Re: ITP: libcrystalhd2 -- Library for Broadcom Crystal HD video decoder cards

2010-08-16 Thread Andres Mejia
On Tuesday 10 August 2010 23:38:09 Reinhard Tartler wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 14:39:19 (EDT), Andres Mejia wrote:
  Is there any progress with getting libcrystalhd2 into Debian? I would
  like to help if that's alright.
 
 just curious, is this a driver package? what kind of hardware does it
 support, and how big is the expected userbase?

This is just for packaging the library. Driver is in mainstream kernel as of 
2.6.34 so there's no need for us to package that. Firmware can't be included 
because it's under a non-free license. Here's the firmware license.

FIRMWARE BINARIES ARE DISTRIBUTED UNDER THE FOLLOWING LICENSE -

BINARIES COVERED WITH THIS LICENSE ARE bcm70015fw.bin and bcm70012fw.bin

Copyright 2007-2010 Broadcom Corporation

Redistribution and use in binary forms of this software, without modification, 
are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:

Redistributions must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of 
conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other 
materials provided with the distribution.
Neither the name of Broadcom nor the names of its contributors may be used to 
endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior 
written permission.

THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED “AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, 
INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND 
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL BROADCOM BE 
LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR 
CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES(INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE 
GOODS OR SERVICES;LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) 
HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT 
LIABILITY, OR TORT(INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT 
OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH 
DAMAGE.

Note that redistribution is only allowed in binary form and *without* 
modification. Perhaps it's better for the firmware to be shipped with
firmware-linux-nonfree anyway.

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Re: uploaded first pkg: pd-motex

2010-08-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-16 03:31, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 I'm not a pd expert, but if I install some extensions, I expect to be
 able to use them right away, without having to invoke pd with special
 args. I'm getting the impression that we are not living up to that
 expectation.
 
 You can use them right away the way they are being installed right now.
 Just like in python when you install a library, you still need to tell
 it to import it before using it.  In Pd its similar, but messier.
 There is the [import] and [declare] objects for doing this in the Pd
 patches themselves, and there is the -lib command line option.

and of course you can tell the interpreter to load certain libraries on
startup by the means of a preference system (this is most likely the
most commonly used case).

but it seems like the README.Debian is indeed a bit confusing; maybe
someone with better control of the english language could rephrase it
(ideally somebody with good Pd-knowledge like hans).

the reason why this info is in README.Debian and not in (e.g.) README
is, that upstream's README does not include this information (mea culpa).

the reason why it ought to be mentioned somewhere, is that (upstream)
zexy is special in the way, that is a library consisting of both
binary and interpreter files, and Pd handles these 2 kinds differently.
that's why i make all the fuzz about -path and -lib

mfgasdr
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Bug#588468: vlc should provide correct error message

2010-08-16 Thread Hugues Hiegel
Package: vlc
Version: 1.1.2-1
Severity: normal

Among with the error reported into bug #588468,
vlc displays an error message in the gnome GUI which says
there is nothing to do to correct this problem.

Instead, it should tell the user to install the vlc-plugin-zbvi package.

With best regards,
Hugues HIEGEL

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (900, 'stable'), (100, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.29.1-initramfs (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL set to fr_FR.UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages vlc depends on:
ii  libaa1  1.4p5-38 ascii art library
ii  libc6   2.11.2-2 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libfreetype62.4.0-2  FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii  libfribidi0 0.19.2-1 Free Implementation of the Unicode
ii  libgcc1 1:4.4.4-8GCC support library
ii  libgl1-mesa-glx [libgl1 7.7.1-4  A free implementation of the OpenG
ii  libqtcore4  4:4.6.3-1Qt 4 core module
ii  libqtgui4   4:4.6.3-1Qt 4 GUI module
ii  libsdl-image1.2 1.2.10-2+b1  image loading library for Simple D
ii  libsdl1.2debian 1.2.14-6 Simple DirectMedia Layer
ii  libstdc++6  4.4.4-8  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libtar  1.2.11-6 C library for manipulating tar arc
ii  libvlccore4 1.1.2-1  base library for VLC and its modul
ii  libx11-62:1.3.3-3X11 client-side library
ii  libx11-xcb1 2:1.3.3-3Xlib/XCB interface library
ii  libxcb-keysyms1 0.3.6-1  utility libraries for X C Binding 
ii  libxcb-randr0   1.6-1X C Binding, randr extension
ii  libxcb-shm0 1.6-1X C Binding, shm extension
ii  libxcb-xv0  1.6-1X C Binding, xv extension
ii  libxcb1 1.6-1X C Binding
ii  libxext62:1.1.2-1X11 miscellaneous extension librar
ii  ttf-dejavu-core 2.31-1   Vera font family derivate with add
ii  vlc-nox 1.1.2-1  multimedia player and streamer (wi
ii  zlib1g  1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages vlc recommends:
ii  vlc-plugin-notify 1.1.2-1LibNotify plugin for VLC
ii  vlc-plugin-pulse  1.1.2-1PulseAudio plugin for VLC

