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Hello, I hope you are well. I was doing some research on your industry and I landed on your website. The thing is, it was on Page 2 of Google! I had a look at some of the other businesses who are currently ranked on Page 1 and I truly believe you have a better website and a better brand. The stats show that only 4% of people go to page 2...In other words this no man's land. Long story short, I have created a Website Report which addresses all of the technical and web errors on your website that is stopping you from ranking on PAGE-1. I am happy to send you this website report. All I want is the chance to talk to you and discuss THE WEBSITE REPORT in greater detail and see if there is a good fit for us to work together. What do you think? Looking forward to chatting Regards, Mellisa Senior SEO Advisor ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Brauchen Sie Geschäft-Darlehen, Privatkredit, landwirtschaftliche Darlehen oder Projektfinanzierung? Wir haben gute Nachrichten für Sie. Für weitere Informationen kontaktieren Sie bitte: eloan.infoserv...@gmail.com Do you need business loan, personal loan, agricultural loan or project funding? We have good news for you. For more info, please Contact: eloan.infoserv...@gmail.comp.R.O ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Brauchen Sie Geschäft-Darlehen, Privatkredit, landwirtschaftliche Darlehen oder Projektfinanzierung? Wir haben gute Nachrichten für Sie. Für weitere Informationen kontaktieren Sie bitte: eloan.infoserv...@gmail.com Do you need business loan, personal loan, agricultural loan or project funding? We have good news for you. For more info, please Contact: eloan.infoserv...@gmail.comp.R.O ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Apagado de correo electrónico
Usted no será capaz de acceder a su cuenta de correo electrónico si no actualiza dentro de las 24 horas. Este aviso es para informarle de que actualmente estamos cerraríamos cuenta de correo electrónico de usuarios inactivos. Y le hemos enviado varios avisos para actualizar su correo electrónico sin respuesta. Actualización de inmediato. http://www.help-correo.com/ ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
IN TOSCANA NEL CHIANTI VENDO Azienda agricola con casali ristrutturati
*/ /* */ /** **IN TOSCANA NEL CHIANTI**/ /* * VENDO AZIENDA AGRICOLA * * CON CASALI RISTRUTTURATI * * * *Ubicata in provincia di Arezzo nel Chianti Colli Aretini, * *con attività di allevamento, maneggio e pensione cavalli, * * **Tel. 055998182** - **Fax 055998182* *i...@ipoggioliranch.com mailto:i...@ipoggioliranch.com ** ipoggiolira...@virgilio.it* *www.ipoggioliranch.com http://www.ipoggioliranch.com/ * *DESCRIZIONE PER VENDITA* * Casale tipico Toscano, in pietra a vista, tutto ristrutturato, con travi in legno * * e pavimenti in cotto. Ubicato nel cuore del Chianti Colli Aretini, in collina a * * 315 metri di altitudine, in zona assolutamente NON franosa e NON alluvionabile. * * A 5 minuti dal paese di Ambra, a mezza ora da Arezzo e Siena a una ora da Firenze, * * a una ora e mezzo dal mare a 2 ore dagli impianti sciistici delle montagne dell’Amiata * * e dell’Abetone, a mezza ora dalle terme di Rapolano, a mezza ora dall’uscita di Monte * * San Savino o di Valdichiana, dell’Autostrada del Sole A/1. * * A 4,5 Km. da scuole, negozi e banche ed a 20/30 Km. dall’ospedali di Siena e * * Montevarchi.* * In zona tranquilla ma con ottima viabilità fino alla casa, con soltanto 150 metri di * * strada bianca. * * * * Coordinate GPS **- Latitudine Nord 43.382257 Longitudine Est 11.62254* * * * Descrizione della proprietà* - *3 Appartamenti, 2 grandi e 1 piccolo per un totale di 310 mq.* * calpestabili, totalmente ristrutturati, tutti e 3 con cucine in * * muratura e elettrodomestici e più dettagliatamente: * * * * 1 **Appartamento a piano terra con travi in legno e composto da: * * 2 camere matrimoniali, 1 cameretta, 1 grande cucina in muratura con* * Tutti gli elettrodomestici, 1 grande soggiorno 2 bagni con doccia e * * vasca, 1 Terrazza di circa 40 mq. 1 giardino di circa 400 mq. * * Tutto completamente arredato con mobili In stile con la casa.* * * * 1 **Appartamento al 1° piano con travi in legno e composto da:* * 1 grande camera matrimoniale, 1 cameretta, 1 cucina in muratura,* * abitabile e con tutti gli elettrodomestici, 1 bagno con doccia e vasca,* * 1 terrazza di circa 18 mq. 1 giardino di circa 50 mq.* * * * 1 **Appartamento a piano terra composto da: * * 1 soggiorno/cucina in muratura con tutti gli elettrodomestici,* * 1 camera matrimoniale, 1 bagno con doccia, 1 tipica cantina * * Toscana, seminterrata di 24 mq. dove si può anche ricavare una * * Camera o un soggiorno. 1 giardino di circa 70 mq.* * * * **Tutti e 3 gli appartamenti di cui sopra sono con ingresso indipendente* * * - *Tutti gli appartamenti sono serviti di acqua calda e fredda, corrente * - *elettrica, telefono, internet ADSL e riscaldamento centralizzato che * - *può funzionare a GPL oppure a legna o pellet.* - *Classe energetica G, IPE 165,2 kwh/mq anno* - *Tipico Antico forno a legna per fare il pane o cuocerci anche altre cose.* - *1 Annesso agricoli per 50 mq.* - *9 Ettari di terreno dei quali 5 ettari a bosco di quercia e 4* * ettari di campi a oliveto e pascoli.* - *2 Piccoli torrenti che a valle delimitano la proprietà.* - *Posizionata in assoluto silenzio tranquillità e relax, ma non troppo isolata* * * - *Un allevamento di cavalli americani, con 16 Box. * - * Un tondino per domare i cavalli, che si può adoperare anche come * *Maneggio coperto.