Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question

2024-04-11 Thread Qmail

Hi.

During my upgrade from Centos 7 (using Mariadb) to Rocky 8 I found that 
Mariadb had removed libmysqlclient and made their own libmariadbclient 
(during the migration, using Eric's nice scripts, the scripts stopped 
due to missing libmysqlclient.so - and yes I did copy/paste but no).


Libmysqlclient is written in C and used for programs to connect to Mysql 
and up to the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - newer Mariadb versions 
uses/wants the libmariadbclient to commmunicate.


So You may/can use Mariadb for Qmail up to Mariadb version 10.3.35 - at 
least I did not have any issues using Mariadb for many years..


Some users on the net writes that it should be possible to link 
libmysqlclient to libmariadbclient and that may solve the issue - I did 
try some different ways but did not succeed and moved back to Mysql from 
my Mariadb and had the migrationprocess done nicely.



At least thats my experience/knowledge so far


/Finn


Den 11-04-2024 kl. 16:41 skrev William Silverstein:

I am a little confused. Does this mean that Mariadb should not be used
with QMT?

On Thu, April 11, 2024 7:22 am, Eric Broch wrote:

I saw no reason to maintain two versions of the software.


On 4/11/2024 3:26 AM, Qmail wrote:

FYI

When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that
the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is  the last version compliant
with Qmail software.

I think recall it is libmysqlclient
that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors.

/Finn


Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White:

Hi Eric,
   Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL
and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This
is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both.

--
regards
Anthony White



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Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question

2024-04-11 Thread Tony White

Hi Folks,
  MariaDB is no longer a drop in replacement for MySQL
as of v8.0 (MySQL). I moved to MariaDB fairly soon after
it was released. Many reasons to, but after Oracle bought them
I thought we might see it die or become another proprietary
product. Since then, changes in MySQL have not induced me to
return to it. There are many reasons, for me at least,
to continue with MariaDB. Many of which can be seen on the web
in the numerous comparisons. None of which MySQL seems to
stand out in.
Yes, QMT still works perfectly with MariaDB and in all my
instances better.

Thanks Eric. I had not realised the duality of the RPMs for the
two RDBMS. I imagined they would be the same. My bad.

Again Thank you Eric.

regards
Anthony White

On 12/4/24 00:54, Eric Broch wrote:
Honestly, I'm not sure. I simply chose MySQL because it was getting time consuming maintaining two versions of the rpm 
spec (qmail,vpopmail,ezmlm,vqadmin,qmailadmin) files one for Maria another for MySQL.


I believed and still believe that the vpopmail db from one will migrate 
seamlessly to the other.

On 4/11/2024 8:41 AM, William Silverstein wrote:

I am a little confused. Does this mean that Mariadb should not be used
with QMT?

On Thu, April 11, 2024 7:22 am, Eric Broch wrote:

I saw no reason to maintain two versions of the software.


On 4/11/2024 3:26 AM, Qmail wrote:

FYI

When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that
the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is  the last version compliant
with Qmail software.

I think recall it is libmysqlclient
that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors.

/Finn


Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White:

Hi Eric,
   Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL
and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This
is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both.

--
regards
Anthony White


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Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question

2024-04-11 Thread Eric Broch
Honestly, I'm not sure. I simply chose MySQL because it was getting time 
consuming maintaining two versions of the rpm spec 
(qmail,vpopmail,ezmlm,vqadmin,qmailadmin) files one for Maria another 
for MySQL.


I believed and still believe that the vpopmail db from one will migrate 
seamlessly to the other.


On 4/11/2024 8:41 AM, William Silverstein wrote:

I am a little confused. Does this mean that Mariadb should not be used
with QMT?

On Thu, April 11, 2024 7:22 am, Eric Broch wrote:

I saw no reason to maintain two versions of the software.


On 4/11/2024 3:26 AM, Qmail wrote:

FYI

When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that
the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is  the last version compliant
with Qmail software.

I think recall it is libmysqlclient
that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors.

/Finn


Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White:

Hi Eric,
   Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL
and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This
is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both.

--
regards
Anthony White


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Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question

2024-04-11 Thread William Silverstein
I am a little confused. Does this mean that Mariadb should not be used
with QMT?

On Thu, April 11, 2024 7:22 am, Eric Broch wrote:
> I saw no reason to maintain two versions of the software.
>
>
> On 4/11/2024 3:26 AM, Qmail wrote:
>> FYI
>>
>> When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that
>> the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is  the last version compliant
>> with Qmail software.
>>
>> I think recall it is libmysqlclient
>> that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors.
>>
>> /Finn
>>
>>
>> Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White:
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>    Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL
>>> and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This
>>> is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both.
>>>
>>> --
>>> regards
>>> Anthony White
>>>
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Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question

2024-04-11 Thread Tony White

Thanks for the reply.

regards
Anthony White

On 12/4/24 00:22, Eric Broch wrote:

I saw no reason to maintain two versions of the software.


On 4/11/2024 3:26 AM, Qmail wrote:

FYI

When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that
the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is  the last version compliant with Qmail 
software.

I think recall it is libmysqlclient
that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors.

/Finn


Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White:

Hi Eric,
   Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL
and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This
is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both.

--
regards
Anthony White



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Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question

2024-04-11 Thread Eric Broch

I saw no reason to maintain two versions of the software.


On 4/11/2024 3:26 AM, Qmail wrote:

FYI

When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that
the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is  the last version compliant 
with Qmail software.


I think recall it is libmysqlclient
that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors.

/Finn


Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White:

Hi Eric,
   Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL
and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This
is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both.

--
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Anthony White



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Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question

2024-04-11 Thread Qmail

FYI

When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that
the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is  the last version compliant with 
Qmail software.


I think recall it is libmysqlclient
that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors.

/Finn


Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White:

Hi Eric,
   Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL
and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This
is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both.

--
regards
Anthony White



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