Versions of packages vlc suggests:
pn  mozilla-plugin-vlcnone (no description available)
pn  videolan-doc  none (no description available)

Versions of packages vlc-nox depends on:
ii  liba52-0.7.40.7.4-14 library for decoding ATSC A/52 str
ii  libasound2  1.0.23-1 shared library for ALSA applicatio
ii  libass4 0.9.9-1  library for SSA/ASS subtitles rend
ii  libavahi-client30.6.26-1 Avahi client library
ii  libavahi-common30.6.26-1 Avahi common library
ii  libavc1394-00.5.3-1+b2   control IEEE 1394 audio/video devi
ii  libavcodec524:0.5.2-1ffmpeg codec library
ii  libavformat52   4:0.5.2-1ffmpeg file format library
ii  libavutil49 4:0.5.2-1ffmpeg utility library
ii  libc6   2.11.2-2 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libcaca00.99.beta17-1colour ASCII art library
ii  libcddb21.3.2-2  library to access CDDB data - runt
ii  libcdio10   0.81-4   library to read and control CD-ROM
ii  libdbus-1-3 1.2.24-3 simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libdc1394-222.1.2-3  high level programming interface f
ii  libdca0 0.0.5-3  decoding library for DTS Coherent 
ii  libdirac-encoder0   1.0.2-3  open and royalty free high quality
ii  libdvbpsi6  0.1.7-1  library for MPEG TS and DVB PSI ta
ii  libdvdnav4  4.1.3-7  DVD navigation library
ii  libdvdread4 4.1.3-10 library for reading DVDs
ii  libebml00.7.7-3.1access library for the EBML format
ii  libfaad22.7-4freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - 
ii  libflac81.2.1-2+b1   Free Lossless Audio Codec - runtim
ii  libfontconfig1  2.8.0-2.1generic font configuration library
ii  libfreetype62.4.0-2  FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii  libfribidi0 0.19.2-1 Free Implementation of the Unicode
ii  libgcc1 1:4.4.4-8GCC support library
ii  libgcrypt11 1.4.5-2  LGPL Crypto library - runtime libr
ii  libgnutls26 2.8.6-1

Re: Licensing of gmerlin-avdecoder regression tests

2010-08-16 Thread Burkhard Plaum

Hi,

hope this gets through, since I'm not subscribed.

Am 14.08.2010 23:04, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:

Hi Burkhard (cc public Debian multimedia team mailinglist),

I am a Debian developer and recently got involved in the maintainance of
multimedia project packaging.

During a copyright and licensing audit I noticed an oddity of the
headers for regression tests in your gmerlin-avdecoder project: It
contains a copyright and parts of the standard GPL boilerplate, but
lacks the first part actually declaring GPL as the license.

Technically you do not permit redistribution of those tests, which I
suspect was unintentional.

I suggest you adjust the headers of those files for next release of your
project.


Added my standard copyright header to tests/*.c in CVS.



More troublesome, but maybe also more difficult to solve, I discovered
that some source files are licensed as 4-clause BSD which is
incompatible with GPLv2.

These are the files I found containing 4-clause BSD licensing:

lib/os.c (at line 93)
include/bgav_sem.h
lib/base64.c


As IOhannes already mentioned, all stuff except lib/base64.c are
fallbacks for non-Posix systems (mainly windows).

We'll try to get GPLed base64 routines.

Burkhard

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Re: ITP: libcrystalhd2 -- Library for Broadcom Crystal HD video decoder cards

2010-08-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:19:40 (CEST), Andres Mejia wrote:

 On Tuesday 10 August 2010 23:38:09 Reinhard Tartler wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 14:39:19 (EDT), Andres Mejia wrote:
  Is there any progress with getting libcrystalhd2 into Debian? I would
  like to help if that's alright.
 
 just curious, is this a driver package? what kind of hardware does it
 support, and how big is the expected userbase?

 This is just for packaging the library. Driver is in mainstream kernel as of 
 2.6.34 so there's no need for us to package that. Firmware can't be included 
 because it's under a non-free license. Here's the firmware license.

Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.

I think this package makes most sense for our team if at least two
members of our team can actually test and use those cards. This requires
running a 2.6.34 kernel and using this firmware. Otherwise I'm not so sure.


 FIRMWARE BINARIES ARE DISTRIBUTED UNDER THE FOLLOWING LICENSE -

 BINARIES COVERED WITH THIS LICENSE ARE bcm70015fw.bin and bcm70012fw.bin

 Copyright 2007-2010 Broadcom Corporation

 Redistribution and use in binary forms of this software, without 
 modification, 
 are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:

 Redistributions must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of 
 conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other 
 materials provided with the distribution.
 Neither the name of Broadcom nor the names of its contributors may be used to 
 endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior 
 written permission.

 THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED “AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, 
 INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND 
 FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL BROADCOM 
 BE 
 LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR 
 CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES(INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF 
 SUBSTITUTE 
 GOODS OR SERVICES;LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) 
 HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT 
 LIABILITY, OR TORT(INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT 
 OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH 
 DAMAGE.

 Note that redistribution is only allowed in binary form and *without* 
 modification. Perhaps it's better for the firmware to be shipped with
 firmware-linux-nonfree anyway.

