comes in just above plankton... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: RE: (Almost) Free Film
It's sitting next to the chewing gum and the cashier ;-) greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 7:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: RE: (Almost) Free Film Markus Maurer wrote: It seems that Color plus is the cheaper consumer line. I did not see it in warehouses and food chains yet I think it comes in just above plankton... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: (Almost) Free Film
Hi Pentaxians yes, please look deep into your freezers and make some irrestible offers for large amounts of quality but obsolete film as FS ;-) BTW what happened to Fuji Films, I see their Superia film disappearing in most warehouses here and only Kodak left? greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Francis Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 5:46 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: (Almost) Free Film This is an amazing list -- just because I shoot pentax, someone is offering me free film. Are any of the Velvia, Elite Chrome or Portra still available? If so I would be positively thrilled to lighten your load. I don't have paypal but I could send you a money order if inform me of the shipping cost (to Canada). Cheers, Francis Jerome Reyes wrote: I came across the following while gathering a few things around the house for eBay today: 2 rolls of Tri-X Pan 400 4 rolls of Kodak Gold 200 4 rolls of Elite Chrome 100 1 roll of Portra 160NC 1 roll of Supra 800 1 roll of Supra 400 1 roll of Ektachrome 160T 2 rolls of Velvia (ISO 50) Trouble is, I can't figure out how to load them into the K10D. All 16 rolls are 36exp. And (finally) here's the catch: The batch is 3 years old and has been UN-refrigerated pretty much the entire time. I wouldn't recommend doing anything serious with it, obviously, but if you're willing to take a chance on some not-so-important subjects, it's yours for the cost of shipping. Let me know. Thanks - Jerome __ Jerome Reyes Photography http://exposedfilm.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: (Almost) Free Film
- Original Message - From: Markus Maurer Subject: RE: (Almost) Free Film BTW what happened to Fuji Films, I see their Superia film disappearing in most warehouses here and only Kodak left? Thats what happens when stuff becomes obsolete. Given Fuji's history, I'm not surprised they are leading the pack. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: (Almost) Free Film
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Markus Maurer Subject: RE: (Almost) Free Film BTW what happened to Fuji Films, I see their Superia film disappearing in most warehouses here and only Kodak left? Thats what happens when stuff becomes obsolete. Given Fuji's history, I'm not surprised they are leading the pack. William Robb Interesting, around here it's Fuji everywhere. And if it isn't Fuji, it's rebranded Fuji (Life brand from Shoppers Drug Mart, Black's in-house film, etc). Consumer Kodak print film is only found in cheap independant corner stores. Most of the serious film shooters I know who aren't bargain shoppers haunting the Expired Bins have moved over to Fuji for colour work, given Fuji's strong commitment to film and Kodak's rather shaky situation. BW users seem to be headed to Ilford and Eastern European brands. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: (Almost) Free Film
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Fuji's strong commitment to film snip Almost worth a Mark! - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: (Almost) Free Film
Hi Pentaxians anyone knows the difference between Kodak Gold 200 and Kodak Color plus 200 negative film? Gold is more expensive as far as I see. thanks Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: (Almost) Free Film
Hi Adam Fuji disappeared in Migros, the largest shop chain for food and nonfood in Switzerland as well as in Interdiscount, the computer shop of Coop the number two in the market about 3 month ago. I only see Fuji in Mediamarkt (a german brand) and in small photo shops nowadays. I noly see Kodak film at nearly double the price of Superia, mostly Gold an Ultra color and some rebranded Agfa in Coop ... greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:18 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: (Almost) Free Film William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Markus Maurer Subject: RE: (Almost) Free Film BTW what happened to Fuji Films, I see their Superia film disappearing in most warehouses here and only Kodak left? Thats what happens when stuff becomes obsolete. Given Fuji's history, I'm not surprised they are leading the pack. William Robb Interesting, around here it's Fuji everywhere. And if it isn't Fuji, it's rebranded Fuji (Life brand from Shoppers Drug Mart, Black's in-house film, etc). Consumer Kodak print film is only found in cheap independant corner stores. Most of the serious film shooters I know who aren't bargain shoppers haunting the Expired Bins have moved over to Fuji for colour work, given Fuji's strong commitment to film and Kodak's rather shaky situation. BW users seem to be headed to Ilford and Eastern European brands. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: (Almost) Free Film
