Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
On 08/01/11 at 00:07 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: 1) Team members We currently have 52 team members listed on alioth, which is a lot considered the number of active members. So, if you want to stay a member of the team (which is fine, I encourage you to continue to contribute to the team, and I'm also planning to stay a member for now!), please reply to this mail within the following two weeks, stating your alioth login. If you don't reply, you will be removed from the team. Hi, I just cleaned up the list of team members on alioth according to the replies we got. If you were removed, and intend to keep working in the team, it's of course perfectly fine to ask to be added back! The team has 6 DDs, which means that sponsorship requests should be easy to fullfill if everybody participates (hint hint). 2) Packages The team is currently Maintainer or Uploader for 169 packages. While we have some very actively (and well) maintained packages, it's quite clear that, for most of them, nobody has been caring about them for a long time. I committed to SVN a list of packages that nobody wants to maintain. I don't think that we need to act on them right now, but we should clearly address them during the wheezy cycle. - Lucas ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
Hi, Heh, thank you for your mail. I have a very clear memory that you were my first sponsor in Debian more than 5 years ago. (http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/feed2imap/news/20050816T174321Z.html) And it has always been a pleasure to work with you (we need to have some beers in FOSDEM). I think I should clarify my position too, since saying that I'm giving up, and then staying around and leading the discussion on the changes for wheezy is a bit confusing. I'm still deeply pissed off with many things related to Ruby, but the discussion following my resignation post motivated me again to work on *some* things. So I am going to work on things I care about, and that includes those deep changes planned for Wheezy. Regarding my involvement in this team, I will not fall in the trap of being the center point where most sponsorship requests go. I know that it's often very hard to find a sponsor inside Debian, and that sucks. But as a DD, it's also very hard to be constantly a bottleneck, and live with the feeling that we are not doing our jobs due to latencies elsewhere. Spending a lot of time addressing sponsorship requests prevents me from doing the fun things I'd like to do, too. Several DDs (complete list of people who replied in this thread: drazzib, gwolf, roberto, deepak, fourmond, noahm, paulvt) are member of this team, and I hope that they will handle their share of sponsorship requests. Also, I'd like the more experienced members of this team, even if they are not DDs, to dedicate some time to reviews. That way I can know that someone else already took a look at the changes. Additionally, some of them should really consider applying for being a DD. Finally, this is a team. When looking at sponsorship requests, I will prioritize people who are caring about the global status, and not only about maintaining their own packages. I think that's fair. Remember that caring about the global picture is a very important thing in Debian. On 25/01/11 at 18:39 +0100, Paul van Tilburg wrote: The following package is needed for ruby-gnome2, so it belongs to the one/many that will take that over, I guess: libcairo-ruby So far Arnaud Cornet has not replied, and ruby-gnome2 is still listed without any maintainer, so I'm a bit worried about those two packages. I guess these meta-pkgs don't require much work and they will be alright in the end: libruby-extras Is this package really needed? I'm not so sure it's that useful. - Lucas ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
Coin, Hello Ruby people :-). I've been quite silent since a while, needing rest after the gems fights and was not yet able to recover full motivation yet. Nevertheless, and even if i'm late to reply, i'm still interested in being in the team (login: duck), and hope to participate more this year. Thanks Lucas for your amazing past work. Even if we still have much work, we've got a not so bad Ruby basis for Squeeze thanks to you. I maintain a few Ruby packages: - activeldap - kwalify - libfacets-ruby - libfeedtools-ruby - libuuidtools-ruby - rbot and i intend to continue my work on them. I'm also still available for sponsoring request, from time to time. Quoting Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net: So far Arnaud Cornet has not replied, and ruby-gnome2 is still listed without any maintainer, so I'm a bit worried about those two packages. Arnaud is in some deep tired phase, and is willing to pass such kind of responsabilities onto other persons. Maintainer changes is already going on for some of his packages, but several are still missing good will. I'm personally taking care of webgen since a while, but as i don't use the GNOME desktop anymore, i can't really help for ruby-gnome2 besides sponsoring occasionally. I guess these meta-pkgs don't require much work and they will be alright in the end: libruby-extras Is this package really needed? I'm not so sure it's that useful. I personally find it quite practical, as i'm a lazy boy ;-). Regards. -- Marc Dequènes (Duck) pgpx1Y4HPHjW8.pgp Description: PGP Digital Signature ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