Makes sense to me.

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Re: Licensing of gmerlin-avdecoder regression tests

2010-08-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:12:29 (CEST), Burkhard Plaum wrote:


 More troublesome, but maybe also more difficult to solve, I discovered
 that some source files are licensed as 4-clause BSD which is
 incompatible with GPLv2.

 These are the files I found containing 4-clause BSD licensing:

 lib/os.c (at line 93)
 include/bgav_sem.h
 lib/base64.c

 As IOhannes already mentioned, all stuff except lib/base64.c are
 fallbacks for non-Posix systems (mainly windows).

 We'll try to get GPLed base64 routines.

Just a suggestion, the gnulib contains a lot of portability functions
that can be copied into your codebase:

http://www.gnu.org/software/gnulib/MODULES.html#module=base64

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=gnulib.git;a=blob;f=lib/base64.c;h=4939ce749a5e7c84afd286f871582ee30f298c3b;hb=c5728261c324a75f8d23dd7d10cb42dde9420227


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Re: gmerlin-avdecoder redux

2010-08-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 01:12:14AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 21:30 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:


Another little detail, I recall that gmerlin-avdecoder 1.0.3 depends on 
a certain version on gavl, I believe that's 1.1.1 or 1.1.2.  Also, I 
don't quite understand the cdbs files, but there are a bunch of 
dependencies with versions in the Fink package that are probably 
relevant here:


http://fink.cvs.sourceforge.net/fink/dists/10.4/unstable/main/finkinfo/libs/gmerlin-avdecoder1.info?view=markup


Ah, thanks for that reference!

I would like to examine each and every explicitly stated 
build-dependency thoroughly at some point, but haven't gotten that far 
yet.  When I do, above alternative set of build-dependencies are useful 
for a cross-check. :-)



I guess what is relevant about CDBS here is 2 things:

  * debian/control is autogenerated - edit debian/control.in instead
  * cdbs-inherited build-dependencies are auto-resolved

CDBS does not resolve build-dependencies tied to upstream code, only 
e.g. autotools-related packages when autotools.mk is included.


If it was something else about cdbs which puzzled you then please tell, 
and I will try clarify.



Regards,

 - Jonas

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Re: Licensing of gmerlin-avdecoder regression tests

2010-08-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:12:29AM +0200, Burkhard Plaum wrote:

hope this gets through, since I'm not subscribed.


Worked fine (not sure if strings were pulled behind the curtain)



Am 14.08.2010 23:04, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:

Hi Burkhard (cc public Debian multimedia team mailinglist),
I suggest you adjust the headers of [regression tests] for next 
release of your project.


Added my standard copyright header to tests/*.c in CVS.


Good.


More troublesome, but maybe also more difficult to solve, I discovered 
that some source files are licensed as 4-clause BSD which is 
incompatible with GPLv2.


These are the files I found containing 4-clause BSD licensing:

lib/os.c (at line 93)
include/bgav_sem.h
lib/base64.c


As IOhannes already mentioned, all stuff except lib/base64.c are
fallbacks for non-Posix systems (mainly windows).


Ok.

I am unsure on concensus in Debian regarding licensing of *fractions* of 
files.


As I understand it, in principle we are safe if we can ensure that 
4-clause BSD only affects code parts that are not compiled into any of 
the binary code that we redistribute.


Ideal for us (and for other distributors, I guess) would be if those 
4-clause BSD parts was placed in separate files by you upstream.  That 
way we could strip them completely from our redistributed source (as we 
do already with lib/libw32dll and lib/GSM610).  If we should play safe 
with current source, it is technically possible for us to patch away 
problematic file parts during source tarball repackaging, but that is 
ugly, as that blurs what is upstream work and what we hacked on.




We'll try to get GPLed base64 routines.


Good.


Thanks for all your help with this.


 - Jonas

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Bug#593162: marked as done (audacity: Audacity fails to load libavformat)

2010-08-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:39:13PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 09:25:12 (CEST), Aaron Barany wrote:
and the standard squeeze install has 0.5.1.  (which also means that 
the standard squeeze libraries might experience the same problem)


And I've asked you to check this. Until this happens, I'd agree to 
leave this bug closed.


Whoops: I reopened again before above arrived in my inbox.

I will simply leave this bugreport alone for a little while now - 
reopened and all.



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Re: uploaded first pkg: pd-motex

2010-08-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 08:28:05PM -0400, Alexandre Quessy wrote:

Hello,

2010/8/12 Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk:


 2. Release a tarball (with debian subdir stripped)


I just wanted to stress out the fact that the debian directory need to 
be out of the upstream tarball. (and repository) It took me a few week 
to get that part. Once it's done, packaging is a lot easier... :)


Actually, this is not necessarily true any longer.

For Squeeze and newer releases, it is recommended to use the DKPG source 
format 3.0 (quilt), which ignores an upstream debian subdir.  From the 
manpage of (a recent packaging of) dpkg-source:


The debian tarball is extracted on top of the source directory after 
prior removal of any pre-existing debian directory.



