Re: Linked directory or explicit reference

2024-05-02 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 12:50 AM Senor Cervesa 
wrote:
[snip]

>  I'm not sure what would trigger "directory not empty".


The lost+found directory.


Re: Linked directory or explicit reference

2024-05-01 Thread Senor Cervesa

On 4/30/2024 17:31, Ron Johnson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 7:00 PM Senor Cervesa 
 wrote:


Hi All;

When doing an initial install of PostgreSQL on RHEL 7 or 8 derived
OS via rpm, what are pros, cons and recommendations of these 2
procedures for utilizing a second disk?

Secondary SSD or RAID mounted at /disk2.

Option #1

 1. install the rpm which creates basic user and home
 2. Create symlink /var/lib/pgsql/15/data --> /disk2/data
 3. initdb with no special options

Or Option #2

 1. install the rpm which creates basic user and home
 2. initdb with --pgdata=/disk2/data
Probably using included 'postgresql-12-setup' script

I also link /var/lib/pgsql/data  --> ../15/data so automation can
reference postgresql.conf without knowing version (legacy stuff).


In my experience,The PgBackRest restore feature does not like symlinks.
I hadn't considered that and it's the kind of experience feedback I'm 
looking for. It won't be an issue for me though.


The install is automated with a bash script which handles several
options including whether there is a second disk for DB. Scripting
the install with or without the second disk is straight forward
but I'm concerned with either scenario causing unforeseen differences.

I don't think there's a benefit to using tablespace here but I
have no experience with it. The systemd service is configured with
a dependency on the disk mount so I don't think there are
different risks for starting postgres with missing data directory.

I've run postgres in both scenarios and not had any issues. I'm
interested in comments from others on their experience using these
or other options.

Is the mount point just "/disk2" when using "--pgdata=/disk2/data"?  
I've gotten "directory not empty" errors when the mount point is 
"/Database/x.y/data".



When linked, it looks like:

[root@test110 pgsql]# ll /var/lib/pgsql/15/data
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 12 May  1 05:21 /var/lib/pgsql/15/data -> 
/disk2/data/


I'm not sure what would trigger "directory not empty". When running 
initdb there is nothing under data. I could see a problem with a symlink 
throwing that message as a catchall though. I haven't run across any 
problems yet.


Thank you Ron Johnson for the feedback.






Re: Linked directory or explicit reference

2024-04-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 7:00 PM Senor Cervesa 
wrote:

> Hi All;
>
> When doing an initial install of PostgreSQL on RHEL 7 or 8 derived OS via
> rpm, what are pros, cons and recommendations of these 2 procedures for
> utilizing a second disk?
>
> Secondary SSD or RAID mounted at /disk2.
>
> Option #1
>
>1. install the rpm which creates basic user and home
>2. Create symlink /var/lib/pgsql/15/data --> /disk2/data
>3. initdb with no special options
>
> Or Option #2
>
>1. install the rpm which creates basic user and home
>2. initdb with --pgdata=/disk2/data
>Probably using included 'postgresql-12-setup' script
>
> I also link /var/lib/pgsql/data  --> ../15/data so automation can
> reference postgresql.conf without knowing version (legacy stuff).
>

In my experience,The PgBackRest restore feature does not like symlinks.


> The install is automated with a bash script which handles several options
> including whether there is a second disk for DB. Scripting the install with
> or without the second disk is straight forward but I'm concerned with
> either scenario causing unforeseen differences.
>
> I don't think there's a benefit to using tablespace here but I have no
> experience with it. The systemd service is configured with a dependency on
> the disk mount so I don't think there are different risks for starting
> postgres with missing data directory.
>
> I've run postgres in both scenarios and not had any issues. I'm interested
> in comments from others on their experience using these or other options.
>
Is the mount point just "/disk2" when using "--pgdata=/disk2/data"?  I've
gotten "directory not empty" errors when the mount point is
"/Database/x.y/data".


Linked directory or explicit reference

2024-04-30 Thread Senor Cervesa

Hi All;

When doing an initial install of PostgreSQL on RHEL 7 or 8 derived OS 
via rpm, what are pros, cons and recommendations of these 2 procedures 
for utilizing a second disk?


Secondary SSD or RAID mounted at /disk2.

Option #1

1. install the rpm which creates basic user and home
2. Create symlink /var/lib/pgsql/15/data --> /disk2/data
3. initdb with no special options

Or Option #2

1. install the rpm which creates basic user and home
2. initdb with --pgdata=/disk2/data
   Probably using included 'postgresql-12-setup' script

I also link /var/lib/pgsql/data  --> ../15/data so automation can 
reference postgresql.conf without knowing version (legacy stuff).


The install is automated with a bash script which handles several 
options including whether there is a second disk for DB. Scripting the 
install with or without the second disk is straight forward but I'm 
concerned with either scenario causing unforeseen differences.


I don't think there's a benefit to using tablespace here but I have no 
experience with it. The systemd service is configured with a dependency 
on the disk mount so I don't think there are different risks for 
starting postgres with missing data directory.


I've run postgres in both scenarios and not had any issues. I'm 
interested in comments from others on their experience using these or 
other options.


Thanks,

Senor