Bug#461440: libgtk2.0-0: Must not use a symlink for /usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-0

2008-01-18 Thread Loïc Minier
clone 461440 -1
reassign -1 debian-policy 3.7.3.0
stop

On Fri, Jan 18, 2008, Sven Joachim wrote:
 In this version, libgtk2.0-0 no longer has a versioned dependency on
 libgtk2.0-common.  That means that you must not symlink
 /usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-0 to libgtk2.0-common, see policy section 12.3.
 Similarly, /usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-bin must not link to libgtk2.0-0.
 
 When you close this bug, don't forget to delete existing symlinks in
 your preinst scripts.

 Indeed; this is made clear in
 file:///usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/footnotes.html#f83.

 I'd rather have this relaxed in policy; would it be possible to drop
 the strict versionning requirements for symlinks?

 I find the current Gtk dependencies saner than the previous ones which
 complexified upgrades and were problematic on buildds and end user sid
 systems due to arch: all / any version mismatches.  The symlinks are
 useful to save space on e.g. live CDs where /usr/share/doc
 proliferation has a non-negligible cost (some MBs).

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Bug#461440: libgtk2.0-0: Must not use a symlink for /usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-0

2008-01-18 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 04:45:41PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
 clone 461440 -1
 reassign -1 debian-policy 3.7.3.0
 stop
 
 On Fri, Jan 18, 2008, Sven Joachim wrote:
  In this version, libgtk2.0-0 no longer has a versioned dependency on
  libgtk2.0-common.  That means that you must not symlink
  /usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-0 to libgtk2.0-common, see policy section 12.3.
  Similarly, /usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-bin must not link to libgtk2.0-0.
  
  When you close this bug, don't forget to delete existing symlinks in
  your preinst scripts.
 
  Indeed; this is made clear in
  file:///usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/footnotes.html#f83.
 
  I'd rather have this relaxed in policy; would it be possible to drop
  the strict versionning requirements for symlinks?

No, this could cause the copyright file to be inaccurate, in the
event the license change between versions and packages come from a
different versions.

Personnally I would rather mandate that every packages include the
copyright file in the deb. 

There are better way to trim /usr/share/doc for system low on diskspace.

Cheers,
Bill.




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Bug#461440: libgtk2.0-0: Must not use a symlink for /usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-0

2008-01-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I'd rather have this relaxed in policy; would it be possible to drop
  the strict versionning requirements for symlinks?

The reason for the Policy requirement is the copyright file, so I don't
think this can be relaxed without running the risk of getting the legal
material for the package wrong.  Suppose, for instance, that someone had
an old version of one package installed with a different license than the
package providing the /usr/share/doc directory.

  I find the current Gtk dependencies saner than the previous ones which
  complexified upgrades and were problematic on buildds and end user sid
  systems due to arch: all / any version mismatches.  The symlinks are
  useful to save space on e.g. live CDs where /usr/share/doc
  proliferation has a non-negligible cost (some MBs).

The common thing to do in this situation is to ship only the Debian
changelog and the copyright file in the /usr/share/doc directory of the
other package, along with a pointer to whatever directory has the real
documentation.

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Bug#461440: libgtk2.0-0: Must not use a symlink for /usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-0

2008-01-18 Thread Sven Joachim
reopen 461440 
thanks

On 2008-01-18 22:21 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 18, 2008, Russ Allbery wrote:
 The reason for the Policy requirement is the copyright file, so I don't
 think this can be relaxed without running the risk of getting the legal
 material for the package wrong.  Suppose, for instance, that someone had
 an old version of one package installed with a different license than the
 package providing the /usr/share/doc directory.

  Indeed; I thought about the changelog versions mismatches, but didn't
  think about copyright which is more criticial; that said, I would guess
  mismatches would be transient, in sid or when upgrading for example.
  But well, let's not take the risk indeed.

  (closing, thanks)

It seems you closed the wrong bug here, I'm correcting that.

Sven




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Bug#461440: libgtk2.0-0: Must not use a symlink for /usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-0

2008-01-18 Thread Sven Joachim
Package: libgtk2.0-0
Version: 2.12.5-1
Severity: serious

In this version, libgtk2.0-0 no longer has a versioned dependency on
libgtk2.0-common.  That means that you must not symlink
/usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-0 to libgtk2.0-common, see policy section 12.3.
Similarly, /usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-bin must not link to libgtk2.0-0.

When you close this bug, don't forget to delete existing symlinks in
your preinst scripts.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.22.16
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages libgtk2.0-0 depends on:
ii  libatk1.0-0   1.20.0-1   The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii  libc6 2.7-6  GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libcairo2 1.4.14-1   The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii  libcomerr21.40.4-1   common error description library
ii  libcupsys21.3.5-1Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - 
ii  libfontconfig12.5.0-2generic font configuration library
ii  libglib2.0-0  2.14.5-2   The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgnutls13   2.0.4-1the GNU TLS library - runtime libr
ii  libgtk2.0-common  2.12.5-1   Common files for the GTK+ graphica
ii  libjpeg62 6b-14  The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  libkrb53  1.6.dfsg.3~beta1-2 MIT Kerberos runtime libraries
ii  libpango1.0-0 1.18.4-1   Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libpng12-01.2.15~beta5-3 PNG library - runtime
ii  libtiff4  3.8.2-7Tag Image File Format (TIFF) libra
ii  libx11-6  2:1.0.3-7  X11 client-side library
ii  libxcomposite11:0.4.0-1  X11 Composite extension library
ii  libxcursor1   1:1.1.9-1  X cursor management library
ii  libxdamage1   1:1.1.1-3  X11 damaged region extension libra
ii  libxext6  1:1.0.3-2  X11 miscellaneous extension librar
ii  libxfixes31:4.0.3-2  X11 miscellaneous 'fixes' extensio
ii  libxi62:1.1.3-1  X11 Input extension library
ii  libxinerama1  1:1.0.2-1  X11 Xinerama extension library
ii  libxrandr22:1.2.2-1  X11 RandR extension library
ii  libxrender1   1:0.9.4-1  X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  zlib1g1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-9   compression library - runtime

Versions of packages libgtk2.0-0 recommends:
ii  hicolor-icon-theme0.10-1 default fallback theme for FreeDes
ii  libgtk2.0-bin 2.12.5-1   The programs for the GTK+ graphica

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