It is still the most elegant way to release an upstream tarball without 
redistribution noise IMO, even if Debian and its derivatives now are 
able to suppress it :-)



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Re: Licensing of gmerlin-avdecoder regression tests

2010-08-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-16 13:21, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

 
 As I understand it, in principle we are safe if we can ensure that
 4-clause BSD only affects code parts that are not compiled into any of
 the binary code that we redistribute.
 
 Ideal for us (and for other distributors, I guess) would be if those
 4-clause BSD parts was placed in separate files by you upstream.  That


i have submitted a patch to burkhard (and he has quickly incorporated it
in upstream - thanks again) that does:
- rebase lib/base64.c on a clause-3 BSD licensed version of the file
(the new base is
http://mediatools.cs.ucl.ac.uk/nets/mmedia/browser/common/trunk/src/base64.c,
which is simply a re-licensed (with agreement by the copyright owner)
version of the original file)
- lib/os.c has the BSD-code moved away into lib/os_inet_aton.c (which
can be excluded by us)
- include/bgav_sem.h has the BSD-code moved out into
include/bgav_sem_bsd.h (which can be excluded by us)

so i think the issues are now fixed upstream...


fgmar
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[Thank you] Terminal server/Workstation

2010-08-16 Thread Charles Chisanga
I love debian GNU/Linux because this linux distro after being installed is 
ready for use and play music off-line. This is perfect where people don't have 
internet connectivity. The box installed either with Debian GNU/Linux lenny or 
Debian Edu 5.0.4 will run perfectly well and users/students/pupils can play 
music/videos/programme/ use mysql/postgresql database out the box.

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Re: gmerlin-avdecoder redux

2010-08-16 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 15/08/10 07:13, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:33:51AM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
 On 08/15/2010 09:00 AM, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 21:30:32 (CEST), IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

 Well, the point of symbols file is actually to review the list of
 symbols manually, so automatically updating it really defeats its
 purpose.

 If (and only if) you are really sure that no other package actually
 uses the removed symbols, then it's OK to remove them.

 well, libgmerlin-avdec1 has never been in Debian, so no other package
 can possibly depend on symbols in this package. so i guess, we are
 safe on this side.

 otoh, libgmerlin-avdec1 has been in marillat's debian-multimedia.
 packages that used this package and depend on the symbols, will break.

 how is this normally dealt with?
 
 In my opinion Debian is upstream to Marillats archive, Ubuntu,
 Skolelinux and a lot of others, and if any of those start being
 creative and do things not in Debian, then it is their own headache to
 untangle themselves again if it clashes with what Debian decides to do
 later on.
 
 In other words, it makes sense to me to have it in mind now that we
 happen to know about this issue, but if we cannot solve a clash with a
 downstream distro easily and without carrying odd baggage in the package
 afterwards, then we should let it clash and leave it to downstream to
 solve it at their end.  Perhaps even be nice and inform them that we are
 aware of this clash (but without apologizing - it really is their own
 fault IMO).
 
 ...but that's me.  I can very well imagine others here having different
 opinion, if not about Marillat then about Ubuntu.  We had a recent
 discussion about derivative-specific package dependencies with the
 result that I will keep baggage in the source (but not in binary
 packages) regarding firefox (shipped in Ubuntu but not Debian) using
 dpkg-vendor.

Note that there is a not so slight difference between Marillat's archive
and Ubuntu. Namely, that in this team we have people that work on both
debian and ubuntu (which is why it makes sense to do stuff for ubuntu
too). Marillat does not work with us, and a while ago effectively worked
against us.


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traverso_0.49.2-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED

2010-08-16 Thread Archive Administrator



Accepted:
traverso_0.49.2-1.debian.tar.gz
  to main/t/traverso/traverso_0.49.2-1.debian.tar.gz
traverso_0.49.2-1.dsc
  to main/t/traverso/traverso_0.49.2-1.dsc
traverso_0.49.2-1_i386.deb
  to main/t/traverso/traverso_0.49.2-1_i386.deb
traverso_0.49.2.orig.tar.gz
  to main/t/traverso/traverso_0.49.2.orig.tar.gz


Override entries for your package:
traverso_0.49.2-1.dsc - source sound
traverso_0.49.2-1_i386.deb - optional sound

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Introduction

2010-08-16 Thread Thomas Maass
Hi!
My name is Thomas Maass from Germany.
I am working with Debian several years.
I have started with SuSe 8.0, and came
to Debian with Woody. Since then I stayed
on Debian. Now I want to help.
I'd like to join the Debian multimedia team.
I have created an alioth account and subscribed
to the mailing lists.
I have build several packages for private use,
and I want to give my work to the Debian project.
The first package I'd like to upload is called
clipgrab. It is a GUI application written in QT
to download from several videoportals like Youtube,
MyVideo, Sevenload etc. You can also directly convert
into several videoformats.
I hope, you add me to your group!

Thank you!

Thomas




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Re: gmerlin-avdecoder redux

2010-08-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:32:44AM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:

On 15/08/10 07:13, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:33:51AM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

On 08/15/2010 09:00 AM, Reinhard Tartler wrote:

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 21:30:32 (CEST), IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

Well, the point of symbols file is actually to review the list of 
symbols manually, so automatically updating it really defeats its 
purpose.


