[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T242081: Pywikibot fails to access Wikidata due to high maxlag lately

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  Change 678580 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  
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  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/678580

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  Change 678580 had a related patch set uploaded (by Xqt; author: Xqt):
  
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  Change 635953 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
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  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/635953

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  Change 635953 had a related patch set uploaded (by Xqt; owner: Xqt):
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  Change 576813 **abandoned** by Xqt:
  [pywikibot/core@master] [bugfix] Increase maxlag parameter after each wait 
cycle
  
  Reason:
  Obviously declined. Solved upstream.
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/576813

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T242081: Pywikibot fails to access Wikidata due to high maxlag lately

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  The purpose of checking maxlag is to slow the rate of EDITS to Wikidata. I 
don't understand why Pywikibot is using it as a reason not to READ data. There 
are surely a vast number of other applications out there that read from 
Wikidata (and query WDQS) without checking maxlag!

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  I, in my volunteer capacity and out of frustration, requested bot flag of two 
bots that each edited 50K in the past 12 hours (= 2 per second) to be revoked. 
Out of interest of anyone who wants to participate: 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Request_to_revoke_bot_flags_of_Edoderoobot_and_LargeDatasetBot

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T242081: Pywikibot fails to access Wikidata due to high maxlag lately

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  In T242081#6244751 , 
@Alchimista wrote:
  
  > Any update on this? MaxlagTimeoutError is continuously appearing, is there 
any temporary solution?
  
  A proposal was made with 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/pywikibot/core/+/576813/ on pywikibot side.

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  Any update on this? MaxlagTimeoutError is continuously appearing, is there 
any temporary solution?

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  But for Wikidata maxlag issue a higher number of retry. For example for a lag 
of one hour we need 180-720 retries (this is only an extreme situation).

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T242081: Pywikibot fails to access Wikidata due to high maxlag lately

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  In T242081#5853949 , 
@Dvorapa wrote:
  
  >   $ python pwb.py shell
  >   Welcome to the Pywikibot interactive shell!
  >   >>> s=pywikibot.Site('wikidata', 'wikidata')
  >   >>> s
  >   DataSite("wikidata", "wikidata")
  >   >>> s.namespaces
  >   Sleeping for 5.0 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:13:51
  >   Sleeping for 5.0 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:13:56
  >   Sleeping for 5.0 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:14:01
  >   Sleeping for 5.0 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:14:07
  >   Sleeping for 6.0 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:14:12
  >   Sleeping for 7.2 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:14:19
  >   Sleeping for 8.4 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:14:26
  >   Sleeping for 9.6 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:14:35
  >   Sleeping for 10.8 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:14:45
  >   Sleeping for 12.0 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:14:56
  >   Sleeping for 13.2 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:15:08
  >   Sleeping for 14.4 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:15:21
  >   Sleeping for 15.6 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:15:36
  >   Sleeping for 16.8 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:15:52
  >   Sleeping for 18.0 seconds, 2020-02-05 22:16:09
  >   Traceback (most recent call last):
  > File "", line 1, in 
  > File "/home/pavel/pywikibot/pywikibot/site.py", line 1019, in namespaces
  >   self._namespaces = NamespacesDict(self._build_namespaces())
  > File "/home/pavel/pywikibot/pywikibot/site.py", line 2618, in 
_build_namespaces
  >   for nsdata in self.siteinfo.get('namespaces', cache=False).values():
  > File "/home/pavel/pywikibot/pywikibot/site.py", line 1660, in get
  >   preloaded = self._get_general(key, expiry)
  > File "/home/pavel/pywikibot/pywikibot/site.py", line 1606, in 
_get_general
  >   default_info = self._get_siteinfo(props, expiry)
  > File "/home/pavel/pywikibot/pywikibot/site.py", line 1529, in 
_get_siteinfo
  >   data = request.submit()
  > File "/home/pavel/pywikibot/pywikibot/data/api.py", line 2243, in submit
  >   self._data = super(CachedRequest, self).submit()
  > File "/home/pavel/pywikibot/pywikibot/data/api.py", line 2089, in submit
  >   raise TimeoutError(
  >   pywikibot.exceptions.TimeoutError: Maximum retries attempted due to 
maxlag without success.
  >
  > LOL
  
  Please, make Pywikibot retries infinitely by default unless in unit tests. 
Such a setting (with max_retries) will break many bots.

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T242081: Pywikibot fails to access Wikidata due to high maxlag lately

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  I would personally either use maxlag as waittime (3 s server lag > wait 3 s, 
20 s server lag > wait 20 s), which is against the maxlag usage recommendations 
from Wikimedia; or I would avoid maxlag on read API actions, as was suggested 
by several WD developers in the task.

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  In T242081#6060292 , 
@Masti wrote:
  
  > the problem is not on pywikibot side but rather on Wikidata side. Wikidata 
API is not able to handle the traffic.
  
  I made several proposals how to solve it on pywikibot side. Our tests shows 
that bots cannot work on wikidata currently and if the do I assume they don't 
care about maxlag=5 parameter a lot.

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  the problem is not ob pywikibot side but rather on Wikidata side. Wikidata 
API is not able to handle the traffic.

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  Change 569277 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  [pywikibot/core@master] [tests] skip tests if they failed due to maxlag 
timeout
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/569277

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T242081: Pywikibot fails to access Wikidata due to high maxlag lately

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  Change 576813 had a related patch set uploaded (by Xqt; owner: Xqt):
  [pywikibot/core@master] [bugfix] Increase maxlag parameter after each wait 
cycle
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/576813

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T242081: Pywikibot fails to access Wikidata due to high maxlag lately

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  Can't we merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/pywikibot/core/+/569277/ 
until the upstream issue is solved or we have a common strategy how to use 
maxlag at wikidata to pass our tests. A way would be to increase maxlag 
parameter gradually after each wait cycle; the wait cycle is increasing already 
with the previous patch.

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