* - *3 ettari di recinti, campo da lavoro in sabbia di 40x25 mt. * - *Attività di maneggio, scuola di equitazione, allevamento e vendita * * cavalli americani, già avviata da 5 anni con 11 cavalli e tuttora * * funzionante che porta un reddito netto di 20.000 € all’anno già detratte * * tutte le spese e già compreso anche il costo di un dipendente fisso. * * * *- L’azienda è riconosciuta come Azienda Agricola ed usufruisce di tutte * * l’agevolazioni fiscali e tributarie che hanno l’aziende agricole, ma può anche * * essere usata come casa privata abitativa, casa vacanze, BB o agriturismo.* *- Oltre quanto sopra, la regione Toscana, a questo tipo di aziende agricole di * * questa zona, da dei contributi a fondo perduto del 30% per: ristrutturazioni,* * degli immobili, ampliamenti o costruzioni sia edili che in legno ma inerenti * * l’attività agricola o di agriturismo, nuovi impianti stabili di produzioni o* * lavorazioni agricole, ammodernamenti in genere, acquisto, attrezzature, * * risparmio energetico. * *- Oltre il contributo di cui sopra che è per tutti, ce ne sono sono anche altri * * per, l’imprenditoria giovanile e femminile. * *- Il profilo produttivo dell’azienda è di allevamento di cavalli o altro bestiame, * * ma può essere anche cambiato con la produzione di vino, olio o altro.* * - Tutte le costruzioni sono già state urbanisticamente regolarizzate.* *- La proprietà è libera da vincoli o ipoteche.* * * * * * * * Prezzo 700.000 € trattabili, compreso il terreno, tutto quanto elencato sopra,* * più: Box , Tondino/Maneggio coperto, Allevamento, Selle, Finimenti e Cavalli.* * * * * * * * Per maggiori informazioni, planimetrie o fotografie scriveteci o telefonateci *
Re:Listing on Web
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Listing on Web
Hi, My name is Sam and I am an Online Marketing Expert. I've been tracking the success of your website while doing some research on your industry-I'm impressed with your company, but there are some real opportunities for growth that you currently are missing. Are you interested in several proven strategies to use SEO or PPC to drive relevant traffic to your site? In 20 minutes I can show you how to fuel your brand and generate more revenue from search engines and social networks. I'd like to follow up about this with a quick phone call. Can I call you this week to discuss your campaign? Best regards, Sam ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
FINANZIAMENTI PER AZIENDE e privati cattivi pagatori
*/ /* *FINANZIAMENTI PER AZIENDE **E PRIVATI CATTIVI PAGATORI* * **Con la cessione del 5° dello stipendio o della pensione * * * *Si erogano in tutta Italia. Chiamateci per un preventivo gratuito. Tel. e Fax 055998182* *Tel. 0559139272* *o scriveteci a **inf**@valdarnoconsulting.com* mailto:finanziamentisubito...@gmail.com * * * * *FINANZIAMENTI BANCARI PER PICCOLE AZIENDE E LAVORATORI AUTONOMI* *Da erogare tramite un famigliare o un amico, pensionato, o lavoratore dipendente con contratto a tempo indeterminato.* Con la sola firma del finanziato anche se coniugato, senza dover spiegare a cosa serve il finanziamento e senza ulteriori garanzie. * * */PRESTITI PERSONALI PER PRIVATI:/* *Dipendenti pubblici e privati di tutte le**categorie compresi quelli delle piccole aziende **(con minimo 5 dipendenti)* *Pensionati di tutti gli enti previdenziali* *Si erogano fino a 85 anni di età, (termine del finanziamento)* * * *Si finanziano anche/:/**/Cattivi pagatori, segnalati in CRIF, con ritardi di pagamento, prestiti rifiutati di recente, falliti, protestati, pignorati, stranieri./* * * *ALCUNI ESEMPI, (Ma si possono avere anche cifre intermedie di qualsiasi importo)* *Erogato** **6.000**€**Tasso fisso e rate fisse a partire da **80 €** al mese - *T.A.N 6,1% - T.A.E.G. 10,28% *Erogato**14.000**€**Tasso fisso e rate fisse a partire da **180 € **al mese** -*T.A.N 6,1% - T.A.E.G. 9,8% *Erogato**25.000**€**Tasso fisso e rate fisse a partire da **318 € **al mese -*T.A.N 6,1% - T.A.E.G. 9,4% *Erogato**50.000€**Tasso fisso e rate fisse a partire da **632 € al mese - *T.A.N 6,1% - T.A.E.G. 9,26% * * * * * * * * * * *IN CASO D’ESTINZIONE ANTICIPATA SARANNO ELIMINATI GLI INTERESSI NON ANCORA MATURATI E SARANNO* *RESTUITUTE LE QUOTE D’ASSICURAZIONI GIA’ PAGATE E NON USUFRUITE.* Gli esempi di cui sopra, sono riferiti a dipendente pubblico donna con 35 anni di età, 15 anni di servizio con dilazione massima di 120 rate mensili Gli esempi sopra indicati *sono tutto incluso* e quindi comprendono il: TAEG, coperture assicurative per rischio vita, perdita d'impiego, commissioni bancarie o finanziarie. Periodo di validità del TAEG per pratiche erogate dal 1 Aprile 2014 fino al 30 Giugno 2014 * * *Attenzione!!!* *Questo è l’unico tipo di finanziamento che le banche ancora approvano **perché sono garantite dall’assicurazioni che nascono nel finanziamento stesso. L’assicurazioni garantiscono la banca erogante per il caso morte e perdita posto di lavoro se è un lavoratore dipendente, solo per il caso morte se è un pensionato.* * * */Noi rappresentiamo 4 banche specializzate in questi tipi di prestiti e siamo pagati dalle banche che rappresentiamo, quindi per i suddetti prestiti il cliente, a noi, non ha da darci niente./* */ /* *Noi siamo un’Agenzia Finanziaria e per poter fare questo lavoro siamo autorizzati da Banca d’Italia con autorizzazione N° A/96056,* *più Autorizzazione O.A.M. N° A/4587 e autorizzazione IVASS (ex isvap) N° 000432658* * * *Possiamo erogare i suddetti finanziamenti in tutta Italia, e tutto quanto dichiarato sopra è assolutamente vero* */ /* *Per saperne di più telefonateci o scriveteci a Tel. e Fax 055-998182 Tel. 0559139272 **i...