Re: [ECLIPSE] Vote for project management solution
I don't really care but don't forget to document whatever you choose. Thanks for taking care of Eclipse. Le 17-déc.-08 à 07:44, Pantelis Koukousoulas a écrit : Hello :) We need a project management system (aka bug tracker) to keep track of the tasks, who is doing what and our progress. We seem to have mostly 2 options for that: * An alioth project * A launchpad project I personally like launchpad a bit better due to a friendlier interface and because you can even assign milestones, but I 'm willing to go with whatever the team decides upon. IMHO the most important is to be able to get an account and start working with bugs painlessly and with no questions asked and no paperwork. It seems both the above solutions offer that? What would you prefer / be more comfortable with? Cheers, Pantelis ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers -- Arnaud Vandyck avand...@gmail.com ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Re: [ECLIPSE] Vote for project management solution
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Pantelis Koukousoulas wrote: * An alioth project * A launchpad project I personally like launchpad a bit better due to a friendlier interface and because you can even assign milestones, but I 'm willing to go with whatever the team decides upon. I personally would vote for Alioth to be consistent with my arguing to fix problems (the problem is an outdated Eclipse package in Debian) at the root and thus using infrastructure of this root. But don't count my vote as highly important. I think I clarified my role in this team and I might cope with any VCS for Debian files or links to *.dsc and *.diff.gz files which enable me to work on the packaging. Thanks for picking this topic up Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Re: Eclipse Debian Package
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Pantelis, I would love to take part in helping out with PHP stuff, but unfortunately I'm pretty tied up until about mid-to-end-January. Too much client work, followed by a vacation, followed by too much client work ;-) . In the mean time though, I'll take a look at Phoenix, as well as Eclipse's CVS and send a note if I have any questions. Thanks a lot, - -- Rob Loach http://www.robloach.net Pantelis Koukousoulas wrote: Hi Rob, We may have a job for you already :-) The upstream project from us is the linux-distros project in eclipse.org, currently populated mostly by redhat/fedora guys. They have been most helpful to us and we have every incentive to help them as much as we can as well. Alexander kurtakov, one of the Fedora/linux-distros guys has told me that the thing they need most right now, is someone to make a decent website for the linux-distros project. So, since eclipse sites are in PHP/CSS and since you are our resident PHP expert, I thought to propose this task to you. It is both likely that you are going to do a better job than they will and you are also freeing valuable time for them to work with us on hard packaging problems instead. If you choose to accept this mission, know that the php framework eclipse uses is called Phoenix, it is documented here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Phoenix_Documentation Also quoting Nick Boldt: it's pretty easy to use -- you define attributes on the $Nav object, then dump a bunch of PHP out to the page andit renders your stuff wrapped w/ Phoenix purpleness Finally here are some good locations for copy+paste'ing :-) /cvsroot/org.eclipse/www/gef/ /cvsroot/org.eclipse/www/pdt/ (both at eclipse.org) So, what do you think? Would you be willing to help with this? Cheers, Pantelis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJSS7iYn9qH3fN54QRAgp9AJwLPyNtGyWjUPzydd8NO5y77nt2IgCfXrm0 c+rrop8C3kDTuzeDOJphjYE= =uLYE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Re: [ECLIPSE] Do we need an eclipse-specific policy?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Andreas Tille til...@rki.de wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Pantelis Koukousoulas wrote: Does that mean we need an eclipse policy following debian tradition? IMHO a clear: YES. Noted, anyone else? Without having had a look at it (because of time constraints): I would try to adopt as much as possible and I would repeat my strong recommendation to join linux-distros-...@eclipse.org for discussing this kind of issues. This discussion will eventually involve linux-distros as well, but debianers will have to voice their opinion too/first :-) Apropos repeating: I will definitely not become a strong member of the pkg-java team but I'm willing to help out with *some* packaging stuff and sponsoring packages. My main concern is to help were some grunt work has to be done because I'm definitely not in the position (spare time wise and knowledge wise) to draw strategic decisions - I just know that cooperation with other projects is cruxial if you know you have sparse manpower. This is cool and it was never my expectation that everyone must have an opinion on everything. My intention with all threads starting with [ECLIPSE] is to state all things that IMHO need discussion *as early as possible*, so that everyone's voice will have a chance to be heard instead of trying to decide the last minute. The deadline for deciding on all these subjects is more like july 2009 when 3.5 comes out so there is no rush. In the meantime we can have a working eclipse package, even if not easily maintainable or debian policy compliant, but still better than previous unofficial attempts :-) So, both for Andreas and the rest of the gang: if you see an [ECLIPSE] mail that you don't have the time to answer to, just ignore it for now, but please *do* try to take it into account if you want to submit a patch to me that deals with these subjects. I don't want to merge patches that touch areas that need discussion, without having this discussion in public first. So, for now, please decide on alioth vs launchpad quickly so that we can start filing bugs and get the grunt work that everyone seems to like started :-) Cheers, Pantelis ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Re: [ECLIPSE] Vote for project management solution
Hi I'd vote for launchpad too for the same reasons. I'd be happy too with alioth if it was choosen. Pantelis Koukousoulas a crit: Hello :) We need a project management system (aka bug tracker) to keep track of the tasks, who is doing what and our progress. We seem to have mostly 2 options for that: * An alioth project * A launchpad project I personally like launchpad a bit better due to a friendlier interface and because you can even assign milestones, but I 'm willing to go with whatever the team decides upon. IMHO the most important is to be able to get an account and start working with bugs painlessly and with no questions asked and no paperwork. It seems both the above solutions offer that? What would you prefer / be more comfortable with? Cheers, Pantelis ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
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Re: [ECLIPSE] Do we need an eclipse-specific policy?
* Andreas Tille til...@rki.de [2008-12-17 05:42]: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Pantelis Koukousoulas wrote: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/EclipsePlugins If a debian eclipse policy is needed, what should it contain? Without having had a look at it (because of time constraints): I would try to adopt as much as possible and I would repeat my strong recommendation to join linux-distros-...@eclipse.org for discussing this kind of issues. Thanks Andreas. I would also *really* like to standardize practices and policies across distributions as much as possible. The Fedora guidelines are by no means set in stone so if there are issues we can easily work them out together. As Andreas says, linux-distros-...@eclipse.org is probably a decent place to discuss common guidelines but I can always answer any particular questions offline if someone prefers. Andrew ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
Re: [ECLIPSE] Vote for project management solution
Pantelis Koukousoulas wrote: We need a project management system (aka bug tracker) to keep track of the tasks, who is doing what and our progress. We seem to have mostly 2 options for that: * An alioth project * A launchpad project ... What would you prefer / be more comfortable with? I have no significant experience with either. I've done some bug management in vpnc using Launchpad and found it easy enough to use. I don't think I've ever done anything using alioth, except possibly look at some bug reports that I found via Google. I guess personally, it'd be easier for me to get started if we used Launchpad. That said, I don't know how much I'm going to be contributing, so that's not necessarily a good reason! On the other hand, save for linux-distros, which is clearly aiming to get Eclipse easily packaged for all variants of GNU/Linux, Debian is about as upstream as we can get -- it's top of the line for all those Debian derivatives, obviously -- and I have a gut feeling we should use its tools. It just smells right. That's my £0.02 worth anyway. JT -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
