Re: [Resin-interest] Caching issue? with resin pro 3.1.9

2010-04-16 Thread Marco Wingartz
Hi Aaron,

thanks for your ideas… unfortunately I can be sure that’s not an browser cache 
or proxy issue… and of course I simplified the problem a little bit… It’s not 
me calling the empty directory tree, but an newsletter project of our company 
uses shortened urls by just referencing the folder in their emails, not the 
index-document to make the link look better… so the caching of 404 will appear 
as soon as the first test newsletters are spread at development. Until I get my 
hands on the index-document I have already plenty of calls on the webserver.

The point is, that problem disappears as soon as resin is restarted. Until then 
the newsletter recipients will all see the 404 page instead of the landing page…
We are already fighting with this since a while and find no way to get around… 
and for performance reasons we don’t like the idea to abandon resin as 
webserver and go back to apache or any other webserver instead.

So if anyone has an idea to enlighten us what influences resins “long-term 
memory” of static html-content and where to fiddle with parameters to shorten 
the time to live for such content delivered by resin, please feel free to point 
us into right direction.

Your idea of a customized 404 page sounds good, but it will not address  the 
updated hmtl-documents which won’t show their changes either until resin is 
restarted… we definitely have a problem with static html-content being kind of 
resistable to changes until resin is restarted.

So we still welcome ideas… or maybe someone can find same behavior?

Best regards,

m.w.
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Re: [Resin-interest] Caching issue? with resin pro 3.1.9

2010-04-16 Thread Marco Wingartz
Hi Aaron,

I appreciate your help… meanwhile I got a hint from Emil to flush ProxyCache 
with MBean… we will see if your work-around is still needed. Thanks for your 
active support and have a nice weekend.

Best regards,
m.w.
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[Resin-interest] Caching issue? with resin pro 3.1.9

2010-04-14 Thread Marco Wingartz
Hello folks,

I need some helping hands with a puzzler, we ran into recently… We are using 
the licensed resin pro 3.1.9 to handle all our servlets and .jsps and 
additionally we kicked apache and also use resin to spread the static .html 
contents to the world. While we are aware how to influence max-age in our 
servlets and .jsps, we still have a strange issue with folders, where content 
was added after someone already called the empty folder generating a 404 
response.

Even if we put the index.html into the folder resin will not recognize this and 
still give the 404 error. Last time this happens it lasted more than 16 hours, 
until we restarted resin to get rid of this effect. Now my question is, where 
can I influence cache times of such responses, when I call a folder?

Just to give better example… I put a new folder in my doc tree. Then a call of 
http://my-server.com/newfolder/ will give me 404 page as I have not filled 
folder yet. When I now put my static index.html into newfolder I can directly 
call the index.html and page will show. But the call of 
http://my-server.com/newfolder/ still gives me the 404 error page for hours and 
days. How can I avoid this without need to restart resin?

Any clues, ideas, hints?

Best regards,
m.w.
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Re: [Resin-interest] Caching issue? with resin pro 3.1.9

2010-04-14 Thread Aaron Freeman

Marco,

If you are repeating that pattern every time, it sounds more like your 
_brower's_ cache being the culprit.  Instead of calling: 
http://my-server.com/newfolder/  with an empty folder, place the 
index.html in there and _then_ call it so your browser doesn't cache up 
the 404 not found result.  You can alternatively hold down the *shift 
key* while refreshing to see if it's your browser.  We would actually 
test this making the first call in IE and then the second test in 
FireFox to rule that  browser cache issue out, but that sounds like what 
you are up against.


If you find this is the problem, then I am not sure what Resin's default 
cache settings are for the 404 not found (I bet they don't even address 
it), but you can replace their 404 not found with your own 
user-friendlier one and set your own cache settings.  Do this in your 
resin.xml:


error-page error-code='404' location='/notfound.jsp' /

And set whatever meta tags, and browser cache settings you want in your 
/notfound.jsp.


Aaron


On 4/14/2010 4:03 AM, Marco Wingartz wrote:


Hello folks,

I need some helping hands with a puzzler, we ran into recently... We 
are using the licensed resin pro 3.1.9 to handle all our servlets and 
.jsps and additionally we kicked apache and also use resin to spread 
the static .html contents to the world. While we are aware how to 
influence max-age in our servlets and .jsps, we still have a strange 
issue with folders, where content was added after someone already 
called the empty folder generating a 404 response.


Even if we put the index.html into the folder resin will not recognize 
this and still give the 404 error. Last time this happens it lasted 
more than 16 hours, until we restarted resin to get rid of this 
effect. Now my question is, where can I influence cache times of such 
responses, when I call a folder?


Just to give better example... I put a new folder in my doc tree. Then 
a call of http://my-server.com/newfolder/ will give me 404 page as I 
have not filled folder yet. When I now put my static index.html into 
newfolder I can directly call the index.html and page will show. But 
the call of http://my-server.com/newfolder/ still gives me the 404 
error page for hours and days. How can I avoid this without need to 
restart resin?


Any clues, ideas, hints?

Best regards,

m.w.




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