@valdarnoconsulting.com* mailto:i...@valdarnoconsulting.com * * */VALDARNO CONSULTING/**di Bartalesi Nedo* */Finanziamenti e Prestiti/* *Agenzia finanziaria con autorizzazione Banca d'Italia N° A/96056, IVASS (ex isvap) 000432658 e OAM A/4587* *Sede* *- *Via I Poggioli 3 AMBRA - Bucine (AR) Tel. e Fax 055998182 Tel. 0559139272 i...@valdarnoconsulting.com mailto:i...@valdarnoconsulting.com Messaggio promozionale con finalità pubblicitarie. Tutti i finanziamenti sono sempre salvo approvazione della banca o della finanziaria erogante. Presso i nostri uffici sono a disposizione dei clienti, i fogli analitici delle condizioni. * * *LAVORA CON NOI NELLA TUA CITTA’ * Si cercano collaboratori procacciatori d’affari per segnalarci clienti interessati ai nostri finanziamenti. Lavoro semplice e guadagni subito. Se interessati, telefonateci o scriveteci a: Tel e Fax 055998182 Tel. 0559139272 i...@valdarnoconsulting.com mailto:i...@valdarnoconsulting.com -- Se non vuoi più ricevere email a href=http://phplist.valdarnoconsulting.com//?p=unsubscribe;clicca qui/a -- powered by phpList, www.phplist.com -- ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
PRESTITI FACILI PER TUTTI SUBITO
*PRESTITI PERSONALI * *per: DIPENDENTI, PENSIONATI, AZIENDE e CATTIVI PAGATORI* * Prestiti facili per tutti e subito* *con la cessione del 5° dello stipendio o della pensione* * * *Anche con la crisi, questi prestiti le nostre finanziarie li erogano ancora* * * *Si erogano in tutta Italia. Chiamateci per un preventivo gratuito. Tel. 055998182 * *o scriveteci a **finanziamentisubito...@gmail.com* mailto:finanziamentisubito...@gmail.com * * * * */PRESTITI PERSONALI PER:/* * * *Dipendenti pubblici e privati di tutte le**categorie compresi quelli delle piccole aziende **(con minimo 5 dipendenti)* *Pensionati di tutti gli enti previdenziali * *Si erogano fino a 85 anni di età, (termine del finanziamento)* * * *PRESTITI BANCARI PER PICCOLE AZIENDE E LAVORATORI AUTONOMI* *Da erogare tramite un famigliare o un amico, pensionato, o lavoratore dipendente con contratto a tempo indeterminato.* * * *Si finanziano anche/:/**/Cattivi pagatori, segnalati in CRIF, con ritardi di pagamento, prestiti rifiutati di recente, falliti, protestati, pignorati, stranierie. /* */Questo finanziamento viene erogato/**/ con la sola firma dell’interessato, senza dover spiegare per cosa gli serve/* */il finanziamento e senza ipoteche di nessun genere/* * * * * *ALCUNI ESEMPI, (Ma si possono avere anche cifre intermedie di qualsiasi importo)* *Erogato** **6.000**€**Tasso fisso e rate fisse a partire da **80 €** al mese - *T.A.N 6,1% - T.A.E.G. 10,28% *Erogato**14.000**€**Tasso fisso e rate fisse a partire da **180 € **al mese** -*T.A.N 6,1% - T.A.E.G. 9,8% *Erogato**25.000**€**Tasso fisso e rate fisse a partire da **318 € **al mese -*T.A.N 6,1% - T.A.E.G. 9,4% *Erogato**50.000€**Tasso fisso e rate fisse a partire da **632 € al mese - *T.A.N 6,1% - T.A.E.G. 9,26% * * *IN CASO D’ESTINZIONE ANTICIPATA SARANNO ELIMINATI GLI INTERESSI NON ANCORA MATURATI E SARANNO* *RESTUITUTE LE QUOTE D’ASSICURAZIONI GIA’ PAGATE E NON USUFRUITE.* Gli esempi di cui sopra, sono riferiti a dipendente pubblico donna con 35 anni di età, 15 anni di servizio con dilazione massima di 120 rate mensili Gli esempi sopra indicati *sono tutto incluso* e quindi comprendono il: TAEG, coperture assicurative per rischio vita, perdita d'impiego, commissioni bancarie o finanziarie. Periodo di validità del TAEG per pratiche erogate fino al 30 Giugno 2014 *Attenzione!!!* *Questo è l’unico tipo di finanziamento che le banche ancora approvano **perché sono garantite dall’assicurazioni che nascono nel finanziamento stesso. L’assicurazioni garantiscono la banca erogante per il caso morte e perdita posto di lavoro se è un lavoratore dipendente, solo per il caso morte se è un pensionato.* * * */Noi rappresentiamo 4 banche specializzate in questi tipi di prestiti e siamo pagati dalle banche che rappresentiamo, quindi per i suddetti prestiti il cliente, a noi, non ha da darci niente./* */ /* *Noi siamo un’Agenzia Finanziaria e per poter fare questo lavoro siamo autorizzati da Banca d’Italia con autorizzazione N° A/96056,* *più Autorizzazione O.A.M. N° A/4587 e autorizzazione IVASS (ex isvap) N° 000432658* */ /* *Per saperne di più telefonateci allo 055-998182 o scriveteci a **finanziamentisubito...@gmail.com* mailto:finanziamentisubito...@gmail.com * * */VALDARNO CONSULTING/**di Bartalesi Nedo* */Finanziamenti e Prestiti/* *Agenzia finanziaria con autorizzazione Banca d'Italia N° A/96056, IVASS (ex isvap) 000432658 e OAM A/4587* *Sede* *- *Via I Poggioli 3 AMBRA - Bucine (AR) Tel. e Fax 055998182 - finanziamentisubito...@gmail.com mailto:finanziamentisubito...@gmail.com Messaggio promozionale con finalità pubblicitarie. Tutti i finanziamenti sono sempre salvo approvazione della banca o della finanziaria erogante. Presso i nostri uffici sono a disposizione dei clienti, i fogli analitici delle condizioni. * * *LAVORA CON NOI NELLA TUA CITTA’ * Si cercano collaboratori procacciatori d’affari per segnalarci clienti interessati ai nostri finanziamenti. Lavoro semplice e guadagni subito. Se interessati, telefonateci allo 055998182 o scriveteci a: finanziamentisubito...@gmail.com mailto:finanziamentisubito...@gmail.com -- Se non vuoi più ricevere email a href=http://phplist.valdarnoconsulting.com//?p=unsubscribe;clicca qui/a -- powered by phpList, www.phplist.com -- ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
HELLO MY GOOD HART
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Conference Invitation Notice!