If (and only if) you are really sure that no other package actually 
uses the removed symbols, then it's OK to remove them.


well, libgmerlin-avdec1 has never been in Debian, so no other 
package can possibly depend on symbols in this package. so i guess, 
we are safe on this side.


otoh, libgmerlin-avdec1 has been in marillat's debian-multimedia. 
packages that used this package and depend on the symbols, will 
break.


how is this normally dealt with?


In my opinion Debian is upstream to Marillats archive, Ubuntu, 
Skolelinux and a lot of others, and if any of those start being 
creative and do things not in Debian, then it is their own headache 
to untangle themselves again if it clashes with what Debian decides 
to do later on.


In other words, it makes sense to me to have it in mind now that we 
happen to know about this issue, but if we cannot solve a clash with 
a downstream distro easily and without carrying odd baggage in the 
package afterwards, then we should let it clash and leave it to 
downstream to solve it at their end.  Perhaps even be nice and inform 
them that we are aware of this clash (but without apologizing - it 
really is their own fault IMO).


...but that's me.  I can very well imagine others here having 
different opinion, if not about Marillat then about Ubuntu.  We had a 
recent discussion about derivative-specific package dependencies with 
the result that I will keep baggage in the source (but not in binary 
packages) regarding firefox (shipped in Ubuntu but not Debian) 
using dpkg-vendor.


Note that there is a not so slight difference between Marillat's 
archive and Ubuntu. Namely, that in this team we have people that work 
on both debian and ubuntu (which is why it makes sense to do stuff for 
ubuntu too). Marillat does not work with us, and a while ago 
effectively worked against us.


True, we represent multiple distributions here.  This affect what kinds 
of issues we become aware of and is dear to us, and it eases 
tremendously some coordination for some cases where these distributions 
differ.


I welcome this cross-distro collaboration and would love to see even 
more distros joining forces with us!


The nature and scope of our teamwork should however not affect the 
packaging style/quality of our efforts, IMO.


I, too, am involved in devoping derivatives of Debian (Skolelinux in 
particular), yet insist - even when it leads to a larger burden on 
myself as I sometimes then need to some tasks twice - to follow the 
principle of not burdening or entangling upstream with downstream 
diversions.


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Bug#591802: FTBFS on sparc: [po/fr/LC_MESSAGES/csound5.mo] Error -11

2010-08-16 Thread Felipe Sateler
Dear release team,

On 14/08/10 10:31, Felipe Sateler wrote:
 On 06/08/10 14:12, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org (06/08/2010):
 I also just managed to build it on smetana. Looks like the buildd is
 borked.

 What should I do next?

 I guess I'm going to give it back again and again, until it builds…

 I'm open to any ideas, of course.
 
 I don't have any... other than uploading the binary I built on smetana.
 Should I do that?
 
 And I really think this bug is not in csound.

What should I do about this?


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Re: [SCM] faad2 packaging branch, master, updated. debian/2.7-4-5-ga421d73

2010-08-16 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 16/08/10 10:36, fabian-gu...@users.alioth.debian.org wrote:
 The following commit has been merged in the master branch:
 commit a421d733a6b9f24c72326e08bddccdbd5bc0ddf3
 Author: Fabian Greffrath fab...@greffrath.com
 Date:   Mon Aug 16 16:39:32 2010 +0200
 
 Extend file name buffers for longer path names.
 
 diff --git a/debian/patches/path_max.patch b/debian/patches/path_max.patch
 new file mode 100644
 index 000..c606354
 --- /dev/null
 +++ b/debian/patches/path_max.patch
 @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@
 +Description: Extend file name buffers for longer path names.
 +Author: Fabian Greffrath fabian+deb...@greffrath.com
 +Forwarded: me...@audiocoding.com
 +
 +--- faad2.orig/frontend/main.c
  faad2/frontend/main.c
 +@@ -42,6 +42,7 @@
 + #include stdlib.h
 + #include string.h
 + #include getopt.h
 ++#include limits.h
 + 
 + #include neaacdec.h
 + #include mp4ff.h
 +@@ -1107,9 +1108,9 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 + int mp4file = 0;
 + int noGapless = 0;
 + char *fnp;
 +-char aacFileName[255];
 +-char audioFileName[255];
 +-char adtsFileName[255];
 ++char aacFileName[PATH_MAX + 1];
 ++char audioFileName[PATH_MAX + 1];
 ++char adtsFileName[PATH_MAX + 1];

I believe not all archs have PATH_MAX. I'm almost positive that hurd
doesn't have it.

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audacity 1.3.12-5 MIGRATED to testing

2010-08-16 Thread Debian testing watch
FYI: The status of the audacity source package
in Debian's testing distribution has changed.