- Original Message - From: Markus Maurer Subject: RE: (Almost) Free Film Hi Pentaxians anyone knows the difference between Kodak Gold 200 and Kodak Color plus 200 negative film? Gold is more expensive as far as I see. In Canada Kodak markets Gold 200 beside a product called Funtime 200, which they charge a lot less for. Gold 200 is a nicer film, better colour, contrast and saturation, and finer grain. Your Color Plus may be the same as our Funtime. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: (Almost) Free Film
On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:44:34 +0100 Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fuji disappeared in Migros, the largest shop chain for food and nonfood in Switzerland as well as in Interdiscount, the computer shop of Coop the number two in the market about 3 month ago. I only see Fuji in Mediamarkt (a german brand) and in small photo shops nowadays. I noly see Kodak film at nearly double the price of Superia, mostly Gold an Ultra color and some rebranded Agfa in Coop ... very similar to the situation in india. fuji, still preferred by the 'insiders' (a very good photographer friend of mine who shoots only film, and uses nikon f100, wouldn't use anything else and ilford for bw), is difficult to get but is available provided you are willing to search around; kodak is everywhere, gold and ultra; and konica (minolta) [sony] is battling it out; the last time i developed and printed two rolls, i got two rolls of KM crystal 200 free :)) and, they also sell canons in their kiosks. the 350d is being discounted right now though still steep compared to US prices regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Free Film (From Kodak)
I forgot all about this until today - a few months ago my brother sent me a link to film give-away page on the Kodak Website. I filled out the questions, telling them I shoot 35mm and medium format. I goofed up though and where it asked to categorize my photography I intended to click on 'fine art' (hey - we all have our ambitions) but accidentally clicked on 'government / military'. They were right next to each other on the alphabetical listing (F-G). I sorta hoped to get some Tri-X or Plus-X, but then I already have several rolls of both in the freezer. Instead today a tube arrived with two 35mm rolls of Porta 400 (one VC, once NC) and two 120 rolls of Porta 160 (again - VC/NC) Cool! I have no fast color 35mm film left and the ISO 160 Porta is exactly what I'd use for landscapes. Plus there's a substantial coupon ($25) for orders of $125 or more. My color 120 film supply is dwindling (I'm down to just 5 220 rolls of NPS and 3 rolls of Konica Impressa 50) so I may just bite on this. Yeah yeah yeah - I got the K10D, but a well exposed 6x7 negative still rocks for some applications. I checked and the promo ended - otherwise I'd post the link to it. - MCC -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Free Film (From Kodak)
I filled that form out too, but they sent the wrong format - I feel sure I indicated that I wanted 135, but what arrived was 4 rolls of 120. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers. And I've already found a home for it. The person that informed me about the free film shoots 120. --- Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot all about this until today - a few months ago my brother sent me a link to film give-away page on the Kodak Website. I filled out the questions, telling them I shoot 35mm and medium format. I goofed up though and where it asked to categorize my photography I intended to click on 'fine art' (hey - we all have our ambitions) but accidentally clicked on 'government / military'. They were right next to each other on the alphabetical listing (F-G). I sorta hoped to get some Tri-X or Plus-X, but then I already have several rolls of both in the freezer. Instead today a tube arrived with two 35mm rolls of Porta 400 (one VC, once NC) and two 120 rolls of Porta 160 (again - VC/NC) Cool! I have no fast color 35mm film left and the ISO 160 Porta is exactly what I'd use for landscapes. Plus there's a substantial coupon ($25) for orders of $125 or more. My color 120 film supply is dwindling (I'm down to just 5 220 rolls of NPS and 3 rolls of Konica Impressa 50) so I may just bite on this. Yeah yeah yeah - I got the K10D, but a well exposed 6x7 negative still rocks for some applications. I checked and the promo ended - otherwise I'd post the link to it. - MCC -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: (Almost) Free Film