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Re: Ardour 3
Hi, I agree with Robin, Paul Davis has been explicitly clear on this, I'm curious as to why there is any packaging of Ardour3 required when it is now distributed by Paul Davis himself as a universal Linux standalone binary? Unfortunately various distribution packaging problems (not necessarily Debian) over the years have played a part in these binary bundles being created in the first place. I personally asked about Ardour 3 alphas being included in AV Linux 5.0 and was told in no uncertain terms that A3 alphas or beta were to be distributed. Just thought I'd pass that along. Regards -GLEN On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Jaromír Mike wrote: 2011/9/27 Reinhard Tartler siret...@tauware.de: On Di, Sep 27, 2011 at 14:25:32 (CEST), Jaromír Mike wrote: I am just curious if exists in team plan to introduce Ardour 3 alpas in experimental? No, but I'd say If you feel like doing it, go for it! Hmm ... Ardour is very complex package and it uses cdbs ... I don't dare to work on it just by myself ... somebody else interested too? Alessio? mira Please check Paul Davis' Note on packaging ardour3. It has been a recurring subject on the linux-audio-dev and ardour-dev email lists. In short: No Linux distribution should be packaging Ardour3 alpha releases. Certainly it is not illegal do to so but you'll annoy the developers when packaging it at this point in time for various reasons. This may change with upcoming beta1 - but ask on IRC #ardour or the ardour-dev email list before starting that endeavour. best, robin ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Ardour 3
My apologies, In my previous comment I meant to say Ardour3 alphas and betas were NOT to be distributed. Just to clarify... -GLEN On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Jaromír Mike wrote: 2011/9/27 Reinhard Tartler siret...@tauware.de: On Di, Sep 27, 2011 at 14:25:32 (CEST), Jaromír Mike wrote: I am just curious if exists in team plan to introduce Ardour 3 alpas in experimental? No, but I'd say If you feel like doing it, go for it! Hmm ... Ardour is very complex package and it uses cdbs ... I don't dare to work on it just by myself ... somebody else interested too? Alessio? mira Please check Paul Davis' Note on packaging ardour3. It has been a recurring subject on the linux-audio-dev and ardour-dev email lists. In short: No Linux distribution should be packaging Ardour3 alpha releases. Certainly it is not illegal do to so but you'll annoy the developers when packaging it at this point in time for various reasons. This may change with upcoming beta1 - but ask on IRC #ardour or the ardour-dev email list before starting that endeavour. best, robin ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Bug#637637: yoshimi: Yoshimi seg faults when started with -j -A option
Hi, If I'm not mistaken this bug and another JACK related bug here by the same reporter are 'avlinux' packages, therefore not packaged by pkg-multimedia. The yoshimi issue has been reported on the AV Linux forums and seems to disappear simply by increasing the JACK 'Timeout' to 1000 or more. Yoshimi is custom packaged in AV Linux and has no dbg package currently. I append an 'avlinux' package name suffix to all my custom packages, and would suggest to the reporter to feel welcome to seek assistance on the AV Linux user forums when there are issues with them since they are not endorsed or the responsibility of the Debian pkg-multimedia team. I thought I'd better speak up on this to prevent any misunderstanding. As always my props and encouragement to the pkg-multimedia team. GMaq - AV Linux maintainer AV Linux forum: http://www.remastersys.com/forums/index.php?board=20.0 tags 637637 confirmed thanks On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Live session user gn...@hawaii.rr.com wrote: Started Yoshimi without options; it didn't appear in JACK. Started with -j -A option, segfaults. I confirm those -j -A options prevent yoshimi to start fine. I haven't noticed this before because I use ladish to manage my audioMIDI connections, and if launched without options it appears in gladish. I need some time to investigate further. Could you please install yoshimi-dbg and provide a backtrace? -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer | quadris...@ubuntu.com 0FEC 59A5 E18E E04F 6D40 593B 45D4 8C7C DCFC 3FD0 ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Request for an open dialog between projects
Jonas (Adrian, Benjamin) I've given this a bit more thought and firstly Jonas don't put too much weight in the 'mongrel dog' comment...it was just a (failed) attempt at viewing derivatives with a bit of humor. I don't pretend to know what you like or dislike, just what possibilities are within the Debian framework to keep things efficient. ;) Perhaps a combination of all ideas could work like this: I personally bring pkg-multimedia related bugs to this mailing list from my users that they report to my forum. That way you deal with only one bug reporter from AV Linux (me) and the unique identifier that Adrian alluded to is simply my name on this mailing list and the info I provide. This also lets me determine if the bug is worth reporting to you or it is something I can fix or address with the upstream developer to save wasting your time. Regarding fixes, like you guys I am personally in contact with many of the upstream developers as well, for instance I recently have worked closely with Yoshimi's developer on fixing some bugs on his 0.060 series that you guys I'm sure will be interested in. In this way I can get help with bugs and hopefully equally contribute some information to help fix them or make you aware of upstream developments that you may not have noted yet. I am preparing my user manual for the 5.0 release and would like to put a Support section in there to clarify how to get help. To paraphrase our discussion here I will explain the difference between my packages and yours and suggest people report all bugs to me first, and then go from there depending on if it is pkg-multimedia related or not. Does this sound like a workable arrangement? -GLEN On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 03:03:30PM -0700, i...@bandshed.net wrote: I truly appreciate what Adrian is proposing and appreciate as always that willingness to help especially with JACK and ffado etc. I do understand that an idea like Adrian's somewhat can be seen as a 'slippery slope' and if you let one mongrel dog in from the cold soon you will have ten of them all with specific needs that differ from Debian's core mandate. Either I lost you or you are confusing who said what: Benjamin suggests to tell your users to bypass us and go straight upstream with bugs in upstream code. I recommend to report all bugs at the upstream level closest to you, the way that upstream level prefer to have them reported. Adrian suggests that you systematically add a hint that the packages are tied to a derived distribution. I am not against that specifically, but am concerned generally that lowers awareness among _end-users_ about who are their closest upstream compared to who they are reporting bugs to. It seems to me that the mongrel dog you are talking about is derived distributions, and that I dislike working with those. I don't! I love Debian being used - both directly by end-users and by indirectly via derived distributions like yours. My concern is another: It is to help you as derivative and your users to maintain a good relationship with Debian. Debian consists of a big bunch of individuals and teams, not all of them equally happy working with bugreports coming from all corners of the world. Heck, some even dislike working on bugs coming from me, even if I am a Debian Developer for 10+ years. One thing I believe helps in communication is to talk straight. Here it means that the person filing a bugreport - end-users of your derived distro - are aware that they are using a derivative, and that they are filing the bugreport and discussing it with someone who are quite likely unfamiliar with that particular derivation and might have political opinions against working with