  Previous version: 1.3.12-4
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jconvolver 0.8.7-2 MIGRATED to testing

2010-08-16 Thread Debian testing watch
FYI: The status of the jconvolver source package
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  Previous version: 0.8.7-1
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Re: [SCM] faad2 packaging branch, master, updated. debian/2.7-4-5-ga421d73

2010-08-16 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:27:14PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:

  +-char aacFileName[255];
  +-char audioFileName[255];
  +-char adtsFileName[255];
  ++char aacFileName[PATH_MAX + 1];
  ++char audioFileName[PATH_MAX + 1];
  ++char adtsFileName[PATH_MAX + 1];
 
 I believe not all archs have PATH_MAX. I'm almost positive that hurd
 doesn't have it.

Exactly.


The common workaround is to dynamically allocate the filename buffers
depending on the actual filename length.

This seems to be a pretty big patch that should be implemented
upstream. As a workaround, one might get along with something like this:

#ifndef PATH_MAX
#define PATH_MAX 1024
#endif

See http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/porting/guidelines.html for
more information.


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qsampler 0.2.2-2 MIGRATED to testing

2010-08-16 Thread Debian testing watch
FYI: The status of the qsampler source package
in Debian's testing distribution has changed.

  Previous version: 0.2.2-1
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[Thank you] Thanks

2010-08-16 Thread Harry Rickards
Thanks everyone for helping to mentor me however stupid the questions and happy 
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2010-08-16 Thread Carlos Alves
Thanks for the effort guys. Really is much appreciated. Words are not enough to 
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Re: uploaded first pkg: pd-motex

2010-08-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 09:38 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 On 2010-08-16 03:31, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
  I'm not a pd expert, but if I install some extensions, I expect to be
  able to use them right away, without having to invoke pd with special
  args. I'm getting the impression that we are not living up to that
  expectation.
  
  You can use them right away the way they are being installed right now.
  Just like in python when you install a library, you still need to tell
  it to import it before using it.  In Pd its similar, but messier.
  There is the [import] and [declare] objects for doing this in the Pd
  patches themselves, and there is the -lib command line option.
 
 and of course you can tell the interpreter to load certain libraries on
 startup by the means of a preference system (this is most likely the
 most commonly used case).
 
 but it seems like the README.Debian is indeed a bit confusing; maybe
 someone with better control of the english language could rephrase it
 (ideally somebody with good Pd-knowledge like hans).
 
 the reason why this info is in README.Debian and not in (e.g.) README
 is, that upstream's README does not include this information (mea culpa).
 
 the reason why it ought to be mentioned somewhere, is that (upstream)
 zexy is special in the way, that is a library consisting of both
 binary and interpreter files, and Pd handles these 2 kinds differently.
 that's why i make all the fuzz about -path and -lib
 
 mfgasdr
 IOhannes

I don't see why this is Debian-specific though.  It really is an
upstream issue, this should be documented as part of zexy, not Debian.

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Re: uploaded first pkg: pd-motex

2010-08-16 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 16/08/10 14:24, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 09:38 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 On 2010-08-16 03:31, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 I'm not a pd expert, but if I install some extensions, I expect to be
 able to use them right away, without having to invoke pd with special
 args. I'm getting the impression that we are not living up to that
 expectation.

 You can use them right away the way they are being installed right now.
 Just like in python when you install a library, you still need to tell
 it to import it before using it.  In Pd its similar, but messier.
 There is the [import] and [declare] objects for doing this in the Pd
 patches themselves, and there is the -lib command line option.

 and of course you can tell the interpreter to load certain libraries on
 startup by the means of a preference system (this is most likely the
 most commonly used case).

 but it seems like the README.Debian is indeed a bit confusing; maybe
 someone with better control of the english language could rephrase it
 (ideally somebody with good Pd-knowledge like hans).

 the reason why this info is in README.Debian and not in (e.g.) README
 is, that upstream's README does not include this information (mea culpa).

 the reason why it ought to be mentioned somewhere, is that (upstream)
 zexy is special in the way, that is a library consisting of both
 binary and interpreter files, and Pd handles these 2 kinds differently.
 that's why i make all the fuzz about -path and -lib

 
 I don't see why this is Debian-specific though.  It really is an
 upstream issue, this should be documented as part of zexy, not Debian.

I think I understand now, and I agree with Hans. That documentation
should go upstream, not in a debian readme.

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Bug#593162: marked as done (audacity: Audacity fails to load libavformat)

2010-08-16 Thread Aaron Barany
 Well, for exactly reasons like this, I find installing libraries from
 3rd party repositories problematic at least.

I agree it's not ideal, but unfortunately there's some functionality that
isn't present in the main repositories. (for example, a build of gtkpod that
supports AAC)

 And I've asked you to check this. Until this happens, I'd agree to leave
 this bug closed.
 It would be great if you could help with filling
 the gaps.

Since that's the case, I can try both the testing and experimental versions,
but most likely it will be this weekend or the next when I have the time.

