Bug#681187: supercollider-emacs: unowned files after purge (policy 6.8, 10.8)

2012-07-11 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Package: supercollider-emacs
Version: 1:3.5.3~repack-1
Severity: important
User: debian...@lists.debian.org
Usertags: piuparts

Hi,

during a test with piuparts I noticed your package left unowned files on
the system after purge, which is a violation of policy 6.8 (or 10.8):

http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html#s-removedetails

Filing this as important as having a piuparts clean archive is a release
goal since lenny.

From the attached log (scroll to the bottom...):

1m24.2s ERROR: FAIL: Package purging left files on system:
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/  owned by: emacs23-common
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/not owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-browser.elc  not owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-dev.elc  not owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-document.elc not 
owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-help.elc not owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-interp.elc   not owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-keys.elc not owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-language.elc not 
owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-menu.elc not owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-minor-mode.elc   not 
owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-mode.elc not owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-server.elc   not owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-util.elc not owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-vars.elc not owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang-widgets.elc  not owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/sclang.elc  not owned
  /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/SuperCollider/tree-widget.elc not owned


cheers,

Andreas


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Bug#681136: libavcodec-extra-53: Cannot install libavcodec-extra-53 without losing kde

2012-07-11 Thread Fabian Greffrath

Am 10.07.2012 22:47, schrieb Graham Cobb:

I speculate that some kde package has a dependency on libavcodec53.  Should
libavcodec-extra-53 provide libavcodec53?


Packages in Debian should always have alternative dependdencied on 
both, i.e. libavcodec53| libavcodec-extra-53. Do you have packages 
from other repositories installed?


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Fixing #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy

2012-07-11 Thread Mehdi Dogguy

Hi,

We would like to fix #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy. Unfortunately, we
are not able to accept supercollider/1:3.5.2-1 from Unstable since the
changes are quite large. Usually, we ask the maintainer to prepare an
upload based on testing's source package and targeting
testing-proposed-updates. But for this specific case, I'm not sure what
would the best step forward as you seem not interested in
fixing #674386 (cf. [1]).

Since the package has not been part of any previous stable release, one 
solution could be to remove this package from testing. What do you think?


Regards,

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=674386#10

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Re: Fixing #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy

2012-07-11 Thread Fabian Greffrath

Am 11.07.2012 14:20, schrieb Mehdi Dogguy:

We would like to fix #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy. Unfortunately, we
are not able to accept supercollider/1:3.5.2-1 from Unstable since the
changes are quite large. Usually, we ask the maintainer to prepare an
upload based on testing's source package and targeting
testing-proposed-updates. But for this specific case, I'm not sure what
would the best step forward as you seem not interested in
fixing #674386 (cf. [1]).


From a quick glance it looks like fixing #674386 would be as easy as 
doing 's/DEB_BUILDDIR/DEB_SRCDIR/' in debian/rules.


 - Fabian

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Re: review qemplayer

2012-07-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2012-07-10 18:06, wbrana wrote:
 On 7/9/12, wbrana wbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 I managed temporary to change limits from command line, but I/O 
 priority can't be increased x@debian:~$ mplayer_nice cant set I/O
 priority MPlayer svn r34540 (Debian), built with gcc-4.7 (C)
 2000-2012 MPlayer Team
 
 I submitted kernel bug 
 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44371 It seems limits
 can't be used. I have got reply: CAP_SYS_ADMIN is required to set
 rt classes

btw, why do you need mplayer_nice in the first place?
afaiu, qemplayer is an qt frontend to mplayer, and does not need
realtime I/O priorities any more than mplayer itself.

looking at the code of qemplayer, i also see that the program will
indeed work without mplayer_nice installed.

so one possibility would be to drop the qemplayer_nice binary from the
qemplayer binary package.

mplayer_nice could be provided by a separate binary package
(hopefully with some non-suid solution)

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Re: Fixing #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy

2012-07-11 Thread Dan S
Hi -

It's easy to fix #654506 because supercollider never used waf so the
file can simply be deleted in repacking a ~dfsg version, and build
will still work fine.

I don't want to work on #674386 because working on the scons build is
a waste of time when we've junked it long ago, and the bug is
apparently caused by a limitation in dh's handling of scons, i.e. not
code I have any expertise in. Does anyone have a patch that might fix
it? If so then maybe we can go for it.