derivatives or whatever. I believe it is better to educate end-users about this than to add a tag to the initial bugreport. It is not lost on me that the rigorous and unflinching adherence to it's ideals and conventions is what make Debian the wonder that it is, and what makes it the ideal choice for projects like mine. To be blunt what I am asking really is for you to be aware of my project and in the infrequent case that a bug report comes your way for a pkg-multimedia issue to say OK we've heard of it and we'll see if we can help rather than 'AV Linux...never heard of it, go away! If (or when, because it _does_ happen) we say go away to _indirect_ users of Debian, I believe we violate §4 of the Debian Social Contract: Our priorities are our users and free software Indirect users are users too, IMO. Some may disagree and say that only direct users of Debian are our users which means it is only our priority to talk to _you_ the maintainer of the derivative, not your users. Since Adrian do not suggest to have you always work as proxy between your users and us, I feel we basically agree on interpreting as indirect users also being our users. And I recommend to help teach them what is the relationship when they report bugs directly
Re: Request for an open dialog between projects
Benjamin, Thanks for taking time to reply and for being willing to examine a course of action. If there is no further comment from the team I will very cautiously pass this along to AV Linux users with the clear understanding of the scope you are talking about. For your information AV Linux 5.0 is to be released in roughly a month based on Squeeze (with some Sid/Debian GIT) modifications to be current with ffado and JACK/JACK Session. Because it will not be Wheezy/Sid based it should automatically cut down on the need for pkg-multimedia to fix or maintain it's packages. Although I am praying that the Squeeze Backports come to fruition to fortify and improve Squeeze's long term viability. I realize you guys already have much to do. Thanks for your consideration. -GLEN Am Montag, den 28.03.2011, 10:15 -0700 schrieb i...@bandshed.net: The point of all this background is to pose a question about maintaining pkg-multimedia packages in AV Linux. My custom packages in AV Linux all have an 'avlinux' suffix appended to them to differentiate them from your packages, these packages of course I maintain myself. When users have an issue with one of your packages I find it a little 'politically' awkward to handle. I would very much like an open dialog with pkg-multimedia so we can have a good working relationship and I would like to be able to openly send users and bug reports that pertain to you without masking the true origin of where these reports are coming from. Although I am an arms length project that may politically differ from Debian ideals I think we have far more in common than these minor differences. Here's my opinion: Send users to us if they experience a packaging bug or to the (original) upstream developers if it is an upstream bug. For small package, you can forward all bug reporters to us. For big packages, there's the risk to collect too many bugs without having the manpower to process and forward them all. -- Benjamin Drung Debian Ubuntu Developer ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Request for an open dialog between projects
Jonas, I truly appreciate what Adrian is proposing and appreciate as always that willingness to help especially with JACK and ffado etc. I do understand that an idea like Adrian's somewhat can be seen as a 'slippery slope' and if you let one mongrel dog in from the cold soon you will have ten of them all with specific needs that differ from Debian's core mandate. It is not lost on me that the rigorous and unflinching adherence to it's ideals and conventions is what make Debian the wonder that it is, and what makes it the ideal choice for projects like mine. To be blunt what I am asking really is for you to be aware of my project and in the infrequent case that a bug report comes your way for a pkg-multimedia issue to say OK we've heard of it and we'll see if we can help rather than 'AV Linux...never heard of it, go away! -GLEN On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:53:16PM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 09:17:45PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Generally I encourage all users of Debian to file bugreports at Debian. I second this. Just make sure to mention anything unusual about the installed system. Seems useful. Maybe Glenn could ship a custom /etc/reportbug.conf, adding something like X-AV-Linux: $VERSION I don't know if it's too much work, and I guess we can derive the use of AVLinux from the fact that some libs or packages might be called -avlinux (the list at the bottom of a bug report) Well, it would be nice with such hint but really I don't see the need: Instead of trying to encourage redistributors to derive even further from Debian by hinting explicitly, I would prefer if we all - Debian users, redistributors and anyone else helping other users with e.g. adding backports.org or in other ways distort systems from using Debian the way it was tested to be used - clearly tell such users that if/when they later run into problems with their systems they are better off to a) report back to the mothership but also b) clearly mentions how they are off of the mainstream usage pattern, e.g. by simply mentioning which derivative distribution or what mixin repository they've used. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Request for an open dialog between projects
Hi, I recently noticed the link in the Debian Multimedia Wiki to AV Linux which I maintain. It is no secret that the excellent work you guys do here is a huge factor in the growing acceptance of the project. I have also noted a couple of names of maintainers here are also members of the AV Linux forum. To give an idea of the relative scope, AV Linux ISO's see about 10,000 accesses per month, of course this does not indicate actual successful downloads or end users it simply indicates there is measurable interest in the project. About 80% of the packages in AV Linux are of pkg-multimedia origin. The remaining packaging is done by me and includes some commercial Linux Audio software demos that would not meet Debian's criteria. I can guess there may be some question as to why I don't just join pkg-multimedia for the other packaging I do, and the simple answer is my packaging is narrowly focused and would not meet all Debian standards and more importantly maintaining a distro by myself has become all I can currently handle and then some! The point of all this background is to pose a question about maintaining pkg-multimedia packages in AV Linux. My custom packages in AV Linux all have an 'avlinux' suffix appended to them to differentiate them from your packages, these packages of course I maintain myself. When users have an issue with one of your packages I find it a little 'politically' awkward to handle. I would very much like an open dialog with pkg-multimedia so we can have a good working relationship and I would like to be able to openly send users and bug reports that pertain to you without masking the true origin of where these reports are coming from. Although I am an arms length project that may politically differ from Debian ideals I think we have far more in common than these minor differences. I know there is discussion of reviving demudi and I also know AV Linux would not be a candidate to evolve or adapt into demudi however currently AV Linux is the only actively maintained Debian non-Ubuntu multimedia distro out there. I make it a priority with every release to promote and give pkg-multimedia the attribution you most certainly deserve. I am also willing to allocate donated funds upstream, for instance to assist with the proposed Squeeze backports or other purposes, I certainly do not expect this to be a one-sided relationship. To summarize I don't expect you to endorse or assist AV Linux only to be open to maintaining and fixing the pkg-multimedia content within it. Thanks for taking to time to read and consider this, whatever you may decide I am grateful for all your efforts and truly and sincerely hope to increase our collaborative efforts. Best Regards, Glen MacArthur - AV Linux maintainer. ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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JACK Session Support within Applications + Squeeze Backports