Thanks William It seems that Color plus is the cheaper consumer line. I did not see it in warehouses and food chains yet but in an internet auction. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 7:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: (Almost) Free Film - Original Message - From: Markus Maurer Subject: RE: (Almost) Free Film Hi Pentaxians anyone knows the difference between Kodak Gold 200 and Kodak Color plus 200 negative film? Gold is more expensive as far as I see. In Canada Kodak markets Gold 200 beside a product called Funtime 200, which they charge a lot less for. Gold 200 is a nicer film, better colour, contrast and saturation, and finer grain. Your Color Plus may be the same as our Funtime. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: (Almost) Free Film
This is an amazing list -- just because I shoot pentax, someone is offering me free film. Are any of the Velvia, Elite Chrome or Portra still available? If so I would be positively thrilled to lighten your load. I don't have paypal but I could send you a money order if inform me of the shipping cost (to Canada). Cheers, Francis Jerome Reyes wrote: I came across the following while gathering a few things around the house for eBay today: 2 rolls of Tri-X Pan 400 4 rolls of Kodak Gold 200 4 rolls of Elite Chrome 100 1 roll of Portra 160NC 1 roll of Supra 800 1 roll of Supra 400 1 roll of Ektachrome 160T 2 rolls of Velvia (ISO 50) Trouble is, I can't figure out how to load them into the K10D. All 16 rolls are 36exp. And (finally) here's the catch: The batch is 3 years old and has been UN-refrigerated pretty much the entire time. I wouldn't recommend doing anything serious with it, obviously, but if you're willing to take a chance on some not-so-important subjects, it's yours for the cost of shipping. Let me know. Thanks - Jerome __ Jerome Reyes Photography http://exposedfilm.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: (Almost) Free Film
J-Dog, I'll take the Tri-x and, the Gold 200, if you please ;) Oh, you got the K10 huh? You suck! Hit me with the shipping charge and I'll paypal you. Cory Waters 6080 Rocky Creek Drive Douglasville, GA 30135 - Original Message - From: Jerome Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 10:52 PM Subject: (Almost) Free Film I came across the following while gathering a few things around the house for eBay today: 2 rolls of Tri-X Pan 400 4 rolls of Kodak Gold 200 4 rolls of Elite Chrome 100 1 roll of Portra 160NC 1 roll of Supra 800 1 roll of Supra 400 1 roll of Ektachrome 160T 2 rolls of Velvia (ISO 50) Trouble is, I can't figure out how to load them into the K10D. All 16 rolls are 36exp. And (finally) here's the catch: The batch is 3 years old and has been UN-refrigerated pretty much the entire time. I wouldn't recommend doing anything serious with it, obviously, but if you're willing to take a chance on some not-so-important subjects, it's yours for the cost of shipping. Let me know. Thanks - Jerome __ Jerome Reyes Photography http://exposedfilm.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 9:39 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: (Almost) Free Film
Cory... Oh, you got the K10 huh? You suck! No, what sucks is the extent to which I'm going to get taken to the cleaners for my ist-D on eBay. Last I checked, I think they're selling for like $6 now g. Geez Louise. But hey, it's gotta go so I can pay for the new stuff. Listed it last night, so we'll see how it goes. Should've been smart like Paul and sold it a month ago. Oh well. Anywayz, I'll take the Tri-x and, the Gold 200, if you please You can have it even though (I) suck, according to you. FYI to anyone interested, the rest of the film has been claimed as well by another list member. Thanks. - Jerome __ Jerome Reyes Photography http://exposedfilm.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: (Almost) Free Film
On Dec 3, 2006, at 10:52 PM, Jerome Reyes wrote: I came across the following while gathering a few things around the house for eBay today: 2 rolls of Tri-X Pan 400 4 rolls of Kodak Gold 200 4 rolls of Elite Chrome 100 1 roll of Portra 160NC 1 roll of Supra 800 1 roll of Supra 400 1 roll of Ektachrome 160T 2 rolls of Velvia (ISO 50) Trouble is, I can't figure out how to load them into the K10D. This requires a digital hammer. They're not easy to find. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: (Almost) Free Film
Trouble is, I can't figure out how to load them into the K10D. This requires a digital hammer. They're not easy to find. Or pixel lubricant. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (Almost) Free Film On Dec 3, 2006, at 10:52 PM, Jerome Reyes wrote: I came across the following while gathering a few things around the house for eBay today: 2 rolls of Tri-X Pan 400 4 rolls of Kodak Gold 200 4 rolls of Elite Chrome 100 1 roll of Portra 160NC 1 roll of Supra 800 1 roll of Supra 400 1 roll of Ektachrome 160T 2 rolls of Velvia (ISO 50) Trouble is, I can't figure out how to load them into the K10D. This requires a digital hammer. They're not easy to find. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
(Almost) Free Film