Dan


2012/7/11 Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org:
 Hi,

 We would like to fix #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy. Unfortunately, we
 are not able to accept supercollider/1:3.5.2-1 from Unstable since the
 changes are quite large. Usually, we ask the maintainer to prepare an
 upload based on testing's source package and targeting
 testing-proposed-updates. But for this specific case, I'm not sure what
 would the best step forward as you seem not interested in
 fixing #674386 (cf. [1]).

 Since the package has not been part of any previous stable release, one
 solution could be to remove this package from testing. What do you think?

 Regards,

 [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=674386#10

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Re: Fixing #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy

2012-07-11 Thread Dan S
2012/7/11 Fabian Greffrath fab...@greffrath.com:
 Am 11.07.2012 14:20, schrieb Mehdi Dogguy:

 We would like to fix #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy. Unfortunately, we
 are not able to accept supercollider/1:3.5.2-1 from Unstable since the
 changes are quite large. Usually, we ask the maintainer to prepare an
 upload based on testing's source package and targeting
 testing-proposed-updates. But for this specific case, I'm not sure what
 would the best step forward as you seem not interested in
 fixing #674386 (cf. [1]).


 From a quick glance it looks like fixing #674386 would be as easy as doing
 's/DEB_BUILDDIR/DEB_SRCDIR/' in debian/rules.

Aha thanks - will try this later.

Dan

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Re: Fixing #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy

2012-07-11 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org wrote:
 Hi,

 We would like to fix #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy. Unfortunately, we
 are not able to accept supercollider/1:3.5.2-1 from Unstable since the
 changes are quite large.

I think you mean 1:3.5.3~repack-1? That is what's currently in
unstable, and 1:3.5.2-1 was uploaded before the freeze. Unfortunately,
it couldn't migrate because it failed to build on non-x86 archs. We
are currently working on fixing that. So, in a way, the changes are
not that large ;).

I had planned to mail d-r after we got the last round of fixes ready.
Is there a chance we can convince you to let 3.5.3 migrate to testing?


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Re: Supercollider fails to build

2012-07-11 Thread Dan S
2012/7/11 Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org:
 On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Dan S danstowell+de...@gmail.com wrote:

 A fix for issue 2 will be along in a week or two, after the developer
 has integrated an updated source file.

 Any temporary fix we can apply? The longer we take to fix this, the
 less likely the release managers are going to give sc an exception.


 For issue 3, we don't have an ia64 to test on, but it looks to me like
 the attached patch might fix it. Shall I push it?

 Maybe it is better to do it the other way around. Special case the
 cases that are known to work and enable it?

True

 BTW, any reason you replied to me personally instead of the list?

I was convinced you'd emailed offlist - but I was wrong. I'm
on-listing this now.

Dan

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Re: Fixing #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy

2012-07-11 Thread Mehdi Dogguy

On 11/07/12 16:01, Felipe Sateler wrote:

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Mehdi Dogguyme...@dogguy.org
wrote:

Hi,

We would like to fix #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy. Unfortunately,
we are not able to accept supercollider/1:3.5.2-1 from Unstable
since the changes are quite large.


I think you mean 1:3.5.3~repack-1?


Yes, sorry. It was a bad copy/paste :/


That is what's currently in unstable, and 1:3.5.2-1 was uploaded
before the freeze. Unfortunately, it couldn't migrate because it
failed to build on non-x86 archs. We are currently working on fixing
that. So, in a way, the changes are not that large ;).



We don't seem to have the same definition of large. For this specific
case, the changes between the unblocked version and sid's current
version look like:

$ debdiff supercollider_3.5.2-1.dsc supercollider_3.5.3~repack-1.dsc \
  | diffstat | tail -n1
 3040 files changed, 5266 insertions(+), 581639 deletions(-)

This pretty looks as large. Ignoring the bits that were deleted when
repacking, the debian/ directory, etc… this leads us to:

 53 files changed, 746 insertions(+), 701 deletions(-)

which is nicer indeed but still qualifies as large.

Why did you import 3.5.3 instead of working on fixing 3.5.2? (I'm not
sure it is relevant now but that might help us to understand the
situation better).


I had planned to mail d-r after we got the last round of fixes ready.
Is there a chance we can convince you to let 3.5.3 migrate to
testing?



We would prefer targeted fixes based on the version of testing.

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hiii

2012-07-11 Thread aminataawad12

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Re: review qemplayer

2012-07-11 Thread wbrana
 btw, why do you need mplayer_nice in the first place?
 afaiu, qemplayer is an qt frontend to mplayer, and does not need
 realtime I/O priorities any more than mplayer itself.
mplayer_nice is key feature of qemplayer.
Realtime I/O priority for MPlayer is needed when some other
application is fully loading hard drive.
It prevents empty buffer in MPlayer.
Nice -20 ensures that MPlayer always gets needed CPU time if some
other application fully loading CPU.

 mplayer_nice could be provided by a separate binary package
I will consider it.

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Re: Fixing #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy

2012-07-11 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org wrote:
 On 11/07/12 16:01, Felipe Sateler wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Mehdi Dogguyme...@dogguy.org
 wrote:

 Hi,

 We would like to fix #654506 and #674386 in Wheezy. Unfortunately,
 we are not able to accept supercollider/1:3.5.2-1 from Unstable
 since the changes are quite large.


 I think you mean 1:3.5.3~repack-1?


 Yes, sorry. It was a bad copy/paste :/


 That is what's currently in unstable, and 1:3.5.2-1 was uploaded
 before the freeze. Unfortunately, it couldn't migrate because it
 failed to build on non-x86 archs. We are currently working on fixing
 that. So, in a way, the changes are not that large ;).


 We don't seem to have the same definition of large. For this specific
 case, the changes between the unblocked version and sid's current
 version look like:

 $ debdiff supercollider_3.5.2-1.dsc supercollider_3.5.3~repack-1.dsc \
   | diffstat | tail -n1
  3040 files changed, 5266 insertions(+), 581639 deletions(-)

 This pretty looks as large. Ignoring the bits that were deleted when
 repacking, the debian/ directory, etc… this leads us to:

  53 files changed, 746 insertions(+), 701 deletions(-)

 which is nicer indeed but still qualifies as large.

I made some local git branches with the upstream source of 3.5.2 and
3.5.3, with patches applied.

Updating to 3.5.3 allowed us to drop all the 3.5.2 patches:
$ git show --stat  3.5.2-withpatches'^' | tail -1
 7 files changed, 135 insertions(+), 100 deletions(-)

So, taking into account this, the stat becomes:

$ git diff 3.5.2-withpatches..3.5.3-withpatches --stat \
   | tail -1
 52 files changed, 631 insertions(+), 198 deletions(-)


However, a big chunk of that is documentation updates:

$ git diff 3.5.2-withpatches..3.5.3-withpatches --stat \
   -- HelpSource/| tail -1
 18 files changed, 439 insertions(+), 131 deletions(-)

That leaves as with a diff of:
 34 files changed, 192 insertions(+), 67 deletions(-)

Of that, most of it is bugfixes, and an un-deprecation of a few methods.



 Why did you import 3.5.3 instead of working on fixing 3.5.2? (I'm not
 sure it is relevant now but that might help us to understand the
 situation better).

Mostly because it allowed us to drop the patches we had. Also,
upstreams release management seems sane enough, commits on the 3.5
branch are mostly cherry-picked from the master branch plus
documentation fixes.




 I had planned to mail d-r after we got the last round of fixes ready.
 Is there a chance we can convince you to let 3.5.3 migrate to
 testing?


 We would prefer targeted fixes based on the version of testing.

I understand. But on the other hand, we would prefer shipping
upstreams latest version, which is why I asked if there was a chance
we could convince you.
In particular, since 3.5 sc has a new Qt based widget system, and
debian does not have any other sc widget system (AFAICT, they were all
third party), wheezy users would not be able to build SC GUIs.
Dan can probably tell of more advantages of 3.5 over 3.4.
That's why I asked if there was a chance that we could convince you. I
wasn't asking if we had clearance yet.


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Re: review qemplayer

2012-07-11 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 6:11 PM, wbrana wbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 btw, why do you need mplayer_nice in the first place?
 afaiu, qemplayer is an qt frontend to mplayer, and does not need
 realtime I/O priorities any more than mplayer itself.
 mplayer_nice is key feature of qemplayer.
 Realtime I/O priority for MPlayer is needed when some other
 application is fully loading hard drive.
 It prevents empty buffer in MPlayer.

Why can't this be properly solved in mplayer2/mplayer instead of in
some frontend?

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Re: review qemplayer

2012-07-11 Thread wbrana
On 7/11/12, Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 6:11 PM, wbrana wbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 mplayer_nice is key feature of qemplayer.
 Realtime I/O priority for MPlayer is needed when some other
 application is fully loading hard drive.
 It prevents empty buffer in MPlayer.