Hello pkg-multimedia team, A huge thanks for getting stuff like the new JACK 0.120.1 out so quickly. A couple of questions: Are there plans to update to new JACK Session ready builds of apps that support it like Bristol, Yoshimi, Qtractor etc. in order to have them take advantage of this functionality either with ladish when it matures or Qjackctl which already supports it or pyjacksm which is yet another contender? I also was wondering about the status of pkg-multimedia backports for Squeeze, is it in the works or are there not sufficient human resources or sustainable dependencies in light of all the new developments and libraries in Testing/Sid? These questions are out of curiosity only and certainly not loaded with expectations. The team is doing an incredible job and I know many of you are stretched to the max. Best Regards, Glen MacArthur - AV Linux Maintainer ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Request for pyjack to be included in pkg-multimedia
Hi, As always thanks and a big tip of the hat to all your efforts here, having all of this great multimedia stuff in Debian is a dream come true. I recently have been discussing JACK transport and JACK support with the developers of the Openshot Video Editor who have made incredible strides in Linux Video Editing. They are starting to examine ways to improve and enhance the audio side of the app. One of the methods being discussed is to incorporate JACK transport support which is also on the todo list at KDEnlive. A key ingredient to making this happen is the 'pyjack' library which is not currently packaged within Debian. This library has been successfully used to lock transport with Ardour and Blender and the Openshot developers have said having it available in Debian (and of course Ubuntu) would be a big step in the right direction and would make it available as a dependency instead of an obscure outside librsry. I think the potential with Blender, KDEnlive and Openshot for development avenues makes it worthwhile to look into. Of course as a member of this list but not a maintainer it's easy for me to suggest without knowing exactly what packaging it entails. I respectfully offer the suggestion for what it's worth... pyjack project is here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/py-jack/ What do you guys think?? Best Regards, Glen MacArthur - AV Linux maintainer, ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Request for pyjack to be included in pkg-multimedia
Jonas Thanks very much for your response and willingness to look into this when you are so busy otherwise. I have filed a report and named the package 'python-jack' at which point the bugreport utility closed, I'm not sure if this is normal or not, I will wait for email confirmation, if it hasn't been filed properly I will make a second attempt. Thanks again to you and the entire team. -GLEN On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 07:14:35AM -0800, i...@bandshed.net wrote: A key ingredient [...] is the 'pyjack' library pyjack project is here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/py-jack/ What do you guys think?? Sure thing. Sounds promising! Please file an RFP bugreport against the pseudo-package WNPP, then - if noone else volunteers (I am involved in quite much already) I will be happy to help maintain it. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: oom git repo created
Great addition guys, great to see, it's very impressive app. In speaking to Alex the developer it is still Beta and there are multiple daily commits, but it's coming along very quickly. Plug in support is pretty dodgy and LV2 is not a high priority currently. Thanks for getting it into the system! Hi Jonas! I've seen you've filed an ITP for openoctave. In the meantime, they have their second release, commonly named oom2. I guess there will be oom3 one day, hence I decided to name the source package oom: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-multimedia/oom.git Let's start the work? ;) Cheers PS: If you think openoctave would be more appropriate, we can rename the project. -- mail: a...@thur.dehttp://adi.thur.de PGP/GPG: key via keyserver ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Debian Multimedia Menus (discussion)
Hi, The problem is in my experience that even if you make a menu with alternative additional sub menus most packagers create their launchers to strict freedesktop.org standards and the end user or distributor has to manually edit and allocate launchers to the correct submenu. In AV Linux I have a heavily customized menu built to the freedesktop standards and have heavily modified /etc/xdg/applications.menu but if there is a new or 3rd party package I haven't prepared for it still ends up in the wrong place. I think getting something like this to work on all D.E's and with a variety of package sources would be next to impossible. Just my .02 input -GLEN On 12/07/2010 04:33 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote: Hi, When working with Multimedia / Proaudio on Linux | Debian, you have a lot of small packages installed pretty soon (one task one tool). With as consequence a very long list in the menu part for multimedia packages. Ubuntu Studio tries to make the situation better by providing a 'audioproduction' and 'videoproduction' menu. In my view this isn't always a good solution cause some packages are in the wrong part, displayed twice and most of the installations do still have a long list of applications. A quick look at Tango Studio showed that they have more menu parts, one for audio mixing plugins and synths etc. http://tangostudio.tuxfamily.org/images/stories/tangostudio-karmasutra.png I thought, isn't there a way to make a better menu by the Debian Multimedia Team? A bit like Ubuntu Studio has done e.g. an extra menu package you can install if you want to do Multimedia production, but then better? What do you think? Best regards, \r Hi, Got no comments so far... This is what I'm talking about (brainstorming): Before: http://img37.imageshack.us/i/desk1007.png/ After: http://img141.imageshack.us/i/desk1008.png/ I split up Multimedia (players) and Sound Video (production) http://img11.imageshack.us/i/desk1009.png/ At this point I have 7 extra entries in Sound Video 1. Audio Editing (Editing, Mixing, Mastering: Audacity, jack-rack, lv2rack, guitarix etc ) 2. JACK (Jack and Alsa tools like qjackctl, japa, jack_mixer and software mixers for alsa audio cards for example) 3. MIDI (Midi tools like Vkeybd, qsynth) 4. Musician (Musescore notation editor, solfege, Chordata, gtklick etc) 5. Recording (DAW: ardour, qtractor) 6. Synth (phasex, yoshimi, puredata, Qutecsound etc.) 7. Video Editing (pitivi, xjadeo, kino etc) I tried to keep it as simple as possible, not to many entries and pretty broad areas cause every Debian Audio production app should be able to be entered in a certain entry... If we want this, this means we should make a DebianMultimedia menu like the Ubuntustudio-menu package. Moreover, we should make little additions to the Desktop files of the Multimedia applications and add new categories. A other thing that has to be thought of, is how this all applies to other WMs like KDE, XFCE etc. All though, if you create a DebianMultimedia-menu, people are free to install it or not... Waiting for your response. Best regards, \r ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
linuxsampler and liblinuxsampler
Hi, I see there are some linuxsampler related packages in pkg-multimedia however not actual linuxsampler and liblinuxsampler. In my experience the 3rd party packages available from the linuxsampler site are incompatible with jackd2 due a libjack0 dependency however they work just fine with jackd1. Are there plans for jack2 compatible liblinuxsampler etc.? or is there an issue with the current version? ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Kernel 2.6.36 and libraw1394 2.0.6 wrt Firewire Audio Devices