Lucas Nussbaum dijo [Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 09:45:11AM +0100]: (...) Regarding my involvement in this team, I will not fall in the trap of being the center point where most sponsorship requests go. I know that it's often very hard to find a sponsor inside Debian, and that sucks. But as a DD, it's also very hard to be constantly a bottleneck, and live with the feeling that we are not doing our jobs due to latencies elsewhere. Spending a lot of time addressing sponsorship requests prevents me from doing the fun things I'd like to do, too. Several DDs (complete list of people who replied in this thread: drazzib, gwolf, roberto, deepak, fourmond, noahm, paulvt) are member of this team, and I hope that they will handle their share of sponsorship requests. Also, I'd like the more experienced members of this team, even if they are not DDs, to dedicate some time to reviews. That way I can know that someone else already took a look at the changes. Additionally, some of them should really consider applying for being a DD. Finally, this is a team. When looking at sponsorship requests, I will prioritize people who are caring about the global status, and not only about maintaining their own packages. I think that's fair. Remember that caring about the global picture is a very important thing in Debian. FWIW, I am willing to do sponsoring. I very (_very_!) seldom get requests (and I won't sponsor packages that are just lying around in the repository, of course - I do require an explicit request). I assumed requests would appear on the IRC channel (to which I am again a regular listener), but have not seen them. Anyway - People, feel free to bug me for sponsorship requests. ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
Hello! ant0no-guest Its me. I going to package 2 tools: - Glog: https://github.com/antono/glog - Shellcast: https://github.com/red-brigade/shellcast I personally interested in bugfixes for some annoying libncurses-ruby bugs (#520374 and similar for 1.9.1). I'll also try to bake package for Gitorios some day (http://gitorious.org/) but cannot promise now. Frankly speaking I would like to see Gitorios in place of FusionForge used for alioth. But it just a dream. Thats all for now. Glad to see you all! Best regards! -- http://antono.info/ gopher://antono.info/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
At Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:07:05 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Hi Lucas, I will maintain following packages, as well as new packages which i will gonna push it after release.My alioth login id is deepak-guest. Please find the list below. Deepak Tripathi apenguinli...@gmail.com activeldap (U) capistrano (U) libcompass-ruby (U) libcomplearn-ruby libgsl-ruby (U) libhaml-ruby (U) libhtmlentities-ruby (U) libi18n-ruby (U) libinnate-ruby libmetaid-ruby libmixlib-cli-ruby (U) libnet-tftp-ruby libodbc-ruby (U) libopengl-ruby (U) libramaze-ruby librestclient-ruby (U) libsdl-ruby (U) libvalidatable-ruby libxml-parser-ruby (U) libzoom-ruby (U) Deepak Tripathi dee...@debian.org libaddressable-ruby libdataobjects-ruby -- |-| | Deepak Tripathi | | irc: irc.debian.org | | nick: deepak, gnumonk | | web: http://www.gnumonk.com | |-| pgpCueAixUpmH.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
On 11/01/11 at 21:47 +0530, Deepak Tripathi wrote: At Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:07:05 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Hi Lucas, I will maintain following packages, as well as new packages which i will gonna push it after release.My alioth login id is deepak-guest. Please find the list below. Deepak Tripathi apenguinli...@gmail.com activeldap (U) capistrano (U) libcompass-ruby (U) libcomplearn-ruby libgsl-ruby (U) libhaml-ruby (U) libhtmlentities-ruby (U) libi18n-ruby (U) libinnate-ruby libmetaid-ruby libmixlib-cli-ruby (U) libnet-tftp-ruby libodbc-ruby (U) libopengl-ruby (U) libramaze-ruby librestclient-ruby (U) libsdl-ruby (U) libvalidatable-ruby libxml-parser-ruby (U) libzoom-ruby (U) Deepak Tripathi dee...@debian.org libaddressable-ruby libdataobjects-ruby Thanks. I'm a bit surprised, though, because libxml-parser-ruby was NMUed recently, and libcompass-ruby was removed from squeeze. - Lucas ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