Aaron

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Reinhard Tartler siret...@tauware.dewrote:

 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 09:25:12 (CEST), Aaron Barany wrote:

  Just to provide a bit more information, I'm using debian-multimedia,
 which
  is why my ffmpeg libraries are newer than what's in the standard debian
  repositories. This thread on Audacity forums (
  http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=18t=28048) documents the
  problem, and also includes a patch. According to that thread, the change
  appeared in ffmpeg 0.5.1. If I'm reading the version numbers correctly,
 both
  debian-multimedia and experimental have ffmpeg 0.6 (with slightly newer
  version in debian-multimedia),

 the package distributed by debian-multimedia is not based on ffmpeg 0.6,
 it is just horribly and confusingly named. It is based on SVN trunk,
 were a lot of development is going on, and such compatibility bugs still
 need to be found and ironed out. Christian Marillat is obviously not
 helping with that at all.

  and the standard squeeze install has 0.5.1.  (which also means that
  the standard squeeze libraries might experience the same problem)

 And I've asked you to check this. Until this happens, I'd agree to leave
 this bug closed.

  I would prefer not to try to install a different version of the libraries
  since I don't have any experience working with different repositories
 like
  that, especially since I would have to deal with the dependencies.

 Well, for exactly reasons like this, I find installing libraries from
 3rd party repositories problematic at least.

  (I'm mainly worried about getting everything back together again when
  I'm done...) If somebody could try it on a standard testing and/or
  experimental install that would be great.

 Well, you've reported an imcomplete bug, and I've told you what
 information is missing. It would be great if you could help with filling
 the gaps.

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Re: gmerlin-avdecoder redux

2010-08-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-12 19:33, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 Do you think you could do the upstream-tarball.mk thing to the
 gmerlin-avdecoder package?  The folders in question are:
 
 lib/libwin32dll
 lib/GSM610


regarding the lib/GSM610 folder, on the gmerlin list people don't see
why it shouldn't be compatible with GPL:

On 2010-08-16 16:47, Romain Beauxis wrote:
 Le lundi 16 août 2010 07:36:05, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
 the Debian packages currently
 - exclude the libw32dll stuff (see other post)
 - exclude the GSM610stuff (see other post)


 I fail to see why this piece of code had to be removed. Its licence is:
 Copyright 1992, 1993, 1994 by Jutta Degener and Carsten Bormann,
 Technische Universitaet Berlin

 Any use of this software is permitted provided that this notice is not
 removed and that neither the authors nor the Technische Universitaet
Berlin
 are deemed to have made any representations as to the suitability of this
 software for any purpose nor are held responsible for any defects of
 this software.  THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY FOR THIS SOFTWARE.

 As a matter of courtesy, the authors request to be informed about uses
 this software has found, about bugs in this software, and about any
 improvements that may be of general interest.

 It DOES seem to be DFSG-compatible. This code is already present in
several
 other packages with the same licence. See gnuradio for instance.



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Bug#593162: marked as done (audacity: Audacity fails to load libavformat)

2010-08-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 20:45:45 (CEST), Aaron Barany wrote:

 Well, for exactly reasons like this, I find installing libraries from
 3rd party repositories problematic at least.

 I agree it's not ideal, but unfortunately there's some functionality that
 isn't present in the main repositories. (for example, a build of gtkpod that
 supports AAC)

If this requires faac, then right, we don't support non-free stuff and
actually do care for licensing issues.

 And I've asked you to check this. Until this happens, I'd agree to
 leave this bug closed.  It would be great if you could help with
 filling the gaps.

 Since that's the case, I can try both the testing and experimental versions,
 but most likely it will be this weekend or the next when I have the time.

Thanks!

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Re: uploaded first pkg: pd-motex

2010-08-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 14:30 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:
 On 16/08/10 14:24, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
  On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 09:38 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
  On 2010-08-16 03:31, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
  I'm not a pd expert, but if I install some extensions, I expect to be
  able to use them right away, without having to invoke pd with special
  args. I'm getting the impression that we are not living up to that
  expectation.
 
  You can use them right away the way they are being installed right now.
  Just like in python when you install a library, you still need to tell
  it to import it before using it.  In Pd its similar, but messier.
  There is the [import] and [declare] objects for doing this in the Pd
  patches themselves, and there is the -lib command line option.
 
  and of course you can tell the interpreter to load certain libraries on
  startup by the means of a preference system (this is most likely the
  most commonly used case).
 
  but it seems like the README.Debian is indeed a bit confusing; maybe
  someone with better control of the english language could rephrase it
  (ideally somebody with good Pd-knowledge like hans).
 
  the reason why this info is in README.Debian and not in (e.g.) README
  is, that upstream's README does not include this information (mea culpa).
 
  the reason why it ought to be mentioned somewhere, is that (upstream)
  zexy is special in the way, that is a library consisting of both
  binary and interpreter files, and Pd handles these 2 kinds differently.
  that's why i make all the fuzz about -path and -lib
 
  
  I don't see why this is Debian-specific though.  It really is an
  upstream issue, this should be documented as part of zexy, not Debian.
 
 I think I understand now, and I agree with Hans. That documentation
 should go upstream, not in a debian readme.

It seems that this thread gets easily hijacked ;)  Returning to the
Subject, I think pd-motex is ready for upload, thanks all for the
feedback!

Also, I think it would be quite helpful if people change the subject
when they hijack threads.  That's my two bits...

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Re: uploaded first pkg: pd-motex

2010-08-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Aug 16, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote:


On 16/08/10 17:47, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


It seems that this thread gets easily hijacked ;)  Returning to the
Subject, I think pd-motex is ready for upload, thanks all for the
feedback!