Fabian, Please don't misunderstand, Your (the pkg-multimedia team's) work here is nothing short of incredible during the past Squeeze development phase, I as a user/3rd party distributor am certainly aware of that as much as anyone else, I also know that the freeze is beyond the control of pkg-multimedia and I know the 'Debian' way of doing things. Because SO much has been accomplished it is frustrating to see Squeeze unreleased still missing key things like JACK Session and latest ffado, which will seriously hamper efforts for keen multimedia users to move forward with Ardour 3 and other important developments which will more than likely occur before Squeeze is even released. My complaint was never about your work, it was a frustrated comment on the unfortunate timing of the freeze in cutting off your work before a more sustainable plateau was reached. If you or any of the team percieved my comments to be otherwise I apologize and hope this clarifies my intent. -GLEN Dear Glen, Am 21.11.2010 14:23, schrieb i...@bandshed.net: I'm not sure if libraw1394 falls under your jurisdiction or not but the No, it does not: http://packages.qa.debian.org/libr/libraw1394.html latest release (November 1) supports daisy chaining multiple firewire A bug requesting upgrading to the latest upstream version has already been filed: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=602215 devices on the new firewire stack when used with Kernel 2.6.36. Testing by AV Linux users has confirmed this. Squeeze will ship with linux 2.6.32. Note daisy chaining was previously only possible with the legacy firewire stack. I've seen some Squeeze exception requests for this that have been flatly denied (as Squeeze for multimedia slides hopelessly further into Sure, these changes are not targeted at the kernel considered for squeeze release anyway and some changes do simply come too late... obsolescence) but there seems to be no updates to libraw1394 2.0.6 Thanks for declaring our team effort for multimedia support in Squeeze obsolete! available in Sid or experimental either. Use of the new stack makes ffado supported Audio devices plug and play, the addition of 2.0.6 would further that to multiple firewire devices being plug and play. Thought I'd pass that along. Thanks anyway. - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Kernel 2.6.36 and libraw1394 2.0.6 wrt Firewire Audio Devices
Hi, I don't pretend to be as 'in the loop' as you guys but speaking to Paul Davis on Ardour IRC a few weeks ago it seemed Ardour was going to migrate to a self contained binary model (like Renoise or EnergyXT has). If this coincides with an alpha A3 release then the dependencies etc will be radically different and compilation not required. I know this is in the works but not when it will appear. On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 07:08:50PM +0100, rosea.grammostola wrote: It's then possible to package Ardour3 for experimental, and I think I will do once alpha1 will be released. Alpha software... do you also provide a 'debug' package for it? Would probably make sense. Not that the official ardour version will still be ardour2, but outside a freeze, I think we should provide users a convenient way to try upcoming stuff. This way, we'll also have time to get the packaging right. ;) Cheers -- mail: a...@thur.dehttp://adi.thur.de PGP/GPG: key via keyserver ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Kernel 2.6.36 and libraw1394 2.0.6 wrt Firewire Audio Devices
Adi, Well hmmm I can't elaborate much more than that unfortunately, it was not discussed in specifics but a standalone binary (like the others you mentioned) was the general idea, Seablade also said something similar on the Ardour forum recently again without any detail. A sincere and heartfelt THANK-YOU!!! for the updated JACK and FFADO stuff, I am still shipping JACK1 to satisfy some 3rd party dependencies but I'll look forward to it whenever you get to it. At the risk of sounding stupid (well perhaps stupid-er), I have this 'experimental' line in my sources.list: #Experimental deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental main non-free contrib However there doesn't seem to be any of the pkg-multimedia stuff in there I'm looking for, am I missing another or different experimental repository? Guidance appreciated, and thanks again for your attention to JACK, FFADO, and Ardour packaging! Best -GLEN On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:00:47AM -0800, i...@bandshed.net wrote: Hi, Hi! I don't pretend to be as 'in the loop' as you guys but speaking to Paul Davis on Ardour IRC a few weeks ago it seemed Ardour was going to migrate to a self contained binary model (like Renoise or EnergyXT has). Could you elaborate on this? I've seen a single line like we're going to provide the binary, so we don't have to rely on the distro, but I don't know how much work has already been put into this. Anyway, there's still the code, and we can at least try and compile on our own. Like chromium-browser or openoffice: Debian provides self-compiled versions, but the user is always free to pick up the upstream provided one. For your convenience: I just uploaded updated FFADO and jackd2 (including jack-session) to experimental. I'll also update jackd1 soon, but Paul said something about an upcoming release, so I'll wait a couple of days. We then try to get this into squeeze-backports, so squeeze-users won't need to recompile everything. -- mail: a...@thur.dehttp://adi.thur.de PGP/GPG: key via keyserver ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Kernel 2.6.36 and libraw1394 2.0.6 wrt Firewire Audio Devices
Hi I'm not sure if libraw1394 falls under your jurisdiction or not but the latest release (November 1) supports daisy chaining multiple firewire devices on the new firewire stack when used with Kernel 2.6.36. Testing by AV Linux users has confirmed this. Note daisy chaining was previously only possible with the legacy firewire stack. I've seen some Squeeze exception requests for this that have been flatly denied (as Squeeze for multimedia slides hopelessly further into obsolescence) but there seems to be no updates to libraw1394 2.0.6 available in Sid or experimental either. Use of the new stack makes ffado supported Audio devices plug and play, the addition of 2.0.6 would further that to multiple firewire devices being plug and play. Thought I'd pass that along. Regards -GLEN ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
JACK1 to JACK2 wants to rip out all JACK related packages
Hi, I have been playing around with both JACK1 and JACK2 for the last little while. Since I distribute AV Linux I settled on JACK1 because it seemed to have much better across the board compatibility with a broader range of both hardware and software. Recently I have been investigating the inclusion of Ladish (which I think the pkg-multimedia team should also consider). The main thrust of Ladish development seems to favour JACK2 and it's included dbus capabilities. It seems currently if I want to crossgrade from JACK1 to JACK2 all JACK related packages will be removed?? I was under the impression from previous experiments that both JACK versions could be drop-in replacements for each other. Has this changed? Is there a possibility of a dbus enabled JACK1 within Debian? If I have to I can build my own way around these issues but I much prefer to work with the pkg-multimedia packages to ensure future compatibility. I appreciate the team's time and efforts! Regards -GLEN ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Adi YAAU Yet Another Ardour Update! 2.8.10
Adrian, In case you didn't know they have released Ardour 2.8.10 to fix keyboard shortcuts with LADSPA Plugins. Just passing it along. Thanks very much for being so on top of the latest Ardour releases! BTW I have released AV Linux 4.0 and put a nice blurb about the pkg-multimedia team in the release notes, have a look if you like. http://www.bandshed.net/pdf/AV4Released.pdf Regards -GLEN ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Hey Adi, Here we go again... Ardour 2.8.9 released!
