Re: [R-SIG-Mac] [External] Behaviour or Quartz windows
R version 4.0.3 (2020-10-10) Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin17.0 (64-bit) Running under: macOS Big Sur 10.16 Matrix products: default BLAS: /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.0/Resources/lib/libRblas.dylib LAPACK: /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.0/Resources/lib/libRlapack.dylib locale: [1] en_AU.UTF-8/en_AU.UTF-8/en_AU.UTF-8/C/en_AU.UTF-8/en_AU.UTF-8 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base loaded via a namespace (and not attached): [1] compiler_4.0.3 tools_4.0.3 > On 10 Feb 2021, at 4:26 am, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > > The quartz() device has nothing to so with XQuartz. Quartz is part of macOS: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_(graphics_layer) > > Using XQuartz betas is not supported: it is very unfortunate that they are > persuading users to install a beta version. > > You have not followed the posting guide and posted the sessionInfo(). We are > left to guess that you are using an Intel build of R under emulation, but > homebrew does have (a rather broken) arm64 build of R 4.0.3: we do not > support arm64 builds on R < 4.1.0. My understanding is that in the CRAN > release of R 4.0.3 only the X11() device and parts of Tk interact with > XQuartz, although other parts may in other builds. > > On 09/02/2021 17:33, Richard M. Heiberger wrote: >> Is R on M1 really talking to the REAL XQuartz? After I opened XQuartz from >> the spotlignt, it acknowledged the xterm window, but not the R graphics >> window. When I closed the XQuartz >> app, the R graphics window was still open and functioning. dev.cur() says >> "quartz". >> just checked on my older intel mac. same behavior. the Xquartz.app menu >> doesn't list >> the R graphics window, and the R graphics shows "...", not "XQuartz" in the >> menu bar. >> >> From: R-SIG-Mac on behalf of Richard M. >> Heiberger >> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 11:56 AM >> To: Peter West; r-sig-mac@r-project.org >> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] [External] Behaviour or Quartz windows >> When I draw a 9x7 panel lattice it displays 12 panels, then sits there until >> I resize the window. then the rest appears. When I display another 9x7, it >> too sits at 12 panels. >> When I Cmd-left for the previous display, the current one vanishes entirely. >> When I send the command again, after it sits I resize the window. Now the >> full second display >> is visible. When I Cmd-left followed by Cmd-right, the second display is >> lost. >> I am using R version 4.0.3 (2020-10-10) on Silicon Mac Big Sur 11.1 from >> inside ESS. >> XQuartz doesn't report correctly. On the MenuBar it doesn't say "XQuartz". >> Instead it shows a >> small Apple Icon which has no information when clicked. When I search using >> the MenuBar Spotlight icon, it tells me Xquartz 2.8.0_beta1 and offers to >> update to beta3. Clicking on XQuartz.app in the Spotlight menu gives proper >> XQuartz information in the upper left corner >> of the MenuBar. >> Rich >> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >> >> From: R-SIG-Mac on behalf of Peter West >> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:35:59 AM >> To: r-sig-mac@r-project.org >> Subject: [External] [R-SIG-Mac] Behaviour or Quartz windows >> Hi, >> I�ll just confirm the odd behaviour of the Quartz window in Big Sur 11.2 R >> 4.0.3 GUI 1.73 on M1 silicon. I have installed the beta3 version of Quartz. >> In my case I have to CMD <- twice, then go forward to get the next to last >> plot. >> Are these Quartz windows constructed using native MacOS graphics or XQuartz? >> Peter >> � >> Peter West >> peter.b.w...@ehealth.id.au >> �that they might touch even the fringe of his garment. And as many as >> touched it were made well. >> ___ >> R-SIG-Mac mailing list >> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >> ___ >> R-SIG-Mac mailing list >> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac > > > -- > Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk > Emeritus Professor of Applied Statistics, University of Oxford ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] [External] Behaviour or Quartz windows
The quartz() device has nothing to so with XQuartz. Quartz is part of macOS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_(graphics_layer) Using XQuartz betas is not supported: it is very unfortunate that they are persuading users to install a beta version. You have not followed the posting guide and posted the sessionInfo(). We are left to guess that you are using an Intel build of R under emulation, but homebrew does have (a rather broken) arm64 build of R 4.0.3: we do not support arm64 builds on R < 4.1.0. My understanding is that in the CRAN release of R 4.0.3 only the X11() device and parts of Tk interact with XQuartz, although other parts may in other builds. On 09/02/2021 17:33, Richard M. Heiberger wrote: Is R on M1 really talking to the REAL XQuartz? After I opened XQuartz from the spotlignt, it acknowledged the xterm window, but not the R graphics window. When I closed the XQuartz app, the R graphics window was still open and functioning. dev.cur() says "quartz". just checked on my older intel mac. same behavior. the Xquartz.app menu doesn't list the R graphics window, and the R graphics shows "...", not "XQuartz" in the menu bar. From: R-SIG-Mac on behalf of Richard M. Heiberger Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 11:56 AM To: Peter West; r-sig-mac@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] [External] Behaviour or Quartz windows When I draw a 9x7 panel lattice it displays 12 panels, then sits there until I resize the window. then the rest appears. When