Re: [DRE-maint] Bug#722375: Updating the Ruby packaging policy for your package «libposixlock-ruby»

2013-10-18 Thread Tomas Pospisek

Hello Gunnar,

On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Gunnar Wolf wrote:


Tomas Pospisek dijo [Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 03:46:32PM +0200]:

according to popcon there are a few user using the package. I don't
know if the number there is statistically relevant - or in other
words if those users really *are* using the package.

If we leave the package in Debian as is, then at least we serve
those few users.

I'm not sure what we gain by dropping the package.

But please proceed as you judge right.


Hi Tomas,

The problem is that, as this bug is not compatible with Ruby ≥ 1.9.1,
and upstream no longer supports it, it would not allow us to drop Ruby
1.8 (which is planned to happen during this release cycle). Jessie
will ship with support for Ruby 1.9.1 and 2.0, but 1.8 will be
dropped.


Ah, OK, I understand. In that case, I'd be *very grateful*, if you'd 
have the the package removed from sid/the next release.


Thanks a lot Gunnar!
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Re: [DRE-maint] Bug#722375: Updating the Ruby packaging policy for your package «libposixlock-ruby»

2013-10-14 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Tomas Pospisek dijo [Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 03:46:32PM +0200]:
 according to popcon there are a few user using the package. I don't
 know if the number there is statistically relevant - or in other
 words if those users really *are* using the package.
 
 If we leave the package in Debian as is, then at least we serve
 those few users.
 
 I'm not sure what we gain by dropping the package.
 
 But please proceed as you judge right.

Hi Tomas,

The problem is that, as this bug is not compatible with Ruby ≥ 1.9.1,
and upstream no longer supports it, it would not allow us to drop Ruby
1.8 (which is planned to happen during this release cycle). Jessie
will ship with support for Ruby 1.9.1 and 2.0, but 1.8 will be
dropped.

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Re: [DRE-maint] Bug#722375: Updating the Ruby packaging policy for your package «libposixlock-ruby»

2013-10-12 Thread Tomas Pospisek

On Sat, 21 Sep 2013, Gunnar Wolf wrote:


Tomas Pospisek dijo [Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:52:52PM +0200]:

Hello Gunnar and dear Ruby maintainers,

I'm currently off, travelling the world. Possibly I will try to
bring my Ruby package up to speed, but more probably I won't.
Finding the time and calm, internet and AC current is too much of a
rare coincidence.

So please if anybody feels like fixing my package up, the please do
so, thanks a lot and greets to you all,
*t


I downloaded your package to take a stab at repackaging it, but found
you had this in your README:

 The upstream posixlock gem has not been ported and doesn't compile
 under ruby 1.9.

  -- Tomas Pospisek tpo_...@sourcepole.ch  Tue, 03 Jul 2012

The last time upstream appears to have touched the code is in 2009,
but Web references I found to it seem to be from 2005-2007 (maybe the
http://www.codeforpeople.com/ server was installed in 2009?); the code
is really tied into the C structures of Ruby objects, and I agree with
your comment: It fails to build for 1.9.3.

Now, although this functionality seems important, the package has no
reverse dependencies, and has a very low popcon index. So, I'd suggest
filing a bug for its removal.

It would be best if you could file this bug; otherwise, I can do it,
but please tell me if I should proceed (or, of course, if I should
_not_ do so).


according to popcon there are a few user using the package. I don't know 
if the number there is statistically relevant - or in other words if those 
users really *are* using the package.


If we leave the package in Debian as is, then at least we serve those few 
users.


I'm not sure what we gain by dropping the package.

But please proceed as you judge right.

Thank you Gunnar and greets,
*t

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Re: [DRE-maint] Bug#722375: Updating the Ruby packaging policy for your package «libposixlock-ruby»

2013-09-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Tomas Pospisek dijo [Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:52:52PM +0200]:
 Hello Gunnar and dear Ruby maintainers,
 
 I'm currently off, travelling the world. Possibly I will try to
 bring my Ruby package up to speed, but more probably I won't.
 Finding the time and calm, internet and AC current is too much of a
 rare coincidence.
 
 So please if anybody feels like fixing my package up, the please do
 so, thanks a lot and greets to you all,
 *t

Hi Tomas,

I downloaded your package to take a stab at repackaging it, but found
you had this in your README:

  The upstream posixlock gem has not been ported and doesn't compile
  under ruby 1.9.

   -- Tomas Pospisek tpo_...@sourcepole.ch  Tue, 03 Jul 2012

The last time upstream appears to have touched the code is in 2009,
but Web references I found to it seem to be from 2005-2007 (maybe the
http://www.codeforpeople.com/ server was installed in 2009?); the code
is really tied into the C structures of Ruby objects, and I agree with
your comment: It fails to build for 1.9.3.

Now, although this functionality seems important, the package has no
reverse dependencies, and has a very low popcon index. So, I'd suggest
filing a bug for its removal.

It would be best if you could file this bug; otherwise, I can do it,
but please tell me if I should proceed (or, of course, if I should
_not_ do so).

 rant
 Also I own a HP 6710 series laptop that contains an AMD Seymour
 Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series discrete gfx chip that aparently can't
 be switched off and completely randomly switches itself on and sucks
 all power out of the batteries, so working off grid over more than
 an hour is practically impossible. A true piece of shit hw.
 /rant

Ugh. :(


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Re: [DRE-maint] Bug#722375: Updating the Ruby packaging policy for your package «libposixlock-ruby»

2013-09-14 Thread Tomas Pospisek

Hello Gunnar and dear Ruby maintainers,

I'm currently off, travelling the world. Possibly I will try to bring my 
Ruby package up to speed, but more probably I won't. Finding the time and 
calm, internet and AC current is too much of a rare coincidence.


rant
Also I own a HP 6710 series laptop that contains an AMD Seymour Radeon HD 
6400M/7400M Series discrete gfx chip that aparently can't be switched 
off and completely randomly switches itself on and sucks all power out 
of the batteries, so working off grid over more than an hour is 
practically impossible. A true piece of shit hw.

/rant

So please if anybody feels like fixing my package up, the please do so, 
thanks a lot and greets to you all,

*t

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, Gunnar Wolf wrote:


Package: libposixlock-ruby
Severity: normal
Usertags: ruby18-removal, update-ruby-policy

Hi Tomas Pospisek,

As you may know, during the Wheezy release cycle, the pkg-ruby-extras
team¹ has worked to update the Ruby libraries/modules/gems packages to
follow a new policy, much easier for the maintainers (as we no longer
require a separate package for each interpreter version), to the
archive (as it strongly reduces code duplication), and much more
sensical to the users (as they no longer require to fiddle with which
among many almost-identical binary packages to install).

While we achieved a quite good success level during the Wheezy cycle²,
we decided to act only on the packages maintained by the group — There
are many Ruby library packages maintained by kind people (like
yourself!) which have not yet adopted this new style. According to our
records, you are currently maintaining the package:

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