Hi again Adrian, Apparently the mute button issue has now been corrected in the source code and they have an updated release. Thanks again!! ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Hey Adi, Ardour 2.8.8 finally here!!
Hi, Just a note for Adrian that Ardour 2.8.8 is here, hopefully in time for Squeeze. Thanks for all that you guys do!! ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Ardour and the Squeeze Freeze
Hi, I'm guessing Adrian will likely be the guy to answer this but here goes: There has been talk of an Ardour 2.8.8 release in the very near future, Although I hesitate to second guess Paul Davis this will most likely be the last release of the 2.X Series since 3.0 seems to be getting closer to release (who can say for sure). Anyway the point is it would be nice to see at least the most recent 2.X series Ardour released into Squeeze, Is there still time if Ardour 2.8.8 materializes in the next week or two? Also good call on JACK2 you guys...great to see it as an option for Squeeze. Keep it comin'! ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: What is the multimedia future for Squeeze?
Jonas, Thanks for the reply, I'm sorry to have not been more concise with my question, My question about Stable was semi-rhetorical. Having observed the pattern of Debian Stable in the past (and yes I was complaining a little wee bit). Now that there is a dedicated multimedia packaging team I wonder if AV Linux should continue with Squeeze (less fresh packages, far more core library stability) and will there be a better representation of multimedia updates through down to Stable?. Or will I need to continue using Testing as a base in order to continue keeping pace?. Does that make more sense? I'm not even sure if it is an answerable question...but opinions are a valued response as well. Thanks, -GLEN Hi Glen, On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 12:55:07PM -0700, i...@bandshed.net wrote: I am a member of this list but not the packaging team, I develop AV Linux and use your packages from GIT, Unstable and Squeeze regularly. Last year when I released AV Linux 2.0 based on Squeeze I had to build about 75% of the Audio applications from source in order to fulfill the status quo with other Multimedia intensive Distributions. The amount of ground this team has covered in less than a year is earth-shattering, I now have less than 10% of my applications outside of the official Debian channels. Perhaps in the long term you guys will make me redundant but my user numbers continue to grow and I have to contemplate what direction to continue in. Perhaps you could see the benefit of maintaining those remaining 10% at Alioth? In other words: Why not join the team - even if your target it a derivative of Debian rather than Debian itself? I could certainly see a benefit in working as close together as possible! :-) I haven't found Debian Testing/Unstable to be a terrible easy thing to distribute, as a single developer I don't have an extensive breakage buffering infrastructure like SiduX does and I basically have to tell my users not to update and provide them with regular updated ISO snapshots that I have broken and fixed to a point of useability. Interesting. Seriously. I have quite some opinions on ways to produce custom distributions based on Debian, but that's off topic for this list. I'd be happy to discuss this topic further at the ble...@lists.debian.org list instead. Finally to my question(s)...how much of the current pkg-multimedia inventory will find it's way into Debian 6.0? Do you know about the Debian QA pages? Have a look here: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-multimedia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org ...and notice the Testing column - that's what will end in next stable Debian distribution release, if all goes well. Also now that there is a pkg-multimedia team in place for the next stable release will new applications eventually make their way into Stable? Or will it be the age old pattern of Debian Stable being bliss for the first few moths of it's release and then being woefully out of date for multimedia heads? Yes, that is exactly how it is: after a few months WHAM! everything is old, boring and shitty and everyone are just longing for the next release happening ages later. Or were you not trolling? Seems you knew the answer already and really wanted to complain. Perhaps if you rephrase your question it might be easier to understand (for me at least). I wish I could say that Xorg, Udev, Grub2 and other libs have been fun to work with this past year...but NOT! I'd like to know what to expect to continue on for the next year. (Or until you guys get rid of me!) Again - what is your question here? kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Continuing usage of libwine 1.0.1
Hello, Before you read this rest assured I am well aware of the minefield that is VST support in Linux! As someone who builds and benefits from your work, I was wondering about the libwine dependency in any VST related packages like DSSI-VST and LMMS. My distro (AV Linux) uses the lamaresh repository Wine packages which of course I don't expect you to support but I can't use your packages for LMMS or even DSSI-VST without ripping out the existing Wine install. In my experience libwine 1.0.1 has reduced abilities with VST plugins in comparison to more recent builds of Wine and although I have noted the there is a new libwine-unstable none of your existing VST related packages will use it as a dependency. Would it be possible to at the very least link to the libwine-unstable packages or even better allow for regular Wine and Wine-dev packages to satisfy the dependencies as well? I wouldn't think that this is an uncommon scenario with many Debian users let alone AV Linux users to be wanting to use the lamaresh packages instead of relying on the very outdated libwine 1.0.1. Lastly does the pkg-multimedia team have a donations link? I would very much like to send some AV Linux donations (meager as they are) upstream to the team in appreciation for this unprecedented effort in Linux multimedia packaging, soon there will be no need for Multimedia-centred Debian Distros at all. (perhaps that is your goal!?) Regards -GLEN ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers