Re: ipykernel to recommend stuff?

[Miro Hrončok]

On 5.4.2017 11:03, Miro Hrončok wrote:

On 5.4.2017 10:31, Christian Dersch wrote:

On 04/05/2017 08:17 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote:

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Nick Coghlan  wrote:

On 5 April 2017 at 05:00, Miro Hrončok  wrote:

Hi,

I got this idea that the python{2,3}-ipykernel packages could
recommend some
modules useful to use in the Jupyter Notebook.

Recommends:
  * numpy
  * matplotlib

Not sure if should be recommended or suggested:
  * pillow
  * scikit-image
  * scikit-learn
  * scipy
  * statsmodels
  * sympy
  * pandas

I'd move `pandas` into the "recommends", but `suggests` seems
reasonable to me for the others.

Note that Suggests are "ignored" by DNF, it is used only for
"favoring" packages if there are multiple provides.


Nice :) At least scipy (which is a core package just like numpy and
matplotlib) and pandas should be recommended. For the Classroom Lab I
think it would be nice to have the other packages too for scientific
Python classes, but I think they should be added via a group or the
kickstart itself to avoid bothering anyone who installs ipykernel.


OK, proposal:

  Recommend from pythonX-ipykernel:

pythonX-matplotlib
pythonX-numpy
pythonX-pandas
pythonX-scipy

  Have @pythonX-science groups in comps with:

(all of the above)
pythonX-pillow
pythonX-scikit-{image,learn}
pythonX-statsmodels
{python3-,}sympy (there's no python2-sympy)
pythonX-matplotlib-tk and python3-pillow-tk conventionalized by X11*

  Add both comps groups to the Python Classroom Lab.

* X11 is also installed when we run on Wayland.



After talking to others (notably pviktori), I've decided to:

 * add pillow to the recommends as well
 * only create and include the python-science group for python 3

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Re: ipykernel to recommend stuff?

[Miro Hrončok]

On 5.4.2017 11:03, Miro Hrončok wrote:

pythonX-matplotlib-tk and python3-pillow-tk conventionalized by X11*


should have been "conditionalized"
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Re: ipykernel to recommend stuff?

[Thomas Spura]

Christian Dersch  schrieb am Mi., 5. Apr. 2017 um
11:19 Uhr:

> On 04/05/2017 11:03 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> >
> > OK, proposal:
> >
> >   Recommend from pythonX-ipykernel:
> >
> > pythonX-matplotlib
> > pythonX-numpy
> > pythonX-pandas
> > pythonX-scipy
> >
> >   Have @pythonX-science groups in comps with:
> >
> > (all of the above)
> > pythonX-pillow
> > pythonX-scikit-{image,learn}
> > pythonX-statsmodels
> > {python3-,}sympy (there's no python2-sympy)
> > pythonX-matplotlib-tk and python3-pillow-tk conventionalized by X11*
> >
> >   Add both comps groups to the Python Classroom Lab.
> >
> > * X11 is also installed when we run on Wayland.
> >
>
> +1 for that proposal!
>

+1, sounds good!

Best,
   Thomas
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Re: ipykernel to recommend stuff?

[Christian Dersch]

On 04/05/2017 11:03 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote:


OK, proposal:

  Recommend from pythonX-ipykernel:

pythonX-matplotlib
pythonX-numpy
pythonX-pandas
pythonX-scipy

  Have @pythonX-science groups in comps with:

(all of the above)
pythonX-pillow
pythonX-scikit-{image,learn}
pythonX-statsmodels
{python3-,}sympy (there's no python2-sympy)
pythonX-matplotlib-tk and python3-pillow-tk conventionalized by X11*

  Add both comps groups to the Python Classroom Lab.

* X11 is also installed when we run on Wayland.



+1 for that proposal!


Greetings,
Christian
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Re: ipykernel to recommend stuff?

[Miro Hrončok]

On 5.4.2017 10:31, Christian Dersch wrote:

On 04/05/2017 08:17 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote:

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Nick Coghlan  wrote:

On 5 April 2017 at 05:00, Miro Hrončok  wrote:

Hi,

I got this idea that the python{2,3}-ipykernel packages could
recommend some
modules useful to use in the Jupyter Notebook.

Recommends:
  * numpy
  * matplotlib

Not sure if should be recommended or suggested:
  * pillow
  * scikit-image
  * scikit-learn
  * scipy
  * statsmodels
  * sympy
  * pandas

I'd move `pandas` into the "recommends", but `suggests` seems
reasonable to me for the others.

Note that Suggests are "ignored" by DNF, it is used only for
"favoring" packages if there are multiple provides.


Nice :) At least scipy (which is a core package just like numpy and
matplotlib) and pandas should be recommended. For the Classroom Lab I
think it would be nice to have the other packages too for scientific
Python classes, but I think they should be added via a group or the
kickstart itself to avoid bothering anyone who installs ipykernel.


OK, proposal:

  Recommend from pythonX-ipykernel:

pythonX-matplotlib
pythonX-numpy
pythonX-pandas
pythonX-scipy

  Have @pythonX-science groups in comps with:

(all of the above)
pythonX-pillow
pythonX-scikit-{image,learn}
pythonX-statsmodels
{python3-,}sympy (there's no python2-sympy)
pythonX-matplotlib-tk and python3-pillow-tk conventionalized by X11*

  Add both comps groups to the Python Classroom Lab.

* X11 is also installed when we run on Wayland.

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Re: ipykernel to recommend stuff?

[Christian Dersch]

On 04/05/2017 08:17 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote:

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Nick Coghlan  wrote:

On 5 April 2017 at 05:00, Miro Hrončok  wrote:

Hi,

I got this idea that the python{2,3}-ipykernel packages could recommend some
modules useful to use in the Jupyter Notebook.

Recommends:
  * numpy
  * matplotlib

Not sure if should be recommended or suggested:
  * pillow
  * scikit-image
  * scikit-learn
  * scipy
  * statsmodels
  * sympy
  * pandas

I'd move `pandas` into the "recommends", but `suggests` seems
reasonable to me for the others.

Note that Suggests are "ignored" by DNF, it is used only for
"favoring" packages if there are multiple provides.

Nice :) At least scipy (which is a core package just like numpy and 
matplotlib) and pandas should be recommended. For the Classroom Lab I 
think it would be nice to have the other packages too for scientific 
Python classes, but I think they should be added via a group or the 
kickstart itself to avoid bothering anyone who installs ipykernel.


Greetings,
Christian
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Re: ipykernel to recommend stuff?

[Igor Gnatenko]

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Nick Coghlan  wrote:
> On 5 April 2017 at 05:00, Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I got this idea that the python{2,3}-ipykernel packages could recommend some
>> modules useful to use in the Jupyter Notebook.
>>
>> Recommends:
>>  * numpy
>>  * matplotlib
>>
>> Not sure if should be recommended or suggested:
>>  * pillow
>>  * scikit-image
>>  * scikit-learn
>>  * scipy
>>  * statsmodels
>>  * sympy
>>  * pandas
>
> I'd move `pandas` into the "recommends", but `suggests` seems
> reasonable to me for the others.
Note that Suggests are "ignored" by DNF, it is used only for
"favoring" packages if there are multiple provides.
>
> Definite +1 from me for the general idea though.
>
> Cheers,
> Nick.
>
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