 Why can't this be properly solved in mplayer2/mplayer instead of in
 some frontend?

Try to ask MPlayer developers. I'm not one of them.

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ITA: freej frei0r

2012-07-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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hi all,

i followed some discussion on the frei0r (minimalist api for free
video effects) mailinglist [1], that indicated that the current frei0r
packages in debian are horribly out of date.

given that the current maintainer is willing to hand over the package
(and another-one freej, a cmdline VC application) (see below), i
would like to maintain those packages under the umbrella of the
pkg-multimedia-team.

it seems that jonas already contacted luca a while ago about frei0r,
so i think there is already a team :-)


what do you think?

fgamsdr
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[1] http://lists.dyne.org/lurker/thread/20120710.171208.0fef7c01.en.html


On 2012-07-11 18:57, forum::für::umläute wrote:
 On 2012-07-11 18:48, Luca Bigliardi wrote:
 Hi Iohannes,
 
 
 thanks for the quick response
 
 
 I'll be happy if frei0r and freej packages will get a new
 maintainer.
 
 Please note that around Februrary Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk
 asked to jump in and work on frei0r packages. You might want to
 get in contact with him to avoid duplicating efforts.
 
 ah that's cool. i'm working together with jonas on a number of
 pkg-multimedia packages, so bundling our efforts rather than
 duplicating them should be natural.
 
 
 i imported the history of the two packages using git-import-dscs
 (we are using git for packaging), but if you have a vcs for the
 packaging on which to build, that would be even better.
 
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Re: ITA: freej frei0r

2012-07-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-07-11 at 07:03pm, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 i followed some discussion on the frei0r (minimalist api for free 
 video effects) mailinglist [1], that indicated that the current frei0r 
 packages in debian are horribly out of date.
 
 given that the current maintainer is willing to hand over the package 
 (and another-one freej, a cmdline VC application) (see below), i 
 would like to maintain those packages under the umbrella of the 
 pkg-multimedia-team.
 
 it seems that jonas already contacted luca a while ago about frei0r, 
 so i think there is already a team :-)
 
 
 what do you think?

Yesss!

I have a git for frei0r (from my NMU in february).  I'll dust it off and 
push it!

I also look at freej a while back (if I recall correctly I even looked 
at it before it was put into Debian).

I'd be happy to work with you on those, IOhannes.


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Bug#681136: libavcodec-extra-53: Cannot install libavcodec-extra-53 without losing kde

2012-07-11 Thread Graham Cobb
On Wednesday 11 July 2012 10:20:37 Fabian Greffrath wrote:
 Packages in Debian should always have alternative dependdencied on
 both, i.e. libavcodec53| libavcodec-extra-53. Do you have packages
 from other repositories installed?

The problem appears to have been that I had not succeeded in removing all 
Marillat's packages, despite trying to make sure I had before reporting the 
bug.  In particular, I still had vlc packages installed which were preventing 
phonon-backend-vlc from upgrading. 

After reinstalling all the vlc (and xine) related packages I was able to 
install libavcodec-extra-53.

I still think it would have been easier if libavcodec-extra-53 had either 
Provides: libavcodec53 or, even better, really was just extras without 
replacing libavcodec53 at all.  However, I am sure you have good reasons for 
this packaging.



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Bug#681136: Should libavcodec-extra-53 Provides: libavcodec53? [Was: Re: Bug#681136: libavcodec-extra-53: Cannot install libavcodec-extra-53 without losing kde]

2012-07-11 Thread Fabian Greffrath
 The problem appears to have been that I had not succeeded in removing all
 Marillat's packages, despite trying to make sure I had before reporting

I suspected this. :)

 After reinstalling all the vlc (and xine) related packages I was able to
 install libavcodec-extra-53.

At least.

 I still think it would have been easier if libavcodec-extra-53 had either
 Provides: libavcodec53 or, even better, really was just extras without

I don't see any reason against this approach but leave it up for
discussion with the other team members (then this big should get closed).

 replacing libavcodec53 at all.  However, I am sure you have good reasons
 for this packaging.

Unfortunately, it is not possible to package the extra parts alone, so
both libraries need to replace each other.

 - Fabian





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Newcomer to vlc

2012-07-11 Thread Hor Jiun Shyong

Hi Guys,

I am Hor Jiun Shyong here. I just joined the vlc package mailing list. I 
would like to offer my assistance for any help needed for the package. 
Many thanks.


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