I came across the following while gathering a few things around the house for eBay today: 2 rolls of Tri-X Pan 400 4 rolls of Kodak Gold 200 4 rolls of Elite Chrome 100 1 roll of Portra 160NC 1 roll of Supra 800 1 roll of Supra 400 1 roll of Ektachrome 160T 2 rolls of Velvia (ISO 50) Trouble is, I can't figure out how to load them into the K10D. All 16 rolls are 36exp. And (finally) here's the catch: The batch is 3 years old and has been UN-refrigerated pretty much the entire time. I wouldn't recommend doing anything serious with it, obviously, but if you're willing to take a chance on some not-so-important subjects, it's yours for the cost of shipping. Let me know. Thanks - Jerome __ Jerome Reyes Photography http://exposedfilm.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Free film
Claim a roll of Kodak: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/wrt/campaigns/ GC00094/entry.jhtml Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Free film
It's for UK residents only... :-) Paul Delcour From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 13:37:52 +0100 To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Free film Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 08:38:02 -0400 GC00094/entry.jhtml
Re: Free film
Yeah, Cotty, The days of the Empire are long over... vbg cheers, frank Paul Delcour wrote: It's for UK residents only... :-) Paul Delcour -- Honour - that virtue of the unjust! -Albert Camus
Re: Free film
On the other hand, as the Royal Mail still forwards my mail to the Netherlands, I will request it. Thanks Cotty! Frits On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 14:36, frank theriault wrote: Yeah, Cotty, The days of the Empire are long over... vbg cheers, frank Paul Delcour wrote: It's for UK residents only... :-) Paul Delcour -- Honour - that virtue of the unjust! -Albert Camus -- Frits Wuthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free film/Cheap film
No, I am not seeing those colours in the neutral. I am not talking colour cast here, just that these colours tend to have slightly greater punch. It is well known that Kodak is warmer than fuji in general isnt it? I use EBX interchangeably with Velvia, when I want 100 ASA I use EBX, otherwise Velvia. EBX has the same saturation, and very good grain for a 100 speed film. EBX leans slightly more on the magenta side, whereas Vevia leans to the greens in comparison. If you are seeing those colours in the neutrals, the Velvia is being underprocessed and the EBX is being overprocessed. They're both really picky. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Free film/Cheap film
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 10:12 AM, Rob Brigham wrote: No, I am not seeing those colours in the neutral. I am not talking colour cast here, just that these colours tend to have slightly greater punch. It is well known that Kodak is warmer than fuji in general isnt it? Every film is different. Astia is warmer than Provia, E100S is much colder than E100SW, Astia is warmer than E100S. There is no absolute Fuji-is-always-this-in-comparison-to-Kodak equation. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Free film/Cheap film
Everybody in the UK buy Amateur Photographer this week. You get a free roll of 36 exp Kodak EliteChrome Extra Colour. 7dayshop sells it for £2.15 plus pp Jessops selss 10 packs for £22.50 ish (less 10%) ie just over £20 AP costs 1.95 and gives you a free film I am going to buy 10 copies this week! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Free film/Cheap film
You must have got a duff batch then. There is very little difference between this and E100VS normally. The difference is so marginal that EBX (extra colour) is actually a much better buy. Besides, this version dont need to be kept in a fridge. I use EBX interchangeably with Velvia, when I want 100 ASA I use EBX, otherwise Velvia. EBX has the same saturation, and very good grain for a 100 speed film. EBX leans slightly more on the magenta side, whereas Vevia leans to the greens in comparison. -Original Message- From: Patrick White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 April 2002 17:18 To: pentaxdiscuss Subject: Re: Free film/Cheap film Rob Brigham writes: Everybody in the UK buy Amateur Photographer this week. You get a free roll of 36 exp Kodak EliteChrome Extra Colour. I am going to buy 10 copies this week! If this is the same consumer-variety extra color Elitechrome that Kodak sells over here in the US, you might want to develop the first roll before investing in 10 magazines :-) I tried some last summer and found it had a very grainy, almost old autochrome look, whereas the professional variety of this film has practically no grain in comparison. hope that helps, patbob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Free film/Cheap film
Everybody in the UK buy Amateur Photographer this week. You get a free roll of 36 exp Kodak EliteChrome Extra Colour. 7dayshop sells it for £2.15 plus pp Jessops selss 10 packs for £22.50 ish (less 10%) ie just over £20 AP costs 1.95 and gives you a free film I am going to buy 10 copies this week! Yeah, but Rob, you can surely only read one copy of AP once?? Or maybe you keep a few caged birds?? ;-) Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