Hi, Yes you are right, I am co-maintainer of those packages, Here are the reason why i haven't took any action. 1) libxml had one file missing from upstream tar ball, after sending couple of mails to upstream author, I haven't received any reply from him till now, i would like upstream to understand this situation and update the tar ball or could have respond the mail so that i can make the patch and update to the system. 2) libcompass, I was busy with my official schedule and primary maintainer was agreed to remove it. Rest of my packages are bug free and couple of them i had taken release team permission and asked them to accept it. For ex , libaddressable-ruby, libdataobjects-ruby. I have couple of ITPs , So will be in full swing after release :) . -- dk On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.netwrote: On 11/01/11 at 21:47 +0530, Deepak Tripathi wrote: At Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:07:05 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Hi Lucas, I will maintain following packages, as well as new packages which i will gonna push it after release.My alioth login id is deepak-guest. Please find the list below. Deepak Tripathi apenguinli...@gmail.com activeldap (U) capistrano (U) libcompass-ruby (U) libcomplearn-ruby libgsl-ruby (U) libhaml-ruby (U) libhtmlentities-ruby (U) libi18n-ruby (U) libinnate-ruby libmetaid-ruby libmixlib-cli-ruby (U) libnet-tftp-ruby libodbc-ruby (U) libopengl-ruby (U) libramaze-ruby librestclient-ruby (U) libsdl-ruby (U) libvalidatable-ruby libxml-parser-ruby (U) libzoom-ruby (U) Deepak Tripathi dee...@debian.org libaddressable-ruby libdataobjects-ruby Thanks. I'm a bit surprised, though, because libxml-parser-ruby was NMUed recently, and libcompass-ruby was removed from squeeze. - Lucas ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
Hi Lucas, Excerpts from Lucas Nussbaum's message of 2011-01-08 00:07:05 +0100: So, if you want to stay a member of the team (which is fine, I encourage you to continue to contribute to the team, and I'm also planning to stay a member for now!), please reply to this mail within the following two weeks, stating your alioth login. If you don't reply, you will be removed from the team. My login is mstapelberg-guest and I’m still in. I don’t maintain any packages yet but I plan to do so after the freeze is over. Best regards, Michael ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
Even if I haven't been very active lately, I still care at least about the packages around RSpec and I'm currently working on packaging RSpec2 (Which might take some time...) tiber-guest / Tobias Grimm et...@debian.org libdifflcs-ruby libfakefs-ruby libheckle-ruby (U) libinline-ruby (U) libparsetree-ruby librspec-ruby libruby2ruby-ruby (U) libsexp-processor-ruby (U) ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 12:07:05AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: So, if you want to stay a member of the team (which is fine, I encourage you to continue to contribute to the team, and I'm also planning to stay a member for now!), please reply to this mail within the following two weeks, stating your alioth login. If you don't reply, you will be removed from the team. Lucas, Unfortunately, I only have time to maintain the packages for which I am already an uploader, but I do wish to remain a part of the team. My Alioth login is roberto. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
[DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
Hi, The pkg-ruby-extras group has existed for a long time. It serves an important purpose - but it has grown a bit crufty. This means, we have several people listed who are not active in the group anymore, and we have many packages nobody is taking care of. And that's not good. As you might know, I have decided to reduce my involvement in Debian Ruby (see http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=617 for details). I don't know yet what I will continue to do, and it might very well be nothing. During the last months, I feel that I was the main DD feeling responsible for the pkg-ruby-extras team. While leaving, I don't want to leave it in a bad state, so I'd like to clean up its state first. There are two sides of it, team members and packages. 1) Team members We currently have 52 team members listed on alioth, which is a lot considered the number of active members. So, if you want to stay a member of the team (which is fine, I encourage you to continue to contribute to the team, and I'm also planning to stay a member for now!), please reply to this mail within the following two weeks, stating your alioth login. If you don't reply, you will be removed from the team. For reference, here is the list of team members: acornet ant0no-guest ari beatle-guest binarymutant-guest brettg-guest btm-guest cilibrar daigo daiki-guest damog deepak-guest dmoerner-guest dnusinow drazzib duck filipe-guest flavorjones-guest florian-guest fourmond gothicx-guest gwolf jtimberman-guest kapouer-guest komar-guest lazzarello-guest leandronunes-guest lucas micah michi-guest mlc-guest mstapelberg-guest ondrej paulvt rnhurt-guest roberto ryan sanxiyn-guest seb sharky sjoerd smash-guest spamaps-guest spk-guest synrg terceiro-guest tiber-guest val-guest vinc-mai-guest wdaniels-guest zoso 2) Packages The team is currently Maintainer or Uploader for 169 packages. While we have some very actively (and well) maintained packages, it's quite clear that, for most of them, nobody has been caring about them for a long time. Please reply to this mail, stating which packages you care about and want to continue to maintain as part of the team. Also, if you worked on any of the mentioned packages and do not feel it is needed anymore, please tell me so we can remove it more easily. I will orphan the packages without someone willing to maintain them — And, if they have not been part of any stable release and have no rdepends, I will request the release managers to remove them from Squeeze (and later on, possibly from Debian). Full list of source packages: (dd-list below for convenience) activeldap camping capistrano chef coderay compass-susy-plugin ctioga dnsruby feed2imap hobix kwalify libaddressable-ruby libamazonec2-ruby libbackgroundrb-ruby libbarby-ruby libbluecloth-ruby libbreakpoint-ruby libbuilder-ruby libbunny-ruby libcairo-ruby libcmd-ruby libcmdparse2-ruby libcolor-tools-ruby libcommandline-ruby libcompass-ruby libcomplearn-ruby libdaemons-ruby libdataobjects-mysql-ruby libdataobjects-postgres-ruby libdataobjects-ruby libdataobjects-sqlite3-ruby libdb-ruby libdbus-ruby libdifflcs-ruby libevent-loop-ruby libeventmachine-ruby libextlib-ruby libfacets-ruby libfakefs-ruby libfeedparser-ruby libfeedtools-ruby libferret-ruby libffi-ruby libflexmock-ruby libform-validator-ruby libfssm-ruby libfusefs-ruby libgd-ruby libgemplugin-ruby libgems-ruby libgettext-activerecord-ruby libgettext-rails-ruby libglobalhotkeys-ruby libgnuplot-ruby libgooglecharts-ruby libgpgme-ruby libgruff-ruby libgsl-ruby libhaml-ruby libheckle-ruby libhighline-ruby libhmac-ruby libhpricot-ruby libhtmlentities-ruby libhttp-access2-ruby libi18n-ruby libihelp-ruby libimage-science-ruby libinline-ruby libinnate-ruby libinotify-ruby libintl-gettext-ruby libjson-ruby libkrb5-ruby liblocale-rails-ruby liblog4r-ruby libmarkaby-ruby libmaruku-ruby libmemcache-client-ruby libmetaid-ruby libmixlib-authentication-ruby libmixlib-cli-ruby libmixlib-config-ruby libmixlib-log-ruby libmmap-ruby libmocha-ruby libnarray-ruby libnet-scp-ruby libnet-sftp2-ruby libnet-ssh-gateway-ruby libnet-ssh-multi-ruby libnet-ssh2-ruby libnet-tftp-ruby libnokogiri-ruby libodbc-ruby libogginfo-ruby libole-ruby libopen4-ruby libopengl-ruby libopenid-ruby libpacket-ruby libparsetree-ruby libpassword-ruby libpcap-ruby libpdf-writer-ruby libprawn-ruby libprogressbar-ruby librack-ruby libramaze-ruby librb-inotify-ruby librestclient-ruby librevolution-ruby librmagick-ruby librqrcode-ruby librspec-ruby libruby-extras libruby2ruby-ruby libsdl-ruby libserialport-ruby libsetup-ruby libsexp-processor-ruby libshoulda-ruby libsinatra-ruby libspreadsheet-ruby libstomp-ruby libsvg-ruby libsvm-ruby libsystemu-ruby libterm-ansicolor-ruby libtermios-ruby libtext-format-ruby libtioga-ruby libtorrent-ruby libtransaction-simple-ruby libtzinfo-ruby libusb-ruby libuuidtools-ruby libvalidatable-ruby libwill-paginate-ruby libwirble-ruby libwww-delicious-ruby libwww-mechanize-ruby libxml-parser-ruby libxml-ruby libxmpp4r-ruby
Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
Jérémy Lal kapo...@melix.org redmine redmine-plugin-botsfilter I intend to keep working on it, and will help packaging rails and dependencies, if needed. ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
Roberto C. Sánchez dijo [Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 06:10:27PM -0500]: Lucas, Unfortunately, I only have time to maintain the packages for which I am already an uploader, but I do wish to remain a part of the team. My Alioth login is roberto. Roberto, and should all of the packages listed for you be kept? As per Lucas' mail: libflexmock-ruby (U) libi18n-ruby (U) libmemcache-client-ruby (U) libopen4-ruby (U) libtzinfo-ruby (U) ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
Hi,
I am still in.
As for the packages for which I am listed as {,co}maintainer,
I'm interested in keeping them:
libbarby-ruby
libcolor-tools-ruby
libevent-loop-ruby
libgettext-activerecord-ruby
libgettext-rails-ruby
libgpgme-ruby
libhaml-ruby
libimage-science-ruby
liblocale-rails-ruby
liblog4r-ruby (U)
libnet-scp-ruby (U)
libnet-sftp2-ruby (U)
libogginfo-ruby
libole-ruby
librqrcode-ruby
libspreadsheet-ruby
libgruff-ruby
libpdf-writer-ruby
librmagick-ruby (U)
libtransaction-simple-ruby
libwill-paginate-ruby
libwirble-ruby
mongrel (U)
mongrel-cluster (U)
Added my name to them when I fixed something but cannot consider
myself as their real maintainer (and would prefer not to become):
libdb-ruby (U)
libtzinfo-ruby (U)
libhttp-access2-ruby (U)
libinline-ruby (U)
libpacket-ruby (U)
libwww-mechanize-ruby (U)
ruby-pkg-tools (U)
Have requested its removal from Squeeze, and am considering filing
removal from the archive:
libprawn-ruby
libxtemplate-ruby1.8 (U)
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Re: [DRE-maint] [IMPORTANT] future of pkg-ruby-extras
Lucas Nussbaum dijo [Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 12:11:54AM +0100]: libsetup-ruby (U) ncurses-ruby (U) Adding myself as an uploader to both in SVN. ___ Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers mailing list Pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