How are you editing debian/changelog? The timestamp is old!


Ah, oops, I forgot dch.  I've been using emacs.  The changelog is  
still something I am somewhat confused by.  I get the idea of course,  
but the not the specifics.  I was under the impression that pkg- 
multimedia uses git-dch to automatically generate the changelog, so I  
stopped editing it.  Also, since this package hasn't been released  
yet, should I still be adding things to the changelog?



Also, there is no need to ship the GPL text in the package. It seems
like no patch or file tries to read the license, so no need to ship it
(we already have the copyright file).



The LICENSE.txt file is part of the standard library format.



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Re: uploaded first pkg: pd-motex

2010-08-16 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 16/08/10 19:03, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 On Aug 16, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote:
 
 On 16/08/10 17:47, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 It seems that this thread gets easily hijacked ;)  Returning to the
 Subject, I think pd-motex is ready for upload, thanks all for the
 feedback!

 How are you editing debian/changelog? The timestamp is old!
 
 Ah, oops, I forgot dch.  I've been using emacs.  The changelog is still
 something I am somewhat confused by.  I get the idea of course, but the
 not the specifics.  I was under the impression that pkg-multimedia uses
 git-dch to automatically generate the changelog, so I stopped editing
 it.  Also, since this package hasn't been released yet, should I still
 be adding things to the changelog?

Well, it depends on how many things you had to do. In this case, it
appears that not much (other than fixing minor mistakes not found in a
previous release). But you should still run dch. Please read the
manpage, specially the section about the release heuristics. I use the
changelog one, which seems to work well for our workflow.

 
 Also, there is no need to ship the GPL text in the package. It seems
 like no patch or file tries to read the license, so no need to ship it
 (we already have the copyright file).
 
 
 The LICENSE.txt file is part of the standard library format.
 

Does anything break if we don't ship it?

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Re: uploaded first pkg: pd-motex

2010-08-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Aug 16, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote:


On 16/08/10 19:03, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


On Aug 16, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote:


On 16/08/10 17:47, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


It seems that this thread gets easily hijacked ;)  Returning to the
Subject, I think pd-motex is ready for upload, thanks all for the
feedback!


How are you editing debian/changelog? The timestamp is old!


Ah, oops, I forgot dch.  I've been using emacs.  The changelog is  
still
something I am somewhat confused by.  I get the idea of course, but  
the
not the specifics.  I was under the impression that pkg-multimedia  
uses

git-dch to automatically generate the changelog, so I stopped editing
it.  Also, since this package hasn't been released yet, should I  
still

be adding things to the changelog?


Well, it depends on how many things you had to do. In this case, it
appears that not much (other than fixing minor mistakes not found in a
previous release). But you should still run dch. Please read the
manpage, specially the section about the release heuristics. I use the
changelog one, which seems to work well for our workflow.


Ok makes sense.  I updated the timestamp with dch and pushed the  
commit.  The last question for me here is what should go into the  
changelog for this initial release?



Also, there is no need to ship the GPL text in the package. It seems
like no patch or file tries to read the license, so no need to  
ship it

(we already have the copyright file).



The LICENSE.txt file is part of the standard library format.



Does anything break if we don't ship it?



On all other platforms/distros it'll have that file there, and its  
visible using the library browser, so it would be only on Debian that  
you didn't see the license file.  I think that sounds like minor but  
actual breakage.


.hc



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Re: uploaded first pkg: pd-motex

2010-08-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 01:03:57 (CEST), Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 How are you editing debian/changelog? The timestamp is old!

 Ah, oops, I forgot dch.  I've been using emacs. 

You might want to install the 'dpkg-dev-el' package, which features
debian-changelog-mode. Here, you can easily update the timestamp with
C-c C-f. See the mode documentation for details.

 The changelog is still something I am somewhat confused by.  I get the
 idea of course, but the not the specifics.  I was under the impression
 that pkg- multimedia uses git-dch to automatically generate the
 changelog, so I stopped editing it.  Also, since this package hasn't
 been released yet, should I still be adding things to the changelog?

I'm using git-dch to get a template, but most of the time, I end up fine
tuning it with debian-changelog-mode.

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Re: uploaded first pkg: pd-motex

2010-08-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 00:22:25 (CEST), Felipe Sateler wrote:

 On 16/08/10 17:47, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 It seems that this thread gets easily hijacked ;)  Returning to the
 Subject, I think pd-motex is ready for upload, thanks all for the
 feedback!

 How are you editing debian/changelog? The timestamp is old!

 Also, there is no need to ship the GPL text in the package. It seems
 like no patch or file tries to read the license, so no need to ship it
 (we already have the copyright file).

Uh, why do you want to have the LICENSE.txt file removed from the
upstream tarball? That seems rather blunt to me.

However, It is indeed formatted in an unusual way and lacks the preamble,
as well as the section How to Apply These Terms to Your New Programs.
Hans, maybe you can include the full text of the GPL-2 as found in
/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 in a file named 'COPYING' in the next
release tarball? That's what the FSF commonly does.


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