Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problem with dot chart examples in my Mac

2021-02-08 Thread Simon Urbanek
More importantly, the message is a spurious message from the OS, not an error, 
and does not affect the functionality - the FAQ mentions how to disable those 
if they bother you since R has not control over those. If there is an actual 
bug to report, then please use the bug reporting system.

Cheers,
Simon


> On Feb 9, 2021, at 2:52 AM, Peter Dalgaard  wrote:
> 
> R is a collaborative project, not a commercial one. You may need to look 
> around or ask questions if you need something special. For the present case, 
> someone was complaining about a problem, for which the solution was in the 
> very same mailing list thread that he had himself contributed to. 
> 
> We have mechanisms in place for releasing updates in both source and binary 
> formats. The general procedure is outlined on CRAN. For source releases, 
> there is a daily snapshots link on the front page of CRAN. 
> 
> For Mac and Windows binaries, you need to go via the relevant links and for 
> Windows, select links under "Other builds". 
> 
> For Mac, the link is on the Mac page, where you need to find the line saying 
> "Information, tools and most recent daily builds of the R GUI, R-patched and 
> R-devel can be found at http://mac.R-project.org/;. 
> 
> What we do not do is to rush out full releases for any minor problem. We run 
> carefully orchestrated patch releases approximately 4 times per year, with 
> alpha/beta/RC cycles every time, so as to minimize the risk of destabilizing 
> the code.
> 
> - Peter D.
> 
>> On 8 Feb 2021, at 14:02 , Thomas Hopper  wrote:
>> 
>> Peter,
>> 
>> Your comment might be tongue-in-cheek, but taking it at face value, I’d like 
>> to point out that if there’s a fix and users don’t know about it, that’s a 
>> developer communication problem; not a user problem. Most developers deal 
>> with this problem by releasing updated versions of their software, which has 
>> not happened (current CRAN version is 1.73, which is what I’m using); I know 
>> of no developers who have been able to solve this communication problem by 
>> publishing notes about beta versions of their software to email lists that 
>> have low signal to noise ratios.
>> 
>> Seems like there’s a better way to get updates out if the developers want to 
>> avoid users repeatedly pointing out the same bugs.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 5:05 AM, Peter Dalgaard  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you are not aware of the fix, then you are not reading your email...
>>> 
>>> The NSButton message was reported to be gone in RGui v.7903, on r-help by 
>>> mal...@malonequantitative.com on Jan. 18. 
>>> 
>>> Current patch versions (https://mac.r-project.org) are at v.7922. Next 
>>> formal patch release (4.0.4) is on Feb 15, prerelease downloadable from 
>>> said page.
>>> 
>>> - Peter Dalgaard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 8 Feb 2021, at 05:47 , Gregory Coats via R-SIG-Mac 
  wrote:
 
 Tom Hopper,
 On Jan 8, 2021, I first reported that R on Mac gave the error message you 
 reported today.
 We R Mac users are all getting this error. It is now a month later. I am 
 not aware of any fix.
 Greg Coats
 
 2021-01-07 22:58:42.997 R[8311:37566]
 Warning: Expected min height of view: 
 () 
 to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.00. 
 This error will be logged once per view in violation.
 
> On Feb 7, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Tom Hopper  wrote:
 
 
 I'm also seeing the following error:
 2021-02-07 14:41:15.950 R[4408:267051] 
 Warning: Expected min height of view: 
 () 
 to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.00. 
 This error will be logged once per view in violation.
 
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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problem with dot chart examples in my Mac

2021-02-08 Thread Peter Dalgaard
R is a collaborative project, not a commercial one. You may need to look around 
or ask questions if you need something special. For the present case, someone 
was complaining about a problem, for which the solution was in the very same 
mailing list thread that he had himself contributed to. 

We have mechanisms in place for releasing updates in both source and binary 
formats. The general procedure is outlined on CRAN. For source releases, there 
is a daily snapshots link on the front page of CRAN. 

For Mac and Windows binaries, you need to go via the relevant links and for 
Windows, select links under "Other builds". 

For Mac, the link is on the Mac page, where you need to find the line saying 
"Information, tools and most recent daily builds of the R GUI, R-patched and 
R-devel can be found at http://mac.R-project.org/;. 

What we do not do is to rush out full releases for any minor problem. We run 
carefully orchestrated patch releases approximately 4 times per year, with 
alpha/beta/RC cycles every time, so as to minimize the risk of destabilizing 
the code.

- Peter D.