I display another 9x7, it too sits at 12 panels. When I Cmd-left for the previous display, the current one vanishes entirely. When I send the command again, after it sits I resize the window. Now the full second display is visible. When I Cmd-left followed by Cmd-right, the second display is lost. I am using R version 4.0.3 (2020-10-10) on Silicon Mac Big Sur 11.1 from inside ESS. XQuartz doesn't report correctly. On the MenuBar it doesn't say "XQuartz". Instead it shows a small Apple Icon which has no information when clicked. When I search using the MenuBar Spotlight icon, it tells me Xquartz 2.8.0_beta1 and offers to update to beta3. Clicking on XQuartz.app in the Spotlight menu gives proper XQuartz information in the upper left corner of the MenuBar. Rich Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: R-SIG-Mac on behalf of Peter West Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:35:59 AM To: r-sig-mac@r-project.org Subject: [External] [R-SIG-Mac] Behaviour or Quartz windows Hi, I�ll just confirm the odd behaviour of the Quartz window in Big Sur 11.2 R 4.0.3 GUI 1.73 on M1 silicon. I have installed the beta3 version of Quartz. In my case I have to CMD <- twice, then go forward to get the next to last plot. Are these Quartz windows constructed using native MacOS graphics or XQuartz? Peter � Peter West peter.b.w...@ehealth.id.au �that they might touch even the fringe of his garment. And as many as touched it were made well. ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac -- Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk Emeritus Professor of Applied Statistics, University of Oxford ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] [External] Behaviour or Quartz windows
Is R on M1 really talking to the REAL XQuartz? After I opened XQuartz from the spotlignt, it acknowledged the xterm window, but not the R graphics window. When I closed the XQuartz app, the R graphics window was still open and functioning. dev.cur() says "quartz". just checked on my older intel mac. same behavior. the Xquartz.app menu doesn't list the R graphics window, and the R graphics shows "...", not "XQuartz" in the menu bar. From: R-SIG-Mac on behalf of Richard M. Heiberger Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 11:56 AM To: Peter West; r-sig-mac@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] [External] Behaviour or Quartz windows When I draw a 9x7 panel lattice it displays 12 panels, then sits there until I resize the window. then the rest appears. When I display another 9x7, it too sits at 12 panels. When I Cmd-left for the previous display, the current one vanishes entirely. When I send the command again, after it sits I resize the window. Now the full second display is visible. When I Cmd-left followed by Cmd-right, the second display is lost. I am using R version 4.0.3 (2020-10-10) on Silicon Mac Big Sur 11.1 from inside ESS. XQuartz doesn't report correctly. On the MenuBar it doesn't say "XQuartz". Instead it shows a small Apple Icon which has no information when clicked. When I search using the MenuBar Spotlight icon, it tells me Xquartz 2.8.0_beta1 and offers to update to beta3. Clicking on XQuartz.app in the Spotlight menu gives proper XQuartz information in the upper left corner of the MenuBar. Rich Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: R-SIG-Mac on behalf of Peter West Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:35:59 AM To: r-sig-mac@r-project.org Subject: [External] [R-SIG-Mac] Behaviour or Quartz windows Hi, I�ll just confirm the odd behaviour of the Quartz window in Big Sur 11.2 R 4.0.3 GUI 1.73 on M1 silicon. I have installed the beta3 version of Quartz. In my case I have to CMD <- twice, then go forward to get the next to last plot. Are these Quartz windows constructed using native MacOS graphics or XQuartz? Peter � Peter West peter.b.w...@ehealth.id.au �that they might touch even the fringe of his garment. And as many as touched it were made well. ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
Re: [R-SIG-Mac] [External] Behaviour or Quartz windows
When I draw a 9x7 panel lattice it displays 12 panels, then sits there until I resize the window. then the rest appears. When I display another 9x7, it too sits at 12 panels. When I Cmd-left for the previous display, the current one vanishes entirely. When I send the command again, after it sits I resize the window. Now the full second display is visible. When I Cmd-left followed by Cmd-right, the second display is lost. I am using R version 4.0.3 (2020-10-10) on Silicon Mac Big Sur 11.1 from inside ESS. XQuartz doesn't report correctly. On the MenuBar it doesn't say "XQuartz". Instead it shows a small Apple Icon which has no information when clicked. When I search using the MenuBar Spotlight icon, it tells me Xquartz 2.8.0_beta1 and offers to update to beta3. Clicking on XQuartz.app in the Spotlight menu gives proper XQuartz information in the upper left corner of the MenuBar. Rich Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: R-SIG-Mac on behalf of Peter West Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:35:59 AM To: r-sig-mac@r-project.org Subject: [External] [R-SIG-Mac] Behaviour or Quartz windows Hi, I�ll just confirm the odd behaviour of the Quartz window in Big Sur 11.2 R 4.0.3 GUI 1.73 on M1 silicon. I have installed the beta3 version of Quartz. In my case I have to CMD <- twice, then go forward to get the next to last plot. Are these Quartz windows constructed using native MacOS graphics or XQuartz? Peter � Peter West peter.b.w...@ehealth.id.au �that they might touch even the fringe of his garment. And as many as touched it were made well. ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ___ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
