Re: [R-sig-Debian] R 4.0 for ARM processors

2020-07-16 Thread Paul Teetor
@Johannes - Thank you for your suggestion. I see the wisdom in it. I like 
having pre-built binaries because I'm lazy; but in this case, being lazy is 
causing too much work.

@Patrice - Thanks for sharing the story and those links. It seems the Odroid is 
like the RPi 3. The newer RPi 4 has (up to) 4 GB of memory, so I hope I won't 
need 12 boards! (PS - It's pretty cool that someone made a midi sequencer from 
their Odroid. I never thought of using my RPi that way.)

Paul Teetor, Elgin, IL USA
http://quantdevel.com/public


On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 02:06:11 AM CDT, Patrice Kiener 
 wrote: 


2 years ago at one Meetup in Paris, Marc Girondot, professor at 
University Paris-Saclay, presented his cluster built with 12 Odroid 
(equivalent to Rapsberry Pi). The stack was almost the same size than 
your picture as there was no fan and a narrower distance between each 
PCB card. There were many more cables. For a total cost of less than 
1000 € and an electrical consumption reduced by a factor of 7, he got 
the same calculation capabilities than the most expensive Intel i7 
processor. He used an Arch Linux distribution and Spark to distribute 
the load to every processor and then centralize the results to one 
processor equipped with a keyboard, a mouse, a screen and a hard disk.

https://www.meetup.com/fr-FR/rparis/events/252405360/
https://www.minimachines.net/actu/avec-lodroid-c2-hardkernel-tient-un-vrai-concurrent-a-la-rasperry-pi-3-38411
https://max2.ese.u-psud.fr/epc/conservation/index.html
https://www.ese.universite-paris-saclay.fr/en/team-members/marc-girondot/


Patrice


>> My RPi cluster sits on the file cabinet next to my desk, all four 
boards. Yes, you could argue that it's merely a toy but it's bigger 
and cheaper than the AWS box that currently hosts my web site, RStudio 
server, and Shiny server!

> Got it. Missed the cluster part earlier and then confused myself 
looking for
arm64 16core machines. There aren't any :)

>> For the truly curious, you can view my RPi cluster here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kALwoYCVxJ32VgxEA

> Neat :)  Very geek chic!


Patrice



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Re: [R-sig-Debian] R 4.0 for ARM processors

2020-07-16 Thread Patrice Kiener


2 years ago at one Meetup in Paris, Marc Girondot, professor at 
University Paris-Saclay, presented his cluster built with 12 Odroid 
(equivalent to Rapsberry Pi). The stack was almost the same size than 
your picture as there was no fan and a narrower distance between each 
PCB card. There were many more cables. For a total cost of less than 
1000 € and an electrical consumption reduced by a factor of 7, he got 
the same calculation capabilities than the most expensive Intel i7 
processor. He used an Arch Linux distribution and Spark to distribute 
the load to every processor and then centralize the results to one 
processor equipped with a keyboard, a mouse, a screen and a hard disk.

https://www.meetup.com/fr-FR/rparis/events/252405360/
https://www.minimachines.net/actu/avec-lodroid-c2-hardkernel-tient-un-vrai-concurrent-a-la-rasperry-pi-3-38411
https://max2.ese.u-psud.fr/epc/conservation/index.html
https://www.ese.universite-paris-saclay.fr/en/team-members/marc-girondot/


Patrice


 >> My RPi cluster sits on the file cabinet next to my desk, all four 
boards. Yes, you could argue that it's merely a toy but it's bigger 
and cheaper than the AWS box that currently hosts my web site, RStudio 
server, and Shiny server!

 > Got it. Missed the cluster part earlier and then confused myself 
looking for
arm64 16core machines. There aren't any :)

 >> For the truly curious, you can view my RPi cluster here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kALwoYCVxJ32VgxEA

 > Neat :)  Very geek chic!


Patrice



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Re: [R-sig-Debian] R 4.0 for ARM processors

2020-07-16 Thread Johannes Ranke
Am Mittwoch, 15. Juli 2020, 22:12:08 CEST schrieb Dirk Eddelbuettel:
> On 15 July 2020 at 19:44, Paul Teetor wrote:
> | H. Perhaps I'm using the wrong terminology. My logic is: (1) I am
> | running Ubuntu focal on the cluster.
> I am with you so far.
> 
> | (2) Ubuntu focal is built on Debian bullseye but
> 
> Not really. Ubuntu does their own thing, and their own snapshots.
> 
> There is no relationship to Debian _stable_ releases.  They take sources
> from Debian unstable and then do their thing.  Which sometimes is minor
> variation, often no change, but sometimes a lot more (i.e. snaps, different
> boot stuff, different window manager, fonts, branding, software store,
> alliances with third parties, paid-for patent technology (they always
> included mp3 players).
> 
> In short, I think you started from the wrong gate here.

I think it would be preferable to add to your /etc/apt/sources.list

  deb-src https://cloud.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu focal-cran40/

to get access to the source packages for R 4.0.2, and then do

  sudo apt update
  sudo apt build-dep r-base

and

  sudo apt source -b r-base

to build these on your arm cluster for your architecture. Of course you will 
need to rebuild after R releases to keep up to date. 

Johannes

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