Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question
Hi. During my upgrade from Centos 7 (using Mariadb) to Rocky 8 I found that Mariadb had removed libmysqlclient and made their own libmariadbclient (during the migration, using Eric's nice scripts, the scripts stopped due to missing libmysqlclient.so - and yes I did copy/paste but no). Libmysqlclient is written in C and used for programs to connect to Mysql and up to the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - newer Mariadb versions uses/wants the libmariadbclient to commmunicate. So You may/can use Mariadb for Qmail up to Mariadb version 10.3.35 - at least I did not have any issues using Mariadb for many years.. Some users on the net writes that it should be possible to link libmysqlclient to libmariadbclient and that may solve the issue - I did try some different ways but did not succeed and moved back to Mysql from my Mariadb and had the migrationprocess done nicely. At least thats my experience/knowledge so far /Finn Den 11-04-2024 kl. 16:41 skrev William Silverstein: I am a little confused. Does this mean that Mariadb should not be used with QMT? On Thu, April 11, 2024 7:22 am, Eric Broch wrote: I saw no reason to maintain two versions of the software. On 4/11/2024 3:26 AM, Qmail wrote: FYI When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is the last version compliant with Qmail software. I think recall it is libmysqlclient that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors. /Finn Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White: Hi Eric,   Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both. -- regards Anthony White - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question
Hi Folks, MariaDB is no longer a drop in replacement for MySQL as of v8.0 (MySQL). I moved to MariaDB fairly soon after it was released. Many reasons to, but after Oracle bought them I thought we might see it die or become another proprietary product. Since then, changes in MySQL have not induced me to return to it. There are many reasons, for me at least, to continue with MariaDB. Many of which can be seen on the web in the numerous comparisons. None of which MySQL seems to stand out in. Yes, QMT still works perfectly with MariaDB and in all my instances better. Thanks Eric. I had not realised the duality of the RPMs for the two RDBMS. I imagined they would be the same. My bad. Again Thank you Eric. regards Anthony White On 12/4/24 00:54, Eric Broch wrote: Honestly, I'm not sure. I simply chose MySQL because it was getting time consuming maintaining two versions of the rpm spec (qmail,vpopmail,ezmlm,vqadmin,qmailadmin) files one for Maria another for MySQL. I believed and still believe that the vpopmail db from one will migrate seamlessly to the other. On 4/11/2024 8:41 AM, William Silverstein wrote: I am a little confused. Does this mean that Mariadb should not be used with QMT? On Thu, April 11, 2024 7:22 am, Eric Broch wrote: I saw no reason to maintain two versions of the software. On 4/11/2024 3:26 AM, Qmail wrote: FYI When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is the last version compliant with Qmail software. I think recall it is libmysqlclient that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors. /Finn Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White: Hi Eric,   Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both. -- regards Anthony White - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question
Honestly, I'm not sure. I simply chose MySQL because it was getting time consuming maintaining two versions of the rpm spec (qmail,vpopmail,ezmlm,vqadmin,qmailadmin) files one for Maria another for MySQL. I believed and still believe that the vpopmail db from one will migrate seamlessly to the other. On 4/11/2024 8:41 AM, William Silverstein wrote: I am a little confused. Does this mean that Mariadb should not be used with QMT? On Thu, April 11, 2024 7:22 am, Eric Broch wrote: I saw no reason to maintain two versions of the software. On 4/11/2024 3:26 AM, Qmail wrote: FYI When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is the last version compliant with Qmail software. I think recall it is libmysqlclient that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors. /Finn Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White: Hi Eric,   Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both. -- regards Anthony White - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question
I am a little confused. Does this mean that Mariadb should not be used with QMT? On Thu, April 11, 2024 7:22 am, Eric Broch wrote: > I saw no reason to maintain two versions of the software. > > > On 4/11/2024 3:26 AM, Qmail wrote: >> FYI >> >> When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that >> the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is the last version compliant >> with Qmail software. >> >> I think recall it is libmysqlclient >> that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors. >> >> /Finn >> >> >> Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White: >>> Hi Eric, >>>   Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL >>> and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This >>> is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both. >>> >>> -- >>> regards >>> Anthony White >>> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com >> For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com > For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com > > -- William G. Silverstein, Esq. Litigation Counsel Licensed in California. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question
Thanks for the reply. regards Anthony White On 12/4/24 00:22, Eric Broch wrote: I saw no reason to maintain two versions of the software. On 4/11/2024 3:26 AM, Qmail wrote: FYI When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is the last version compliant with Qmail software. I think recall it is libmysqlclient that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors. /Finn Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White: Hi Eric, Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both. -- regards Anthony White - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question
I saw no reason to maintain two versions of the software. On 4/11/2024 3:26 AM, Qmail wrote: FYI When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is the last version compliant with Qmail software. I think recall it is libmysqlclient that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors. /Finn Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White: Hi Eric, Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both. -- regards Anthony White - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] MySQL conversion to MariaDB question
FYI When I did roll on to Rocky8 and now Rocky 9 I found out that the 10.3.35-MariaDB Server version - is the last version compliant with Qmail software. I think recall it is libmysqlclient that no longer is compliant and therefore causing errors. /Finn Den 11-04-2024 kl. 08:00 skrev Tony White: Hi Eric, Is there a specific reason you do not offer both MySQL and MariaDB during the install/setup of QMT please? This is for Rocky 9 only 8 offers both. -- regards Anthony White - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com