> On 8 Feb 2021, at 14:02 , Thomas Hopper  wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> Your comment might be tongue-in-cheek, but taking it at face value, I’d like 
> to point out that if there’s a fix and users don’t know about it, that’s a 
> developer communication problem; not a user problem. Most developers deal 
> with this problem by releasing updated versions of their software, which has 
> not happened (current CRAN version is 1.73, which is what I’m using); I know 
> of no developers who have been able to solve this communication problem by 
> publishing notes about beta versions of their software to email lists that 
> have low signal to noise ratios.
> 
> Seems like there’s a better way to get updates out if the developers want to 
> avoid users repeatedly pointing out the same bugs.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Tom
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 5:05 AM, Peter Dalgaard  wrote:
>> 
>> If you are not aware of the fix, then you are not reading your email...
>> 
>> The NSButton message was reported to be gone in RGui v.7903, on r-help by 
>> mal...@malonequantitative.com on Jan. 18. 
>> 
>> Current patch versions (https://mac.r-project.org) are at v.7922. Next 
>> formal patch release (4.0.4) is on Feb 15, prerelease downloadable from said 
>> page.
>> 
>> - Peter Dalgaard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Feb 2021, at 05:47 , Gregory Coats via R-SIG-Mac 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tom Hopper,
>>> On Jan 8, 2021, I first reported that R on Mac gave the error message you 
>>> reported today.
>>> We R Mac users are all getting this error. It is now a month later. I am 
>>> not aware of any fix.
>>> Greg Coats
>>> 
>>> 2021-01-07 22:58:42.997 R[8311:37566]
>>> Warning: Expected min height of view: 
>>> () 
>>> to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.00. 
>>> This error will be logged once per view in violation.
>>> 
 On Feb 7, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Tom Hopper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm also seeing the following error:
>>> 2021-02-07 14:41:15.950 R[4408:267051] 
>>> Warning: Expected min height of view: 
>>> () 
>>> to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.00. 
>>> This error will be logged once per view in violation.
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list
>>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org
>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
>> 
>> -- 
>> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
>> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
>> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
>> Phone: (+45)38153501
>> Office: A 4.23
>> Email: pd@cbs.dk  Priv: pda...@gmail.com
>> 
> 
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Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
Phone: (+45)38153501
Office: A 4.23
Email: pd@cbs.dk  Priv: pda...@gmail.com

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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problem with dot chart examples in my Mac

2021-02-08 Thread Thomas Hopper
Peter,

Your comment might be tongue-in-cheek, but taking it at face value, I’d like to 
point out that if there’s a fix and users don’t know about it, that’s a 
developer communication problem; not a user problem. Most developers deal with 
this problem by releasing updated versions of their software, which has not 
happened (current CRAN version is 1.73, which is what I’m using); I know of no 
developers who have been able to solve this communication problem by publishing 
notes about beta versions of their software to email lists that have low signal 
to noise ratios.

Seems like there’s a better way to get updates out if the developers want to 
avoid users repeatedly pointing out the same bugs.

Thank you,

Tom

> On Feb 8, 2021, at 5:05 AM, Peter Dalgaard  wrote:
> 
> If you are not aware of the fix, then you are not reading your email...
> 
> The NSButton message was reported to be gone in RGui v.7903, on r-help by 
> mal...@malonequantitative.com on Jan. 18. 
> 
> Current patch versions (https://mac.r-project.org) are at v.7922. Next formal 
> patch release (4.0.4) is on Feb 15, prerelease downloadable from said page.
> 
> - Peter Dalgaard
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 Feb 2021, at 05:47 , Gregory Coats via R-SIG-Mac 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Tom Hopper,
>> On Jan 8, 2021, I first reported that R on Mac gave the error message you 
>> reported today.
>> We R Mac users are all getting this error. It is now a month later. I am not 
>> aware of any fix.
>> Greg Coats
>> 
>> 2021-01-07 22:58:42.997 R[8311:37566]
>> Warning: Expected min height of view: 
>> () 
>> to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.00. 
>> This error will be logged once per view in violation.
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Tom Hopper  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm also seeing the following error:
>> 2021-02-07 14:41:15.950 R[4408:267051] 
>> Warning: Expected min height of view: 
>> () 
>> to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.00. 
>> This error will be logged once per view in violation.
>> 
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>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list
>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org
>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
> 
> -- 
> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
> Phone: (+45)38153501
> Office: A 4.23
> Email: pd@cbs.dk  Priv: pda...@gmail.com
> 

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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Problem with dot chart examples in my Mac

2021-02-08 Thread Peter Dalgaard
If you are not aware of the fix, then you are not reading your email...

The NSButton message was reported to be gone in RGui v.7903, on r-help by 
mal...@malonequantitative.com on Jan. 18. 

Current patch versions (https://mac.r-project.org) are at v.7922. Next formal 
patch release (4.0.4) is on Feb 15, prerelease downloadable from said page.

- Peter Dalgaard



> On 8 Feb 2021, at 05:47 , Gregory Coats via R-SIG-Mac 
>  wrote:
> 
> Tom Hopper,
> On Jan 8, 2021, I first reported that R on Mac gave the error message you 
> reported today.
> We R Mac users are all getting this error. It is now a month later. I am not 
> aware of any fix.
> Greg Coats
> 
> 2021-01-07 22:58:42.997 R[8311:37566]
> Warning: Expected min height of view: 
> () 
> to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.00. 
> This error will be logged once per view in violation.
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Tom Hopper  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm also seeing the following error:
> 2021-02-07 14:41:15.950 R[4408:267051] 
> Warning: Expected min height of view: 
> () 
> to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.00. 
> This error will be logged once per view in violation.
> 
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-- 
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Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
Phone: (+45)38153501
Office: A 4.23
Email: pd@cbs.dk  Priv: pda...@gmail.com

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